[MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Bruce Hershenson
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This is an interior page from the pressbook for *Spirit of Notre Dame*. It
includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as The biggest
picture of the year), with art I have not seen anywhere else (and which
likely has not been seen for decades)! Any of you experts seen this
Frankenstein ad anywhere before?
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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Ron Moore
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or dealt with on 
the title.. 


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This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre Dame. It 
includes an 
advance ad for 
Frankenstein (billing it as The biggest picture of the year), 
with art I have not seen anywhere else (and which likely has not been seen for 
decades)! Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?
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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Bruce Hershenson
Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low billing. I
wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if they even had a
script.

Bruce

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore cinemaicon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or dealt with
 on the title..



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 Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere
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 *http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg

 This is an interior page from the pressbook for *Spirit of Notre Dame*. It
 includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as The biggest
 picture of the year), with art I have not seen anywhere else (and which
 likely has not been seen for decades)! Any of you experts seen this
 Frankenstein ad anywhere before?
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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he 
has on that ad



At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low 
billing. I wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if 
they even had a script.


Bruce

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore 
mailto:cinemaicon...@yahoo.comcinemaicon...@yahoo.com wrote:
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or dealt 
with on the title..




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Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?
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Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM

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This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre 
Dame. It includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as 
The biggest picture of the year), with art I have not seen 
anywhere else (and which likely has not been seen for decades)! Any 
of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Bruce Hershenson
Why did he only get fourth billing?


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
sa...@comic-art.com wrote:

  Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he has on
 that ad



 At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

 Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low billing. I
 wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if they even had a
 script.

 Bruce

 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore cinemaicon...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
  No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or dealt with
 on the title..



 --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Bruce Hershenson  brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bruce Hershenson  brucehershen...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere
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 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM


 http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg

 This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre Dame. It
 includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as The biggest
 picture of the year), with art I have not seen anywhere else (and which
 likely has not been seen for decades)! Any of you experts seen this
 Frankenstein ad anywhere before?
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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Jeff Potokar
THE SPIRIT OF NOTRE DAME opened on October 13, 1931 and is shown on  
the cover, as though it was just about to be released? (Or may have  
been released just prior to this publication?)


FRANKENSTEIN was released on November 21, 1931, only 5 weeks later,  
so I would think that FRANKENSTEIN was probably in post production at  
that point?









On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low  
billing. I wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if  
they even had a script.


Bruce

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore  
cinemaicon...@yahoo.com wrote:
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or  
dealt with on the title..




--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com  
wrote:


From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad  
anywhere before?

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM

http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/ 
pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg


This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre  
Dame. It includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as  
The biggest picture of the year), with art I have not seen  
anywhere else (and which likely has not been seen for decades)! Any  
of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
because Frankenstein is the film that made him a star.. until then he 
was only a supporting actor and that is his role in this film.


Colin Clive is the male lead
Mae Clarke is the female lead
John Boles is the top supporting actor
Karloff's credit comes in after John Boles



At 06:24 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Why did he only get fourth billing?


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
mailto:sa...@comic-art.comsa...@comic-art.com wrote:
Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he 
has on that ad




At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low 
billing. I wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if 
they even had a script.


Bruce

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore 
mailto:cinemaicon...@yahoo.comcinemaicon...@yahoo.com  wrote:
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or 
dealt with on the title..



--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Bruce Hershenson 
mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote:


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brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad 
anywhere before?

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Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM

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This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre 
Dame. It includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as 
The biggest picture of the year), with art I have not seen 
anywhere else (and which likely has not been seen for decades)! Any 
of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Richard Evans
Was wondering whether billing was related to level or type of  
performance anticipated.
Not uncommon for monsters depending on what the role requires to get  
low or no billing.


But Lugosi got star billing in the earlier trade ad, so just a matter  
of Karloff being relatively unknown?


Wasn't he cast after Whale spotted his unusual features in the  
canteen, or is that apocryphal?




On 19 Apr 2011, at 02:24, Bruce Hershenson wrote:


Why did he only get fourth billing?


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com 
 wrote:
Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he  
has on that ad




At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low  
billing. I wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if  
they even had a script.


Bruce

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore cinemaicon...@yahoo.com  
 wrote:
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or  
dealt with on the title..




--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Bruce Hershenson  brucehershen...@gmail.com  
wrote:


From: Bruce Hershenson  brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad  
anywhere before?

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM

http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg

This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre  
Dame. It includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as  
The biggest picture of the year), with art I have not seen  
anywhere else (and which likely has not been seen for decades)! Any  
of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

--
Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com  
team

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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art

also, let us not forget that Frankenstein is Colin Clive
Karloff is the Monster

the monster has come to be known as Frankenstein in the film lexicon, 
but it is a misconception



At 06:24 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Why did he only get fourth billing?


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
mailto:sa...@comic-art.comsa...@comic-art.com wrote:
Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he 
has on that ad




At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low 
billing. I wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if 
they even had a script.


