Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Dario Casadei]

*Probably all well meant and a bit of a public stunt.

If you want to do something cool, make a you Tube video showing star 
wars style A going up in flames. It's a crappy movie anyways.


_The stamp could most likely be bleached out as well and now one would 
know that it was ever there._


Really really no reason to start circulating most hated SW bootlegs.

Please re consider this ... Hmmm? * idea.

Thanks,
dario.
*

Phil Edwards wrote:

Stamping something on the back does nothing.
 
Once linen backed, who will see it? And there are already plenty of 
faked linen backed one sheets

(and some vintage paper) out there already.
 
So Lucasfilm didn't know that the fan club was buying and selling 
bootlegs - in other words the official fan club was not getting their 
endless stocks of one sheets (and later REVENGE OF THE JEDI one 
sheets) through Lucasfilm channels?
 
Did "J. Seymour" have a connection with Lucasfilm? How were these 
posters dsitributed wholesale internationaly through major comics 
distributors?
 
Wait - we tried to have this conversation before on NSF and it all 
fell in a heap when no one could remember the history of US comics 
distributors from the late 1980s..
 
Phil
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Dave Rosen 
*To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

*Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 2:26 PM
*Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star
Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

I say burn 'em...
 
Dave
 


- Original Message -
*From:* David Lieberman 
*To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

*Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:23 PM
*Subject:* [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star
Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

 
Hello everyone.
 
I'm sure most of you are sick of hearing about these

bootlegs.but here is some information some of you may
appreciate.
 
We recently acquired 600 (2 original undisturbed rolls of 300)

STAR WARS Style A 77/21-0 "first printing" bootlegs from a
dealer who purchased them direct from the source (J.
Seymour) *back in 1989*. As soon as she realized she
was burned and that they weren't real, she put them in a
closet and tried to forget about them. She realized she should
have known better, that it was too good to be true. She sent
them to us in January 2009. They are mostly all in Near Mint
to Mint unused condition.
 
We are offering them *FREE* to anyone who requests one.
 
We have stamped the back of each one a few times with a 1/2"

x 2" permanent ink stamp that says: "*THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL
MOVIE POSTER*". This will make it extremely difficult for
anyone to mistake them for originals (or to possibly try and
pass them off as such) at some time in the future. If some
idiot tries to linen back one to hide the stamps, I would
expect (and hope) that the linen backer will be honest and do
the right thing and NOT do it.
 
Again, we are offering these *FREE* to anyone who requests

one. *One per person* *while supplies last*. All we ask is
that you pay $9.95 for shipping. We ship in a high quality
plastic tube by Priority mail. If you'd like one of these
"original bootlegs" please just email us and we will send you
a paypal invoice. *We will also include one for free to anyone
who orders a rolled poster from our store or to anyone who
wins one of our current ebay auctions *(you must request it
though when ordering and it must be a rolled poster that you win).
 
Over the years we have auctioned this bootleg (correctly

described as a bootleg) on ebay at no reserve 3 or 4 times
with prices ranging from $30.00 to $80.00.
 
These are THE SAME EXACT posters currently being sold by

others on ebay (wrongly described as originals) for over $100.00.
 
If any of you crazy skeptics think we are doing this to make

money.please do the math$2.00 for a tube, $6.00 for
postage, $1.00 for my employee labor for packaging time, $.85
to paypal.
 
_Why are we doing this?_
 
1. It would be silly to destroy them (we get requests for them

all the time). We did actually consider burning them and
filming the video for our website and youtube (wouldn't that
be neat!).
 
2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.just

as nice as the originalin every way.
 
3. It is a much more affordable alternative (*FREE!*) compared

to buy

Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Daniel Chia]

At 11:29 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote:

Burn the posters or the vile pond scum who sell them as originals?

You were not clear!

Bruce



Haha. That's hilarious ! My coffee almost went up my nose when I read that ! :)

Good one, Bruce :D

Hmm , as a huge fan of Star Wars, and a modest collector of movie 
posters, I am really happy that David Lieberman is doing this , and I 
have already requested for my copy of this bootleg. ( THANKS, DAVID !!! )


What am I going to do with it ? I'm going to put it up on my wall , 
of course , and if anyone asks me about it, I'll tell them it's a 
bootleg, and I'll tell them how to spot the bootlegs of this poster, 
so they will never get burned.


I love this iconic poster, and I will gladly enjoy it , even though I 
know it's a bootleg , because I could never afford and original one.


And since this bootleg will be up on my wall, that's at least one 
less out there for the unscrupulous sellers to sell off as an original. :)


Just my humble perspective on this controversial issue...

Thanks again for doing this, David :)

Daniel Chia



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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Bruce Hershenson]

That explains something that happened yesterday, that I thought was a very
odd coincidence. I received 17 e-mails from MoPo members, telling me they
could supply me with a linenbacked Star Wars poster for my upcoming
mini-major auction at the end of the month, if I didn't have one already!

Bruce

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM, David Lieberman  wrote:

>  I figured this would get under at least one or two peoples skin. So be
> it.
>
> We have received 17 requests for one in less than 2 hours.
>
> this *FREE* offer is only open to mopo and movie poster forum
> members..so if you think a collector who belongs to these forums who
> wants one would turn around and try and pass it off as original (getting it
> linen backed), you aren't paying the serious collectors in this hobby much
> of a compliment.
>
> againthey are clearly marked as fakes with several stamps on the back
> "THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTER".
>
> I could (but I won't) from memory name 4 other good dealers who have sold
> these in the past (correctly described).
>
>  "So Lucasfilm didn't know that the fan club was buying and selling
> bootlegs - in other words the official fan club was not getting their
> endless stocks of one sheets (and later REVENGE OF THE JEDI one sheets)
> through Lucasfilm channels?"
>
> yes
>
> "Did "J. Seymour" have a connection with Lucasfilm?"
>
> I can't say for certain, but I would think he had no connection to
> Lucasfilm.but anything is possible.
>
> "How were these posters dsitributed wholesale internationaly through major
> comics distributors?"
>
> I don't know.
>
>
>
> *David Lieberman*
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[MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[David Lieberman]

which means there are 17 mopo members who think you can't tell the  
difference between an original and a bootleg.;)


 
 
That explains something that happened yesterday, that I thought was a very  
odd coincidence. I received 17 e-mails from MoPo members, telling me they could 
 supply me with a linenbacked Star Wars poster for my upcoming mini-major 
auction  at the end of the month, if I didn't have one already!
 
