Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

[P Molitor]

This exchange made finally made me dig out my set of LCs that were given to me 
by the local NSS rep at the time of the movies release back in '79 - about as 
impeccable a provenance as you can get - and they are all spot on with Sean's 
originals.  FWIW.
 
The Harry Dean Stanton double arm seems like such a Photoshop type of thing I 
wonder if that sort of error was even possible back in the archaic days of 
photo-reproduction?
 
--Peter


--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Sean Linkenback  wrote:


From: Sean Linkenback 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:16 PM








Jeff,
 
I would certainly love to hold your card in my hands (or at least see a scan) 
and compare it to the two sets that I have here.
Without doing so (and heck maybe even with), I can’t explain it and barely want 
to try.
If it is only one card, perhaps it has a miscut, I don’t know what theater your 
friend managed but it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard of a theater that 
got ahold of some repro items (usually second-hand theaters or for revivals of 
films).  Maybe your friend got it from doing a trade and ended up with a fake 
(we certainly know one of the favorite tactics of the bootleggers is to 
continually trade for items).  I do believe that these fake sets have been 
around for a lot longer than we have typically been thinking about them.  
Certainly for at least a dozen years, and if they were making fake Star Wars 
posters in the 70s, why not fake lobbies in the 80s?  
 
It definitely is hard to say, but I feel certain that if you were able to see 
the two sets that I have here you would be convinced that the one is a bootleg 
and it could certainly help you feel a lot better (or maybe worse) about yours.
 
Could there be multiple sets/printings with each one having slight variations 
on cards?  I guess so – anything is possible.
But, how/why would the studio exact such horrible quality control on another 
printing?   Every single card in this set is different.  Every card is darker 
then it should be with a lot of fine detail lost, the photo quality is not 
crisp and sharp like it should be, two of the cards have some very light 
streaking across them.  These are not things that are consistent with studio 
release cards.  The studio already had the originals, why are they making a 
second print that gives Harry Dean Stanton a second arm?  I just can’t believe 
the set I am looking at here in my right hand was p rod uced by the same people 
that made the set in my left hand, or that they even made such shoddy looking 
originals that these fakes are based on.
 
 
 
 




From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Walton, 
Jeffrey
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:45 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed
 
Sean
 
I’m curious on how exactly you came to this conclusion based on the two set 
comparison?
 
Reason I’m questioning is that my Alien lobby card set was the second or third 
acquirement into my collection.  It was given to me by a friend who managed a 
theater.  He had about 10 sets he saved but I only took the Alien set since 
this was in my genre and it was the first “R” rated film that I saw –ahh the 
memories.  Most of the cards are very clean with the exception of two that have 
multiple pin holes – he said he only used to hang the best cards of a set.  My 
set was acquired around 1982/83.  My #8 card is how you described “FAKE”   And 
only this one stands out as being different.  I highly doubt that this is a 
repro set, given the source and the timeframe…and that it is only one card that 
differs.  But if one card is different in my set I’m sure there are sets out 
there that differ as well by one or two cards.
 
Though I do not classify myself as an expert, I have been collecting for more 
than 20 years.
 




From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Sean 
Linkenback
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:48 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed
 
I recently had a chance to do a nice side-by-side comparison of a real Alien 
(1979) Lobby Card set and a fake Alien lobby card set.  Hopefully this guide 
will help anyone looking for a set to stay away from the repros and be able to 
spot them even in a small eBay photo (there are at least five different sellers 
on eBay right now offering the fake sets).

Every single one of the cards in the fake set is quite darker than the original 
set, and every single one of the cards in the fake set has also had some of the 
photo details trimmed off on the left/right sides when compared to the 
originals.  On a few of the cards, the images have been enlarged to fit the 
cards, but on a few some photoshopping was done and one has quite a comical 
affect.  All of the cards have differences from the originals, but I am going 
to focus on 5 "easy" tells to help you out.

Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

[Phil Edwards]

Sean is definitely right about fake lobby cards being around longer than most 
people realise, and as I have said before (either here or NSF or both) the 
longer fakes (posters and lobby cards) are in the collecting food chain, the 
tougher it is going to be to distinguish whole sets of fakes and more pointedly 
sets made up from fakes and the real thing.

Specifically on the card #8, there is a very different overal hue to the 
original from the copy, although even if these were high resolution scans done 
on a flatbead it might be hard to tell. 

The fake also apears to have a horizontal streaking on right side?

Sean, is there any noticeable difference in the paper stock between the two 
sets?

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Linkenback 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed


  Jeff,

   

  I would certainly love to hold your card in my hands (or at least see a scan) 
and compare it to the two sets that I have here.

  Without doing so (and heck maybe even with), I can't explain it and barely 
want to try.

  If it is only one card, perhaps it has a miscut, I don't know what theater 
your friend managed but it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of a theater 
that got ahold of some repro items (usually second-hand theaters or for 
revivals of films).  Maybe your friend got it from doing a trade and ended up 
with a fake (we certainly know one of the favorite tactics of the bootleggers 
is to continually trade for items).  I do believe that these fake sets have 
been around for a lot longer than we have typically been thinking about them.  
Certainly for at least a dozen years, and if they were making fake Star Wars 
posters in the 70s, why not fake lobbies in the 80s?  

   

  It definitely is hard to say, but I feel certain that if you were able to see 
the two sets that I have here you would be convinced that the one is a bootleg 
and it could certainly help you feel a lot better (or maybe worse) about yours.

   

  Could there be multiple sets/printings with each one having slight variations 
on cards?  I guess so - anything is possible.

  But, how/why would the studio exact such horrible quality control on another 
printing?   Every single card in this set is different.  Every card is darker 
then it should be with a lot of fine detail lost, the photo quality is not 
crisp and sharp like it should be, two of the cards have some very light 
streaking across them.  These are not things that are consistent with studio 
release cards.  The studio already had the originals, why are they making a 
second print that gives Harry Dean Stanton a second arm?  I just can't believe 
the set I am looking at here in my right hand was produced by the same people 
that made the set in my left hand, or that they even made such shoddy looking 
originals that these fakes are based on.

   

   

   

   


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  From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Walton, 
Jeffrey
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:45 AM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

   

  Sean

   

  I'm curious on how exactly you came to this conclusion based on the two set 
comparison?

   

  Reason I'm questioning is that my Alien lobby card set was the second or 
third acquirement into my collection.  It was given to me by a friend who 
managed a theater.  He had about 10 sets he saved but I only took the Alien set 
since this was in my genre and it was the first "R" rated film that I saw -ahh 
the memories.  Most of the cards are very clean with the exception of two that 
have multiple pin holes - he said he only used to hang the best cards of a set. 
 My set was acquired around 1982/83.  My #8 card is how you described "FAKE"   
And only this one stands out as being different.  I highly doubt that this is a 
repro set, given the source and the timeframe.and that it is only one card that 
differs.  But if one card is different in my set I'm sure there are sets out 
there that differ as well by one or two cards.

   

  Though I do not classify myself as an expert, I have been collecting for more 
than 20 years.

   


--

  From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Sean 
Linkenback
  Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:48 AM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

   

  I recently had a chance to do a nice side-by-side comparison of a real Alien 
(1979) Lobby Card set and a fake Alien lobby card set.  Hopefully this guide 
will help anyone looking for a set to stay away from the repros and be able to 
spot them even in a small eBay photo (there are at least five different sellers 
on eBay right now offering the fake sets).

  Every s

Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

[Sean Linkenback]

Jeff,

 

I would certainly love to hold your card in my hands (or at least see a
scan) and compare it to the two sets that I have here.

Without doing so (and heck maybe even with), I can't explain it and barely
want to try.

