Re: [MOPO] Scott - MoPo

2008-06-27 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
Just a small point, as David makes some good ones here what I don't 
understand is how is talking about a movie " off topic".

If there wasn't a movie, there would not be a movie poster for it.

Interestingly, I was talking about this subject with a fellow dinosaur and 
one-time business partner Greg Edwards (no relation that we know, he being from 
Manchester or some godforsaken midlands town and me being from Wollongong, a 
godforsaken NSW south coast mining town) and te subject of how " collectors 
have changed".

The one thing us two old farts (and his farts are older than mine by a year or 
two) is that there seems in the last 10-15 years a new breed of collector of 
movie posters - that is people who are not remotely interested in films (except 
for this week's multiplex CGI eye-candy, perhaps)... and we wondered in that 
collective wondering way that dinosaurs though separated by thousands of miles 
of ocean can do why do people collect movie posters if they are not 
actually that interested in films.

Ipso facto (or in this case dipso facto) whay is talking about MOVIES on a 
MOVIE POSTER GROUP considered OFF TOPIC.

Phil (today, sovber as a judge)

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:50:45 -0700, David Kusumoto wrote
> Scott:
> 
> I'm not alone when I say again that I've received private e-mails over the 
> years from MoPoers who say they'll remain "lurkers" -- in some cases -- 
> "forever." They usually fall into 2 categories -- 1) they don't feel they've 
> anything to contribute; they're satisified others will cover issues that 
> interest them most; 2) they fear getting pounded in public or private from 
> people who disagree with their views, stirring up trouble they don't want.  
>  
> Other broad observations:  some "lurkers" tell me they see layers of "camps" 
> for every issue, and it's the same people writing to MoPo, not a lot of new 
> names.  When I encourage them to "get out there and contribute" -- they say 
> they get the impression that most of the group is made up of older people who 
> don't want to talk about newer things.  For ex., when I go off-topic to, let 
> say, talk about a new film, that's when some "lurkers" will write privately.  
> Yet I know several veteran MoPoers who have say, no offense, I have zero 
> interest in your reviews and what not; that's fine and I rarely hear from 
> them again on any level.  The impression that there are "too many old people 
> on MoPo" comes from the discussion of posters to films made when were in 
> cribs or before they were born.  A few admit they haven't seen some of the 
> "classic films" that have been discussed, like "Vertigo," for example, and 
> feel kind of left out.  So they stay quiet unless we invite them to comment. 
>  
> -d.
> 
> 
---

> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:14:17 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bad pic, NO PURCHASE
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> 
> 
> 
> >-Original Message-
> > From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Franc
> 
>  
> > No, I think it would be better for Michael to e-mail the seller personally 
> > rather than broadcasting it all over this board. FRANC
>  
>  
> I disagree with  Franc.
>  
> Michael said he *did* contact the seller who refuses to send any additional 
> images. I have no problem with mentioning an eBay seller's user ID on MoPo. 
> In fact, I appreciate hearing about such situations myself. We're a 
> relatively small group here (less than 400) and our individual experiences 
> with sellers can provide valuable information useful to all. A seller who is 
> less-than-generous with images or condition information can not expect an 
> endorsement on MoPo. I'm sure WELN's eBay world won't come to an end because 
> of a little bad press on MoPo. But such information certainly helps me when 
> making a purchase decision on eBay. 
>  
> I'm also bothered by Michael's later e-mail where he states his reason for 
> not initially identifying the image-challenged eBay'er was because he was 
> previously "blasted" on MoPo for being "too friendly" about poster-guru Bruce 
> H. I've heard this before about posting on MoPo --there is a fear that 
> stating an opinion will generate an unpleasant response. Wow. That's a 
> problem!!! Everyone should feel totally free to express their point of view 
> without fear of taking an electronic beating by other list members.  Do 
> others feel as Michael does? Perhaps my ultra thick skin from running MoPo 
> all these years makes me totally impervious to such feedback. 
>  
> Scott
> MoPo List Owner
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Litton
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:10 PM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
> 
> 
> Michael
>  
> I cannot understand why you would make an interesting post which clearly 
> makes sense to pursue and then 

Re: [MOPO] Here's one place EB and PP didn't quite get what it wanted....

