Re: [MOPO] CREDIT CRUNCH AND MOVIE POSTER HOBBY

2009-01-03 Thread gary simmons
Is it just me or are things really bad?

Ive been paying attention to prices and it seems at BEST,...movie posters have 
plateaud and at worst are crashing.

I mean,.even the so called good stuff doesnt seem to be really that impressive 
anymore.

I wonder how much one could get for an Attack of the fifty foot woman poster or 
This Gun For Hire [0ne sheet].

I think its going to get worse.

:(


--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MOPO] FA: 1,998 posters in Parts III  IV of our end-of-year 
 One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza ending 12/30  1/1!
 To: mop...@sol03.american.edu
 Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 1:50 PM
 * eMoviePoster.com's End-of-Year One-Sheet Auction
 Extravaganza is half
 over, but you STILL have 1,998 one-sheets to bid on ending
 12/30  1/1!*
  One-sheets are the most popular size movie poster, and
 we have been
 consigned many thousands of them, and we have not been able
 to keep up with
 auctioning them, so we are holding this end-of-the-year
 event (which we hope
 will become an annual event!), as a way to help us
 catch up on auctioning
 the one-sheets we have been consigned (and you will find
 lots and lots of
 excellent titles contained within the thousands we are
 auctioning).  With so
 many posters being sold in such a short time, there is a
 certainty that
 there will be many deals, and likely some real
 steals, even on better
 titles!  We will be auctioning a total of 3,996 folded
 one-sheets spread
 over four auctions from 12/16 to 1/1 with *NO *duplication
 between the four
 auctions (there may be a few posters from the same titles,
 but they are
 different styles, or one is a re-release, or one is an
 international
 version, etc)!
 *  IMPORTANT NOTICE! *Because these auctions close
 during the week of
 the Christmas holiday and the week of the New Year's
 holiday, some of our
 staff will be away on vacation, and we imagine so will some
 of our buyers!
 This is also a *VERY *busy time at the Post Office and UPS,
 with many people
 sending last minute holiday gifts.  So, * PLEASE KNOW THAT
 IT IS FINE WITH
 US IF YOU WAIT TO PAY FOR YOUR PURCHASES FROM ANY OF THE
 FOUR PARTS OF THIS
 One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza UNTIL AFTER THE
 FINAL PART CLOSES ON
 JANUARY 1st * (although we ask that you please pay for your
 purchases
 promptly right after the last set of auctions closes, as we
 will be drowning
 in packages, and will need to get them sent!).  This
 waiting until the last
 auction closes is especially valuable to those of you
 who are likely to
 purchase from more than one part of the auction, because
 then we can send
 all those purchases together in a single package, thus
 saving you a lot of
 shipping cost! * Please be understanding of our having
 reduced staff during
 this holiday time, which may mean we take a little longer
 to answer e-mails
 or send orders.*
 --
 
 * Register for our Auctions*
 *Over 4,518 movie paper collectors have registered to bid
 in our auctions,
 but if you are one of the few movie paper collectors who
 have not yet
 registered to bid on our site, go
 HEREhttp://auctions.emovieposter.com/Registration.tafto
 do so.
 *  You need to register separately for our auctions on our
 own site, because
 the auctions are managed by an auction software company,
 and you need to
 create your own user ID and password (of course, your ID
 and password from
 any other auction site won't work in our auctions!). 
 It only takes a couple
 of minutes to do, and it is a one time thing, and thousands
 of our customers
 have already done so!
 --
 
 *Your money goes further with us!*
  In these uncertain economic times, doesn't it make
 sense to spend your
 money where it goes the absolute furthest? We auction
 everything with a $1
 opening bid and no reserves, so we truly sell many items
 for just $1 or $2
 or $3 (there are other auction places that have the nerve
 to claim they sell
 their items with $1 and no reserve like we do, but they
 have a minimum $9
 buyers premium, which means those $1, $2, and $3 posters
 *ACTUALLY* cost you
 $10, $11, and $12)! We have *NO* buyers premiums, and we
 only charge the
 actual cost of shipping (often less, when a buyer buys
 multiple items). We
 regularly give lots of great bonuses, often more valuable
 than the items
 required to qualify for them!
 This week, we are selling a total of *1,998 folded
 one-sheets *in our
 Tuesday and Thursday auctions (in Parts III and IV of our
 end-of-year
 One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza), and it is virtually a
 certainty that some
 percentage of them will sell for bargain
 prices, and there may be some
 absolute steals! Remember that, unlike the
 majority of hobbies, where
 the money you spend on your hobby is gone forever, the
 money you spend
 buying movie paper will almost certainly be recovered the
 day you ever sell
 your 