If it is only one card, perhaps it has a miscut, I don't know what theater
your friend managed but it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of a
theater that got ahold of some repro items (usually second-hand theaters or
for revivals of films).  Maybe your friend got it from doing a trade and
ended up with a fake (we certainly know one of the favorite tactics of the
bootleggers is to continually trade for items).  I do believe that these
fake sets have been around for a lot longer than we have typically been
thinking about them.  Certainly for at least a dozen years, and if they were
making fake Star Wars posters in the 70s, why not fake lobbies in the 80s?  

 

It definitely is hard to say, but I feel certain that if you were able to
see the two sets that I have here you would be convinced that the one is a
bootleg and it could certainly help you feel a lot better (or maybe worse)
about yours.

 

Could there be multiple sets/printings with each one having slight
variations on cards?  I guess so - anything is possible.

But, how/why would the studio exact such horrible quality control on another
printing?   Every single card in this set is different.  Every card is
darker then it should be with a lot of fine detail lost, the photo quality
is not crisp and sharp like it should be, two of the cards have some very
light streaking across them.  These are not things that are consistent with
studio release cards.  The studio already had the originals, why are they
making a second print that gives Harry Dean Stanton a second arm?  I just
can't believe the set I am looking at here in my right hand was produced by
the same people that made the set in my left hand, or that they even made
such shoddy looking originals that these fakes are based on.

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Walton,
Jeffrey
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:45 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

 

Sean

 

I'm curious on how exactly you came to this conclusion based on the two set
comparison?

 

Reason I'm questioning is that my Alien lobby card set was the second or
third acquirement into my collection.  It was given to me by a friend who
managed a theater.  He had about 10 sets he saved but I only took the Alien
set since this was in my genre and it was the first "R" rated film that I
saw -ahh the memories.  Most of the cards are very clean with the exception
of two that have multiple pin holes - he said he only used to hang the best
cards of a set.  My set was acquired around 1982/83.  My #8 card is how you
described "FAKE"   And only this one stands out as being different.  I
highly doubt that this is a repro set, given the source and the
timeframe.and that it is only one card that differs.  But if one card is
different in my set I'm sure there are sets out there that differ as well by
one or two cards.

 

Though I do not classify myself as an expert, I have been collecting for
more than 20 years.

 

  _  

From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Sean
Linkenback
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:48 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

 

I recently had a chance to do a nice side-by-side comparison of a real Alien
(1979) Lobby Card set and a fake Alien lobby card set.  Hopefully this guide
will help anyone looking for a set to stay away from the repros and be able
to spot them even in a small eBay photo (there are at least five different
sellers on eBay right now offering the fake sets).

Every single one of the cards in the fake set is quite darker than the
original set, and every single one of the cards in the fake set has also had
some of the photo details trimmed off on the left/right sides when compared
to the originals.  On a few of the cards, the images have been enlarged to
fit the cards, but on a few some photoshopping was done and one has quite a
comical affect.  All of the cards have differences from the originals, but I
am going to focus on 5 "easy" tells to help you out.

Lobby Card #7 - Crew Portrait
I start with this one, as it is one of the easiest ways to spot a fake.
Basically if Harry Dean Stanton has an extra right arm floating next to him,
you have a fake card.  (there are also some photoshop effects on the right
side).  The last few centimeters of the image on the left side of the card
were duplicated to extend the image to the borders, and in doing so they
made a duplicate image of part of Harry Dean Stanton's arm/jacket (and then
darkened it so it is harder to tell).