2008-06-12 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/accc-thwarts-ebay-paypal-plan/2008/06/12/1212863822348.html
 

 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
   ___
  How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List

   Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L

The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.



Re: [MOPO] Proof or just untrimmed???

2008-06-09 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
Yes, I am the Distinguished Australian Gentleman.
Not sure why my handle has changed to my full moniker.
This week I have been working directly off my mail server
so perhaps it's reading something else.

Apologies for the confusion!

Phil (DAG)

Reest assuredOn Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:04:50 -0700, Roger Kim wrote
> Oh, you're the guy from Australia! Thanks for clarifying. I thought we had a 
> NEW Mopoer named Philip Charles Edwards, since that is how your name recently 
> started showing up. I was thinking you must be some real distinguished 
> gentleman. Not that you aren't...but I didn't realize that you are the same 
> Phil Edwards that we've known all along. I'm sure this was obvious to 
> everyone else. 
> 
> -Roger
> 
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 8:57 PM, Philip Charles Edwards wrote: And the real use of 
> a proof, is that it can be checked by all the people needed to check that all 
> colours are correct, all spelling is correct, all contractual placements of 
> names and font sizes are correct. all the proofs I received for posters I 
> had designed for both theatrical and video release in Australia (in the late 
> 80s/early 90s) and proofs of commissioned articles/publications were always 
> on better stock than the finished job once the proof was signed off as 
> correct. 
> 
> Untrimmed one sheets (or other posters) with the colour blocks for matching 
> and registration puposes (as Tom points out correctly in the pre-digital age 
> when separation films were used and plates made) are just that... it can be 
> 20 or 200 out of the press while final colour diddling can be done and 
> checked. 
> 
> Calling untrimmed one sheets " proofs" just makes them sound better. Most 
> real proofs are going to be residing in studio/distributor vaults (if they 
> bothered to keep them at all). 
> 
> Phil 
> 
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:20:42 -0700, allen day wrote 
> >

> > Howdy, 
> > 
> > The answer to your question is ... yes and no. 
> > 
> > In the printing department, printers pull them from the machines for future 
> > samples, checks on color registration, ink / print quality, and overall 
> > quality assurance / control. 
> > 
> > In the cutting department, cutters pull them because they keep samples of 
> > all posters, BTW ... the cutting department is every printing facility just 
> > happens to be close to the back door .. I'm not sure why.  
> > 
> > ad 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 6/9/08, Douglas Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > From: Douglas Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > Subject: [MOPO] Proof or just untrimmed??? 
> > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> > Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 9:05 PM 
> > 
> > 
> > Jeff Potokar kind of asked the difference of the two when describing what 
> > you call a poster that still has the printers color chart on the side of 
> > the poster. In the 7 years on MOPO, I don't think anyone has addressed this 
> > issue. 
> > Bruce, Dave Lieberman, Dan Richard, and others...in listings call them 
> > printers proofs, but as Jeff suggest, aren't they just untrimmed posters? 
> > 
> > Is there a difference? 
> > 
> > Doug Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com 
> > ___ How to 
> > UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List  Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L  The author of 
> > this message is solely responsible for its content. 
> >

> > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com 
> > ___ How to 
> > UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List  Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L  The author of 
> > this message is solely responsible for its content. 
> 
> -- 
> Nelson Bay Online (http://www.nelsonbay.com) 
> 
>  Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com 
> ___ How to 
> UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List  Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L  The author of 
> this message is solely responsible for its content.
>

-- 
Nelson Bay Online (http://www.nelsonbay.com)

 

 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
   ___
  How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List

   Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L

The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.



Re: [MOPO] Proof or just untrimmed???

2008-06-09 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
And the real use of a proof, is that it can be checked by all the people needed 
to check that all colours are correct, all spelling is correct, all contractual 
placements of names and font sizes are correct. all the proofs I received 
for posters I had designed for both theatrical and video release in Australia 
(in the late 80s/early 90s) and proofs of commissioned articles/publications 
were always on better stock than the finished job once the proof was signed off 
as correct.

Untrimmed one sheets (or other posters) with the colour blocks for matching and 
registration puposes (as Tom points out correctly in the pre-digital age when 
separation films were used and plates made) are just that... it can be 20 or 
200 out of the press while final colour diddling can be done and checked.

Calling untrimmed one sheets " proofs" just makes them sound better. Most real 
proofs are going to be residing in studio/distributor vaults (if they bothered 
to keep them at all).

Phil

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:20:42 -0700, allen day wrote
>

> Howdy,
>  
> The answer to your question is ... yes and no.
>  
> In the printing department, printers pull them from the machines for future 
> samples, checks on color registration, ink / print quality, and overall 
> quality assurance / control.
>  
> In the cutting department, cutters pull them because they keep samples of all 
> posters, BTW ... the cutting department is every printing facility just 
> happens to be close to the back door .. I'm not sure why.  
>  
> ad
> 
> --- On Mon, 6/9/08, Douglas Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Douglas Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MOPO] Proof or just untrimmed???
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 9:05 PM
> 
> 
> Jeff Potokar kind of asked the difference of the two when describing what you 
> call a poster that still has the printers color chart on the side of the 
> poster. In the 7 years on MOPO, I don't think anyone has addressed this issue.
> Bruce, Dave Lieberman, Dan Richard, and others...in listings call them 
> printers proofs, but as Jeff suggest, aren't they just untrimmed posters?
>  
> Is there a difference? 
>  
> DougVisit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at 
> www.filmfan.com___How
>  to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this 
> message is solely responsible for its content.
>

> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at 
> www.filmfan.com___How
>  to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this 
> message is solely responsible for its content.

-- 
Nelson Bay Online (http://www.nelsonbay.com)

 

 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
   ___
  How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List

   Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L

The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.



Re: [MOPO] How much time/money do you spend on eBay NOW, compared to a few ye...

2008-06-09 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
Claude's response made me wonder about something else.
How many of us have spouses/partners who are equally interested in 
our poster collecting interests? How many just tolerate it? How many have no 
idea how
much gets spent on it, and how many collectors hide what they spend on it?

Over the years, I have seen several collectors go bankrupt and several 
marriages/
partnerships go bust because of "the hobby" becoming an  obsession.

Does the sentence, EITHER BELA LUGOSI GOES OR I DO ring a bell with any older 
collectors, and the
consequences of that statement for one particular collector?

Phil

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:48:05 EDT, Claude Litton wrote
> 
> Bruce
>  
> The picture you paint has some interesting details but it is not as dark as 
> you paint it.  Life changes and you have to go with it.  Before I get into 
> eBay, let's talk posters in general.  When I began poster collecting you were 
> selling at Christies and also auctions in which you sent out flyers and we 
> had to call in to buy items.  Most of the time I was told that what I wanted 
> was sold. These were dark days and there weren't many places to get posters.  
> Movie Collectors World would arrive by overnight mail to my home and I would 
> spend an hour or more with a magnifying glass and then frantically call to 
> find out that what I wanted was sold.  We really had no clue as to what was 
> rare and valuable and what was fairly common.  Ebay changed all of that.  The 
> auctions allowed me to really add to my collection.  I am fortunate in that I 
> can afford to buy pretty much what I want and I saw a lot that I wanted. As 
> time passed more and more people arrived on the scene and we found o!
 ut what really was scarce and what was fairly common.  The cream has risen to 
the top.  You applauded ebay and established yourself very well.  All of us 
went into buying frenzies at the beginning because we thought we were obtaining 
rare items.  In many cases we did, and many times we did not.  I bought many 
only to find out they are plentiful in supply.  I bought many posters on ebay 
and most are worth much more today but many will never reach what I paid for 
them. (I am thankful for the ones that turned out well as they outnumber the 
others)  Basically, ebay's arrival was tremendous and I will always be thankful 
it arrived.
>  
> Packing was a problem and still is especially because I buy plaster fragile 
> plaster statues.  However, I have overcome this problem (and with everything 
> I buy including posters).  I email the seller and discuss packing before I 
> pay.  I never pay until I obtain a reply from a seller that I have no 
> experience with. When the item is fragile and valuable I ask them to take it 
> to a UPS store where it will be packed by professionals and I pay a little 
> more.  It is well worth it and I have been fully satisfied ever since.  Every 
> seller has listened to my suggestions for packing and I have not had a 
> damaged item (due to packing) in quite a while.
>  
> Ebay does not enforce categories and I just recently complained on mopo about 
> Ricksmovie who is flooding the US originals 1940's category with 70"s 
> posters.  However, this does not mean I will stop looking.  I have noticed a 
> pattern to Ricks listings so I quickly pass it by. We just have to learn to 
> ignore these things so they don't get the better of us.  There is no question 
> that ebay does not care but it is still a very important venue to obtain 
> items for my collection.
>  
> Now for today:  I used to spend approximately $30-75,000 per year on ebay and 
> auctions.  This has dwindled  down to approximately $15-20,000.  This is not 
> because ebay has become bad.  It is because I have bought almost every poster 
> that I ever wanted.  As the years have come and gone I have filled the roster 
> with my wants.  Just as Michael always publishes his want list on mopo, I 
> have a want list also.  However, it has gotten very small and no matter how 
> bad ebay has gotten, I will be there if I find one I am seeking.  For 
> example, a few weeks ago I picked up a one sheet of Rose of Washington 
> Square.  I have been trying to get this poster for many, many years.  There 
> have been no Chans for auction (that I do not own) for a long time.  My 
> sci-fi collection wants are approximately 5 posters and I recently was outbid 
> on one I was waiting for.  However, there will be another one, one of these 
> days.
>  
> My point is that we have all been collecting a long time and our collections 
> are pretty full.  I have over 300 posters framed in my home and in my office 
> with virtually no wall space left for posters.  (My wife only allows me to 
> hang them in our finished lower level and not in the main part of the 
> house).  My office is saturated and that is where I hang the three sheets).  
> I search ebay 15 minutes each morning and 15 minutes each night.  I do this 
> even when away, as I did this weekend when I was 