Re: [MOPO] CREDIT CRUNCH AND MOVIE POSTER HOBBY

2009-01-03 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art

it depends on who is selling them

if you are Heritage or Bruce.. you're very simply - kicking ass -

but the days of the average guy selling his posters for top dollar 
are over, at least for the time being


fleaBay continues to slowly go down down down except for a few 
sellers like Dave and Sean, Marty Davis etc


I was starting to kick ass on MPB until the economic crunch slowed me 
down.. Hopefully, all the stuff I brought home last month will give 
MPB a little kick-start


but look, collectors have no real way to achieve top dollar on their 
own and this is how it always was until fleaBay opened up.
As a collector, you generally don't have access to the customers and 
as people have exited fleaBay as buyers and sellers, it hasn't 
helped. So collectors are back to where they were 15 years ago - 
selling to or consigning to a dealer, which ultimately is better for 
a collector anyway.


Most collectors who wish to sell aren't aware of all the work and 
costs associated with selling as well as the time element. You 
already have a job and to work another 10-20 hours a week trying to 
sell posters is not what you're looking to do. So when you consign or 
sell to a dealer, you're short-circuiting all that and you either get 
a check right away when you sell your collection, or over time if you 
consign and for 99% of all collectors, this is really the best way to go.


Those collectors who only have the very top posters however can sell 
very easily, though right now unless you are Heritage or Bruce, you 
probably can't get top dollars anyway, A Frankenstein 1 sheet will 
always sell no matter who owns it. But the rest.. well, you just gotta be Bruce


Rich


At 12:01 PM 1/3/2009, gary simmons wrote:

Is it just me or are things really bad?

Ive been paying attention to prices and it seems at BEST,...movie 
posters have plateaud and at worst are crashing.


I mean,.even the so called good stuff doesnt seem to be really that 
impressive anymore.


I wonder how much one could get for an Attack of the fifty foot 
woman poster or This Gun For Hire [0ne sheet].


I think its going to get worse.

:(


--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MOPO] FA: 1,998 posters in Parts III  IV of our 
end-of-year One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza ending 12/30  1/1!

 To: mop...@sol03.american.edu
 Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 1:50 PM
 * eMoviePoster.com's End-of-Year One-Sheet Auction
 Extravaganza is half
 over, but you STILL have 1,998 one-sheets to bid on ending
 12/30  1/1!*
  One-sheets are the most popular size movie poster, and
 we have been
 consigned many thousands of them, and we have not been able
 to keep up with
 auctioning them, so we are holding this end-of-the-year
 event (which we hope
 will become an annual event!), as a way to help us
 catch up on auctioning
 the one-sheets we have been consigned (and you will find
 lots and lots of
 excellent titles contained within the thousands we are
 auctioning).  With so
 many posters being sold in such a short time, there is a
 certainty that
 there will be many deals, and likely some real
 steals, even on better
 titles!  We will be auctioning a total of 3,996 folded
 one-sheets spread
 over four auctions from 12/16 to 1/1 with *NO *duplication
 between the four
 auctions (there may be a few posters from the same titles,
 but they are
 different styles, or one is a re-release, or one is an
 international
 version, etc)!
 *  IMPORTANT NOTICE! *Because these auctions close
 during the week of
 the Christmas holiday and the week of the New Year's
 holiday, some of our
 staff will be away on vacation, and we imagine so will some
 of our buyers!
 This is also a *VERY *busy time at the Post Office and UPS,
 with many people
 sending last minute holiday gifts.  So, * PLEASE KNOW THAT
 IT IS FINE WITH
 US IF YOU WAIT TO PAY FOR YOUR PURCHASES FROM ANY OF THE
 FOUR PARTS OF THIS
 One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza UNTIL AFTER THE
 FINAL PART CLOSES ON
 JANUARY 1st * (although we ask that you please pay for your
 purchases
 promptly right after the last set of auctions closes, as we
 will be drowning
 in packages, and will need to get them sent!).  This
 waiting until the last
 auction closes is especially valuable to those of you
 who are likely to
 purchase from more than one part of the auction, because
 then we can send
 all those purchases together in a single package, thus
 saving you a lot of
 shipping cost! * Please be understanding of our having
 reduced staff during
 this holiday time, which may mean we take a little longer
 to answer e-mails
 or send orders.*
 --

 * Register for our Auctions*
 *Over 4,518 movie paper collectors have registered to bid
 in our auctions,
 but if you are one of the few movie paper collectors who
 have not yet
 registered to bid on our site, go
 HEREhttp://auctions.emovieposter.com/Registration.tafto
 do 

Re: [MOPO] CREDIT CRUNCH AND MOVIE POSTER HOBBY

2009-01-03 Thread CK MacLeod
Selective perception strikes deep.  Into your soul it will creep.
Extrapolating from short-term events to longer-term trends can also lead to
poor decisionmaking.  Can you give some specific examples showing how movie
posters have plateaud and at worst are crashing - preferably an assemblage
of meaningfully comparable data points?

