[MonoTouch] Using Portable Library Projects in MonoDevelop/MonoTouch
Hi All I'm still plugging away at trying to get Portable Library projects to work fully across wp7, winrt, droid and touch. I'm especially trying this as it will deliver lots of benefits in terms of refactoring and csproj project management to me as a cross platform developer. I've previously managed to: - get all projects to build in VS2010 - using VSMonoTouch with a fair amount of hacking - http://slodge.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/using-portable-library-tools-for.html - get all projects to run in wp7, winrt and monodroid from the PC - get MonoTouch/MonoDevelop on the Mac to load Portable Library Project files - but this seems only to work if I force the Profile type to Profile1 - get MonoTouch projects to use Portable Class Libraries if I add them as compiled references rather than as project references. However, there are still a few gaps I'm trying to fill - all of them on MonoDevelop on the Mac: 1. I don't seem to be able to find any way to load PLPs project files in MonoDevelop outside of Profile1 - if the .csproj file contains anything other than Profile1 in `TargetProfileFrameworkProfile1/TargetProfileFramework` then it won't load. 2. I can't work out how to edit the installed profiles. Ideally I'd like to go even further than Profile 4 - ideally I'd like to extend this all the way up to Profile 104 as I can then link in my own type redirection/substitution stubs for the limited required System.Net and System.Windows assemblies. 3. I can't work out how to reference portable library projects from MonoTouch projects - I can add the references, but as soon as I select a configuration like Debug|iPhoneSimulator then the PLP is greyed out and not build in active configuration appears. I appreciate that much of what I'm trying here is on the edge of what has currently been tried, and I realise that some of the features I'm trying to use are only available in Beta from Microsoft, but I really strongly believe in this as the way forwards - so that's why I'm trying so hard to get it working :) Has anyone got any ideas about what I could try to move this forwards? I am toying with the monodevelop source code right now, but haven't really gotten very far into it yet. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'd love to hear them. Thanks - and sorry for such a long post on a Friday! Stuart -- View this message in context: http://monotouch.2284126.n4.nabble.com/Using-Portable-Library-Projects-in-MonoDevelop-MonoTouch-tp4654346.html Sent from the MonoTouch mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ MonoTouch mailing list MonoTouch@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch
Re: [MonoTouch] Using Portable Library Projects in MonoDevelop/MonoTouch
Hi Stuart, On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:02 AM, slodge m...@slodge.com wrote: Hi All I'm still plugging away at trying to get Portable Library projects to work fully across wp7, winrt, droid and touch. I'm especially trying this as it will deliver lots of benefits in terms of refactoring and csproj project management to me as a cross platform developer. I've previously managed to: - get all projects to build in VS2010 - using VSMonoTouch with a fair amount of hacking - http://slodge.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/using-portable-library-tools-for.html - get all projects to run in wp7, winrt and monodroid from the PC - get MonoTouch/MonoDevelop on the Mac to load Portable Library Project files - but this seems only to work if I force the Profile type to Profile1 - get MonoTouch projects to use Portable Class Libraries if I add them as compiled references rather than as project references. However, there are still a few gaps I'm trying to fill - all of them on MonoDevelop on the Mac: 1. I don't seem to be able to find any way to load PLPs project files in MonoDevelop outside of Profile1 - if the .csproj file contains anything other than Profile1 in `TargetProfileFrameworkProfile1/TargetProfileFramework` then it won't load. Hmm, this seems like a bug. I'll look into this. Could you submit a bug report to http://bugzilla.xamarin.com for tracking? The IPhone Add-In component is a good place to submit these (that should auto-assign the bugs to me). 2. I can't work out how to edit the installed profiles. Ideally I'd like to go even further than Profile 4 - ideally I'd like to extend this all the way up to Profile 104 as I can then link in my own type redirection/substitution stubs for the limited required System.Net and System.Windows assemblies. There's currently no editor UI for this because we currently do not have any of the XML files that define the profiles, so the only way to have done it would have been to hard-code the profile names and relations. We want to eventually have full support for .NETPortable projects and be compatible with Microsoft, but we do not currently have the XML / API definitions for the profiles as part of Mono. It *is* in our queue to figure out how to generate these, because long-term we agree that this is the way forward. Once we find a way to include those in Mono, it'll become a high priority to implement a UI for selecting these profile configurations. 3. I can't work out how to reference portable library projects from MonoTouch projects - I can add the references, but as soon as I select a configuration like Debug|iPhoneSimulator then the PLP is greyed out and not build in active configuration appears. What configurations does it work with? I could have sworn this worked. Could you submit a bug for this one, too? I'll look into this one as well. I appreciate that much of what I'm trying here is on the edge of what has currently been tried, and I realise that some of the features I'm trying to use are only available in Beta from Microsoft, but I really strongly believe in this as the way forwards - so that's why I'm trying so hard to get it working :) We think it's the way forward, too. Has anyone got any ideas about what I could try to move this forwards? I am toying with the monodevelop source code right now, but haven't really gotten very far into it yet. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'd love to hear them. The easiest way to poke around the .NETPortable stuff is probably to use `git log --author=jeff` and then search for .NETPortable (it's how I remind myself where the source files are!) For example, one of the source files is: main/src/core/MonoDevelop.Core/MonoDevelop.Projects/PortableDotNetProject.cs Hope that helps, Jeff ___ MonoTouch mailing list MonoTouch@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch
Re: [MonoTouch] Using Portable Library Projects in MonoDevelop/MonoTouch
Thanks Jeff Will drill down through your ideas during this weekend and into next week. I'm already logging a few issues - but don't want to log too many when I know I'm working on the edge of the dev curve. What sort of thing do you need to know for the profiles - I've got this https://gist.github.com/2788579 And I've also got very helpful contact from Daniel (@dsplaisted) within the MS PCL/PLP team if that helps - he seems genuinely really keen to see PCLs used across all platforms. Stuart On 25 May 2012 15:22, Jeff Stedfast j...@xamarin.com wrote: Hi Stuart, On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:02 AM, slodge m...@slodge.com wrote: Hi All I'm still plugging away at trying to get Portable Library projects to work fully across wp7, winrt, droid and touch. I'm especially trying this as it will deliver lots of benefits in terms of refactoring and csproj project management to me as a cross platform developer. I've previously managed to: - get all projects to build in VS2010 - using VSMonoTouch with a fair amount of hacking - http://slodge.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/using-portable-library-tools-for.html - get all projects to run in wp7, winrt and monodroid from the PC - get MonoTouch/MonoDevelop on the Mac to load Portable Library Project files - but this seems only to work if I force the Profile type to Profile1 - get MonoTouch projects to use Portable Class Libraries if I add them as compiled references rather than as project references. However, there are still a few gaps I'm trying to fill - all of them on MonoDevelop on the Mac: 1. I don't seem to be able to find any way to load PLPs project files in MonoDevelop outside of Profile1 - if the .csproj file contains anything other than Profile1 in `TargetProfileFrameworkProfile1/TargetProfileFramework` then it won't load. Hmm, this seems like a bug. I'll look into this. Could you submit a bug report to http://bugzilla.xamarin.com for tracking? The IPhone Add-In component is a good place to submit these (that should auto-assign the bugs to me). 2. I can't work out how to edit the installed profiles. Ideally I'd like to go even further than Profile 4 - ideally I'd like to extend this all the way up to Profile 104 as I can then link in my own type redirection/substitution stubs for the limited required System.Net and System.Windows assemblies. There's currently no editor UI for this because we currently do not have any of the XML files that define the profiles, so the only way to have done it would have been to hard-code the profile names and relations. We want to eventually have full support for .NETPortable projects and be compatible with Microsoft, but we do not currently have the XML / API definitions for the profiles as part of Mono. It *is* in our queue to figure out how to generate these, because long-term we agree that this is the way forward. Once we find a way to include those in Mono, it'll become a high priority to implement a UI for selecting these profile configurations. 3. I can't work out how to reference portable library projects from MonoTouch projects - I can add the references, but as soon as I select a configuration like Debug|iPhoneSimulator then the PLP is greyed out and not build in active configuration appears. What configurations does it work with? I could have sworn this worked. Could you submit a bug for this one, too? I'll look into this one as well. I appreciate that much of what I'm trying here is on the edge of what has currently been tried, and I realise that some of the features I'm trying to use are only available in Beta from Microsoft, but I really strongly believe in this as the way forwards - so that's why I'm trying so hard to get it working :) We think it's the way forward, too. Has anyone got any ideas about what I could try to move this forwards? I am toying with the monodevelop source code right now, but haven't really gotten very far into it yet. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'd love to hear them. The easiest way to poke around the .NETPortable stuff is probably to use `git log --author=jeff` and then search for .NETPortable (it's how I remind myself where the source files are!) For example, one of the source files is: main/src/core/MonoDevelop.Core/MonoDevelop.Projects/PortableDotNetProject.cs Hope that helps, Jeff ___ MonoTouch mailing list MonoTouch@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch
Re: [MonoTouch] Using Portable Library Projects in MonoDevelop/MonoTouch
Just logged the two issues and also updated the Gist so it shows slightly more public member info in the profile dump - https://gist.github.com/2788579 Hope that helps Thanks again for your answers :) Stuart - away for the weekend so will get back on this next week now :) ___ MonoTouch mailing list MonoTouch@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch
Re: [MonoTouch] Using Portable Library Projects in MonoDevelop/MonoTouch
Thanks Stuart, I'll look into these issues. Jeff On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Stuart Lodge m...@slodge.com wrote: Just logged the two issues and also updated the Gist so it shows slightly more public member info in the profile dump - https://gist.github.com/2788579 Hope that helps Thanks again for your answers :) Stuart - away for the weekend so will get back on this next week now :) ___ MonoTouch mailing list MonoTouch@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch
