Re: Way it is so copmplicated

2000-10-04 Thread Gunther Birznieks

The difficulties in using mod_perl are not an offtopic though.

But I agree about the intelligent part. There are certainly clearer ways of 
wording ones frustrations.

At 05:24 AM 10/4/00 -0400, ricarDo oliveiRa wrote:
>I think someone should tell Mr. "-" (aka 051581324) not to go offtopic. Or 
>at least say something intelligent, if you must go offtopic.
>
>--Original Message--
>From: Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: October 2, 2000 7:43:23 AM GMT
>Subject: Re: Way it is so copmplicated
>
>
>On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, - wrote:
>
> > I am developing computer software for more than 30 years.
> > Yet not able to install even the minimal support for ASP using APACHE
> > on WIN95 platform (which is no doubt,  the most popular in the world).
>
>Not for web serving. Please read the note about Windows on the Apache web
>site. Win95 is fundamentally broken for anything more than simple web
>serving. Even Microsoft's PWS for Win95 is extremely limited. (I really
>had better not be feeding a troll here, I haven't had much coffee yet...)
>
> > I do believe that there are a lot of persons getting salaries from
> > "APACHE ORG".
>
>I'm sure they wish that were the case. Most of the ASF members have day
>jobs.
>
> > Is it not reasonable that some of them are paid by Microsoft to make thinks
> > complicated, to slow Linux penetrating  ?
>
>No. Thats a truly unfair and unjust label to pin on these people who have
>done incredible work for free. Remember that MS pump millions of dollars
>into developing IIS, ASP and VBScript. We don't have $$$, we just use our
>desire to "give something back".
>
> > It is the fight for freedom !!!
>
>I'm not sure whether to consider your post a troll or not. It certainly
>smells of one. If you have a specific problem with installing Apache::ASP
>then why don't you tell us what those problems are, instead of just saying
>"Its too hard". Maybe, just maybe, we can help you.
>
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Re: Way it is so copmplicated

2000-10-04 Thread ricarDo oliveiRa

I think someone should tell Mr. "-" (aka 051581324) not to go offtopic. Or at least 
say something intelligent, if you must go offtopic.

--Original Message--
From: Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: October 2, 2000 7:43:23 AM GMT
Subject: Re: Way it is so copmplicated


On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, - wrote:

> I am developing computer software for more than 30 years.
> Yet not able to install even the minimal support for ASP using APACHE
> on WIN95 platform (which is no doubt,  the most popular in the world).

Not for web serving. Please read the note about Windows on the Apache web
site. Win95 is fundamentally broken for anything more than simple web
serving. Even Microsoft's PWS for Win95 is extremely limited. (I really
had better not be feeding a troll here, I haven't had much coffee yet...)

> I do believe that there are a lot of persons getting salaries from 
> "APACHE ORG". 

I'm sure they wish that were the case. Most of the ASF members have day
jobs.

> Is it not reasonable that some of them are paid by Microsoft to make thinks
> complicated, to slow Linux penetrating  ?

No. Thats a truly unfair and unjust label to pin on these people who have
done incredible work for free. Remember that MS pump millions of dollars
into developing IIS, ASP and VBScript. We don't have $$$, we just use our
desire to "give something back".

> It is the fight for freedom !!!

I'm not sure whether to consider your post a troll or not. It certainly
smells of one. If you have a specific problem with installing Apache::ASP
then why don't you tell us what those problems are, instead of just saying
"Its too hard". Maybe, just maybe, we can help you.

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Providing mod_perl, XML, Sybase and Oracle solutions
Email for training and consultancy availability.
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Re: Way it is so copmplicated

2000-10-02 Thread Eric Cholet

> I am developing computer software for more than 30 years.
> Yet not able to install even the minimal support for ASP using APACHE
> on WIN95 platform (which is no doubt,  the most popular in the world).

Well we've all had problems when installing things for the first time, that's
what this list is for, you'll find a lot of help here, provided you don't troll
that is.
Of course the Win95 platform may not be the best choice for a web server,
in fact Microsoft recommends you use NT or 2000 for servers.
 
> I do believe that there are a lot of persons getting salaries from 
> "APACHE ORG". 

This is of course totally untrue. "apache.org" doesn't even exist as
a legal entity, it's just a domain name. The ASF (Apache Software
Foundation) does not pay salaries to its members. 
 
> Is it not reasonable that some of them are paid by Microsoft to make thinks
> complicated, to slow Linux penetrating  ?

No, it isn't. One of the major goals of the current rewrite of Apache (version
2.0) is to make it very portable, and to achieve the same level of performance
under Windows version 1.3 has under Unix.
 
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Eric





Re: Way it is so copmplicated

2000-10-02 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, - wrote:

> I am developing computer software for more than 30 years.
> Yet not able to install even the minimal support for ASP using APACHE
> on WIN95 platform (which is no doubt,  the most popular in the world).

Not for web serving. Please read the note about Windows on the Apache web
site. Win95 is fundamentally broken for anything more than simple web
serving. Even Microsoft's PWS for Win95 is extremely limited. (I really
had better not be feeding a troll here, I haven't had much coffee yet...)

> I do believe that there are a lot of persons getting salaries from 
> "APACHE ORG". 

I'm sure they wish that were the case. Most of the ASF members have day
jobs.

> Is it not reasonable that some of them are paid by Microsoft to make thinks
> complicated, to slow Linux penetrating  ?

No. Thats a truly unfair and unjust label to pin on these people who have
done incredible work for free. Remember that MS pump millions of dollars
into developing IIS, ASP and VBScript. We don't have $$$, we just use our
desire to "give something back".

> It is the fight for freedom !!!

I'm not sure whether to consider your post a troll or not. It certainly
smells of one. If you have a specific problem with installing Apache::ASP
then why don't you tell us what those problems are, instead of just saying
"Its too hard". Maybe, just maybe, we can help you.

-- 


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Providing mod_perl, XML, Sybase and Oracle solutions
Email for training and consultancy availability.
http://sergeant.org | AxKit: http://axkit.org




Way it is so copmplicated

2000-10-02 Thread -

I am developing computer software for more than 30 years.
Yet not able to install even the minimal support for ASP using APACHE
on WIN95 platform (which is no doubt,  the most popular in the world).

I do believe that there are a lot of persons getting salaries from 
"APACHE ORG". 

Is it not reasonable that some of them are paid by Microsoft to make thinks
complicated, to slow Linux penetrating  ?

It is the fight for freedom !!!

Assil