Bruce

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore 
mailto:cinemaicon...@yahoo.comcinemaicon...@yahoo.com  wrote:
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or 
dealt with on the title..



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From: Bruce Hershenson mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com 
brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad 
anywhere before?

To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM

http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpghttp://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg 



This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre 
Dame. It includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as 
The biggest picture of the year), with art I have not seen 
anywhere else (and which likely has not been seen for decades)! Any 
of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Phillip W. Ayling
Richard,

Your assessment is exactly right. In the most technical sense Karloff's billing 
and role is not clearly articulated until the end of the film, even though his 
name is on the posters for the film. His role was being kept secret. In fact 
during the time frame of the film's release, there had been publicity that Bela 
Lugosi was doing the film. Even though he wound up not doing the movie, 
Universal did nothing to beat down those rumors, because unlike Karloff, Lugosi 
had Box-Office cache at that point.

Anyway, the Opening Credits of the 1931edit of Frankenstein, first reference 
Universal, Carl Laemmle and Jr., then goes to another card crediting Mary 
Shelly, Associate Producers, Screenwriters and Sound Recordists etc., Then 
there is a Solo Card saying Directed by James Whale. After that, is the next 
card in the Opening Credits titled The Players. That card list 9 roles, but 
only 8 performers. It starts with billing as you mentioned, though the format 
is:

Henry Frankenstein ...Colin Clive
Elizabeth . Mae Clark
Victor Moritz  John Boles
The Monster...?

Karloff is not given screen credit until the end of the film when a card 
appears with the words A Good Cast is Worth Repeating. This time the End 
Credit card lists the same 9 roles but also includes Karloff billed 4th as The 
Monster.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere 
before?


  because Frankenstein is the film that made him a star.. until then he was 
only a supporting actor and that is his role in this film.

  Colin Clive is the male lead
  Mae Clarke is the female lead
  John Boles is the top supporting actor
  Karloff's credit comes in after John Boles



  At 06:24 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Why did he only get fourth billing?


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
sa...@comic-art.com wrote:

  Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he has on 
that ad




  At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low 
billing. I wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if they even 
had a script.


Bruce


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore cinemaicon...@yahoo.com  
wrote: 
  No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or dealt 
with on the title.. 



  --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Bruce Hershenson  brucehershen...@gmail.com 
wrote:


From: Bruce Hershenson  brucehershen...@gmail.com 
Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad 
anywhere before? 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM



http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg
 


This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre 
Dame. It includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as The biggest 
picture of the year), with art I have not seen anywhere else (and which likely 
has not been seen for decades)! Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad 
anywhere before? 
-- 
Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com 
team 
P.O. Box 874 
West Plains, MO 65775 
Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when 
we take lunch) 
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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art

just one correction Phillip
Lugosi's name had been previously attached as the monster as was most 
famously shown in the 1931/32 Universal Annual released early in the 
year. Lugosi backed out shortly thereafter when he realized he would 
have no speaking scenes. He had no lines and that would just not do.
The film was already in production when they had to locate another 
actor to play the monster and that's where the commissary story of 
Whale's meeting with Karloff comes in. I believe that David Skal 
talks about the meeting in his Lugosi  Karloff book and it was less 
of a who is that actor over there on the line? he would fit the 
monster's role perfectly! and more of a James.. I would like you to 
meet Boris Karloff. Do you  think he may fit the role you need to 
fill? while in the commissary.


I believe the signing of Karloff is mentioned in Motion Picture World 
and in Variety where he was mentioned as an unknown actor by the 
name of Boris Karloff will be in the role of the monster blah blah




At 07:32 PM 4/18/2011, you wrote:

Richard,

Your assessment is exactly right. In the most technical sense 
Karloff's billing and role is not clearly articulated until the end 
of the film, even though his name is on the posters for the film. 
His role was being kept secret. In fact during the time frame of the 
film's release, there had been publicity that Bela Lugosi was doing 
the film. Even though he wound up not doing the movie, Universal did 
nothing to beat down those rumors, because unlike Karloff, Lugosi 
had Box-Office cache at that point.


Anyway, the Opening Credits of the 1931edit of Frankenstein, first 
reference Universal, Carl Laemmle and Jr., then goes to another card 
crediting Mary Shelly, Associate Producers, Screenwriters and Sound 
Recordists etc., Then there is a Solo Card saying Directed by James 
Whale. After that, is the next card in the Opening Credits titled 
The Players. That card list 9 roles, but only 8 performers. It 
starts with billing as you mentioned, though the format is:


Henry Frankenstein ...Colin Clive
Elizabeth . Mae Clark
Victor Moritz  John Boles
The Monster...?

Karloff is not given screen credit until the end of the film when a 
card appears with the words A Good Cast is Worth Repeating. This 
time the End Credit card lists the same 9 roles but also includes 
Karloff billed 4th as The Monster.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:sa...@comic-art.comRichard Halegua Comic Art
To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad 
anywhere before?


because Frankenstein is the film that made him a star.. until then 
he was only a supporting actor and that is his role in this film.