Bruce









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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Bruce Hershenson]

Maybe they are hoping that it is I who "can't tell the difference between an
original and a bootleg"!

Bruce

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:16 AM, David Lieberman  wrote:

>
> which means there are 17 mopo members who think you can't tell the
> difference between an original and a bootleg.;)
>
> 
>
>  That explains something that happened yesterday, that I thought was a
> very odd coincidence. I received 17 e-mails from MoPo members, telling me
> they could supply me with a linenbacked Star Wars poster for my upcoming
> mini-major auction at the end of the month, if I didn't have one already!
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *David Lieberman*
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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 boo...

[Kenwick Cook]

Since I am the only MoPo member who had the guts to publicly admit  
requesting a copy for my friend and I, I thought I'd at least point out that I  
was NOT 
one of the 17 people to e-mail Bruce on this (LOL).
 
I also failed to mention that the repro my friend almost bought at  Hasting's 
looked like CRAP! Sure, Lucasfilms might have gotten a percentage for  the 
Hasting's repro, but let's face it... if the legendary bootleg fooled the  big 
auction houses, well, I'd rather have that one... hair-or-no-hair on Luke's  
belt.
 
I would also like to have one for reference... Someday, (when I can afford  
it)  I would like to replace my original, and having a boot for reference  
would ensure that I don't get burned.
 
After sleeping on it, I also couldn't help but remember my friend's bedroom  
walls are currently in the transition of either re-painting or wallpaper...  
gosh, wouldn't it be cool to have at least one wall completely plastered with  
these things? Probably neater than anything he could get at Sherwin  Williams.
 
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[MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[David Lieberman]

Dario said:
 
The stamp could most likely be bleached out as well  and now one would know 
that it was ever there.

you aren't really  giving the people on mopo or linen backers around the 
world any credit are you?  Expecting the worst from them. Are there dishonest 
linen backers/restorers out  there? Are there criminals on mopo that would take 
the time and money (a lot of  time and money.the 4 or 5 stamps we put on 
the 
back are not easy to  remove and linen backing is not cheap) for the ONE 
poster we are making  available to them? Highly unlikely.

Really really  no reason to start circulating most hated SW  bootlegs
 
Again, here are 7 reasons:
 
 
Why are we doing this? 
 
1. It would be silly to destroy them (we get requests for them  all the time 
- 31 so far since yesterday evening). We did actually  consider burning them 
and filming the video for our website and youtube  (wouldn't that be neat!).
 
2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.just as nice as the  
originalin every way.
 
3. It is a much more affordable alternative (FREE!)  compared to buying an 
original rolled one (over $1000.00) or compared to buying  one of these 
bootlegs 
on ebay for over $100.00.
 
4. It will help to educate collectors.
 
5. Like it or not, they are a part of movie poster collecting  history.
 
6. It could possibly help to diminish the market for them. Of course it  
won't stop all newbies from getting stung on ebay (no one can stop that I'm  
afraid).
 
7. Because we can. It is our little way of saying "Thank You" to the  movie 
poster collecting world!

 
 


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Re: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] help please with CASABLANCA poster

[Helmut Hamm]

For one, this was only four years after the end of World War II, so  
'designing' movie poster maybe didn't have top priority at the time.


Also, in 1949 was not the classic it is today, it was just 'another'  
movie. It took another three years for CASABLANCA to be shown in  
Germany (1952) and
the German poster only has a large portrait of Ingrid Bergman,  
Humphrey Bogart is NOT on the poster!


In 1952, Ingrid Bergman was already a big star with German audiences,  
while Bogart was still a rather unknown B-movie actor.


While I'm at it, let me take the chance to point out a bunch of  
posters I listed on eBay yesterday, both in the store and for auction.


No CASABLANCA, but several other french Film Noirs posters are included:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/filmposter.net

Thanks for your interest,

Helmut

http://www.filmposter.net


this is a first release poster? wow..i'm very unimpressed with the  
lack of any artistic creativity or color. i would have thought  
something this plain and blase' to be a re-re release poster.  hehe.


jeff



On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Wolfgang Jahn wrote:


Austrian 1st release from ca. 1949.
Best regards,
Wolfgang

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. März 2009 23:32
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Betreff: [MOPO] help please with CASABLANCA poster


Does anyone know what this is exactly?

original or re release? German, Austrian? something else?

http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/apics2008/ccc1.jpg


Thanks in advance!




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[MOPO] FA: ENDING SATURDAY / SAUCER-MEN HS + VINTAGE 1S ADDED - MACABRE+HOT ROD RUMBLE+

[Alan Adler]

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK!

BELOW ARE SOME HIGHLIGHT PIECES -

MANY ENDING SATURDAY MORNING ON EBAY!

http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts



ONE SHEETS UNLESS NOTED:



INVASION OF THE SAUCER-MEN - GORGEOUS HALF SHEET

MONDO FREUDO - BIZARRE SEXPLOITATION

SHOCK TREATMENT

ANNA KARENINA - R62 - QUITE NICE

TEN COMMANDMENTS 3S - GORGEOUS COLOR

REQUIEM FOR A HEAVYWEIGHT - CLASSIC

NOT TONITE, HENRY - CLASSIC EARLY ADULT TITLE

SOME LIKE IT COOL - CLASSIC EARLY ADULT VOLLEYBALL TITLE

MORO WITCH DOCTOR - EXPLOITATION

WHITE SLAVE SHIP - EXPLOITATION - GREAT ART

RISE AND FALL OF LEGS DIAMOND - BUDD BOETTICHER CRIME SLEEPER

EARLY BARDOT - FLAME AND THE FLESH

PLATINUM HIGH SCHOOL

KING SOLOMON'S MINES - COLORFUL R/62

THERE'S ALWAYS TOMORROW - SIRK HALF SHEET

TARNISHED ANGELS - SIRK INSERT

PRODIGAL - LANA TURNER INSERT

LIFE AND TIMES OF JUDGE ROY BEAN -  PAUL NEWMAN / JOHN HUSTON

THIS WOMAN IS DANGEROUS - CLASSIC JOAN CRAWFORD

DARK PAST - HOLDEN NOIR

RACKET - MITCHUM RKO NOIR

WOMAN OBSESSED - HAYWARD



ENDING NEXT SATURDAY:

ONE SHEETS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED:



MACABRE - WILLIAM CASTLE CLASSIC

HOT ROD RUMBLE - TOP DRAGSTRIP BAD GIRL GRAPHICS

COLOSSUS OF NEW YORK

VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA

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NAUGHTY NEW ORLEANS - STRIPTEASE AND JAZZ

NUDE IN A WHITE CAR -  BIZARRE ADULT

GORGO

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PLUS LOTS OF BUY IT NOWS!