I personally would have found it surprising if all of the economic
turbulence of the last few months didn't affect the poster trade like every
other trade.  On the other hand, business was a lot better this Christmas
season for me than I expected - and I've never observed my own little corner
of the collectibles trade being as heavily seasonal as other forms of
retailing.  (I mean, things can't be too bad when people are still willing
to pay $100 for a signed WHO P-P-P PLUGGED ROGER RABBIT? or $75 for a HOW
THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS Cindy Lou Who doll or $200 for a RETURN OF THE
JEDI Style A.)

To the extent we're still in a deflationary environment - meaning that many
people feel poorer and less certain of their ability to pay off debts once
incurred, or hold off on present expenditures in the expectation of lower
prices tomorrow - then a potentially significant stimulant to the trade may
be reduced.  On the other hand, like antiques and other art objects,
collectibles may weather the storm relatively well, especially if, as some
expect, attempts to stave off deflation and free credit eventually create an
inflationary environment instead.

The last I heard from the auction houses and others was that things were
going well.  I have no idea how much of it is or was propaganda.  I'd be
interested in real, concrete reporting as opposed to flights of fancy or
depression.

Colin

CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com
Kymar's on eBay

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@sol03.american.edu]on Behalf Of gary simmons
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:01 PM
To: mop...@sol03.american.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] CREDIT CRUNCH AND MOVIE POSTER HOBBY

Is it just me or are things really bad?

Ive been paying attention to prices and it seems at BEST,...movie posters
have plateaud and at worst are crashing.

I mean,.even the so called good stuff doesnt seem to be really that
impressive anymore.

I wonder how much one could get for an Attack of the fifty foot woman poster
or This Gun For Hire [0ne sheet].

I think its going to get worse.

:(


--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MOPO] FA: 1,998 posters in Parts III  IV of our end-of-year
One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza ending 12/30  1/1!
 To: mop...@sol03.american.edu
 Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 1:50 PM
 * eMoviePoster.com's End-of-Year One-Sheet Auction
 Extravaganza is half
 over, but you STILL have 1,998 one-sheets to bid on ending
 12/30  1/1!*
  One-sheets are the most popular size movie poster, and
 we have been
 consigned many thousands of them, and we have not been able
 to keep up with
 auctioning them, so we are holding this end-of-the-year
 event (which we hope
 will become an annual event!), as a way to help us
 catch up on auctioning
 the one-sheets we have been consigned (and you will find
 lots and lots of
 excellent titles contained within the thousands we are
 auctioning).  With so
 many posters being sold in such a short time, there is a
 certainty that
 there will be many deals, and likely some real
 steals, even on better
 titles!  We will be auctioning a total of 3,996 folded
 one-sheets spread
 over four auctions from 12/16 to 1/1 with *NO *duplication
 between the four
 auctions (there may be a few posters from the same titles,
 but they are
 different styles, or one is a re-release, or one is an
 international
 version, etc)!
 *  IMPORTANT NOTICE! *Because these auctions close
 during the week of
 the Christmas holiday and the week of the New Year's
 holiday, some of our
 staff will be away on vacation, and we imagine so will some
 of our buyers!
 This is also a *VERY *busy time at the Post Office and UPS,
 with many people
 sending last minute holiday gifts.  So, * PLEASE KNOW THAT
 IT IS FINE WITH
 US IF YOU WAIT TO PAY FOR YOUR PURCHASES FROM ANY OF THE
 FOUR PARTS OF THIS
 One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza UNTIL AFTER THE
 FINAL PART CLOSES ON
 JANUARY 1st * (although we ask that you please pay for your
 purchases
 promptly right after the last set of auctions closes, as we
 will be drowning
 in packages, and will need to get them sent!).  This
 waiting until the last
 auction closes is especially valuable to those of you
 who are likely to
 purchase from more than one part of the auction, because
 then we can send
 all those purchases together in a single package, thus
 saving you a lot of
 shipping cost! * Please be understanding of our having
 reduced staff during
 this holiday time, which may mean we take a little longer
 to answer e-mails
 or send orders

Re: [MOPO] CREDIT CRUNCH AND MOVIE POSTER HOBBY

2009-01-03 Thread Michael Greenwood
As a buyer and collector, I can't see what is bad about falling  
prices at all!  I'd love a cheap 50ft woman!


