Re: Can't install mod_perl
Raymond Wan wrote: I'm not an expert on this, but looked into this briefly as I was worried about the level of support. From asking around, it seems that you can install 32-bit Linux on a 64-bit machine, but of course, you lose all the benefits of the 64 bits (access to larger disks and more memory per process). As an example, when I purchased my 64-bit machine, I was given the option to have Windows XP 32-bit or Windows XP 64-bit pre-installed for me. So yes, I guess a 32-bit OS can be installed. This is getting off-topic, but to put this issue to rest, I can confirm that both 32-bit Debian and 32-bit Windows XP run on 64-bit AMD processors. In the end, though, it's a bit silly to run a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit processor, since you're wasting all that extra, fancy 64-bit stuff. Colin
Re: Can't install mod_perl
Hi Octavian, Octavian Rasnita wrote: Please tell me, have you succeeded to install mod_perl under a X86_64 machine? If yes, please advice what should I do. Yes, I have, and haven't noticed any problems. I installed Debian stable (AMD64 version): http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ . The installation was generally straight-forward, but I encounter other problems such as Adobe Flash not being available, etc. But as for Apache 2/mod_perl 2...things are fine. If you didn't, do you know if a 32 bit Linux OS can be installed under a 64 bit machine? Is it adviceable to do this for a production machine? I'm not an expert on this, but looked into this briefly as I was worried about the level of support. From asking around, it seems that you can install 32-bit Linux on a 64-bit machine, but of course, you lose all the benefits of the 64 bits (access to larger disks and more memory per process). As an example, when I purchased my 64-bit machine, I was given the option to have Windows XP 32-bit or Windows XP 64-bit pre-installed for me. So yes, I guess a 32-bit OS can be installed. In the end, I decided against it and have a 64-bit OS. Otherwise, I'm wasting the extra money if I'm not using the extra hardware. Back when I was deciding, software like OpenOffice was unavailable for 64-bits...that has since changed and now, I don't have many complaints other than minor things like Adobe Flash, etc. Good luck with your mod_perl problem...sorry I couldn't give advice related to it, but it seems others have already... Ray
Re: Can't install mod_perl
From: Fred Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting a good build of perl under x86_64 can be a bit tricky, when you compile perl you need to make sure that the default directories to search includes /usr/lib64. It took me a few tries to get it right, I posted my experiences here - http://use.perl.org/~Phred/journal/31581 Here's another good link I found on the subject - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-modperl/200505.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd say take another few tries at it and make sure to pay extra close attention to the default search path when compiling perl - it can be done! Thank you for these links. I will try again. Now at least I know for sure that I did something wrong. I have used the paths to /lib64, /usr/lib64, and even to the empty dir /usr/local/lib64, but I removed the paths to /lib, /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib, which I think it is not ok. Octavian
Can't install mod_perl
Hi, I am trying hard to install mod_perl under SuSE X86_64 but I cannot do it. It gives the error below on the make step. I have searched for this error on the net, and I found only that perl could be badly installed, or Apache. I installed perl using the /lib64 /usr/lib64 and /usr/local/lib64 directories and not the default (/lib /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib). I have also chose to install it with 64 bit support. The problem is that I don't know how to be sure that Apache is installed with 64 bit support. I have also tried by installing Active Perl for Linux X86_64 which I guess it was compiled correctly, but it gave the same error on the make step for mod_perl. First I installed perl using default libraries (from /lib, /usr/lib...) and I wasn't able to compile DBD::mysql. After using /lib64, /usr/lib64... I was able to compile DBD::mysql, so I think perl is installed correctly. This is why I think Apache is not installed as it should, but I don't know how to install it with 64 bit support. Please tell me, have you succeeded to install mod_perl under a X86_64 machine? If yes, please advice what should I do. If you didn't, do you know if a 32 bit Linux OS can be installed under a 64 bit machine? Is it adviceable to do this for a production machine? If it helps, here is the result of `uname -a`: Linux duahp 2.6.16.13-4-smp #1 SMP Wed May 3 04:53:23 UTC 