FOR EXAMPLE -



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BOWERY BOYS TITLES

TRAPEZE

AND A TON OF CLASSIC INSERTS AND HALF SHEETS



CAPTAIN HORATIO HORNBLOWER - RAOUL WALSH/ GREG PECK

FRITZ THE CAT - RARE MINI-ONE SHEET ADVANCE

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TRACK OF THE CAT - MITCHUM NOIR WESTERN

VIKINGS



PLUS TONS OF STUFF LIKE COMICS, MONSTER MAGAZINES AND OLD TV STILLS!



BID WITH CONFIDENCE AND ENJOY!



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[MOPO] wanted

[Posteritati]

Hi,

We are looking for the following:

SPIRITED AWAY large Japanese 29x40 size B1 only

ANY NUMBER CAN WIN (Mélodie en sous-sol) Japanese poster

CAPTAIN BLOOD Argentine

FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLFMAN 1 Sheet

NOTORIOUS Swedish poster

LIEBESTRAUM (1991) - anything

THREE MONKEYS (2008) U.S, OR Turkish poster

JUST ANOTHER LOVE STORY (Kærlighed på film) 2007 - Anything

Thanks.

sam

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Re: [MOPO] help please with CASABLANCA poster

[kainbach]

I have a folded mint in my Austrian and German movie poster collection. I have 
it since a very long time. I can confirm that it is indeed 100% the Austrian 
original poster. 
Philipp


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 3:32 pm
Subject: [MOPO] help please with CASABLANCA poster









?

Does anyone know what this is exactly?

?

original or re release? German, Austrian? something else?

?

http://www..cinemasterpieces.com/apics2008/ccc1.jpg

?

?

Thanks in advance!





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Az 85260
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Only. | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery Open By Appt. Only.








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Re: [MOPO] Christies London Results ADVERTISE

[kainbach]

I was promised that Christies will send me the South Kensington catalog (I have 
virtually all of them and won many posters in their auctions)and I never 
received itthe chief person for this auction told me in two emails that she 
sent itbut nothingI will actually send her another email nowthey 
have not done any promotions in the US

Philipp


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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Christies London Results ADVERTISE


Hey Mopo:?
?
I've been complaining about this crap for literally decades, yet nothing ever 
changes. Whenever there's a major poster auction, this seems to be the thought 
process behind it:?
?
1. Let's not tell anyone about this auction. It's so unbelievably amazing that 
poster collectors will actually come to seek us out in order to bid. No need to 
publicize or bring in bidders (why should we spend a penny of our oversized 
consignment fees on marketing, when eBay doesn't bother???). We're making 6 
figures on this auction, why waste two minutes writing an email to large groups 
of potential bidders??
2. Where are the Women, Breakfast at Tiffany's and Forbidden Planet one sheets 
going to be in this auction? Let's screw with everyone and put an Invasion of 
the Saucermen 6sh up for bids - ha, just kidding, let's go with the one sheet 
again...?
3. Instead of getting rare posters that people actually want, let's just fill 
the auction with silent posters, classics, horror/sci-fi & James Bond... Oh 
hell, let's just go with nothing but Bond...?
4. We gotta have a couple newer posters for all our bidders under 60, but let's 
not go with anything unusual - just the Godfather, Taxi Driver, A Clockwork 
Orange and Dirty Harry one sheets. Maybe if we're feeling nice, we'll throw in 
a Pulp Fiction...?
5. We're American, so let's screw all our foreign bidders! Let's not mail the 
catalog until less than a week from the auction. That way, no one outside of 
the States will be able to bid unless they know of the auction in advance (see 
#1) and jump through additional hoops.?
6. Let's make it as impossible to bid as possible. Let's make all our bidders 
jump through even more hoops and have to pre-register or get 8 levels of 
approval to bid. We wouldn't want just anyone being allowed to bid...?
?
Of course, there are a couple exceptions, but those really prove the rule...?
?
Cheers,?
?
Bob?
?
- Original Message - From: "Evan Zweifel" ?
To: ?
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:06 PM?
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Christies London Results ADVERTISE?
?
Bummer dude!?
?
Actually, someone actually mentioned this last week -- more of an "oh by the 
way" than a "check this out!".?
?
Unfortunately there is no motivation for anyone to share this information 
(except for the auction house and the consigners), as more bidders will only 
result in higher prices!?
?
Better luck next time.?
?
Evan?
?
- Original Message -?
From: "Michael B" ?
To: mop...@listserv.american.edu?
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:09:58 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain?
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Christies London Results ADVERTISE?
?
nice to see the results. i wish i had known of the auction. i thought 
MOPOers were supposed to alert us of all the auctions.?
?
THE THIRD MAN insert sold for 690. seems a good price...AND IT IS ON MY 
"WANT LIST"  I would have have been had i known of the auction. Anyone have 
the insert for me??
?
i saw a few great values. if you don't advertise, you don't sell !?
?
michael?
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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Jeff Potokar]

bruce,

why is that the people who proliferate the bootleg business, STAY in  
business? you receive 17 emails of the type you did... and, yet, all  
he can continue to do is harp on his 7 pathetic reasons about WHY it  
is good that he put more fakes into the marketplace (let alone the  
fact he has made hundreds of dollars selling this crap on ebay, in  
the past).


it is maddening -- and also, for me at least, is a HUGE red flag:  
STAY AWAY from this one.


i was digging looking at many archive entries from NS4 and these  
"fake/bootleg/unauthorized re-strike" situations by DL have been  
talked about and exposed by many others, there, as well.


anything for a buck, it seems.

jeff




On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

That explains something that happened yesterday, that I thought was  
a very odd coincidence. I received 17 e-mails from MoPo members,  
telling me they could supply me with a linenbacked Star Wars poster  
for my upcoming mini-major auction at the end of the month, if I  
didn't have one already!


