Re: Advice sought for learning mod_perl (2 or 1)

2003-07-26 Thread Stas Bekman
Robert Lee wrote:
Ged Haywood wrote:

 Q1: Is there a similar module to Apache::Request?


Depends what you want to do, but not really.  Care to try porting it?


No no. Apache::Request 2 port is in works and it'll be available RSN 
thanks to Joe Schaefer and Randy Kobes who do an extraordinary job. 
Though it'll be released sooner if more people help with testing and 
polishing it. For more information see:
http://httpd.apache.org/apreq/
[...]
Stas, if you have the email of Joe and Randy, please email me; I'll see 
if I am of any use to them.
You can find the address of the apreq-dev list at: 
http://httpd.apache.org/apreq/. Once you are subscribed to it, you will know 
where exactly you can help.

Thanks.

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Re: Advice sought for learning mod_perl (2 or 1)

2003-07-25 Thread Robert Lee
Ged Haywood wrote:

 Q1: Is there a similar module to Apache::Request?


Depends what you want to do, but not really.  Care to try porting it?
No no. Apache::Request 2 port is in works and it'll be available RSN thanks 
to Joe Schaefer and Randy Kobes who do an extraordinary job. Though it'll 
be released sooner if more people help with testing and polishing it. For 
more information see:
http://httpd.apache.org/apreq/
Thanks for the responses; they were very helpful.

BTW: No, there are no commercial pressures involved in this project, but 
just doing a possible/likely career transition from the embedded-telecom 
implosion to something more of the "future". However, time (as always) is 
always of the essence, and I'll need to balance my choices available.

It's funny. I thought that Java would be a predominant player in the web 
world, but it looks like perl et al are the predominant players. That's ok 
as I'm was never a huge fan of Java anyhow ;p.

Enough of my rant. Thanks again.

Stas, if you have the email of Joe and Randy, please email me; I'll see if I 
am of any use to them.

Robert

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Re: Advice sought for learning mod_perl (2 or 1)

2003-07-24 Thread Stas Bekman
Ged Haywood wrote:

 Q1: Is there a similar module to Apache::Request?


Depends what you want to do, but not really.  Care to try porting it?
No no. Apache::Request 2 port is in works and it'll be available RSN thanks to 
Joe Schaefer and Randy Kobes who do an extraordinary job. Though it'll be 
released sooner if more people help with testing and polishing it. For more 
information see:
http://httpd.apache.org/apreq/

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Re: Advice sought for learning mod_perl (2 or 1)

2003-07-24 Thread Ged Haywood
Hello there,

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Robert Lee wrote:

> I am new to Apache/mod_perl and everything else.

We're all still learning...

> I bought a fairly good  book on Apache/mysql/mod_perl.

There are others, see the mod_perl web site:

http://perl.apache.org

> Unfortunately, it is based on the Apache 1 server and mod_perl1.

That's not too bad, there are lots of similarities.

>   Q1: Is there a similar module to Apache::Request?

Depends what you want to do, but not really.  Care to try porting it?

>   Q2: Any real benefits to working on the latest and greatest? Or
> should I go to the older versions?

Depends what you want to do... :)  If you are interested in learning
about it and you don't have a project that you have to put on a live
Webserver in a couple of months' time, I'd say stay with mp2 and watch
it evolve.  Maybe get involved in some of the development.  I wouldn't
consider mp2 for production use yet because of that evolution process
if for no other reason, but if you don't have the commercial pressures
then it doesn't matter so much and there's no point your spending a
lot of time learning about something if it's going to be more-or-less
history by the time you need to use it seriously.

> I realize that for Q2, I may want to simply go with the more "stable" 
> versions of the Apache server and mod_perl as I am just learning

For your education it's probably worth your while learning how to get
the latest CVS versions, at least of mod_perl.  The latest versions of
Apache2 and mod_perl2 will be quite stable enough for you to use to
learn about them.  Now your browsers on the other hand...

73,
Ged.



Advice sought for learning mod_perl (2 or 1)

2003-07-24 Thread Robert Lee
Hi everyone,

 I am new to Apache/mod_perl and everything else. I bought a fairly good 
book on Apache/mysql/mod_perl. Unfortunately, it is based on the Apache 1 
server and mod_perl1. In doing so, it is using the Apache::Request module 
which has not been ported to mod_perl2 yet.

 Several questions come to mind:

 Q1: Is there a similar module to Apache::Request? Similar to syntax that 
is.

 Q2: Any real benefits to working on the latest and greatest? Or should I 
go to the older versions?

Yes, I realize that for Q2, I may want to simply go with the more "stable" 
versions of the Apache server and mod_perl as I am just learning, but I 
would like to hear some opinions. Thanks.

Robert

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