 
Card

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Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Franc]

Frankly I didn’t even realize they were giving 5 free insertions to
begin with, so I certainly don’t miss it. FRANC


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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:45 PM
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I have to agree, don't like it? don't USE it.
I rarely use ebay anymore, don't look unless someone sends me a link..
Who cares? its not a given right to have ebay. Or have a good ebay, or
whatever. like it? USE IT, Don't like it? DON'T USE IT. I don't like
Macdonalds, so I don't go there

It's simple,
Ari

--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Jeff Potokar  wrote:

> From: Jeff Potokar 
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Received: Wednesday, 17 June, 2009, 5:03 AM
> 
> when this notice from ebay first was sent out, it clearly indicated 
> what guidelines needed to be followed in order to get the 5 free 
> insertions.. it isnt an odd restriction, simply one they have
> put into place. im sure most were aware (like i was), the
> first time the mailer went out, as it was spelled out
> clearly. just because it appears you didnt read carefully,
> doesnt mean others wont.
> and what's with your "WARNING WARNING
> EBAY" subject line?  .. one would have thought they
> were behind some terrorist plot...LOL..
> calm down, mike.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Michael B
> wrote:
> today, ebay started a new policy of giving
> 5 free insertions per 30 day cycle, or so.  (see there message board 
> posting of today.)
>  
>  HOWEVER..
>  
>  to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.  I called ebay,
> and they pointed to the language of their information
> page:  "...when you use the eBay Sell Your Item or
> Simple listing form"
>  
>  i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this
> odd restriction.
>  
>  michael
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Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Joseph Bonelli]

Seems to me that EBay has been giving not-so-"free insertions" to its sellers 
for some many ages now!  
 
(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
 
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--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Michael B  wrote:


From: Michael B 
Subject: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 12:57 PM



today, ebay started a new policy of giving 5 free insertions per 30 day cycle, 
or so.  (see there message board posting of today.)

HOWEVER..

to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.  I called ebay, and they pointed to 
the language of their information page:  "...when you use the eBay Sell Your 
Item or Simple listing form"

i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this odd restriction.

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Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Ari Richards]

I have to agree, don't like it? don't USE it.
I rarely use ebay anymore, don't look unless someone sends me a link..
Who cares? its not a given right to have ebay. Or have a good ebay, or 
whatever. like it? USE IT, Don't like it? DON'T USE IT.
I don't like Macdonalds, so I don't go there

It's simple,
Ari

--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Jeff Potokar  wrote:

> From: Jeff Potokar 
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Received: Wednesday, 17 June, 2009, 5:03 AM
> 
> when this notice from ebay first was sent out, it clearly
> indicated what guidelines needed to be followed in order to
> get the 5 free insertions..
> it isnt an odd restriction, simply one they have
> put into place. im sure most were aware (like i was), the
> first time the mailer went out, as it was spelled out
> clearly. just because it appears you didnt read carefully,
> doesnt mean others wont.
> and what's with your "WARNING WARNING
> EBAY" subject line?  .. one would have thought they
> were behind some terrorist plot...LOL..
> calm down, mike.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Michael B
> wrote:
> today, ebay started a new policy of giving
> 5 free insertions per 30 day cycle, or so.  (see there
> message board posting of today.)
>  
>  HOWEVER..
>  
>  to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.  I called ebay,
> and they pointed to the language of their information
> page:  "...when you use the eBay Sell Your Item or
> Simple listing form"
>  
>  i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this
> odd restriction.
>  
>  michael 
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Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Jeff Potokar]

when this notice from ebay first was sent out, it clearly indicated  
what guidelines needed to be followed in order to get the 5 free  
insertions..


it isnt an odd restriction, simply one they have put into place. im  
sure most were aware (like i was), the first time the mailer went  
out, as it was spelled out clearly. just because it appears you didnt  
read carefully, doesnt mean others wont.


and what's with your "WARNING WARNING EBAY" subject line?  .. one  
would have thought they were behind some terrorist plot...LOL..


calm down, mike.




On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Michael B wrote:

today, ebay started a new policy of giving 5 free insertions per 30  
day cycle, or so.  (see there message board posting of today.)