Bruce

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM, David Lieberman   
wrote:
I figured this would get under at least one or two peoples skin. So  
be it.


We have received 17 requests for one in less than 2 hours.

this FREE offer is only open to mopo and movie poster forum  
members..so if you think a collector who belongs to these  
forums who wants one would turn around and try and pass it off as  
original (getting it linen backed), you aren't paying the serious  
collectors in this hobby much of a compliment.


againthey are clearly marked as fakes with several stamps on  
the back "THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTER".


I could (but I won't) from memory name 4 other good dealers who  
have sold these in the past (correctly described).


"So Lucasfilm didn't know that the fan club was buying and selling  
bootlegs - in other words the official fan club was not getting  
their endless stocks of one sheets (and later REVENGE OF THE JEDI  
one sheets) through Lucasfilm channels?"


yes

"Did "J. Seymour" have a connection with Lucasfilm?"

I can't say for certain, but I would think he had no connection to  
Lucasfilm.but anything is possible.


"How were these posters dsitributed wholesale internationaly  
through major comics distributors?"


I don't know.



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Re: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] help please with CASABLANCA poster

[CK MacLeod]

If there had been a scene with a movie theater in THE THIRD MAN, that
CASABLANCA poster might have appeared in the b.g. - and would have
symbolized the social, cultural, and economic exhaustion of post-war Vienna.

The anti-Nazi theme of CASABLANCA would have made it a particularly
interesting export in that context.  No offense intended to anyone, but,
just as an historical observation, there was a joke frequently told among
Americans traveling in Austria and Germany in that era:  Q:  What's the
difference between Germans and Austrians?  A:  The Germans WERE Nazis.  (I
was born in Vienna, of American parents, and heard the joke from my parents
years later.)

The MPEA symbol suggests to me that the printing might either have been done
in the US or at least that the poster was designed under US tutelage.
  -Original Message-
  From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu]on Behalf Of Helmut
Hamm
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 07:04 AM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] help please with CASABLANCA poster


  For one, this was only four years after the end of World War II, so
'designing' movie poster maybe didn't have top priority at the time.


  Also, in 1949 was not the classic it is today, it was just 'another'
movie. It took another three years for CASABLANCA to be shown in Germany
(1952) and
  the German poster only has a large portrait of Ingrid Bergman, Humphrey
Bogart is NOT on the poster!


  In 1952, Ingrid Bergman was already a big star with German audiences,
while Bogart was still a rather unknown B-movie actor.


  While I'm at it, let me take the chance to point out a bunch of posters I
listed on eBay yesterday, both in the store and for auction.


  No CASABLANCA, but several other french Film Noirs posters are included:


  http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/filmposter.net


  Thanks for your interest,


  Helmut


  http://www.filmposter.net




this is a first release poster? wow..i'm very unimpressed with the lack
of any artistic creativity or color. i would have thought something this
plain and blase' to be a re-re release poster.  hehe.


jeff






On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Wolfgang Jahn wrote:


  Austrian 1st release from ca. 1949.
  Best regards,
  Wolfgang

  www.kinoart.net

  Von: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] Im Auftrag von
David Lieberman
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. März 2009 23:32
  An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Betreff: [MOPO] help please with CASABLANCA poster


Does anyone know what this is exactly?

original or re release? German, Austrian? something else?

http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/apics2008/ccc1.jpg


Thanks in advance!




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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Bruce Hershenson]

Why not put this on eBay as a permanent "buy it now" for say $14.99, with
the full explanation?

That would sure make it hard for the "bad guys" to sell any of theirs!

Bruce

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM, David Lieberman  wrote:

>  Dario said:
>
> *The stamp could most likely be bleached out as well and now one would
> know that it was ever there.
> *
> you aren't really giving the people on mopo or linen backers around the
> world any credit are you? Expecting the worst from them. Are there dishonest
> linen backers/restorers out there? Are there criminals on mopo that would
> take the time and money (a lot of time and money.the 4 or 5 stamps we
> put on the back are not easy to remove and linen backing is not cheap) for
> the ONE poster we are making available to them? Highly unlikely.
>
> *Really really no reason to start circulating most hated SW bootlegs*
>
> Again, here are 7 reasons:
>
>  *Why are we doing this?*
>
> 1. It would be silly to destroy them (*we get requests for them all the
> time - 31 so far since yesterday evening*). We did actually consider
> burning them and filming the video for our website and youtube (wouldn't
> that be neat!).
>
> 2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.just as nice as the
> originalin every way.
>
> 3. It is a much more affordable alternative (*FREE!*) compared to buying
> an original rolled one (over $1000.00) or compared to buying one of these
> bootlegs on ebay for over $100.00.
>
> 4. It will help to educate collectors.
>
> 5. Like it or not, they are a part of movie poster collecting history.
>
> 6. It could possibly help to diminish the market for them. Of course it
> won't stop all newbies from getting stung on ebay (no one can stop that I'm
> afraid).
>
> 7. Because we can. It is our little way of saying "Thank You" to the movie
> poster collecting world!
>
>
>
> *David Lieberman*
> CineMasterpieces.com  | 15721 N.
> Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260
> *Vintage Original Movie Posters* | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery Open By
> Appt. Only.
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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Dario Casadei]

*Dave,

No need to try to pin me against fellow collectors and Linen backers. Of 
course I don't think that.


The schematics are more intricate. Posters do travel, you know.

In the past I've sold a poster to collector A and a few years later the 
same poster have come back to me from collector B for linen backing only 
to to be sold on eBay to collector C.


Recently I had a local collector coming over with 6 posters for Linen 
backing, all Bootleg all bought on eBay. He was pretty upset after I 
told him that these are all fakes. To boot, I showed him the 
authentication facts from MPA.