Colin Clive is the male lead
Mae Clarke is the female lead
John Boles is the top supporting actor
Karloff's credit comes in after John Boles



At 06:24 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Why did he only get fourth billing?


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
mailto:sa...@comic-art.comsa...@comic-art.com wrote:
Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he 
has on that ad



At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low 
billing. I wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if 
they even had a script.

Bruce
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore 
mailto:cinemaicon...@yahoo.comcinemaicon...@yahoo.com  wrote:
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or 
dealt with on the title..


--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Bruce Hershenson 
mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Bruce Hershenson mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com 
brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad 
anywhere before?

To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM

http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpghttp://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg 



This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre 
Dame. It includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as 
The biggest picture of the year), with art I have not seen 
anywhere else (and which likely has not been seen for decades)! 
Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

--
Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team
P.O. Box 874
West Plains, MO 65775
Phone: tel:417-256-9616417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 
except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch)

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Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?

2011-04-18 Thread Smith, Grey - 1367
Just an FYI, Heritage sold the same pressbook seven years ago and the ad is 
shown on our site.
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=607Lot_No=19424



From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Comic Art
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:53 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere 
before?

just one correction Phillip
Lugosi's name had been previously attached as the monster as was most famously 
shown in the 1931/32 Universal Annual released early in the year. Lugosi backed 
out shortly thereafter when he realized he would have no speaking scenes. He 
had no lines and that would just not do.
The film was already in production when they had to locate another actor to 
play the monster and that's where the commissary story of Whale's meeting with 
Karloff comes in. I believe that David Skal talks about the meeting in his 
Lugosi  Karloff book and it was less of a who is that actor over there on the 
line? he would fit the monster's role perfectly! and more of a James.. I 
would like you to meet Boris Karloff. Do you  think he may fit the role you 
need to fill? while in the commissary.

I believe the signing of Karloff is mentioned in Motion Picture World and in 
Variety where he was mentioned as an unknown actor by the name of Boris 
Karloff will be in the role of the monster blah blah



At 07:32 PM 4/18/2011, you wrote:

Richard,

Your assessment is exactly right. In the most technical sense Karloff's billing 
and role is not clearly articulated until the end of the film, even though his 
name is on the posters for the film. His role was being kept secret. In fact 
during the time frame of the film's release, there had been publicity that Bela 
Lugosi was doing the film. Even though he wound up not doing the movie, 
Universal did nothing to beat down those rumors, because unlike Karloff, Lugosi 
had Box-Office cache at that point.

Anyway, the Opening Credits of the 1931edit of Frankenstein, first reference 
Universal, Carl Laemmle and Jr., then goes to another card crediting Mary 
Shelly, Associate Producers, Screenwriters and Sound Recordists etc., Then 
there is a Solo Card saying Directed by James Whale. After that, is the next 
card in the Opening Credits titled The Players. That card list 9 roles, but 
only 8 performers. It starts with billing as you mentioned, though the format 
is:

Henry Frankenstein ...Colin Clive
Elizabeth . Mae Clark
Victor Moritz  John Boles
The Monster...?

Karloff is not given screen credit until the end of the film when a card 
appears with the words A Good Cast is Worth Repeating. This time the End 
Credit card lists the same 9 roles but also includes Karloff billed 4th as The 
Monster.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Halegua Comic Artmailto:sa...@comic-art.com
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere 
before?
because Frankenstein is the film that made him a star.. until then he was only 
a supporting actor and that is his role in this film.
Colin Clive is the male lead
Mae Clarke is the female lead
John Boles is the top supporting actor
Karloff's credit comes in after John Boles


At 06:24 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

Why did he only get fourth billing?

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
sa...@comic-art.commailto:sa...@comic-art.com wrote:
Karloff is fourth billed on this title, which is the same place he has on that 
ad

At 06:07 PM 4/18/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Notice the weird image of the monster and Karloff's weirdly low billing. I 
wonder if they had even signed him at that point, or if they even had a script.
Bruce
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Ron Moore 
cinemaicon...@yahoo.commailto:cinemaicon...@yahoo.com  wrote:
No, that's extremely different from anything I've ever seen or dealt with on 
the title..
--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Bruce Hershenson  
brucehershen...@gmail.commailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bruce Hershenson  
brucehershen...@gmail.commailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere before?
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:09 AM
http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/pb_spirit_of_notre_dame_front_and_interior.jpg
This is an interior page from the pressbook for Spirit of Notre Dame. It 
includes an advance ad for Frankenstein (billing it as The biggest picture 
of the year), with art I have not seen anywhere else (and which likely has not 
been seen for decades)! Any of you experts seen this Frankenstein ad anywhere 
before?
--
Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team
P.O. Box 874
West Plains, MO 65775
Phone: 417