Re: [MOPO] Congratulations To Ed Flood His Wife!!!

2005-09-27 Thread Phil Edwards Cinema Arts

Yeah! Great news! Well done Ed!
Better done Sue! Ouch!!!
Tom. we'll spread the news via NS4 too, I'm sure you won't mind!

Cheers!
Phil  Mila


Shelly Whitworth-King wrote:


WOW!  Congratulations to the Flood family.

Shelly


Original Message Follows
From: Tom A. Pennock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [MOPO] Congratulations To Ed Flood  His Wife!!!
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:52:53 EDT

I hope Ed Flood and his wife don't mind me breaking this wonderful and
happy
news. Ed's wife gave birth to three healthy triplets. I am so happy
for my
friend Ed and his wife. What a wonderful event to start off the new
week on
a
very happy note.
My Best Wishes and Congratulations To Them Both!

Sincerely,

--Tom Pennock

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Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!

2005-09-27 Thread pj angel

JR, all,

Scary is right. They were able to access my eBay account, take it over (change the PW), and list bogus auctions just by me answering the "ASK THE SELLER A QUESTION: "Will you combine multiple items for one postage cost?" on my yahoo email account with the answer: "Yes. I certainly will. Thank you for emailing".

The eBay rep could not offer any explanation. I don't think he could offer one.I still find it hard to believe. If there are any computer geniuses reading this that can confirm this is possible,please do so.

I'm still wracking the brain: maybe there was something else I inadvertently did wrong.

pj
JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


PJ,

This is one scary story! What bothers me is just how they got hold of the password to your eBay account? When you replied to a seller question, they got your email address, but that should not have given them the ebay account password. Did the eBay rep offer any explanation as to how they got it?

A note to everyone: Because of stuff like this I do not have a "password list" on my computer and whenever I get to one of those log-ins where they ask "remember me on this computer" I say no. Whenever I see that little checkbox on a sign-in page that says "add to your password list" I make it isNOT checked. I write my various passwords down on a little slip of paper hidden away, and I always delete those confirmation emails you get when you set up an account that include my password.

JR

- Original Message - 

From: pj angel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:08
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!



True Story:

Yesterday, while I was looking at my ebigtownfilmposters seller site, checking on the VHS/DVDs I have running, to my astonished eyes a new auction suddenly appeared. It was for a $999 exercise bike. As I was trying to reacquire my wits, a second auction appears: a John Deere tractor!!A quick look around the house and backyard revealed neither item. (ha ha)

The seller fees were hundreds of dollars! (Blood rushing from my face. I'm feeling dizzy...)

Thinking I was seeing things, I logged out and logged back. Or tried to. My password would no longer work. (Am I gonna faint now?)

Without the aid of smelling salts I was able to sit for a moment and think out this deplorable situationand by doing so, able to figure out my next move. It was this: Live Chat on eBay got me a moderator within minutes. After explaining the situation to "Kenau", and proving to him I was the right person for the account, the account was immediately "blocked", thebogus fees removed. 

So, how did this happen? Kenau check the account and came up with:

Answer: I replied to a bogus"Ask A Seller A Question" email in my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account.It looked legit in every way.Sellers get these all the time. I get them all the time. Now I can't trust them anymore. Neither should you. I have changed my ebay Password. I have changed my Yahoo email Password. I will block future emails with eBay in the address and rely only on the message center in the eBay account itself.

I thought I was the most careful guy on this list when it came to bogus/spoof email protection. I thought I could spot them a mile off. I never responded to any email from eBay in my account. I was careful, careful, careful... Turns out it doesn't matter how careful you are, they'll get you some how, some way.

Hats off to ebay, though, for the quick and desicisive kill, and fix, of the account.

