Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Ged Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi there,
 
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Chris Thompson wrote:
 
  mod_perl is a lousy name.
 [snip]
  mod_perl needs a name. Something marketable, something catchy.
 
 How about BigFoot?

Sasquatch.


-- 
Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire http://www.davehodgkinson.com
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
   Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire



Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Ged Haywood

Hi all,

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How about BigFoot?
  
 
 Probably not the best for a server application. Might make one think of the 
 footprint involved ...

That was one of my points.  :) There will be fame although possibly
not fortune for the first person to publish the other.

73,
Ged.




Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Ged Haywood

Hi Ron,

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Ron Savage wrote:

 In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
 
   How about BigFoot? 
 
 All these American-style names are verging on the racist.
 This is world-wide code, not s/$Expletive// American-wide code.

But I'm an Englishman and I live in France!  O'course we could talk
about the French...

:)

73,
Ged.





RE: New mod_perl name was [Re: New mod_perl Logo]

2002-01-30 Thread Joe Breeden

I like Monkey Butter v1.0.. On a serious note, I work in a
predominately MS shop - of 25 developers me and one other are the only
Perl developers with 3 more doing some combination of Java,C++, and C. 

I would suggest that anyone looking to make a case for 'Perl in the
Enterprise' should look at the P5EE project ( http://p5ee.perl.org).
From that site - The mission of the P5EE initiative is to promote the
development, deployment, and acceptance of Enterprise Systems written in
Perl.

It has been my experience that results count, unless you are dealing
with pointy-headed bosses. If that is the case, you application should
spit gold bricks out of the floppy drive and it wouldn't matter. 

If you're looking for a name to justify Perl in Enterprise then I think
the P5EE project and name is as good as any.

Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: ___cliff rayman___ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: New mod_perl name was [Re: New mod_perl Logo]
 
 
 how about Everest?  Niagara? Multiphase? Slipstream?
 DigiServer? Pointillion? Web Mammoth? SharpWeb?
 Web Enterprise?  EnterWeb?
 
 Ged Haywood wrote:
 
  Hi there,
 
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Chris Thompson wrote:
 
   mod_perl is a lousy name.
  [snip]
   mod_perl needs a name. Something marketable, something catchy.
 
  How about BigFoot?
 
  73,
  Ged.
 
 --
 ___cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.genwax.com/
 
 
 



[OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Stephen Reppucci


All right -- I know I should just silently delete this, and let it
go, but it's like a bad traffic accident, I just have to sneak a
look.

In exactly what way do you connote American-style out of any of
those names?  The fact that Big Foot is a mythical being often
associated with the US northwest? (I think the Canadians talk about
Big Foot too...)

And racist?? Come on, that's certainly a reach...

When in doubt, accuse others of being provincial, and act damn
indignant.  Curse their nationality too...

Steve Reppucci

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Ron Savage wrote:

 Jeezus you guys.

 All these American-style names are verging on the racist.

 This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code.

 Cheers
 Ron Savage
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://savage.net.au/index.html
   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:48 PM
   Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo


   In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



 How about BigFoot?



   Probably not the best for a server application. Might make one
 think of the footprint involved ... and isn't one of the major
 reasons to moving to mod_perl to reduce the overhead and
 footprint of the server?

   Now Yetti no conotation there. Or Swamp Beast, Sasquatch, or
 possibly even the local favorite Nessie (I'd love to see Ora get
 a picture of her on the next book!)

   -Chris


-- 
Steve Reppucci   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Logical Choice Software  http://logsoft.com/ |
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  My God!  What have I done?  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=




RE: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Joe Breeden

The last time I looked the Yeti is Himalayan and Nessie is from
Scotland.

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Reppucci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:16 AM
 To: Ron Savage
 Cc: mod_perl
 Subject: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo
 
 
 
 All right -- I know I should just silently delete this, and let it
 go, but it's like a bad traffic accident, I just have to sneak a
 look.
 
 In exactly what way do you connote American-style out of any of
 those names?  The fact that Big Foot is a mythical being often
 associated with the US northwest? (I think the Canadians talk about
 Big Foot too...)
 
 And racist?? Come on, that's certainly a reach...
 
 When in doubt, accuse others of being provincial, and act damn
 indignant.  Curse their nationality too...
 
 Steve Reppucci
 
 On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Ron Savage wrote:
 
  Jeezus you guys.
 
  All these American-style names are verging on the racist.
 
  This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code.
 
  Cheers
  Ron Savage
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://savage.net.au/index.html
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo
 
 
In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard 
 Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 
  How about BigFoot?
 
 
 
Probably not the best for a server application. Might make one
  think of the footprint involved ... and isn't one of the major
  reasons to moving to mod_perl to reduce the overhead and
  footprint of the server?
 
Now Yetti no conotation there. Or Swamp Beast, Sasquatch, or
  possibly even the local favorite Nessie (I'd love to see Ora get
  a picture of her on the next book!)
 
-Chris
 
 
 -- 
 Steve Reppucci   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
 Logical Choice Software  http://logsoft.com/ |
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  My God!  What have I done?  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 
 



Fw: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Rod Butcher

 I'm going to have a spew here. I am sick of all the Anti-US bashing. You
 sent hundreds of thousands of your boys to help save Europe, Australia,
 Russia, Asia from slavery. We will never forget that. When any country is
in
 trouble it dials 1.  If in return we get to drink Starbucks and eat Burger
 King vegi-burgers or McDonalds Salads so be it, it's a fair trade.
 End of rant. Back to geek stuff.  Rod
 ===
 The sender has never accepted any funding
 from Enron. Any suggestion to that effect
 will be met with legal action.
 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen Reppucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ron Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: mod_perl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:15 AM
 Subject: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo


 
  All right -- I know I should just silently delete this, and let it
  go, but it's like a bad traffic accident, I just have to sneak a
  look.
 
  In exactly what way do you connote American-style out of any of
  those names?  The fact that Big Foot is a mythical being often
  associated with the US northwest? (I think the Canadians talk about
  Big Foot too...)
 
  And racist?? Come on, that's certainly a reach...
 
  When in doubt, accuse others of being provincial, and act damn
  indignant.  Curse their nationality too...
 
  Steve Reppucci
 
  On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Ron Savage wrote:
 
   Jeezus you guys.
  
   All these American-style names are verging on the racist.
  
   This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code.
  
   Cheers
   Ron Savage
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://savage.net.au/index.html
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:48 PM
 Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo
  
  
 In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
  
   How about BigFoot?
  
  
  
 Probably not the best for a server application. Might make one
   think of the footprint involved ... and isn't one of the major
   reasons to moving to mod_perl to reduce the overhead and
   footprint of the server?
  
 Now Yetti no conotation there. Or Swamp Beast, Sasquatch, or
   possibly even the local favorite Nessie (I'd love to see Ora get
   a picture of her on the next book!)
  
 -Chris
  
 
  --
  Steve Reppucci   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
  Logical Choice Software  http://logsoft.com/ |
  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  My God!  What have I done?  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 






Re: Apache::AuthCookie not set cookie really

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Schout

 variable path=/agenda was omitted. Explorer 6.0 doesn't set cookie
 without path attribute.
 I think, it's a good idea to make WhatEverPath required option in
 config.

Hrm.  I was not aware of that.  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I have changed AuthCookie in CVS so that Path will be set to / unless the
path has been configured.  This will allow people who have configurations that
dont specify the path to still use the new version without updating the config.

Feel free to grab the source from CVS and try it out at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ap-authcookie

Mike





Problems changing the realm with auth_name

2002-01-30 Thread John Kelly

Hi,

I'm running Apache/1.3.20 (Win32) mod_perl/1.25_01-dev
and am having problem using auth_name to dynamically set the realm. The 
call seems to be ignored, using the AuthName directive from http.conf.

Excuse me if I've done something obviously wrong, but I've only been 
writing mod_perl for 4 days.

Looking around I saw a note from someone which implied they also had a 
problem with this on NT (I'm running XP Professional) but that was some 
time ago.

After looking through http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-1.26/Changes
it seems that the problem I am having may well be fixed in 1.26

Being a simple windows programmer, I'd appreciate it if someone could 
point me to a win32 binary distribution of mod_perl for 1.26


My httpd.conf look like this

Location /private 

   SetHandler perl-script
   PerlSendHeader on
 
   AuthName temp
   AuthType Basic
   require valid-user

   PerlAccessHandler Apache::AccessPrivate 

/Location

and the access handler part of my AccessPrivate.pm file is here...

sub handler {
 
   my $r = shift;
 
   my $uri = $r-parsed_uri;

   my @pi = split /\//,$uri-path_info();
   shift @pi;
   my $realm = shift @pi;
 
   $r-auth_name($realm);
   $r-set_handlers(PerlAuthenHandler = [\authenticate]); 
   $r-set_handlers(PerlHandler = [\content]);
 
   return OK;
}

regards
john



[OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Alex Porras

 On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Ron Savage wrote:

 All these American-style names are verging on the racist.

People should instead take into consideration the alternative
suggestions you provided...oh wait, nevermind.

--Alex



[OT] Re: New mod_perl name was [Re: New mod_perl Logo]

2002-01-30 Thread Joe Schaefer

___cliff rayman___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 how about Everest?  Niagara? Multiphase? Slipstream?
 DigiServer? Pointillion? Web Mammoth? SharpWeb?
 Web Enterprise?  EnterWeb?