That said, as a collector of exploitation titles and stuff on the  
sleazier side of the scale, the posters I'm watching are still  
popping out of my, admittedly skinflintish, budgets.  The trash  
collecting part of this hobby seems to be staying healthy!


Take care,
Michael


On 3-Jan-09, at 3:01 PM, gary simmons wrote:


Is it just me or are things really bad?

Ive been paying attention to prices and it seems at BEST,...movie  
posters have plateaud and at worst are crashing.


I mean,.even the so called good stuff doesnt seem to be really that  
impressive anymore.


I wonder how much one could get for an Attack of the fifty foot  
woman poster or This Gun For Hire [0ne sheet].


I think its going to get worse.

:(


--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com  
wrote:



From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] FA: 1,998 posters in Parts III  IV of our end-of- 
year One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza ending 12/30  1/1!

To: mop...@sol03.american.edu
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 1:50 PM
* eMoviePoster.com's End-of-Year One-Sheet Auction
Extravaganza is half
over, but you STILL have 1,998 one-sheets to bid on ending
12/30  1/1!*
 One-sheets are the most popular size movie poster, and
we have been
consigned many thousands of them, and we have not been able
to keep up with
auctioning them, so we are holding this end-of-the-year
event (which we hope
will become an annual event!), as a way to help us
catch up on auctioning
the one-sheets we have been consigned (and you will find
lots and lots of
excellent titles contained within the thousands we are
auctioning).  With so
many posters being sold in such a short time, there is a
certainty that
there will be many deals, and likely some real
steals, even on better
titles!  We will be auctioning a total of 3,996 folded
one-sheets spread
over four auctions from 12/16 to 1/1 with *NO *duplication
between the four
auctions (there may be a few posters from the same titles,
but they are
different styles, or one is a re-release, or one is an
international
version, etc)!
*  IMPORTANT NOTICE! *Because these auctions close
during the week of
the Christmas holiday and the week of the New Year's
holiday, some of our
staff will be away on vacation, and we imagine so will some
of our buyers!
This is also a *VERY *busy time at the Post Office and UPS,
with many people
sending last minute holiday gifts.  So, * PLEASE KNOW THAT
IT IS FINE WITH
US IF YOU WAIT TO PAY FOR YOUR PURCHASES FROM ANY OF THE
FOUR PARTS OF THIS
One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza UNTIL AFTER THE
FINAL PART CLOSES ON
JANUARY 1st * (although we ask that you please pay for your
purchases
promptly right after the last set of auctions closes, as we
will be drowning
in packages, and will need to get them sent!).  This
waiting until the last
auction closes is especially valuable to those of you
who are likely to
purchase from more than one part of the auction, because
then we can send
all those purchases together in a single package, thus
saving you a lot of
shipping cost! * Please be understanding of our having
reduced staff during
this holiday time, which may mean we take a little longer
to answer e-mails
or send orders.*
--

* Register for our Auctions*
*Over 4,518 movie paper collectors have registered to bid
in our auctions,
but if you are one of the few movie paper collectors who
have not yet
registered to bid on our site, go
HEREhttp://auctions.emovieposter.com/Registration.tafto
do so.
*  You need to register separately for our auctions on our
own site, because
the auctions are managed by an auction software company,
and you need to
create your own user ID and password (of course, your ID
and password from
any other auction site won't work in our auctions!).
It only takes a couple
of minutes to do, and it is a one time thing, and thousands
of our customers
have already done so!
--

*Your money goes further with us!*
 In these uncertain economic times, doesn't it make
sense to spend your
money where it goes the absolute furthest? We auction
everything with a $1
opening bid and no reserves, so we truly sell many items
for just $1 or $2
or $3 (there are other auction places that have the nerve
to claim they sell
their items with $1 and no reserve like we do, but they
have a minimum $9
buyers premium, which means those $1, $2, and $3 posters
*ACTUALLY* cost you
$10, $11, and $12)! We have *NO* buyers premiums, and we
only charge the
actual cost of shipping (often less, when a buyer buys
multiple items). We
regularly give lots of great bonuses, often more valuable
than the items
required to qualify for them!
This week, we are selling a total of *1,998 folded
one-sheets *in our
Tuesday and Thursday auctions (in Parts III and IV of our
end-of-year
One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza), and it 

Re: [MOPO] CREDIT CRUNCH AND MOVIE POSTER HOBBY

2009-01-03 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art

I'd rather have a cheap 5 foot woman




At 01:22 PM 1/3/2009, Michael Greenwood wrote:

As a buyer and collector, I can't see what is bad about falling
prices at all!  I'd love a cheap 50ft woman!