The ebay email is worth sharing with you now:

"Dear ebigtownfilmposters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]),It appears your account was accessed by an unauthorized third party and used to place several unauthorized listings on eBay or to alter some of your current listings. Additionally, the email address on your account may have been tampered with, which is why you may not have received an email about these listings we have taken several steps to secure your eBay account 
We were able to end all unauthorized listings on your account without incident. At the time the listings were ended, all associated fees were credited to your account. We assure you that your credit card information is stored on a secure server and cannot be viewed by anyone.To regain control of your account, please follow the steps outlined below:
1. Change the password on your personal EMAIL account to verify that it is secure and cannot be accessed by anyone other than you.2. Click the " “Forgot your password” link on the eBay Sing In page and change your password using the instructions provided.3. Click on the "Security Center" link found at the bottom of most eBay pages. Click on the "eBay Account Protection" link the Online Security Resources box.This will take you to the help page entitled Securing Your Account and Reporting Account Theft."

Inin a few days I'll request the "block" on the account tobe removed (via Live Chat), and with new passwords (at ebay and yahoo) start again, but this 

Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!

2005-09-27 Thread JR



PJ,

This is one scary story! What bothers me is just how they got hold of the 
password to your eBay account? When you replied to a seller question, they got 
your email address, but that should not have given them the ebay account 
password. Did the eBay rep offer any explanation as to how they got it?

A note to everyone: Because of stuff like this I do not have a "password 
list" on my computer and whenever I get to one of those log-ins where they ask 
"remember me on this computer" I say no. Whenever I see that little checkbox on 
a sign-in page that says "add to your password list" I make it isNOT 
checked. I write my various passwords down on a little slip of paper hidden 
away, and I always delete those confirmation emails you get when you set up an 
account that include my password.

JR

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  pj angel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 
  12:08
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message 
  from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!
  
  
  
  True Story:
  
  Yesterday, while I was looking at my ebigtownfilmposters 
  seller site, checking on the VHS/DVDs I have running, to my astonished eyes a 
  new auction suddenly appeared. It was for a $999 exercise bike. As I was 
  trying to reacquire my wits, a second auction appears: a John Deere 
  tractor!!A quick look around the house and backyard revealed 
  neither item. (ha ha)
  
  The seller fees were hundreds of dollars! (Blood rushing from my 
  face. I'm feeling dizzy...)
  
  Thinking I was seeing things, I logged out and logged back. Or tried to. 
  My password would no longer work. (Am I gonna faint now?)
  
  Without the aid of smelling salts I was able to sit for a moment and 
  think out this deplorable situationand by doing so, able to figure out 
  my next move. It was this: Live Chat on eBay got me a moderator 
  within minutes. After explaining the situation to "Kenau", and 
  proving to him I was the right person for the account, the account was 
  immediately "blocked", thebogus fees removed. 
  
  So, how did this happen? Kenau check the account and came up with:
  
  Answer: I replied to a bogus"Ask A Seller A 
  Question" email in my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account.It 
  looked legit in every way.Sellers get these all the time. I get 
  them all the time. Now I can't trust them anymore. Neither should you. I have 
  changed my ebay Password. I have changed my Yahoo email Password. I will block 
  future emails with eBay in the address and rely only on the message center in 
  the eBay account itself.
  
  I thought I was the most careful guy on this list when it came to 
  bogus/spoof email protection. I thought I could spot them a mile off. I never 
  responded to any email from eBay in my account. I was careful, careful, 
  careful... Turns out it doesn't matter how careful you are, they'll get you 
  some how, some way.
  
  Hats off to ebay, though, for the quick and desicisive kill, and fix, of 
  the account.
  
  The ebay email is worth sharing with you now:
  
  "Dear ebigtownfilmposters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]),It 
  appears your account was accessed by an unauthorized third party and used to 
  place several unauthorized listings on eBay or to alter some of your current 
  listings. Additionally, the email address on your account may have been 
  tampered with, which is why you may not have received an email about these 
  listings we have taken several steps to secure your eBay account 
  
  We were able to end all unauthorized listings on your account 
  without incident. At the time the listings were ended, all associated fees 
  were credited to your account. We assure you that your credit card information 
  is stored on a secure server and cannot be viewed by anyone.To regain 
  control of your account, please follow the steps outlined 
below:
  1. Change the password on your personal EMAIL account to verify that 
  it is secure and cannot be accessed by anyone other than you.2. Click the 
  " Forgot your password link on the eBay Sing In page and change your 
  password using the instructions provided.3. Click on the "Security Center" 
  link found at the bottom of most eBay pages. Click on the "eBay 
  Account Protection" link the Online Security Resources box.This will 
  take you to the help page entitled Securing Your Account and Reporting Account 
  Theft."
  
  Inin a few days I'll request the "block" on the account tobe 
  removed (via Live Chat), and with new passwords (at ebay and yahoo) start 
  again, but this time better protected and wiser. I hope.
  
  Bottom line: Henry, don't even think about responding to 
  this, or any future email, from eBay or PayPal. If you have a 
  question if it's legit or not, forward it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]: they will let you know it 
  it's good or not.
  
  pjJR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



Of course it is. Of course you don't.

-- JR

  - Original Message 

Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!

2005-09-27 Thread JR



PJ,

The only thing I can think of is this:

1) Once they had your email address (the one registered to your eBay 
account and eBay ID) they somehow managed to re-direct eBay messages sent to 
that address to themselves. I'm not sure how this is done, but I have heard it 
is possible -- perhaps by using a little backdoorrecently applied to the 
structure of the internet in the interests of "national security" which the 
hackers have found out how to access?

2) If they could redirect messages sentby eBay to your address to 
their own address, they could then go to eBay, click on the "forgot my password" 
button and proceed to change your original password to one of their own -- since 
ebay sends confirmation messages to the registered account email address that 
must be received and clicked before the password change can take place.

I can't imagine it being done any other way if you never typed your 
password into a cleverly-designed"Trojan" sign-in page. 

If I'mright about how it was done,it means that the internet 
has been so thoroughly compromised at this point -- by whomever for whatever 
reason -- that doing business on it is now a much higher-risk proposition than 
it has ever been. A truly dismal thought.

Here's one suggestion I'll toss out to the group and see what people 
think:

If indeedall they needed to access PJ's eBay account was the email 
address he had registered with that account, there might be a way to still 
respond toa questionsent to you via"ask seller a question" and 
be safe. How about: If you get a question from a potential buyer, don't "reply" 
to it. Instead, note the return email address and compose a NEW message -- using 
a totally DIFFERENT email address to send it with than the one which is 
registered to your eBay account -- and answer the potential buyer's question 
that way.

-- JR


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  pj angel 
  To: JR ; pj angel ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 
  13:06
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message 
  from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!
  
  
  JR, all,
  
  Scary is right. They were able to access my eBay account, take it over 
  (change the PW), and list bogus auctions just by me answering the "ASK THE 
  SELLER A QUESTION: "Will you combine multiple items for one postage 
  cost?" on my yahoo email account with the answer: "Yes. I certainly 
  will. Thank you for emailing".
  
  The eBay rep could not offer any explanation. I don't think he 
  could offer one.I still find it hard to 
  believe. If there are any computer geniuses reading this that can confirm this 
  is possible,please do so.
  
  I'm still wracking the brain: maybe there was something else I 
  inadvertently did wrong.
  
  pj
  JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

PJ,

This is one scary story! What bothers me is just how they got hold of 
the password to your eBay account? When you replied to a seller question, 
they got your email address, but that should not have given them the ebay 
account password. Did the eBay rep offer any explanation as to how they got 
it?

A note to everyone: Because of stuff like this I do not have a 
"password list" on my computer and whenever I get to one of those log-ins 
where they ask "remember me on this computer" I say no. Whenever I see that 
little checkbox on a sign-in page that says "add to your password list" I 
make it isNOT checked. I write my various passwords down on a little 
slip of paper hidden away, and I always delete those confirmation emails you 
get when you set up an account that include my password.

JR

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  pj angel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 
  12:08
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird 
  message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!
  
  
  
  True Story:
  
  Yesterday, while I was looking at my 
  ebigtownfilmposters seller site, checking on the VHS/DVDs 
  I have running, to my astonished eyes a new auction suddenly appeared. It 
  was for a $999 exercise bike. As I was trying to reacquire my wits, a 
  second auction appears: a John Deere tractor!!A quick look 
  around the house and backyard revealed neither item. (ha ha)
  
  The seller fees were hundreds of dollars! (Blood rushing from my 
  face. I'm feeling dizzy...)
  
  Thinking I was seeing things, I logged out and logged back. Or tried 
  to. My password would no longer work. (Am I gonna faint 
  now?)
  