Not sure if we ever see him again.

End of the day, you do what ever you like. I personally think the less 
bootlegs out there, the better.


Cheers,
dario.*




David Lieberman wrote:

Dario said:
 
*_The stamp could most likely be bleached out as well and now one 
would know that it was ever there.

_*
you aren't really giving the people on mopo or linen backers around 
the world any credit are you? Expecting the worst from them. Are there 
dishonest linen backers/restorers out there? Are there criminals on 
mopo that would take the time and money (a lot of time and 
money.the 4 or 5 stamps we put on the back are not easy to remove 
and linen backing is not cheap) for the ONE poster we are making 
available to them? Highly unlikely.


*_Really really no reason to start circulating most hated SW bootlegs_*
 
Again, here are 7 reasons:
 
_Why are we doing this?_
 
1. It would be silly to destroy them (*we get requests for them all 
the time - 31 so far since yesterday evening*). We did actually 
consider burning them and filming the video for our website and 
youtube (wouldn't that be neat!).
 
2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.just as nice 
as the originalin every way.
 
3. It is a much more affordable alternative (*FREE!*) compared to 
buying an original rolled one (over $1000.00) or compared to buying 
one of these bootlegs on ebay for over $100.00.
 
4. It will help to educate collectors.
 
5. Like it or not, they are a part of movie poster collecting history.
 
6. It could possibly help to diminish the market for them. Of course 
it won't stop all newbies from getting stung on ebay (no one can stop 
that I'm afraid).
 
7. Because we can. It is our little way of saying "Thank You" to the 
movie poster collecting world!
 
 


*David Lieberman**
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Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260
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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Jeff Potokar]

your example here, dario is perfect. make complete and total sense.  
but for any of those in the business of dealing in bootlegs, fakes or  
unauthorized re strikes--this will fall on deaf ears.  and  all in  
the name of "educating" new and old collectors alike.


yeah, right.

what a joke.


jeff





On Mar 13, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Dario Casadei wrote:


Dave,

No need to try to pin me against fellow collectors and Linen  
backers. Of course I don't think that.


The schematics are more intricate. Posters do travel, you know.

In the past I've sold a poster to collector A and a few years later  
the same poster have come back to me from collector B for linen  
backing only to to be sold on eBay to collector C.


Recently I had a local collector coming over with 6 posters for  
Linen backing, all Bootleg all bought on eBay. He was pretty upset  
after I told him that these are all fakes. To boot, I showed him  
the authentication facts from MPA.


Not sure if we ever see him again.

End of the day, you do what ever you like. I personally think the  
less bootlegs out there, the better.


Cheers,
dario.




David Lieberman wrote:


Dario said:

The stamp could most likely be bleached out as well and now one  
would know that it was ever there.
you aren't really giving the people on mopo or linen backers  
around the world any credit are you? Expecting the worst from  
them. Are there dishonest linen backers/restorers out there? Are  
there criminals on mopo that would take the time and money (a lot  
of time and money.the 4 or 5 stamps we put on the back are not  
easy to remove and linen backing is not cheap) for the ONE poster  
we are making available to them? Highly unlikely.


Really really no reason to start circulating most hated SW bootlegs

Again, here are 7 reasons:

Why are we doing this?

1. It would be silly to destroy them (we get requests for them all  
the time - 31 so far since yesterday evening). We did actually  
consider burning them and filming the video for our website and  
youtube (wouldn't that be neat!).


2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.just as  
nice as the originalin every way.


3. It is a much more affordable alternative (FREE!) compared to  
buying an original rolled one (over $1000.00) or compared to  
buying one of these bootlegs on ebay for over $100.00.


4. It will help to educate collectors.

5. Like it or not, they are a part of movie poster collecting  
history.


6. It could possibly help to diminish the market for them. Of  
course it won't stop all newbies from getting stung on ebay (no  
one can stop that I'm afraid).


7. Because we can. It is our little way of saying "Thank You" to  
the movie poster collecting world!




David Lieberman
CineMasterpieces.com | 15721 N. Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 --  
Scottsdale, Az 85260
Vintage Original Movie Posters | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery  
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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Richard Halegua Comic Art]

Brilliant idea


At 12:06 PM 3/13/2009, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Why not put this on eBay as a permanent "buy it now" for say $14.99, 
with the full explanation?


That would sure make it hard for the "bad guys" to sell any of theirs!

Bruce

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM, David Lieberman 
<dli...@aol.com> wrote:

Dario said:

The stamp could most likely be bleached out as well and now one 
would know that it was ever there.
you aren't really giving the people on mopo or linen backers around 
the world any credit are you? Expecting the worst from them. Are 
there dishonest linen backers/restorers out there? Are there 
criminals on mopo that would take the time and money (a lot of time 
and money.the 4 or 5 stamps we put on the back are not easy to 
remove and linen backing is not cheap) for the ONE poster we are 
making available to them? Highly unlikely.


Really really no reason to start circulating most hated SW bootlegs

Again, here are 7 reasons:

Why are we doing this?

1. It would be silly to destroy them (we get requests for them all 
the time - 31 so far since yesterday evening). We did actually 
consider burning them and filming the video for our website and 
youtube (wouldn't that be neat!).


2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.just as nice 
as the originalin every way.


3. It is a much more affordable alternative (FREE!) compared to 
buying an original rolled one (over $1000.00) or compared to buying 
one of these bootlegs on ebay for over $100.00.


4. It will help to educate collectors.

5. Like it or not, they are a part of movie poster collecting history.

6. It could possibly help to diminish the market for them. Of course 
it won't stop all newbies from getting stung on ebay (no one can 
stop that I'm afraid).


7. Because we can. It is our little way of saying "Thank You" to the 
movie poster collecting world!




David Lieberman
CineMasterpieces.com | 15721 N. 
Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260
Vintage Original Movie Posters | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery Open 
By Appt. Only.