  % perl -wlne 'print if delmopr eq join , sort /./g' dictionary
  premold
  %

Actually I just wish we could standardize on one of either
mod_perl or modperl, so I can stop bouncing emails off 
to the wrong list :)


-- 
Joe Schaefer




[RFC] Apache::HEADRegistry

2002-01-30 Thread Geoffrey Young

well, thanks to Jean-Michel Hiver, we seem to have a winner with the
Apache::Registry HEAD request issue.

http://www.modperlcookbook.org/~geoff/modules/Apache-HEADRegistry-0.01.tar.gz

below is the README.  bascially, Apache::HEADRegistry is just a
subclass of Apache::Registry that is HEAD request aware - it lets you
go about your business as usual, but stops writes to the client short
of the actual content if the request is a HEAD request.  You ought to
be able to use it as a drop-in replacement for Apache::Registry, with
the usual caveats that come with Apache::RegistryNG over
Apache::Registry.

It seems fairly reasonable, but some additional smoke testing is
always much appreciated.  The only problem encountered so far seems to
be redirect scripts, such as 

use CGI;
$cgi = new CGI;
print $cgi-redirect (http://www.foo.com/;);

what happens here is that Apache itself processes the redirect as a
custom response and, due to some mod_perl shenanigans, doesn't respect
the r-header_only request.

so, what we seem to have here is a decent attempt at handling HEAD
requests, without altering mod_perl core, that works for all but
redirects (where the actual content is minimal).  as I said, additonal
tests are welcome - it's just a beginning effort.

I am also open to other naming schemes, since I hate naming things.

If folks like the idea, I may include an Apache::Test harness for the
module, if I find some spare tuits.

--Geoff

NAME 

Apache::HEADRegistry - Apache::Registry drop-in for HEAD requests

SYNOPSIS

httpd.conf:

 PerlModule Apache::HEADRegsitry

 Location /perl-bin
SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler Apache::HEADRegistry

Options +ExecCGI
PerlSendHeader On
 /Location  

DESCRIPTION

Apache::HEADRegistry is a drop-in for Apache::Registry that
properly handles HEAD requests.  Currently, Apache::Registry
has no handling of HEAD requests, so mod_cgi and Apache::Registry
scripts do not behave exactly the same.  This module attempts
to bridge that gap by intercepting headers much in the way
that mod_perl does, but then obeying the value of $r-header_only.

NOTES

Apache::HEADRegistry is a subclass of Apache::RegistryNG, which
means that it doesn't behave _exactly_ the same as Apache::Registry.
Namely, it uses the filename of the script to determine the 
unique package namespace, whereas Apache::Registry uses the URI.
HEADRegistry also does not do any of the auto-dereferencing in its
print() method - if you want that type of thing, then you are
obviously relying on the mod_perl API yourself and can therefore
check $r-header_only yourself.  This module is meant for those
who want mod_cgi emulation only.

FEATURES/BUGS

No known bugs or features at this time, but consider this module
alphaware.

SEE ALSO

perl(1), mod_perl(3), Apache(3), Apache::Registry(3), 
Apache::RegistryNG

AUTHOR

Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]

COPYRIGHT

Copyright (c) 2002, Geoffrey Young.
All rights reserved.

This module is free software.  It may be used, redistributed
and/or modified under the same terms as Perl itself.

HISTORY

This code is derived in part from examples in the 
The mod_perl Developer's Cookbook

For more information, visit http://www.modperlcookbook.org/

It also contains code lifted from various mod_perl internal
sources, such as Apache.pm and mod_perl.c, and LWP.  Thanks
all for being good open source contributors.



[DIGEST] mod_perl digest 2002/01/20

2002-01-30 Thread jgsmith

--

  mod_perl digest
 
 January 20, 2002 - January 26, 2002

--

Recent happenings in the mod_perl world...


Features

  o mod_perl status
  o module announcements
  o available mod_perlers
  o mailing list highlights
  o links


mod_perl status

  o mod_perl
- stable: 1.26 (released July 11, 2001) [1]
- development: 1.26_01-dev [2]
  o Apache
- stable: 1.3.23 (released January 24, 2002) [3]
- development: 1.3.23-dev [4]
  o Apache 2.0
- beta: 2.0.28 (released November 13, 2001) [5]
  o Perl
- stable: 5.6.1 (released April 9, 2001) [6]
- development: 5.7.2 [7]


module announcements

  o Apache::Clean 0.03 - mod_perl interface into HTML::Clean [8]

  o Apache::GD::Thumbnail 0.01 - generates on-the-fly thumbnails
using GD and libjpeg [9]


available mod_perlers

  o Web application programmer looking in Bay area [10]


mailing list highlights

  o Cross-site Scripting prevention with Apache::TaintRequest [11]

  o Slow regexes and some of the reasons why  [12]

  o A project to discover best practices for time/memory optimization
[13]

  o UI regression testing [14]


links

  o The Apache/Perl Integration Project [15]
  o mod_perl documentation [16]
  o mod_perl modules on CPAN [17]
  o mod_perl homepage [18]
  o mod_perl news and advocacy [19]
  o mod_perl list archives
  - modperl@ [20] [21] 
  - dev@ [22] [23]
  - advocacy@ [24]


happy mod_perling...