  Without the aid of smelling salts I was able to sit for a moment and 
  think out this deplorable situationand by doing so, able to figure 
  out my next move. It was this: Live Chat on eBay got me a 
  moderator within minutes. After explaining the situation to 
  "Kenau", and proving to him I was the right person for the 

[MOPO] wanted: ALL KINDS OF U.S. 3 SHEETS

2005-09-27 Thread David Lieberman
Title: AOL Email





  
  

  
  
  Sorry I can't be more specific.
  
  Please let me know what you have for sale.
  
  Thanks,
  David LiebermanCineMasterpieces.com602 309 
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Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!

2005-09-27 Thread pj angel
If you get a question from a potential buyer, don't "reply" to it. Instead, note the return email address and compose a NEW message -- using a totally DIFFERENT email address to send it with than the one which is registered to your eBay account -- and answer the potential buyer's question that way.
Not bad. But this is even better: 

If you get a ASK A SELLER A QUESTION from a potential buyer, don't "reply" to it.Instead, go to yourMY EBAY account and if the question/email is legit, it will be listed in your "message center". Answer it there.

pj

JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


PJ,

The only thing I can think of is this:

1) Once they had your email address (the one registered to your eBay account and eBay ID) they somehow managed to re-direct eBay messages sent to that address to themselves. I'm not sure how this is done, but I have heard it is possible -- perhaps by using a little backdoorrecently applied to the structure of the internet in the interests of "national security" which the hackers have found out how to access?

2) If they could redirect messages sentby eBay to your address to their own address, they could then go to eBay, click on the "forgot my password" button and proceed to change your original password to one of their own -- since ebay sends confirmation messages to the registered account email address that must be received and clicked before the password change can take place.

I can't imagine it being done any other way if you never typed your password into a cleverly-designed"Trojan" sign-in page. 

If I'mright about how it was done,it means that the internet has been so thoroughly compromised at this point -- by whomever for whatever reason -- that doing business on it is now a much higher-risk proposition than it has ever been. A truly dismal thought.

Here's one suggestion I'll toss out to the group and see what people think:

If indeedall they needed to access PJ's eBay account was the email address he had registered with that account, there might be a way to still respond toa questionsent to you via"ask seller a question" and be safe. How about: If you get a question from a potential buyer, don't "reply" to it. Instead, note the return email address and compose a NEW message -- using a totally DIFFERENT email address to send it with than the one which is registered to your eBay account -- and answer the potential buyer's question that way.

-- JR


- Original Message - 
From: pj angel 
To: JR ; pj angel ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 13:06
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!


JR, all,

Scary is right. They were able to access my eBay account, take it over (change the PW), and list bogus auctions just by me answering the "ASK THE SELLER A QUESTION: "Will you combine multiple items for one postage cost?" on my yahoo email account with the answer: "Yes. I certainly will. Thank you for emailing".

The eBay rep could not offer any explanation. I don't think he could offer one.I still find it hard to believe. If there are any computer geniuses reading this that can confirm this is possible,please do so.

I'm still wracking the brain: maybe there was something else I inadvertently did wrong.

pj
JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


PJ,

This is one scary story! What bothers me is just how they got hold of the password to your eBay account? When you replied to a seller question, they got your email address, but that should not have given them the ebay account password. Did the eBay rep offer any explanation as to how they got it?

A note to everyone: Because of stuff like this I do not have a "password list" on my computer and whenever I get to one of those log-ins where they ask "remember me on this computer" I say no. Whenever I see that little checkbox on a sign-in page that says "add to your password list" I make it isNOT checked. I write my various passwords down on a little slip of paper hidden away, and I always delete those confirmation emails you get when you set up an account that include my password.

JR

- Original Message - 

From: pj angel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:08
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!



True Story:

Yesterday, while I was looking at my ebigtownfilmposters seller site, checking on the VHS/DVDs I have running, to my astonished eyes a new auction suddenly appeared. It was for a $999 exercise bike. As I was trying to reacquire my wits, a second auction appears: a John Deere tractor!!A quick look around the house and backyard revealed neither item. (ha ha)

The seller fees were hundreds of dollars! (Blood rushing from my face. I'm feeling dizzy...)