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[MOPO] FA: Heritage Auctions: Niagara, Speed Crazy, Help, Criss Cross, Poseidon Adventure, more

[Carteron, Bruce - 1551]

There are 477 lots in this week's Heritage Auction. Another great selection of 
original movie posters, lobby cards, and stills. This auction closes Sunday, 
(March 15th) at 10pm CT.
http://movieposters.ha.com/?ic=task-movieposters

To view all 477 items please click here:
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/auction/catalog.php?SaleNo=59033&ic=homepage_catalog

Here are the links to some more highlights of this week's auction:

Niagara 1953 Marilyn Monroe One Sheet
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53319

Conquest of Space 1955 George Pal Science Fiction One Sheet
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53088

Speed Crazy 1959 Hot Rod One Sheet
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53392

Criss Cross (R-1958) Burt Lancaster Film Noir w/ Superior Art to the 1940s 
Original
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53096

Billy Jack - Rare 1971 International One Sheet w/ Fantastic art
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53039

Larceny Inc. Great 1942 Edward G. Robinson One Sheet
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53251

The Stranger 1946 Insert w/ Orson Welles, Edward G. Robinson & Loretta Young
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53412

Help! 1965 One Sheet with The Beatles
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53182

Monster on the Campus 1958 One Sheet - Reynold Brown art!
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53300

The Giant Behemoth 1959 Science Fiction One Sheet
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53151

>From Russia with Love Style B 1964 One Sheet
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53144

I Walked with a Zombie (R-1952) One Sheet and (R-1956) Lobby Card Set
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53220

The Poseidon Adventure 1972 Teaser Style 2 One Sheet
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53350

The Shawshank Redemption 1994 Bus Shelter Poster
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59033&Lot_No=53380

Plus lots more great items!

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[MOPO] FS: DADDY-O 1-sheet 1959 MINT

[Dave Rosen]

Outstanding Rock 'n' Roll Bad Girl cheesecake art on this pristine 1959 AIP 
1-sheet!

See all the details here:
http://posteropolis.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1478

$8 shipping to the US and Canada, including insurance.

Thanks!
Dave
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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Andrea Kanter]

Kind of like legalizing pot.  I'm in favor of it.   both.

Andrea

On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Why not put this on eBay as a permanent "buy it now" for say $14.99,  
with the full explanation?


That would sure make it hard for the "bad guys" to sell any of theirs!

Bruce

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM, David Lieberman   
wrote:

Dario said:

The stamp could most likely be bleached out as well and now one  
would know that it was ever there.
you aren't really giving the people on mopo or linen backers around  
the world any credit are you? Expecting the worst from them. Are  
there dishonest linen backers/restorers out there? Are there  
criminals on mopo that would take the time and money (a lot of time  
and money.the 4 or 5 stamps we put on the back are not easy to  
remove and linen backing is not cheap) for the ONE poster we are  
making available to them? Highly unlikely.


Really really no reason to start circulating most hated SW bootlegs

Again, here are 7 reasons:

Why are we doing this?

1. It would be silly to destroy them (we get requests for them all  
the time - 31 so far since yesterday evening). We did actually  
consider burning them and filming the video for our website and  
youtube (wouldn't that be neat!).


2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.just as nice  
as the originalin every way.


3. It is a much more affordable alternative (FREE!) compared to  
buying an original rolled one (over $1000.00) or compared to buying  
one of these bootlegs on ebay for over $100.00.


4. It will help to educate collectors.

5. Like it or not, they are a part of movie poster collecting history.

6. It could possibly help to diminish the market for them. Of course  
it won't stop all newbies from getting stung on ebay (no one can  
stop that I'm afraid).


7. Because we can. It is our little way of saying "Thank You" to the  
movie poster collecting world!




David Lieberman
CineMasterpieces.com | 15721 N. Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 --  
Scottsdale, Az 85260
Vintage Original Movie Posters | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery Open  
By Appt. Only.



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[MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[David Lieberman]

 
 

wellas usualyou can't please everybody.
 
over 50 people now have made the request..so its pretty obvious  the 
majority of experienced collectors out there do not have any problems  owning a 
clearly marked bootleg (especially when its FREE!!)
 
it's just sad that one of the louder inexperienced ones can't  see how this 
benefits collectors.
 
oh well!!
 
and to think we are doing this for the money is just  preposterous.

an analogy:
 

A seemingly trustworthy guy buys a gun from a gun storehe said he  needed 
it for protection. The gun store owner ran a background check and  he cleared 
it. The gun buyer then goes out and kills someone. Is this the  gun store 
owners fault? Do you blame them?
 

A seemingly trustworthy mopo member gets one of the bootlegs free  from 
CineMasterpieces..the mopo member said they wanted it to educate  
themselves. 
It is clearly marked as a bootleg and there is no way it can  be mistaken for a 
real one in its current conditionhe then goes  through extraordinary 
lengths to erase/bleach the stamps out from the back  of the poster and/or gets 
it 
linen backed from a dishonest linen backer  and sells it to another collector 
for a nice profit. He rips him off!! Is  this the fault of CineMasterpieces?? 
Do you blame them?
 
 
"Why not put this on eBay as a permanent "buy it now" for say $14.99,  with 
the full explanation?"
 
That was actually our first plan!! but then we decided it would be  fun to 
give them away for FREE to the good people of mopo and  movieposter forum.
 
I'll probably list them on ebay eventually...in the reproductions  section 
for $10.00 or sobut only after everyone here stops asking us  for a free 
one!!
 








