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Re: [MOPO] Propstore April Auction - What The, Huh?

2024-04-19 Thread David Kusumoto

Grey is correct.  Bidders should always use an auction house's dedicated 
bidding platform vs. one run by a third party.  For the PropStore sale, I 
bookmarked a lot of items.  Not once did I consider bidding or even "watching" 
through another "layer" via Invaluable.

Some houses allow third-party platforms to run parallel to their own platforms, 
e.g., Invaluable, Live Auctioneers, etc. - which yes, do take an additional cut 
from bidders and are vulnerable to lags.  I totally get that they allow for a 
wider net of potential bidders, esp. for smaller houses who save money not 
running their own bid sites.  But they also strike me as auction consolidation 
/ "brokerage" accounts for MANY auction houses being platformed on one site.  I 
won't use them unless they're the ONLY platform used by a house.  (Sometimes 
you find out when you visit the auction house website and try to bid - and 
you're re-directed to a third party platform with a different domain address.  
That's how you know.)

The only time a third-party platform makes sense to buyers is when they're 
exclusive to an auction house and not redundant, e.g., eMoviePoster's bidders, 
whether they know it or not, use the Auction Anything platform / software - but 
this is the ONLY platform in use by eMoviePoster.  You're not going to find its 
items on Invaluable or on any third party bidding platform.  (BTW, Auction 
Anything has other, lesser known auction house clients whose sales look vastly 
different - despite a few software similarities you can spot.  It's a reliable 
platform with the client having full control of its content - and lags or 
outages are rare.)

I do feel for Glenn in one sense because registrations are approved by the 
house - but sometimes this goes through the third party platform so he was 
probably unaware he could have gone straight to PropStore or contacted Grey 
direct.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Glenn Taranto 

Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 8:59 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

Grey, Greg, Rich et al -

1)  I didn't know there was any kind of upcharge for bidding through 
Invaluable. Never again.
2)  I've won through Invaluable before without any issues.
3)  How or Why is Propstore affiliated with Invaluable in the first place? Very 
confusing if you don't want us bidding through them.
4) Why was my bid not accepted?

Glenn



On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:43 AM Grey Smith 
mailto:greysm6...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Greg
This was all done by Invaluable.
Glenn should have gone to the PeopStore site to place his bids and was approved 
to bid there..
On that site, you have fully interactive bidding and can also bid by phone.
I do believe he should have had a chance to increase his bid on Invaluable, but 
since it is a third-party site, the lag could have been significant.



On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:35 AM Greg Douglass 
mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote:

Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:57 PM
From: "Grey Smith" mailto:greysm6...@gmail.com>>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

It appears that you were the winner by a few seconds, Glenn. I don't get it; 
"bid not accepted?" Who did you piss off at Propstore?
I've been watching an auction more than a few times, already imagining it 
framed on my wall,  when some nerd with a sniping app comes in and  crushes me 
with half a second to go. I'm a sore loser by nature so I don't take things 
like that well.
It seems like the final price should have been higher if Invaluable had indeed 
outbid you. It's a bit confusing. Jesus, 250 bucks would have been a great 
price...
Greg Douglass
Beautiful Coos Bay, OR

Yes, but does the invaluable bidder not have a chance to increase?
I’m not sure why one wouldn’t bid invaluable instead of on PropStore’s great 
interactive live platform or by phone?



On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chris Nailor 
mailto:nailman...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have seen this a lot. Invaluable bids post at the close of the auction. All 
other bids are previous bids. So, two bids of the same amount means Invaluable 
bid loses.



On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Glenn Taranto 
mailto:exit82afi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Greg, et al -

How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a while now.

Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days...

Guess not!!!

Invaluable SUCKS

Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen
Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD
My Max Bid:$250 USD
Sold: $250 USD
Propstore Los Angeles 
 
April 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US

Bidder
Bid Type
Bid Date/Time
Amount
Status
Floor
Floor
4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM
$250
Winner
e***m
Absentee
4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM
$250
Submitted, not accepted

Glenn



On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM G

Re: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

2024-04-19 Thread Greg Douglass

I had no idea what Invaluable was. I did a cursory look and it appears to be a sniping app dressed up in nice clothing. It takes a percentage of the buyer's premium and it doesn't work?

Fab.