HOWEVER..

to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.  I called ebay, and they  
pointed to the language of their information page:  "...when you  
use the eBay Sell Your Item or Simple listing form"


i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this odd  
restriction.


michael

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Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Franc]

Hi Phil --- You're presuming there's a business model working here.
That's presumptuous.  FRANC
 
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From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Phil
Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY



Presumably this is the lead-in to charging for use of Turbolister (long
mooted) and making the laborious SYI function either cheaper or free...
probably free to lure back their dwindling base of small sellers - the
bread and butter they so roundly dismissed in their misguided bent on
world domination.
 
They telegraph every advance change leading to increasing costs in this
fashion.
 
As painfully predictable as the "user enhanced" jargon that will
accompany such rises.
 
Phil

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From: Michael B   
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:57 AM
Subject: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

today, ebay started a new policy of giving 5 free insertions per 30 day
cycle, or so.  (see there message board posting of today.)

HOWEVER..

to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.  I called ebay, and they
pointed to the language of their information page:  "...when you use the
eBay Sell Your Item or Simple listing form"

i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this odd
restriction.

michael


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Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Phil Edwards]

Presumably this is the lead-in to charging for use of Turbolister (long mooted) 
and making the laborious SYI function either cheaper or free... probably free 
to lure back their dwindling base of small sellers - the bread and butter they 
so roundly dismissed in their misguided bent on world domination.

They telegraph every advance change leading to increasing costs in this fashion.

As painfully predictable as the "user enhanced" jargon that will accompany such 
rises.

Phil
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  From: Michael B 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:57 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY


  today, ebay started a new policy of giving 5 free insertions per 30 day 
cycle, or so.  (see there message board posting of today.)

  HOWEVER..

  to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.  I called ebay, and they pointed to 
the language of their information page:  "...when you use the eBay Sell Your 
Item or Simple listing form"

  i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this odd restriction.

  michael


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Re: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Franc]

I usually post through a non-Ebay bulk lister. I guess this wouldn't
qualify either.  FRANC 

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Michael B
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:57 PM
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Subject: [MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY


today, ebay started a new policy of giving 5 free insertions per 30 day
cycle, or so.  (see there message board posting of today.)

HOWEVER..

to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.  I called ebay, and they
pointed to the language of their information page:  "...when you use the
eBay Sell Your Item or Simple listing form"

i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this odd
restriction.

michael


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[MOPO] WARNING<>WARNING<>EBAY

[Michael B]

today, ebay started a new policy of giving 5 free insertions per 30 day cycle, 
or so.? (see there message board posting of today.)

HOWEVER..

to qualify, YOU CANNOT USE TURBO LISTER.? I called ebay, and they pointed to 
the language of their information page:??"...when you use the eBay Sell Your 
Item or Simple listing form"

i wonder how many people will list items unaware of this odd restriction.

michael

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[MOPO] FA: Lots of great 1920s & 1930s titles with great visuals selling for a song with just 12 hours to go; NO buyers premiums or reserves!

[Bruce Hershenson]

*ARE YOU A "VALUE SHOPPER" WHEN IT COMES TO THIS HOBBY?* If so, tonight's
auctions, which consist solely of 650 window cards (including a wonderful
collection of scarce 1920s and 1930s titles!) and large format French &
Italian posters including one-panels & two-panels are made especially for
you!

Why? Because these are three sizes that often sell for relatively lower
prices than more popular one-sheets, and every time I auction these sizes I
see lots and lots of great values! Whether or not you have ever yet
purchased a single one of these sizes, or if your collection consists solely
of them,you should be checking these out carefully.