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Thank you very much. Here is the error: duahp:/usr/local/src/mod_perl-2.0.3 # make cd src/modules/perl make make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mod_perl-2.0.3/src/modules/perl' rm -f mod_perl.so gcc -shared \ \ mod_perl.lo modperl_interp.lo modperl_tipool.lo modperl_log.lo modperl_config.lo modperl_cmd.lo modperl_options.lo modperl_callback. lo modperl_handler.lo modperl_gtop.lo modperl_util.lo modperl_io.lo modperl_io_apache.lo modperl_filter.lo modperl_bucket.lo modperl _mgv.lo modperl_pcw.lo modperl_global.lo modperl_env.lo modperl_cgi.lo modperl_perl.lo modperl_perl_global.lo modperl_perl_pp.lo mod perl_sys.lo modperl_module.lo modperl_svptr_table.lo modperl_const.lo modperl_constants.lo modperl_apache_compat.lo modperl_error.lo modperl_debug.lo modperl_common_util.lo modperl_common_log.lo modperl_hooks.lo modperl_directives.lo modperl_flags.lo modperl_xsini t.lo modperl_exports.lo -Wl,-E /usr/local/perl_588/lib/CORE/libperl.a -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc \ -o mod_perl.so /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: /usr/local/perl_588/lib/CORE/libperl.a(gv.o): relocatio n R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/local/perl_588/lib/CORE/libperl.a: could not read symbols: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [mod_perl.so] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/mod_perl-2.0.3/src/modules/perl' make: *** [modperl_lib] Error 2 duahp:/usr/local/src/mod_perl-2.0.3 # Ready ssh2: AES-12 21, 39 52 Rows, 132 Cols VT100 Octavian
Re: Can't install mod_perl
/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: /usr/local/perl_588/lib/CORE/libperl.a(gv.o): relocatio n R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC the first google match for recompile with -fPIC and mod_perl gives what looks to be the answer. archives++ --Geoff
Re: Can't install mod_perl
From: Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: /usr/local/perl_588/lib/CORE/libperl.a(gv.o): relocatio n R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC the first google match for recompile with -fPIC and mod_perl gives what looks to be the answer. archives++ --Geoff I have already compiled perl with -fpic and then with -fPIC, but it still gives the same error when compiling mod_perl. Octavian
Re: Can't install mod_perl
[sorry my email client dropped the list from the thread, my bad] From: Fred Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:26 am, Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: /usr/local/perl_588/lib/CORE/libperl.a(gv.o): relocatio n R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC the first google match for recompile with -fPIC and mod_perl gives what looks to be the answer. archives++ --Geoff I have already compiled perl with -fpic and then with -fPIC, but it still gives the same error when compiling mod_perl. Are you sure that you are compiling mod_perl with the fpic enabled perl and not your system perl? I ran into this exact same issue on x86_64 and fpic worked here. Its been a while since I did that but I don't remember there being any other gotchas. I did: $ which perl /usr/bin/perl $ ls -l /usr/bin/perl so you replaced your system perl with a version that you compiled, you probably want to avoid doing that since other programs on your system might depend on that specific compilation. Instead use -DPrefix to specify a different location for the new perl you compile, and then /path/to/my/perl Makefile.PL to compile mod_perl And it shown a link to the perl I've just installed using -fPIC. And I've starting compiling mod_perl using: $ perl Makefile.PL MP_APXS=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs Then on make it gave that error. Getting a good build of perl under x86_64 can be a bit tricky, when you compile perl you need to make sure that the default directories to search includes /usr/lib64. It took me a few tries to get it right, I posted my experiences here - http://use.perl.org/~Phred/journal/31581 Here's another good link I found on the subject - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-modperl/200505.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd say take another few tries at it and make sure to pay extra close attention to the default search path when compiling perl - it can be done! I have also tried using Active State's Active Perl binary for X86_64, with the same results. (I had previously renamed the folder /usr/lib/perl5 to /usr/lib/old_perl5 for beeing sure that the system perl won't be found). If I'd knew that Apache, Perl and MySQL will run well on a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine, I'd install a 32 bit OS, but I heard that a 32 bit OS runs slower on a 64 bit processor, even slower than on a 32 bit processor. I don't know what to do. Octavian