--James
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
[1] http://perl.apache.org/dist/
[2] http://perl.apache.org/from-cvs/modperl/
[3] http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/
[4] http://dev.apache.org/from-cvs/apache-1.3/
[5] http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/
[6] http://www.cpan.org/src/stable.tar.gz
[7] http://www.cpan.org/src/devel.tar.gz 

[8] http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/quandkulfrimp
[9] http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/naljarsmum

[10] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/swalswixdwoi/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[11] http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/glindonthax
[12] http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/renddwicrimp
[13] http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/dwermbrandfrerd
[14] http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/rahkanglax

[15] http://perl.apache.org
[16] http://perl.apache.org/#docs
[17] http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Apache/
[18] http://www.modperl.com
[19] http://www.take23.org
[20] http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/
[21] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperlr=1w=2
[22] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl-devr=1w=2
[23] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40perl.apache.org/
[24] http://www.mail-archive.com/advocacy@perl.apache.org/



[JOB SEEKER]: Give me a job, please ;)

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Rolsky

Hi, all,

I just wanted to make a point of saying that I am available for work of a
(mod)Perl-ish nature.  I have a lot of expertise in mod_perl, Mason,
databases, and Perl in general.  I can add two and two.  I can bake a
cake.  I can leap over _extremely_ tiny buildings in a single bound.
Larger buildings may take more bounds.

My resume is at http://www.urth.org/resume/.

I'm interested in contract or full-time employment but I am not willing to
relocate.  I live in Minneapolis, where I'm currently enjoying the snow
and below-freezing temperatures.


Thanks,

-dave

/*==
www.urth.org
we await the New Sun
==*/




Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Marceusz
In a message dated 30-Jan-02 6:08:29 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


All these American-style names are verging on the racist.
 
This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code.
 


Don't let the crappy AOL account fool you. Nessie is about 3 hours from here. The Yetti I believe is indiginous to Asia isn't it? 

And as for australian beasties ... I just couldn't think of any off the top of my head ... .

-Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Robert Landrum

At 4:54 PM -0500 1/30/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 30-Jan-02 6:08:29 AM GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

All these American-style names are verging on the racist.

This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code.



Don't let the crappy AOL account fool you. Nessie is about 3 hours 
from here. The Yetti I believe is indiginous to Asia isn't it?

And as for australian beasties ... I just couldn't think of any off 
the top of my head ... .

Uhh... Taz?  Or Tazmanian Devil.

Roos?  KangarooSphere v5.6.0...

How about we just call it AmericanHatingAussie... ;-)

Rob

-Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
When I used a Mac, they laughed because I had no command prompt. When 
I used Linux, they laughed because I had no GUI.  



[OT] RE: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Rob Bloodgood

Uhh... the platypus, the wombat, the tazmanian devil, and the emu.
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 1:54 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo


  In a message dated 30-Jan-02 6:08:29 AM GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



All these American-style names are verging on the racist.

This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code.




  Don't let the crappy AOL account fool you. Nessie is about 3 hours from
here. The Yetti I believe is indiginous to Asia isn't it?

  And as for australian beasties ... I just couldn't think of any off the
top of my head ... .

  -Chris
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [OT] RE: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread iain truskett

* Rob Bloodgood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [31 Jan 2002 09:32]:
 Uhh... the platypus, the wombat, the tazmanian devil, and the emu.

That's 'Tasmanian'. And they're wonderfully cute and vicious brutes.


cheers,
-- 
iain.  http://eh.org/~koschei/



RE: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Jay Lawrence

I looked at some of the candidates at
http://wypug.digital-word.com/mod_perl/
must confess I am partial to
http://wypug.digital-word.com/mod_perl/logos/louise_bramald_1.jpg so far

Thinking camels for Perl and feathers for Apache putting them together all I
could see is flying camels - is that too close to flaming logos?

That's my 0.02CAD which is substantially less than 0.02USD... ;-)

J




mod_perl Developer's Cookbook

2002-01-30 Thread Matt Sergeant

My copy just arrived! I'll try and get through most of it as fast as I can
and post a review.

Congrats Geoff, Paul and Randy. Looks great at first glance.

-- 
!-- Matt --
:-Get a smart net/:-