I just tiptoed over to the gallery of these posters at
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/mode/0/13.html and looked at those 650
items I have closing tonight, Tuesday night (including lots and lots of
"better" titles, but only a few that you need to be wealthy to consider
bidding on!), and *I REALLY COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, BECAUSE
I SEE PRICES THAT REPRESENT REALLY EXCELLENT VALUES ON QUALITY ITEMS, AND
SOME BEING PRACTICALLY GIVEN AWAY! I HAD TO PINCH MYSELF TO BE CERTAIN I
WASN'T DREAMING!
*

**With just 13 hours to go, there are a whopping 76 of them at still at $1
each (what does *ONE DOLLAR* buy you anywhere these days?), 201 are at just
$3 each or under, and 330 are at $7 each or under and those numbers truly
include lots and lots of window cards, French & Italian. posters that you
would expect to see at $20, $30 or much more on any dealer's website (and I
promise you that there are many quality titles in this "bottom 330")!
  And almost ALL of the remaining 220 that are over $7 each are at
really reasonable prices, with just 12 hours to go, and they include lots of
*REALLY* good titles, including *I'M NO ANGEL 1933 WC*,* A BLIND BARGAIN
1922 WC*, *LOVE 1927 WC*, *DANCE OF LIFE 1929 FRENCH TWO PANEL*, *EYES
WITHOUT A FACE** FRENCH ONE PANEL***, *GRAND PRIX ITALIAN TWO PANEL *and on
and on! If you have been in this hobby for any length of time, you
*KNOW*these sorts of titles
*VERY* rarely sell for any kind of bargain, but that may well happen
tonight!

Now I flat-out *REFUSE* to believe they can end at these prices (I think  it
is only the weak economy causing temporary weakness in some prices, and that
once the world stabilizes, people will look back at some current prices, and
say, "I absolutely shoulda bought much more"), and I am sure many of these
non-U.S. posters will get more bids, but if you have been thinking "Where
are there good deals in this hobby?", you need look no further than these
auctions!

Go to http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/mode/0/13.html to check them out
for yourself. *REMEMBER!* If you are a member of my weekly e-mail club (see
below), you only have to buy 10 of these non-U.S. posters to get a set of
all 23 of my in-print books as a free bonus! (If you somehow aren't one of
the 5,300+ members, go to
http://www.emovieposter.com/mail/clubsignup.phpand join right now!).
*GIVEN THAT SO MANY OF THESE ARE AT $7 OR LESS, YOU ARE VIRTUALLY ASSURED TO
BE ABLE TO GET 10 OF THEM OF YOUR CHOICE PLUS THE 23 $20 BOOKS FOR AROUND
$20 TO $30, AND HOW SILLY IS THAT?

And remember that the very best thing about these auctions is that there are
no reserves or buyers premiums (so they will all really sell at these low
low prices) and THAT YOU ONLY PAY A SINGLE $12 U.S. SHIPPING CHARGE (the $12
is for tonight only, because of how large the packages will be) NO MATTER
HOW MANY OF THESE YOU BUY, SO YOU MAY WELL BUY 20 OR 30 OF THEM FOR JUST A
DOLLAR OR TWO EACH (either solely those, or in addition to more expensive
posters) AND YOU ONLY PAY A TOTAL OF $12 U.S. SHIPPING FOR ALL OF THEM!

*And I don't want to read even one of those "If I had any idea item X could
sell so low, so I didn't bid" kinds of posts come Wednesday morning!

*We have a great weekly e-mail club!*
Our club has 5,408 members, and many weeks we make great bonus offers to
club members who buy multiple items from us at auction! So if there is
*ANY*chance at all that you might end up buying a number of items from
us at
auction in future weeks, then you have a *LOT* of incentive to join the club
(if you are not already a member) because we will keep on giving away
excellent prizes to those members of the club who buy multiple items. We run
fun weekly polls, which a couple of hundred participate in each week, with
great prizes for randomly selected members, plus we give news about the
hobby in general and our auctions in particular!
Why not join the club today (if you are not already a member)? You'll at
most receive *ONE* e-mail a week (note that we do *NOT* send update e-mails
like this one to members of our weekly e-mail club, because the information
is duplicated there, so if you join our club, you will cease to get these
"update" e-mails), and your e-mail address is *NEVER* given out to anyone,
and you have a great chance to win great prizes, and you can quit an

Re: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

[Walton, Jeffrey]

Sean

 

I'm curious on how exactly you came to this conclusion based on the two
set comparison?