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Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az  85260
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Appt. Only.
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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Judith Weaver]

Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's going on.  
Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address list (including MOPO 
although not Michael individually) but we're working on trying to resolve the 
problem.  I have NOT--repeat NOT--sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO 
list.  Thanks, Judith


Judith Weaver
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321-514-4861
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael B 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver


  i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not-MOPO

  what's the deal?

  i havent opened any of it.



  michael


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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Posteritati]

judith and anyone else who's ever had a similar problem - one piece  
of advice - get a mac - never happens - ever


sam

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On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:

Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's  
going on.  Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address  
list (including MOPO although not Michael individually) but we're  
working on trying to resolve the problem.  I have NOT--repeat NOT-- 
sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO list.  Thanks, Judith



Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
- Original Message -
From: Michael B
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver

i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not-MOPO

what's the deal?

i havent opened any of it.



michael

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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Andrea Kanter]

I'll second that.
Andrea

On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Posteritati wrote:

judith and anyone else who's ever had a similar problem - one piece  
of advice - get a mac - never happens - ever


sam

Posteritati
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New York, NY  10013
212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102
http://www.posteritati.com/




On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:

Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's  
going on.  Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address  
list (including MOPO although not Michael individually) but we're  
working on trying to resolve the problem.  I have NOT--repeat NOT-- 
sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO list.  Thanks, Judith



Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
- Original Message -
From: Michael B
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver

i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not- 
MOPO


what's the deal?

i havent opened any of it.



michael

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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Tom Kirby]

Or Linux.  No need for Mac people to get all smug again ;-)

Tom

Posteritati wrote:
judith and anyone else who's ever had a similar problem -
one piece of advice - get a mac - never happens - ever
  
  
  sam
  
   
  Posteritati
  239 Centre Street
  New York, NY  10013
  212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102
  http://www.posteritati.com/
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:
  
  
Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I
still am not  sure what's going on.  Apparently someone haa been able
to hijack my address list (including MOPO although not Michael
individually) but we're working on trying to resolve the problem.  I
have NOT--repeat NOT--sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO
list.  Thanks, Judith
 
 
Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861

  -
Original Message -
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver
  
  
i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not-MOPO
  
what's the deal?
  
i havent opened any of it.
  
  
  
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[MOPO] FA: Heritage 2009 March Signature Movie Poster Auction - some more featured items!

[Carteron, Bruce - 1551]

Here are some more highlights from Heritage's 2009 March Signature Vintage 
Movie Poster Auction

To view all 2,116 Lots please click on the link below:

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/auction/catalog.php?SaleNo=7003&ic=homepage_catalog

Highlights:

The Adventures of Robin Hood (Warner Brothers, 1938) Errol Flynn One Sheet

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=85817

World Without End (Allied Artists, 1956) Rare Style B Six Sheet with pinup art 
by Vargas

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=85958

Godzilla (Toho, 1954) Original Japanese B2 Poster

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=85946

Mickey's Nightmare (United Artists, 1932) Scarce Mickey Mouse One Sheet

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=85991

Hollywood (Paramount, 1923) Only known example Six Sheet - outstanding art

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86130

The Raven (Universal, 1935) Very Rare Original Karloff and Lugosi Window Card

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86527

Dr. No 1962 British Quad

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86077

The Thin Man (MGM, 1934) Powell and Loy Title Card

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86295

Jezebel (Warner Brothers, 1938) Italian 2 - Folio w/ Martinati art

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86184

Bobby Jones in How I Play Golf (Warner Brothers, 1931) Mint Set of Lobby Cards

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86414

Ex-Lady (Warner Brothers, 1933) Stunning Bette Davis Window Card

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86181

The Canary Murder Case (Paramount, 1929) Gorgeous Louise Brooks Window Card

 http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86159

The Invisible Ray (Universal, 1935) Greay Pre-War Australian Daybill w/ Karloff 
& Lugosi

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86529

A Dog's Life (First National, 1918) Wonderful Charlie Chaplin Three Sheet

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=86111

King Kong (RKO, 1933) 10.75" X 13.5" Awesome Still by Ernest A. Bachrach

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&Lot_No=85146

Plus thousands more! Please go to our website to see it all!



























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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Jeff Potokar]

thats not true sam.. its not a pc or mac issue... it has to do with  
someone hijacking an email account-- getting into the server, NOT  
ones computer.


some one did it to my hotmail account, one time, and i'm also a mac  
user  (always have been, too).




jeff





On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Posteritati wrote:

judith and anyone else who's ever had a similar problem - one piece  
of advice - get a mac - never happens - ever


sam

Posteritati
239 Centre Street
New York, NY  10013
212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102
http://www.posteritati.com/




On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:

Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's  
going on.  Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address  
list (including MOPO although not Michael individually) but we're  
working on trying to resolve the problem.  I have NOT--repeat NOT-- 
sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO list.  Thanks, Judith



Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
- Original Message -
From: Michael B
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver

i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not- 
MOPO


what's the deal?

i havent opened any of it.



michael

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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Posteritati]

jeff,

oops. if that's correct, i stand corrected. thanx!

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On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Jeff Potokar wrote:

thats not true sam.. its not a pc or mac issue... it has to do with  
someone hijacking an email account-- getting into the server, NOT  
ones computer.


some one did it to my hotmail account, one time, and i'm also a mac  
user  (always have been, too).




jeff





On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Posteritati wrote:

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piece of advice - get a mac - never happens - ever


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On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:

Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's  
going on.  Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address  
list (including MOPO although not Michael individually) but we're  
working on trying to resolve the problem.  I have NOT--repeat  
NOT--sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO list.  Thanks,  
Judith



Judith Weaver
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Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
- Original Message -
From: Michael B
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver

i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not- 
MOPO


what's the deal?

i havent opened any of it.



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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Richard Evans]

Well, get a mac anyway.

On 13 Mar 2009, at 22:19, Jeff Potokar wrote:

thats not true sam.. its not a pc or mac issue... it has to do with  
someone hijacking an email account-- getting into the server, NOT  
ones computer.


some one did it to my hotmail account, one time, and i'm also a mac  
user  (always have been, too).




jeff





On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Posteritati wrote:

judith and anyone else who's ever had a similar problem - one piece  
of advice - get a mac - never happens - ever


sam

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On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:

Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's  
going on.  Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address  
list (including MOPO although not Michael individually) but we're  
working on trying to resolve the problem.  I have NOT--repeat NOT-- 
sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO list.  Thanks, Judith



Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
- Original Message -
From: Michael B
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver

i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not- 
MOPO


what's the deal?

i havent opened any of it.



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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 boo...

[Kenwick Cook]

 
In a message dated 3/13/2009 4:07:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
eccen...@mac.com writes:

Kind of  like legalizing pot.  I'm in favor of it.   both.  


Andrea



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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 boo...

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A M E N


At 03:52 PM 3/13/2009, Kenwick Cook wrote:
In a message dated 3/13/2009 4:07:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
eccen...@mac.com writes:

Kind of like legalizing pot.  I'm in favor of it.   both.

Andrea

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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 boo...