Thinking I was seeing things, I logged out and logged back. Or tried to. My password would no longer work. (Am I gonna faint now?)

Without the aid of smelling salts I was able to sit for a moment and think out this deplorable situationand by doing so, able 

Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!

2005-09-27 Thread Vaughn K. Mann



Yes pj...I got one these emails, Ask A Seller A
Question and.almost fell for it, but something stopped
me and I did exactly that.went to my My EBAY and nothing there. Also
checked ebay and no bidder or seller by the the user name given.

The idea by JR however is a good one.
One problem was trying to forward it to spoof...didn't dare even
click on it to copy and use a separate email, thusjust
discardedVaughn

At 03:40 PM 9/27/2005 -0700, pj angel wrote:
If you get a question from a
potential buyer, don't reply to it. Instead, note the return
email address and compose a NEW message -- using a totally DIFFERENT
email address to send it with than the one which is registered to your
eBay account -- and answer the potential buyer's question that
way.
Not bad. But this is even better: 

If you get a ASK A SELLER A QUESTION from a potential buyer, don't
reply to it. Instead, go to your MY EBAY account and
if the question/email is legit, it will be listed in your message
center. Answer it there. 

pj

JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


PJ,



The only thing I can think of is this:



1) Once they had your email address (the one registered to your eBay
account and eBay ID) they somehow managed to re-direct eBay messages sent
to that address to themselves. I'm not sure how this is done, but I have
heard it is possible -- perhaps by using a little backdoor recently
applied to the structure of the internet in the interests of
national security which the hackers have found out how to
access?



2) If they could redirect messages sent by eBay to your address to
their own address, they could then go to eBay, click on the forgot
my password button and proceed to change your original password to
one of their own -- since ebay sends confirmation messages to the
registered account email address that must be received and clicked before
the password change can take place.



I can't imagine it being done any other way if you never typed your
password into a cleverly-designed Trojan sign-in page. 



If I'm right about how it was done, it means that the internet has
been so thoroughly compromised at this point -- by whomever for whatever
reason -- that doing business on it is now a much higher-risk proposition
than it has ever been. A truly dismal thought.



Here's one suggestion I'll toss out to the group and see what people
think:



If indeed all they needed to access PJ's eBay account was the email
address he had registered with that account, there might be a way to
still respond to a question sent to you via ask seller a
question and be safe. How about: If you get a question from a
potential buyer, don't reply to it. Instead, note the return
email address and compose a NEW message -- using a totally DIFFERENT
email address to send it with than the one which is registered to your
eBay account -- and answer the potential buyer's question that way.



-- JR



- Original Message - 

From: pj angel


To: JR ; pj angel ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 13:06

Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!

JR, all,



Scary is right. They were able to access my eBay account, take it over (change the PW), and list bogus auctions just by me answering the ASK THE SELLER A QUESTION: Will you combine multiple items for one postage cost? on my yahoo email account with the answer: Yes. I certainly will. Thank you for emailing.



The eBay rep could not offer any explanation. I don't think he could offer one. I still find it hard to believe. If there are any computer geniuses reading this that can confirm this is possible, please do so. 



I'm still wracking the brain: maybe there was something else I inadvertently did wrong.



pj

JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PJ,



This is one scary story! What bothers me is just how they got hold of the password to your eBay account? When you replied to a seller question, they got your email address, but that should not have given them the ebay account password. Did the eBay rep offer any explanation as to how they got it?



A note to everyone: Because of stuff like this I do not have a password list on my computer and whenever I get to one of those log-ins where they ask remember me on this computer I say no. Whenever I see that little checkbox on a sign-in page that says add to your password list I make it is NOT checked. I write my various passwords down on a little slip of paper hidden away, and I always delete those confirmation emails you get when you set up an account that include my password.



JR



- Original Message - 

From: pj angel 

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:08

Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help! Weird message from 'Ebay member'/ID THEFT!

True Story:



Yesterday, while I was looking at my ebigtownfilmposters seller site, checking on the VHS/DVDs I have running, to my astonished eyes a new auction suddenly appeared. It