Greg Douglass

Coos Bay, OR

Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:08 PM
From: "Glenn Taranto"
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

Greg, et al -

How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a while now.

Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days...

Guess not!!!

Invaluable SUCKS

Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen

Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD

My Max Bid:$250 USD
Sold: $250 USD

Propstore Los Angeles April 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US

Bidder
Bid Type
Bid Date/Time
Amount
Status

Floor
Floor
4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM
$250
Winner

e***m
Absentee
4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM
$250
Submitted, not accepted

Glenn

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM Greg Douglass wrote:

Sigh.

There was a "Wasp Woman" half sheet that I was ready to go to any financial lengths to get at Sunday's auction. I glanced at the ending time before I went out for a hike with my wife and thought, "Wow, 3:30? I can do that easily!"

3:30 CENTRAL Daylight Time. Not PDT, not EDT. I ran into my office and the poster had gone for a price that I would have matched. D'oh! The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat.

The big surprise to me was the 1959 Hammer "The Mummy" half sheet that sold for 3K+. What made this title take a sudden spike?

Greg Douglass

Coos Bay, OR

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[MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

2024-04-19 Thread Glenn Taranto

Grey, Greg, Rich et al -

1)  I didn't know there was any kind of upcharge for bidding through
Invaluable. Never again.
2)  I've won through Invaluable before without any issues.
3)  How or Why is Propstore affiliated with Invaluable in the first place?
Very confusing if you don't want us bidding through them.
4) Why was my bid not accepted?

Glenn

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:43 AM Grey Smith  wrote:

> Greg
> This was all done by Invaluable.
> Glenn should have gone to the PeopStore site to place his bids and was
> approved to bid there..
> On that site, you have fully interactive bidding and can also bid by phone.
> I do believe he should have had a chance to increase his bid on
> Invaluable, but since it is a third-party site, the lag could have been
> significant.
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:35 AM Greg Douglass 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:57 PM
>> *From:* "Grey Smith" 
>> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> *Subject:* [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?
>> It appears that you were the winner by a few seconds, Glenn. I don't get
>> it; "bid not accepted?" Who did you piss off at Propstore?
>> I've been watching an auction more than a few times, already imagining it
>> framed on my wall,  when some nerd with a sniping app comes in and  crushes
>> me with half a second to go. I'm a sore loser by nature so I don't take
>> things like that well.
>> It seems like the final price should have been higher if Invaluable had
>> indeed outbid you. It's a bit confusing. Jesus, 250 bucks would have been a
>> great price...
>> Greg Douglass
>> Beautiful Coos Bay, OR
>>
>> Yes, but does the invaluable bidder not have a chance to increase?
>> I’m not sure why one wouldn’t bid invaluable instead of on PropStore’s
>> great interactive live platform or by phone?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chris Nailor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen this a lot. Invaluable bids post at the close of the
>>> auction. All other bids are previous bids. So, two bids of the same amount
>>> means Invaluable bid loses.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Glenn Taranto 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Greg, et al -

 How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a
 while now.

 Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days...

 Guess not!!!

 Invaluable SUCKS

 Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen
 Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD
 *My Max Bid:$250 USD*
 *Sold: *$250 USD
 Propstore Los Angeles
 April
 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US

 Bidder Bid Type Bid Date/Time Amount Status
 Floor Floor 4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM $250 Winner
 *e***m* *Absentee* *4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM* *$250* *Submitted, not
 accepted*

 Glenn


 On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM Greg Douglass 
 wrote:

> Sigh.
> There was a "Wasp Woman" half sheet that I was ready to go to any
> financial lengths to get at Sunday's auction. I glanced at the ending time
> before I went out for a hike with my wife and thought, "Wow, 3:30? I can 
> do
> that easily!"
> 3:30 CENTRAL Daylight Time. Not PDT, not EDT. I ran into my office and
> the poster had gone for a price that I would have matched. D'oh! The 
> thrill
> of victory, the agony of defeat.
> The big surprise to me was the 1959 Hammer "The Mummy" half sheet that
> sold for 3K+. What made this title take a sudden spike?
> Greg Douglass
> Coos Bay, OR
>
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Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