[Ari Richards]

I also asked for  a Copy, I have handled very few SW posters (I actually don't 
like to) but anyway a fake for comparison is a good idea for anyone (I think) 
who deals in posters.
Dave also gave me a repro double sided Spiderman last year, again, it wont be 
for sale, its just handy to have fakes to compare, especially for posters you 
dont often deal with.
Ari


--- On Sat, 14/3/09, Kenwick Cook  wrote:

From: Kenwick Cook 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 
77/21-0 boo...
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Received: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 12:34 AM



 

Since I am the only MoPo member who had the guts to publicly admit 
requesting a copy for my friend and I, I thought I'd at least point out that I 
was NOT one of the 17 people to e-mail Bruce on this (LOL).
 
I also failed to mention that the repro my friend almost bought at 
Hasting's looked like CRAP! Sure, Lucasfilms might have gotten a percentage for 
the Hasting's repro, but let's face it... if the legendary bootleg fooled the 
big auction houses, well, I'd rather have that one... hair-or-no-hair on Luke's 
belt.
 
I would also like to have one for reference... Someday, (when I can afford 
it)  I would like to replace my original, and having a boot for reference 
would ensure that I don't get burned.
 
After sleeping on it, I also couldn't help but remember my friend's bedroom 
walls are currently in the transition of either re-painting or wallpaper... 
gosh, wouldn't it be cool to have at least one wall completely plastered with 
these things? Probably neater than anything he could get at Sherwin 
Williams.
 
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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 boo...

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i'll third that (or do i mean 4th?). can't remember...

sam

On Mar 13, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:


A M E N


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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[Robert D. Brooks]

> Well, get a mac anyway.

Ahh, but there's the rub...  If people actually used Mac's on any widespread 
basis - then Mac virii would be very common.  The reason why there's basically 
no Mac viruses out there (other than the fact that MS is both evil and stupid) 
- is exactly the same reason why there's no Atari DOS viruses spreading their 
way across the internet as we speak...

Cheers,

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Evans 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] judith weaver


  Well, get a mac anyway.


  On 13 Mar 2009, at 22:19, Jeff Potokar wrote:


thats not true sam.. its not a pc or mac issue... it has to do with someone 
hijacking an email account-- getting into the server, NOT ones computer.


some one did it to my hotmail account, one time, and i'm also a mac user  
(always have been, too).






jeff










On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Posteritati wrote:


  judith and anyone else who's ever had a similar problem - one piece of 
advice - get a mac - never happens - ever


  sam


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  On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:


Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's going 
on.  Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address list (including MOPO 
although not Michael individually) but we're working on trying to resolve the 
problem.  I have NOT--repeat NOT--sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO 
list.  Thanks, Judith


Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael B
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver


  i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not-MOPO

  what's the deal?

  i havent opened any of it.



  michael


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Re: [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A 77/21-0 bootleg

[Roger Kim]

Bruce,

Please put me down on the list as number 18. I too have a linenbacked  
Star Wars poster that would be great for your mini-major auction.


-Roger




On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

That explains something that happened yesterday, that I thought was  
a very odd coincidence. I received 17 e-mails from MoPo members,  
telling me they could supply me with a linenbacked Star Wars poster  
for my upcoming mini-major auction at the end of the month, if I  
didn't have one already!


Bruce

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM, David Lieberman   
wrote:
I figured this would get under at least one or two peoples skin. So  
be it.


We have received 17 requests for one in less than 2 hours.

this FREE offer is only open to mopo and movie poster forum  
members..so if you think a collector who belongs to these  
forums who wants one would turn around and try and pass it off as  
original (getting it linen backed), you aren't paying the serious  
collectors in this hobby much of a compliment.


againthey are clearly marked as fakes with several stamps on  
the back "THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTER".


I could (but I won't) from memory name 4 other good dealers who  
have sold these in the past (correctly described).


"So Lucasfilm didn't know that the fan club was buying and selling  
bootlegs - in other words the official fan club was not getting  
their endless stocks of one sheets (and later REVENGE OF THE JEDI  
one sheets) through Lucasfilm channels?"


yes

"Did "J. Seymour" have a connection with Lucasfilm?"

I can't say for certain, but I would think he had no connection to  
Lucasfilm.but anything is possible.


"How were these posters dsitributed wholesale internationaly  
through major comics distributors?"


I don't know.



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Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

[McDaniel Kirby]

I got slammed by a respected member of this list - I won't say who -  
when some  years ago I advised

everyone on this list to get a Mac.  After having thought about it
carefully, I now say: GET A MAC!

You will love it.  Remember you can run Windows on a mac if you HAVE to.

And the rest is all just effortless computing.

In style.

K.

On Mar 13, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Robert D. Brooks wrote:


> Well, get a mac anyway.

Ahh, but there's the rub...  If people actually used Mac's on any  
widespread basis - then Mac virii would be very common.  The reason  
why there's basically no Mac viruses out there (other than the fact  
that MS is both evil and stupid) - is exactly the same reason why  
there's no Atari DOS viruses spreading their way across the internet  
as we speak...


Cheers,

Bob
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From: Richard Evans
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] judith weaver

Well, get a mac anyway.

On 13 Mar 2009, at 22:19, Jeff Potokar wrote:

thats not true sam.. its not a pc or mac issue... it has to do with  
someone hijacking an email account-- getting into the server, NOT  
ones computer.


some one did it to my hotmail account, one time, and i'm also a mac  
user  (always have been, too).




jeff





On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Posteritati wrote:

judith and anyone else who's ever had a similar problem - one  
piece of advice - get a mac - never happens - ever


sam

Posteritati
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New York, NY  10013
212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102
http://www.posteritati.com/




On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:

Don't open any of it; delete it all.  I still am not  sure what's  
going on.  Apparently someone haa been able to hijack my address  
list (including MOPO although not Michael individually) but we're  
working on trying to resolve the problem.  I have NOT--repeat  
NOT--sent individual emails to anyone on the MOPO list.  Thanks,  
Judith



Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
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From: Michael B
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: [MOPO] judith weaver

i am getting tons of emails from judith weaver privately,,not- 
MOPO


what's the deal?

i havent opened any of it.



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