Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread John Saylor
Hi

( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
 I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
 for donations of books on learning perl.

I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
[lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].

And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at perl.apache.org or
perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your students [or
school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.

Good luck!

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RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Joe Breeden
Me too. (and sorry to for a couple of private replies its early and I haven't had much 
caffeine this morning).

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Parr [mailto:ryanparr;precisiontechonline.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:57 AM
 To: Nick Tonkin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
 
 
 What open-source geek doesn't understand the importance, and 
 calling, of
 supporting your community?
 
 Count me in. I think it's great that you are donating your time and
 patience. Teaching isn't easy, but you've got a great cause. 
 Send me your
 shipping address and I'll send you a Llama book.
 
  http://www.rain.org/~artworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/sonar.html is
 striking. I hope this girl goes on to great things.
 
 --
 Ryan
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Nick Tonkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:57 PM
 Subject: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
 
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am going to be working with a small group of 
 disadvantaged youngsters
  here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
  apache.
 
  These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and 
 digital art
  for years and have self-selected into webmastering, 
 html-ing and such.
 
  I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal 
 to the list
  for donations of books on learning perl.
 
  Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen 
 copies of the
  Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
  gratefully accepted.
 
  An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make 
 (and also
  why we need a new one!) can be viewed at 
 http://www.rain.org/~artworks/
 
  A cool project by one of the students is at
  
 http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norm
a_intro.html

 Thanks folks,

 - nick

 
 Nick Tonkin   {|8^)







RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Stone, Derrick J
Amen.
http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Training/PerlIntro/
http://www.ebb.org/PickingUpPerl/
http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/things/instruction/perl/perlcourse.html
http://www.lanka.pair.com/techweb/perl/tutor/
oh wait... did you say spanish?
http://epq.com.co/~cjara/perl/tutorial.html
no? German?
http://www.tekromancer.com/perl/inhalt.html
Japanese?
http://plaza27.mbn.or.jp/~satomii/jdoc/

Perldoc is a challenge if you're new, because the syntax can be hard to pick up. But 
for a good tutorial, a nice printer would go a long way...

Derrick Stone
Internet Specialist
Web Development Center
UVa Health System
ICQ# 1464194


-Original Message-
From: John Saylor [mailto:johns;worldwinner.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:05 AM
To: Nick Tonkin
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids


Hi

( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
 I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
 for donations of books on learning perl.

I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
[lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].

And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at perl.apache.org or
perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your students [or
school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.

Good luck!

-- 
.--- ...




RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Joe Breeden
I would guess that these kids do not have access to computers outside school. Which 
makes access to  printed material advantageous. I guess a printer would be nice, but 
by the time the cost of it, paper, ink, and other supplies are factored in, I would 
guess that books would be cheaper.

 -Original Message-
 From: Stone, Derrick J [mailto:DJS6D;hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu]
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:01 AM
 To: John Saylor; Nick Tonkin
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
 
 
 Amen.
 http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html
 http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Training/PerlIntro/
 http://www.ebb.org/PickingUpPerl/
 http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/things/instruction/perl/perlcourse.html
 http://www.lanka.pair.com/techweb/perl/tutor/
 oh wait... did you say spanish?
 http://epq.com.co/~cjara/perl/tutorial.html
 no? German?
 http://www.tekromancer.com/perl/inhalt.html
 Japanese?
 http://plaza27.mbn.or.jp/~satomii/jdoc/
 
 Perldoc is a challenge if you're new, because the syntax can 
 be hard to pick up. But for a good tutorial, a nice printer 
 would go a long way...
 
 Derrick Stone
 Internet Specialist
 Web Development Center
 UVa Health System
 ICQ# 1464194
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Saylor [mailto:johns;worldwinner.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:05 AM
 To: Nick Tonkin
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
 
 
 Hi
 
 ( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
  I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal 
 to the list
  for donations of books on learning perl.
 
 I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
 [lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].
 
 And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at 
 perl.apache.org or
 perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your 
 students [or
 school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.
 
 Good luck!
 
 -- 
 .--- ...
 
 



[OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-10-31 Thread Nick Tonkin

Hi all,

I am going to be working with a small group of disadvantaged youngsters
here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
apache. 

These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and digital art
for years and have self-selected into webmastering, html-ing and such.

I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
for donations of books on learning perl.

Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen copies of the
Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
gratefully accepted.

An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make (and also
why we need a new one!) can be viewed at http://www.rain.org/~artworks/

A cool project by one of the students is at
http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norma_intro.html

Thanks folks,

- nick

   
Nick Tonkin   {|8^)





Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-10-31 Thread Ryan Parr
What open-source geek doesn't understand the importance, and calling, of
supporting your community?

Count me in. I think it's great that you are donating your time and
patience. Teaching isn't easy, but you've got a great cause. Send me your
shipping address and I'll send you a Llama book.

 http://www.rain.org/~artworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/sonar.html is
striking. I hope this girl goes on to great things.

--
Ryan

- Original Message -
From: Nick Tonkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:57 PM
Subject: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids



 Hi all,

 I am going to be working with a small group of disadvantaged youngsters
 here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
 apache.

 These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and digital art
 for years and have self-selected into webmastering, html-ing and such.

 I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
 for donations of books on learning perl.

 Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen copies of the
 Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
 gratefully accepted.

 An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make (and also
 why we need a new one!) can be viewed at http://www.rain.org/~artworks/

 A cool project by one of the students is at
 http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norma_intro.html

 Thanks folks,

 - nick

 
 Nick Tonkin   {|8^)