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On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, amy wolf wrote: yeah, you have a GREAT point there. what was i thinking?! sorry, even though i am a white male, ethnic/gender/racial slurs still get on my nerves. because they have become stereotypes doesnt mean they are cool to use...at least in my new-to-the-list opinion. regardless of if they're cool to be used or not, they are used, so i don't see the point in commenting about it. it's not worth it. people have too many viewpoints and it starts..uhmmm..it starts this ;) and i'm sure we've all learned the evils of 'this' (see previous conversation on the word gay a few months back) - amy ok, this is my last post to the list on this subject...so as to avoid any more hurt feelings and annoyed listers. but i honestly cant believe "logic" like this! have we become so apathetic to racial slurs that we have resigned ourselves to just look the other way? fuck no! not if i have anything to say about it at least. dehumanizing racial and ethnic slurs are always worth commenting on, ESPECIALLY if its coming from within "the scene." fighting back the bullshit that plagues american thought is what indie/punk/underground music is based in. we are the other and dont have to stand for comments like "lazy nigger" or "fucking faggot" or "dirty jew." by not saying anything we are reaffirming the popular opinion that this is in some way okay. at amy's suggestion, maybe it HAS become okay here to use passive-aggressive racism because "hey, we all have different beliefs." if thats the case, im burning my scene card right now. im sorry to amy for being idealistic and hoping that people were at least smart enough to know that a term like "jewed down" is still racist and still unacceptable. if we're not going to draw the line there, where the fuck are we gonna draw it? cuz i mean, hey, we all have different viewpoints and talking about it just isnt worth it! bull--shit! feel free to email me directly with all comments and concerns, id love to discuss this with anyone, privately.
[MMouse]: semen stainz the moutain tops
1.Who are you/where do you reside/how old are you? Shane "Donkey Rock" Overbay.24 2.What is your favorite mouse song? i like pack of wild family dogssad sad song 3.What are five records you couldn't live without Sonic Youth - Washing Machine Built TO Spill - Keep It LIke A Secret Nuetral Milk HOtel - The Aeroplane one Ganger - Hammock Style Cat Power - WHat would the Community THink 4. Putting records on the internet for free download: bad or good? Great ANything free is great! I dont give a fuck what people say about bands losing money!!! THEY WONT!! THis has been going on for years with VHS, people will always copy, but there will be plenty of people who will always want the "original" copy too! 5. Ebay, bad or good? Ok...if you dont get Jewed! 6. Russ winning the hottest male contest, is he voting for himself or what? WHat happened? 7. Do you own the Japaneese Tour EP? nope 8. First live show? BEach Boys in 88 9. Worst live show? I'd actually have to say Sonic Youth at Brown University...Sonic YOuth wasnt into it, and Brown University student body was tooo ritzy for me! 13. What book should every person in america read? 100 Years of SOlitude by Garcia Marquez 17. Favorite beer? Natural Light 18. Favorite color? crimson red 19. What are you going to name your first born child? burrito or donkey 20. Five favorite movies (the question that tells tons about a person)? Tenchi The Movie - Daughter Of Darkness American Beauty HI Fidelity GUmmo Doom Generation
Re: [MMouse]: semen stainz the moutain tops
5. Ebay, bad or good? Ok...if you dont get Jewed! thats really not very funny...even if you were "joking" oh please, i'm a jew and i hear that term all the time. i probably use it myself. lighten up a little mang, stereotypes are stereotypes. everyone uses them, but it seems 'bad' cos me and mah jew homies are a minority ;) - amy
Re: [MMouse]: semen stainz the moutain tops
yeah, you have a GREAT point there. what was i thinking?! sorry, even though i am a white male, ethnic/gender/racial slurs still get on my nerves. because they have become stereotypes doesnt mean they are cool to use...at least in my new-to-the-list opinion. regardless of if they're cool to be used or not, they are used, so i don't see the point in commenting about it. it's not worth it. people have too many viewpoints and it starts..uhmmm..it starts this ;) and i'm sure we've all learned the evils of 'this' (see previous conversation on the word gay a few months back) - amy