Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-12 Thread Vivek Khera

 ABH == Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ABH The myth lives on. :-)  It's not quite true.  It was at UCLA and
ABH the story was different:

ABH http://nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy;max=961
ABH http://nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/956

Quite lame to make a programming contest in which choice of language
makes all problems easier.  When we were running the Duke Internet
Programming Contest (mid 90's) we allowed any and all languages for
which we had a compiler.  The last year we ran it, that even included
Ada as provided by Sun, Haskell, and of course, perl, C, C++, Pascal,
FORTRAN, shell script, and probably a few more.

The folks that won usually picked the right language for the right
problem.  All of our working solutions given at the end of the contest
were written in C.

Naturally, the entire judging mechanism was written in perl (version 3
even!), except the submission programs, which were in /bin/sh for
portability.

Ahhh, the good ol' days. ;-)

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Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-08 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Medi Montaseri wrote:

 This reaminds me of a Brain Bowl competition at USC a few years
 ago, where the winner (a one man Perl speaking team) solved 4 out
 of 6 problems in the given time (compared to other multiple member
 teams) and the school of engineering decided to remove Perl as one
 of the possible languages

The myth lives on. :-)  It's not quite true.  It was at UCLA and
the story was different:

http://nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy;max=961
http://nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/956

 - ask

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[WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-07 Thread Bill Moseley

Sorry for the Way Off Topic, and sorry if I missed this on the list already:

http://www.google.com/programming-contest/

They say C++ or Java.  What, no Perl?


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Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz

 Bill == Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Bill Sorry for the Way Off Topic, and sorry if I missed this on the list already:
Bill http://www.google.com/programming-contest/

Bill They say C++ or Java.  What, no Perl?

No, they say must use our C++ interface routines, and no closed-source
solutions.  If you provide an open source package, you must
tell where and how to download and build.

Thus, Perl is fine.

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Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-07 Thread iain truskett

* Randal L. Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [08 Feb 2002 05:28]:
 * Dave == Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  In the Slashdot discussion, there's a link to a usenet posting by a
  Google employee which explicitly says only C++ or Java, no Perl or
  Lisp.

 A google employee is perhaps only an opinion though. Is it the group
 running the contest?

Yes, it's an official opinion.


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Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-07 Thread Medi Montaseri

This reaminds me of a Brain Bowl competition at USC a few years ago, where
the winner (a one man Perl speaking team) solved 4 out of 6 problems in the
given time
(compared to other multiple member teams) and the school of engineering decided
to
remove Perl as one of the possible languages

The story ends with the winner is currently working and uses his prize, a
copy
of MS Visual C++, as a door stopper

Having said that  I don't think Google has anything against Perl.
They use lots of it.

Bill Moseley wrote:

 Sorry for the Way Off Topic, and sorry if I missed this on the list already:

 http://www.google.com/programming-contest/

 They say C++ or Java.  What, no Perl?

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Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-07 Thread Dave Rolsky

On 7 Feb 2002, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

 No, they say must use our C++ interface routines, and no closed-source
 solutions.  If you provide an open source package, you must
 tell where and how to download and build.

 Thus, Perl is fine.

In the Slashdot discussion, there's a link to a usenet posting by a Google
employee which explicitly says only C++ or Java, no Perl or Lisp.

-dave

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Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz

 Dave == Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Dave In the Slashdot discussion, there's a link to a usenet posting by a Google
Dave employee which explicitly says only C++ or Java, no Perl or Lisp.

A google employee is perhaps only an opinion though.  Is it the
group running the contest?

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Re: [WOT] Google Programming Contest.

2002-02-07 Thread kkeller-modperl

Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Sorry for the Way Off Topic, and sorry if I missed this on the
 list already: http://www.google.com/programming-contest/

It seems like a lame way to hire a contractor.  :)  And an even
lamer way to get hired as a contractor.

(ps to randal--dammit, next time i'll *read* the outbound headers!)

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