That said, as a collector of exploitation titles and stuff on the
sleazier side of the scale, the posters I'm watching are still
popping out of my, admittedly skinflintish, budgets.  The trash
collecting part of this hobby seems to be staying healthy!

Take care,
Michael


On 3-Jan-09, at 3:01 PM, gary simmons wrote:


Is it just me or are things really bad?

Ive been paying attention to prices and it seems at BEST,...movie
posters have plateaud and at worst are crashing.

I mean,.even the so called good stuff doesnt seem to be really that
impressive anymore.

I wonder how much one could get for an Attack of the fifty foot
woman poster or This Gun For Hire [0ne sheet].

I think its going to get worse.

:(


--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com
wrote:


From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: [MOPO] FA: 1,998 posters in Parts III  IV of our end-of- 
year One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza ending 12/30  1/1!

To: mop...@sol03.american.edu
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 1:50 PM
* eMoviePoster.com's End-of-Year One-Sheet Auction
Extravaganza is half
over, but you STILL have 1,998 one-sheets to bid on ending
12/30  1/1!*
 One-sheets are the most popular size movie poster, and
we have been
consigned many thousands of them, and we have not been able
to keep up with
auctioning them, so we are holding this end-of-the-year
event (which we hope
will become an annual event!), as a way to help us
catch up on auctioning
the one-sheets we have been consigned (and you will find
lots and lots of
excellent titles contained within the thousands we are
auctioning).  With so
many posters being sold in such a short time, there is a
certainty that
there will be many deals, and likely some real
steals, even on better
titles!  We will be auctioning a total of 3,996 folded
one-sheets spread
over four auctions from 12/16 to 1/1 with *NO *duplication
between the four
auctions (there may be a few posters from the same titles,
but they are
different styles, or one is a re-release, or one is an
international
version, etc)!
*  IMPORTANT NOTICE! *Because these auctions close
during the week of
the Christmas holiday and the week of the New Year's
holiday, some of our
staff will be away on vacation, and we imagine so will some
of our buyers!
This is also a *VERY *busy time at the Post Office and UPS,
with many people
sending last minute holiday gifts.  So, * PLEASE KNOW THAT
IT IS FINE WITH
US IF YOU WAIT TO PAY FOR YOUR PURCHASES FROM ANY OF THE
FOUR PARTS OF THIS
One-Sheet Auction Extravaganza UNTIL AFTER THE
FINAL PART CLOSES ON
JANUARY 1st * (although we ask that you please pay for your
purchases
promptly right after the last set of auctions closes, as we
will be drowning
in packages, and will need to get them sent!).  This
waiting until the last
auction closes is especially valuable to those of you
who are likely to
purchase from more than one part of the auction, because
then we can send
all those purchases together in a single package, thus
saving you a lot of
shipping cost! * Please be understanding of our having
reduced staff during
this holiday time, which may mean we take a little longer
to answer e-mails
or send orders.*
--

* Register for our Auctions*
*Over 4,518 movie paper collectors have registered to bid
in our auctions,
but if you are one of the few movie paper collectors who
have not yet
registered to bid on our site, go
HEREhttp://auctions.emovieposter.com/Registration.tafto
do so.
*  You need to register separately for our auctions on our
own site, because
the auctions are managed by an auction software company,
and you need to
create your own user ID and password (of course, your ID
and password from
any other auction site won't work in our auctions!).
It only takes a couple
of minutes to do, and it is a one time thing, and thousands
of our customers
have already done so!
--

*Your money goes further with us!*
 In these uncertain economic times, doesn't it make
sense to spend your
money where it goes the absolute furthest? We auction
everything with a $1
opening bid and no reserves, so we truly sell many items
for just $1 or $2
or $3 (there are other auction places that have the nerve
to claim they sell
their items with $1 and no reserve like we do, but they
have a minimum $9
buyers premium, which means those $1, $2, and $3 posters
*ACTUALLY* cost you
$10, $11, and $12)! We have *NO* buyers premiums, and we
only charge the
actual cost of shipping (often less, when a buyer buys
multiple items). We
regularly give lots of great bonuses, often more valuable
than the items
required to qualify for them!
This week, we are selling a total of *1,998 folded
one-sheets *in our
Tuesday and Thursday auctions (in Parts