Re: [MOPO] How much time/money do you spend on eBay NOW, compared to a few years ago?

2008-06-09 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
Increasingly less and for quite some time.
Buying, extremely rarely. Browsing, almost never.
As a seller we do most of our business through our website and private
sales.
They are a business, just like PP is part of their business, and so of course 
they have
to make a profit for their shareholders, but the fees versus returns as less 
and less people
use the site and the rate of deadbeat buyers rises makes the whole operation 
for cheaper
material a very time consuming exercise.

The numerous bells & whistles to not realy go toot, whistle, plunk and boom 
properly, the search engines
are erratic, and so on.

Fold in the general economic world downturn, the upsurge in gas prices (and the 
subsequent knock-on effect to
the day-to-day cost of living) the drop in discretionary spending as people 
have to re-arrange their
financial priorities and one can see why the drop-off rate has been so dramatic.

Plenty of sellers joined the " strikes" and may well have discovered they were 
better off in dollar terms simply
because many amateur sellers or " hobby sellers" simply don't do the math on 
listing fees/time spent vs. returns, but had it done for them when they became 
emotionally engaged through the strikes.

The potential answer to e*ay's problems is staring them in the face, but they 
are incapable of seeing it. As sellers leave, so do buyers. Alienate the 
regular/professional (in all senses of the term) sellers, then the charlatan 
ratio rises, the " buying experience" becomes far less attractive and the 
results we see become reality.
Phil E.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:32:20 -0500, Bruce Hershenson wrote
> I USED to be a really regular buyer on eBay (for a while, my buying level was 
> so high I needed a full-time employee to take care of paying, unpacking, 
> leaving feedback, etc). Not just movie paper, but also vintage glass frames, 
> paperback books, 1939 World's fair items, #1 magazines, and a few other areas 
> I somehow wandered into.
>  
> I had a lot of really good searches saved, and I also would go through a few 
> select entire categories, and also check all the offerings of the sellers I 
> bought from the most.
>  
> One day, I noticed that eBay had added a lot of unnecessary categories, that 
> really messed up my category searching, and worse yet, many sellers were 
> posting items wherever they wanted, and no one was policing this at all, and 
> complaints to eBay went unanswered.
>  
> Later, I noticed that most of my searches had gotten screwed up (some kind of 
> changes eBay had made), and I was just unwilling to re-do them all (since 
> eBay might ruin them again at any time).
>  
> I also noticed more and more sellers being deceptive in their titles, meaning 
> I would have to click on the listing to see what it REALLY was. Sometimes 
> titles like "Casablanca, rare style original movie poster" might turn out to 
> be a 1990s video poster!
>  
> Finally I noticed that many of my "favorite" sellers were listing less and 
> less, and when they did list anything good, they would usually have a high 
> starting price, unwilling to gamble their good posters on an eBay that was 
> clearly delivering less and less in the way of good buyers.
>  
> Worst of all, I was finding that a growing percentage of my purchases took 
> longer and longer to arrive (sometimes I would have to complain to get it 
> sent) and  a growing percentage of my purchases were not very well wrapped, 
> and a growing percentage of my purchases were ovrer-graded and the seller had 
> somehow "missed" extremely obvious defects.
>  
> ONE DAY, I JUST PACKED IT IN AND QUIT BUYING ON EBAY COLD TURKEY.  Do I miss 
> finding lots of cool stuff? Absolutely! But do I miss the hour a day I used 
> to spend searching all over eBay, finding something that seemed to 
> be promising but that turned out to be nothing, or do I miss the crushed 
> packages, or the over-graded items? Not at all!
>  
> HOW ABOUT YOU? How do your eBay buying habits NOW compare to a few years ago, 
> both in terms of time spent on the site, and total money spent?
>  
> BruceVisit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at 
> www.filmfan.com___How
>  to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this 
> message is solely responsible for its content.

-- 
Nelson Bay Online (http://www.nelsonbay.com)

 

 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
   ___
  How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List

   Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L

The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.



Re: [MOPO] Trusted names for new posters

2008-06-08 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
Saul - Simple advice.
Buy as early as you can into the campaign.
Even so-called trusted dealers buy from secondary sellers
who top up stock from those who sell (knowingly or unknowingly) fakes and repos
from wholesalers who sell both real and repro posters.

And this is from me, a dealer who ONLY sources from my industry sources and not 
secondary sellers
and has very little in the way of " new posters" to offer,  usually long after 
a  film is " new".
But at least we know that what we deal in came from a real source from the 
beginning.

There are so many fakes and repros out there now for new films that it's a 
minefield. By buying as early as 
possible into a campaign you reduce the likelyhood of buying a dud.
Regards,
Phil

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:49:50 -0500, Saul H. Chapman, Ph.D wrote
> Can anyone suggest some dealers on eBay, Rich's website, etc., etc. who deal 
> in ORIGINAL movie posters for recent and upcoming films.  Front or 
> backchannel is fine.
>  
> TIA
>  
> SaulVisit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at 
> www.filmfan.com___How
>  to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this 
> message is solely responsible for its content.

-- 
Nelson Bay Online (http://www.nelsonbay.com)

 

 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
   ___
  How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List

   Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L

The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.



Re: [MOPO] About reporters, Hershenson and other things...

2008-06-07 Thread Philip Charles Edwards
Bruce is of course correct, as we have noted privately.

The interesting thing about this "disinformation" and " non-specific"  is that 
one can only wonder whether the reporter's paper/media outlet (and the relevant 
news sources that picked it up, including the influential Financial Review here 
in Australia) maye well have been protecting their advertising dollars and 
associations by  not mentioning a specific auction site, but rather the whole 
online auction business which gives the story a whole different slant.

Of course damage done, and who can wonder at why so many think of the press as 
being unreliable.

In another life, I interviewed dozens of film makers, many of them more than 
once. A few even specificed they talked to me after their initial experience 
because my own personal credo was not to misquote them, or take their quotes 
out of context to fit another " question".

Not hard really, but one was always mindful of the studio publicist often 
sitting in the room, somewhat nervously. because I never asked the " usual 
questions".

