Re: [modperl-site design challenge] Thomas Klausner (domm)
on 26.11.01 17:14, John Saylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
( 01.11.25 22:37 +0100 ) Thomas Klausner:
You can look at my idea of the the new modperl-site design here:
http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/
Nice work!
Is it all right to talk details?
In my opinion something like:
.content {
line-height: 130%;
}
... can improve readability quite a lot.
mathias
Re: [modperl-site design challenge] Thomas Klausner (domm)
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:36:07AM +0100, Robin Berjon wrote: * The first page (Home) successfully validates at w3.org (HTML and CSS). That's very good. Do the others validate as well (or at least, do you see any reason why they wouldn't ?) ? On some of the deeper pages, Pod::POM generates HTML like this: ul text /ul This isn't valid HTML (according to W3C), so those pages won't validate successfully. e.g: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/download/binaries.html Maybe you should use HTML tidy to automagically fix broken HTML? Another thing is that accessibility guidelines recommend using XHTML 1.1, since your HTML looks pretty clean and simple you might want to do that instead of using old HTML 3.2. Cheers, -- == \__ = /\/\ IT'S TIME FOR A DIFFERENT KIND OF WEB / /\__/\ \ _/_/_/\/\_\_ Jean-Michel Hiver - Software Director \ \ \/*/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED]+44 (0)114 221 4968 \ \/__\/ \/\ VISIT HTTP://WWW.MKDOC.COM == / ===
Re: [modperl-site design challenge] Thomas Klausner (domm)
Hi ( 01.11.25 22:37 +0100 ) Thomas Klausner: You can look at my idea of the the new modperl-site design here: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/ I like it. The main part of it is now just an elaboration of the contents, I imagine this will be a changing teaser of some sort. * While the design might not be to cool from the designers point of view, I like it because it is simple, doesn't use HTML-tables, is small and fast (/very/ little HTML-overhead) and accessible to disabled people. But that *is* cool. I think it's very well designed. To me, usability is the main design goal. Keep up the good work! -- \js
[modperl-site design challenge] Thomas Klausner (domm)
Hi! You can look at my idea of the the new modperl-site design here: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/ You can get the whole distro to download at: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/modperl-site-domm.src.tgz or just the output at: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/modperl-site-domm.dst.tgz Some Notes: * The first page (Home) successfully validates at w3.org (HTML and CSS). * While the design might not be to cool from the designers point of view, I like it because it is simple, doesn't use HTML-tables, is small and fast (/very/ little HTML-overhead) and accessible to disabled people. * The colours could be changed very easily, as they are only defined in default.css * I tested it with Mozilla, Opera and Lynx on Linux; Netscape 4.something and IE 6.0 on WinME; It worked very well on everything exept Netscape (because Netscpae 4's CSS handling is absolutly horrible!), but it was still usable on Netscape 4 (and looked OK with CSS turned off). -- D_OMM + http://domm.zsi.at -+ O_xyderkes | neu: Arbeitsplatz | M_echanen | http://domm.zsi.at/d/d162.html | M_asteuei ++
Re: [modperl-site design challenge] Thomas Klausner (domm)
On Sunday 25 November 2001 22:37, Thomas Klausner wrote: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/ Simple, nice, and cool (imho), thanks for submitting ! * The first page (Home) successfully validates at w3.org (HTML and CSS). That's very good. Do the others validate as well (or at least, do you see any reason why they wouldn't ?) ? * While the design might not be to cool from the designers point of view, I like it because it is simple, doesn't use HTML-tables, is small and fast (/very/ little HTML-overhead) and accessible to disabled people. That's imho fine. Until someone decides to become a marketing geek and creates content for PHB-oriented sections, all we need is to look clean enough, I don't think we need to look hypeful (if I may use such a word ;-). * I tested it with Mozilla, Opera and Lynx on Linux; Netscape 4.something and IE 6.0 on WinME; It works well in Konqueror 2.1 as well, except for the about page that seems to have a problem with CSS positioning (if you can't trace the problem down, contact me in personal mail and I'll try to see if it does indeed come from your code). It worked very well on everything exept Netscape (because Netscpae 4's CSS handling is absolutly horrible!), but it was still usable on Netscape 4 (and looked OK with CSS turned off). Netscape 4 isn't a web browser. This isn't a commercial site, and imho as long as it degrades well to N4 (ie is usable) then I think we can ignore cosmetic problems that may occur there. I don't think anyone even remotely knowledgeable about the web still uses that thing. Everyone knows it's the only piece of software ever concieved that makes Windows 95 look bug free in comparison. -- ___ Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CTO k n o w s c a p e : // venture knowledge agency www.knowscape.com --- Paranoids are people, too; they have their own problems. It's easy to criticize, but if everybody hated you, you'd be paranoid too.
Re: [modperl-site design challenge] Thomas Klausner (domm)
Hi! On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:36:07AM +0100, Robin Berjon wrote: * The first page (Home) successfully validates at w3.org (HTML and CSS). That's very good. Do the others validate as well (or at least, do you see any reason why they wouldn't ?) ? On some of the deeper pages, Pod::POM generates HTML like this: ul text /ul This isn't valid HTML (according to W3C), so those pages won't validate successfully. e.g: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/download/binaries.html Another problem Stas pointed out is with pages containing preformatted text (pre Tags), e.g. here: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/docs/devel/writing_tests/writing_tests.html If somebody knows a nice solution to this problem (pre-text flowing out of the containing box), please drop me a note! It worked very well on everything exept Netscape (because Netscpae 4's CSS handling is absolutly horrible!), but it was still usable on Netscape 4 (and looked OK with CSS turned off). Netscape 4 isn't a web browser ... Everyone knows it's the only piece of software ever concieved that makes Windows 95 look bug free in comparison. :-) -- D_OMM + http://domm.zsi.at -+ O_xyderkes | neu: Arbeitsplatz | M_echanen | http://domm.zsi.at/d/d162.html | M_asteuei ++
