RE: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
before the mails comes tumbling in ... please check this url [tested on winXP/IE6.0] as already send to the docs list and original poster http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/clean3/dst_html/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html thanks ./allan (There was no reason *why* taking out the 'position: relative's should work - it just struck me as the first thing that wasn't necessary in the style sheet. Possibly irritating an IE bug just a little too much) not sure which rule of position you were talking about. the above url specify no position for the rightbox div
Re: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
Quoting Jim Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? It works fine under Mozilla, and it's not a memory or cpu issue (checked with task manager already). And when I say slow, I mean a simple down cursor causes the visible portion of the page to get painted in 4 noticble steps/chunks. --Jim please check if the problem exists on this url: http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/clean3/dst_html/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html if you have other browser software, please check and see if anything else is broken there as well. thanks a lot! /allan
Re: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
[Let's move this thread to the docs-dev list, otherwise we make an OT noise at the modperl list, so, please, when replying to this email, remove the modperl address from it. thanks!] Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? It works fine under Mozilla, and it's not a memory or cpu issue (checked with task manager already). And when I say slow, I mean a simple down cursor causes the visible portion of the page to get painted in 4 noticble steps/chunks. --Jim please check if the problem exists on this url: http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/clean3/dst_html/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html if you have other browser software, please check and see if anything else is broken there as well. Allan, You are trying to solve it by applying HTML::Clean, which reduces the size of the page, right? But even if it does solve the problem for this particular page, what happens if the page grows, or there is some other page which is bigger, and no cleanup will make it small enough to make IE happy. __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
Re: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
Stas Bekman wrote: Jim Helm wrote: Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? It works fine under Mozilla, and it's not a memory or cpu issue (checked with task manager already). And when I say slow, I mean a simple down cursor causes the visible portion of the page to get painted in 4 noticble steps/chunks. An older version I tracked down with Google (http://www.apache.jp/perl/guide/performance.html) which is also 300K+ doesn't have the same problem - just to show that it's not purely the raw size of the page that is the problem. Just a little feedback for the new site (which is great, btw). If it's just me with the problem, I'll go find a rock to hide under. :) Is the size of the page causes the trouble? I don't have IE to try so hopefully someone will help us out here. What happens if you shorten the content of the page? My guess is that IE simply cannot cope with a long page and the current complex stylesheet (because as say it works fine with the same page and a simpler stylesheet, which includes no layout instructions). Suggestions on how to fix that are welcome. IE 5.50.4807.2300 (SP2) on Win98SE I had different problems - the first time I went to the page, IE crashed my machine, so I had to reboot. After I'd rebooted I went back to the page. I got the extremely slow scrolling, but, more significantly, I got the second half of the page overlaid on top of the first half. I grabbed a copy of the page with Opera's 'save with images' option (strangely enough doing it with IE, and viewing the result didn't get the same display) and verified that the bug occurred with my local copy. I then had a bit of a fiddle with the stylesheet, and discovered that taking out the 'position: relative's seemed to stop the overlay, improving IEs performance markedly without affecting the page layout in any of the browsers I have installed (Netscape 4.79, Mozilla 2002053012, Opera 6.04) (There was no reason *why* taking out the 'position: relative's should work - it just struck me as the first thing that wasn't necessary in the style sheet. Possibly irritating an IE bug just a little too much) Hope this helps, Steve -- Steve Piner Web Applications Developer Marketview Limited http://www.marketview.co.nz
Re: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
allan juul wrote: Quoting Jim Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? It works fine under Mozilla, and it's not a memory or cpu issue (checked with task manager already). And when I say slow, I mean a simple down cursor causes the visible portion of the page to get painted in 4 noticble steps/chunks. --Jim please check if the problem exists on this url: http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/clean3/dst_html/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html if you have other browser software, please check and see if anything else is broken there as well. thanks a lot! /allan Looks good to me with on Win98SE * IE 5.50.4807.2300 (SP2) * Netscape 4.79 * Mozilla 2002053012 * Opera 6.04 -- Steve Piner Web Applications Developer Marketview Limited http://www.marketview.co.nz
Re: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
Allan Juul wrote: before the mails comes tumbling in ... please check this url [tested on winXP/IE6.0] as already send to the docs list and original poster http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/clean3/dst_html/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html thanks ./allan (There was no reason *why* taking out the 'position: relative's should work - it just struck me as the first thing that wasn't necessary in the style sheet. Possibly irritating an IE bug just a little too much) not sure which rule of position you were talking about. the above url specify no position for the rightbox div div.rightbox had a 'position: relative' specified in ../../../style.css. It also specified a top and left of 0, so essentially the rule was saying 'lay out this box according to normal flow, then offset it from its original position by 0px' i.e. don't move it. It seemed superfluous, so I removed it. Doing so appeared to fix the problem with no discernible side effects. As for why it isn't affecting other pages, I have no idea. It's probably, as Stas suggests, a size thing. Is that the biggest page on the site? Steve -- Steve Piner Web Applications Developer Marketview Limited http://www.marketview.co.nz
New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? It works fine under Mozilla, and it's not a memory or cpu issue (checked with task manager already). And when I say slow, I mean a simple down cursor causes the visible portion of the page to get painted in 4 noticble steps/chunks. An older version I tracked down with Google (http://www.apache.jp/perl/guide/performance.html) which is also 300K+ doesn't have the same problem - just to show that it's not purely the raw size of the page that is the problem. Just a little feedback for the new site (which is great, btw). If it's just me with the problem, I'll go find a rock to hide under. :) --Jim A number of the most common sources of memory growth are explained in the guide: http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html#Improving_Perform ance_by_Prevention - Perrin
Re: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
Not just you. I have the same problem under MSIE. Issac - Original Message - From: Jim Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Perrin Harkins' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:23 AM Subject: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? It works fine under Mozilla, and it's not a memory or cpu issue (checked with task manager already). And when I say slow, I mean a simple down cursor causes the visible portion of the page to get painted in 4 noticble steps/chunks. An older version I tracked down with Google (http://www.apache.jp/perl/guide/performance.html) which is also 300K+ doesn't have the same problem - just to show that it's not purely the raw size of the page that is the problem. Just a little feedback for the new site (which is great, btw). If it's just me with the problem, I'll go find a rock to hide under. :) --Jim A number of the most common sources of memory growth are explained in the guide: http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html#Improving_Perform ance_by_Prevention - Perrin
RE: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
IE 5.5 on win2k as well. -Original Message- From: Issac Goldstand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Not just you. I have the same problem under MSIE. Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html#Improving_Perform
Re: New mod_perl site and oddness with IE
Jim Helm wrote: Has anyone else had problems with this particular page under IE (6.0.2600 under XP) being extremly slow to update when paging up/down? It works fine under Mozilla, and it's not a memory or cpu issue (checked with task manager already). And when I say slow, I mean a simple down cursor causes the visible portion of the page to get painted in 4 noticble steps/chunks. An older version I tracked down with Google (http://www.apache.jp/perl/guide/performance.html) which is also 300K+ doesn't have the same problem - just to show that it's not purely the raw size of the page that is the problem. Just a little feedback for the new site (which is great, btw). If it's just me with the problem, I'll go find a rock to hide under. :) Is the size of the page causes the trouble? I don't have IE to try so hopefully someone will help us out here. What happens if you shorten the content of the page? My guess is that IE simply cannot cope with a long page and the current complex stylesheet (because as say it works fine with the same page and a simpler stylesheet, which includes no layout instructions). Suggestions on how to fix that are welcome. __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