2024-04-19 Thread Grey Smith

Greg
This was all done by Invaluable.
Glenn should have gone to the PeopStore site to place his bids and was
approved to bid there..
On that site, you have fully interactive bidding and can also bid by phone.
I do believe he should have had a chance to increase his bid on Invaluable,
but since it is a third-party site, the lag could have been significant.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:35 AM Greg Douglass  wrote:

>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:57 PM
> *From:* "Grey Smith" 
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?
> It appears that you were the winner by a few seconds, Glenn. I don't get
> it; "bid not accepted?" Who did you piss off at Propstore?
> I've been watching an auction more than a few times, already imagining it
> framed on my wall,  when some nerd with a sniping app comes in and  crushes
> me with half a second to go. I'm a sore loser by nature so I don't take
> things like that well.
> It seems like the final price should have been higher if Invaluable had
> indeed outbid you. It's a bit confusing. Jesus, 250 bucks would have been a
> great price...
> Greg Douglass
> Beautiful Coos Bay, OR
>
> Yes, but does the invaluable bidder not have a chance to increase?
> I’m not sure why one wouldn’t bid invaluable instead of on PropStore’s
> great interactive live platform or by phone?
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chris Nailor  wrote:
>
>> I have seen this a lot. Invaluable bids post at the close of the auction.
>> All other bids are previous bids. So, two bids of the same amount means
>> Invaluable bid loses.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Glenn Taranto 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greg, et al -
>>>
>>> How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a while
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days...
>>>
>>> Guess not!!!
>>>
>>> Invaluable SUCKS
>>>
>>> Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen
>>> Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD
>>> *My Max Bid:$250 USD*
>>> *Sold: *$250 USD
>>> Propstore Los Angeles
>>> April
>>> 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US
>>>
>>> Bidder Bid Type Bid Date/Time Amount Status
>>> Floor Floor 4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM $250 Winner
>>> *e***m* *Absentee* *4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM* *$250* *Submitted, not
>>> accepted*
>>>
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM Greg Douglass 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Sigh.
 There was a "Wasp Woman" half sheet that I was ready to go to any
 financial lengths to get at Sunday's auction. I glanced at the ending time
 before I went out for a hike with my wife and thought, "Wow, 3:30? I can do
 that easily!"
 3:30 CENTRAL Daylight Time. Not PDT, not EDT. I ran into my office and
 the poster had gone for a price that I would have matched. D'oh! The thrill
 of victory, the agony of defeat.
 The big surprise to me was the 1959 Hammer "The Mummy" half sheet that
 sold for 3K+. What made this title take a sudden spike?
 Greg Douglass
 Coos Bay, OR

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Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

2024-04-19 Thread Greg Douglass

Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:57 PM
From: "Grey Smith"
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

It appears that you were the winner by a few seconds, Glenn. I don't get it; "bid not accepted?" Who did you piss off at Propstore?

I've been watching an auction more than a few times, already imagining it framed on my wall, when some nerd with a sniping app comes in and crushes me with half a second to go. I'm a sore loser by nature so I don't take things like that well.

It seems like the final price should have been higher if Invaluable had indeed outbid you. It's a bit confusing. Jesus, 250 bucks would have been a great price...

Greg Douglass

Beautiful Coos Bay, OR

Yes, but does the invaluable bidder not have a chance to increase?

I’m not sure why one wouldn’t bid invaluable instead of on PropStore’s great interactive live platform or by phone?

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chris Nailor wrote:

I have seen this a lot. Invaluable bids post at the close of the auction. All other bids are previous bids. So, two bids of the same amount means Invaluable bid loses.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Glenn Taranto wrote:

Greg, et al -

How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a while now.

Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days...

Guess not!!!

Invaluable SUCKS

Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen

Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD

My Max Bid:$250 USD
Sold: $250 USD

Propstore Los Angeles April 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US

Bidder
Bid Type
Bid Date/Time
Amount
Status

Floor
Floor
4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM
$250
Winner

e***m
Absentee
4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM
$250
Submitted, not accepted

Glenn

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM Greg Douglass wrote:

Sigh.

3:30 CENTRAL Daylight Time. Not PDT, not EDT. I ran into my office and the poster had gone for a price that I would have matched. D'oh! The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat.

The big surprise to me was the 1959 Hammer "The Mummy" half sheet that sold for 3K+. What made this title take a sudden spike?

Greg Douglass

Coos Bay, OR

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