The press/media is endless fascinating.
Phil E.
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:53:26 -0700, David Kusumoto wrote
> ** What Bruce says about reporters is TRUE.  I was a reporter before I became 
> an editor, and learned quickly that we had to SELL a pre-formed THESIS to our 
> bosses before we could get a green light to chase anything.  Only the 
> "sexiest angles" that our bosses felt would interest readers, viewers or 
> listeners won.  Two of the biggest reasons I got out of the news business was 
> the competitive chase for ratings -- as manifested -- beginning in the 1970s 
> -- by 1) the growing influence of slanted and biased "info-tainment" buried 
> in "news stories" and 2) the "glamorization" of news personalities.  People 
> who have seen the Will Ferrell parody, "Anchorman" know what I'm talking 
> about (ironically, set here in San Diego).  
>  
> 
>  
> ** Today, the idea allowing an "unattractive" news person on TV in any major 
> city is UNTHINKABLE.  However, what has NOT changed [WINDOWS-1252?]– is the 
> way stories are selected and packaged by editors.  Today I work on the other 
> side of the fence.  I deal with reporters as part of my job.  Most writers 
> have a pre-formed idea of where they want to go.  If you accuse them of 
> having an "agenda," they get pissed and you've just sunk yourself in your 
> effort to establish a semblance of "goodwill."
>  
> ** In about 50% of my cases, I am successful steering the news train in a 
> slightly different direction instead of being dragged behind it.  The most 
> successful PR shills are ex-news people (like myself) -- who are able to find 
> SEXIER angles which can trump a reporter's pre-formed thesis.   It enables a 
> reporter to "switch horses" without being humiliated.  My other tactic is to 
> poke so many editorial holes into a thesis -- in a friendly way so I don't 
> sound defensive [WINDOWS-1252?]– casting enough doubt to undermine a 
> reporter's confidence.  Reporters have no time.  They're always under the 
> gun.  If you do some leg work for them, they'll shift gears more readily.  
> This is what my clients expect me to do, even though I make no guarantees.  A 
> reporter's biggest fear is going back to their editors with nothing 
> [WINDOWS-1252?]– and being blacklisted as an empty suit or dress.
> 
> 
>  
> ** I haven't written anything that's been published in years.  But I'll give 
> you a vivid example that involves Bruce.  Nearly ten years ago, when I was a 
> contributor to MCW, I decided to explore his operations, attitudes and 
> reputation.  I ended up writing an article that was clearly labeled "opinion" 
> and combined it with an auction results story that ran nearly 6,000 words and 
> filled many pages with text and photographs.  My attitude going in wasn't 
> fixed; remember, back then, I'd already put in 13 years as a shill at a major 
> corporation, well after my days as a writer and editor in the 70s and 80s.  
> But I confess, I did have some pre-conceived ideas about what I'd write and 
> tackle when it came to movie posters.  Once word got out, the number of 
> people who came out of the WOODWORK to praise or to bury Bruce was 
> UNBELIEVABLE.  He was WAY more polarizing 10 years ago than he is today.  
>  
> ** People would call or write, declaring, "Dave, how can you not know that 
> Bruce is a so-and-so and has done this or that?"  I had others saying the 
> opposite and others who, when it came to brass tacks, would concede their 
> "proof" was a formulation of hunches or "as told to third- and fourth-party 
> testimonials"  which would never pass any litmus test for publication.  They 
> had axes to grind but would not come clean about them for public 
> consumption. Well, as people who've read my postings at MoPo since the 1990s 
> know, when I have an axe to grind against a person, I declare it first.  I 
> make no effort to be a "journalist

Re: [MOPO] FA eBay auctions - Disney lobby cards, arthouse one sheets

2006-08-27 Thread Philip Charles Edwards




Hi All,

Twenty four hours left on a selection of Disney animation lobby cards, arthouse and indie one sheets.

As always all shipping costs stated on the item pages and we'll combine shiping from our eBay auctions, eBay store and from our website sales at www.cinemarts.com

Thanks for looking,

Phil & Mila Edwards



eBay ID cinemarts if this link to auctions doesn't work.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQampq3bsspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQfclZ3QQfromZR7QQfrppZ200QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsascsZ1QQsassZcinemartsQQsofindtypeZ15



On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:51:27 -0400, Erich Linder wrote
> Hello everyone:  
>   
> Tonight, the last of my auctions for this month are closing!  Be sure to stop by and have a look soon! 
>   
> 
> http://www.lindersauctions.com/ebay   
>   
> Titles ending this evening around 9:45 PM Eastern: 
>   
> Hell on Frisco Bay Japanese  
> Grand Prix Japanese Style C  
> Star Wars Russian "Darth Puma"  
> Hellraiser Japanese Style A  
> Marilyn Monroe Special Retrospective  Japanese 
> Blow Up Italian Fotobusta #8 
>   
> Thanks, 
>   
> Erich 
>   
> 
> 
> ==
 
> Erich Linder 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (484) 318-1288 
> ==
 
>   
>   
> 
> 
>   
>   
>   
Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content.


-- 
Service provided by www.nelsonbay.com 





Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
___
How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List

Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L

The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.