 

Reason I'm questioning is that my Alien lobby card set was the second or
third acquirement into my collection.  It was given to me by a friend
who managed a theater.  He had about 10 sets he saved but I only took
the Alien set since this was in my genre and it was the first "R" rated
film that I saw -ahh the memories.  Most of the cards are very clean
with the exception of two that have multiple pin holes - he said he only
used to hang the best cards of a set.  My set was acquired around
1982/83.  My #8 card is how you described "FAKE"   And only this one
stands out as being different.  I highly doubt that this is a repro set,
given the source and the timeframe...and that it is only one card that
differs.  But if one card is different in my set I'm sure there are sets
out there that differ as well by one or two cards.

 

Though I do not classify myself as an expert, I have been collecting for
more than 20 years.

 



From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Sean
Linkenback
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:48 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Alien Fake Lobby Card Set Revealed

 

I recently had a chance to do a nice side-by-side comparison of a real
Alien (1979) Lobby Card set and a fake Alien lobby card set.  Hopefully
this guide will help anyone looking for a set to stay away from the
repros and be able to spot them even in a small eBay photo (there are at
least five different sellers on eBay right now offering the fake sets).

Every single one of the cards in the fake set is quite darker than the
original set, and every single one of the cards in the fake set has also
had some of the photo details trimmed off on the left/right sides when
compared to the originals.  On a few of the cards, the images have been
enlarged to fit the cards, but on a few some photoshopping was done and
one has quite a comical affect.  All of the cards have differences from
the originals, but I am going to focus on 5 "easy" tells to help you
out.

Lobby Card #7 - Crew Portrait
I start with this one, as it is one of the easiest ways to spot a fake.
Basically if Harry Dean Stanton has an extra right arm floating next to
him, you have a fake card.  (there are also some photoshop effects on
the right side).  The last few centimeters of the image on the left side
of the card were duplicated to extend the image to the borders, and in
doing so they made a duplicate image of part of Harry Dean Stanton's
arm/jacket (and then darkened it so it is harder to tell).

 
 Card #7 Real
 
Card #7 Fake
  
 
 Card #7 Side-by-Side
 

Lobby Card #8 - in the Ship
The easy tell on this card is the light board behind Sigourney Weaver's
head.  If you have a card where the light extends all the way to the
border,  you have a fake.  On the original the light ends just before
the border, while on the fake the edge has once again been photoshopped
to extend the cropped image to the border.

Card #8 Real
 
Card #8 Fake
 
Card #8 Side-by-Side
 

Card #1 - on the planet surface
This card is just a cropped image, so there is missing artwork on the
left and right borders.  On the right side not as much as the alien
machinery can be seen, while on the left the easiest tell is the small
white triangular piece coming into the middle of the card on the arm of
the spacesuit.  On the original it is much longer than on the fake.

Card #1 Real
 
 
 Card #1 Fake
 
Card #1 Side-by-Side
 

Card #4 - Alien Gunner
Once again slightly trimmed art and some photoshop effects.  When
looking at the alien wall design on the right edge of the card, on the
original not only is there slightly more image, but the edge design
tends to slant slightly up at an angle, while on the fake cards it just
extends straight for the last few centimeters.

Card #4 Real
 
Card #4 Fake

Re: [MOPO] Should restorers sign their work?

[Helmut Hamm]

Restorers shouldn't sign their work, but they should sign a letter,  
that lays out IN DETAIL what work they performed on the poster, plus  
a before-restoration

photo should accompany this 'restoration certificate'.

Now THAT would help a lot, especially if you don't have a chance to  
view a poster in person before the purchase.
(Or, if you just lack the experience to tell what restoration has  
been performed.)


And let's face it, some of the restorers out there are so good, it's  
frightening.


Helmut

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