Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
christies did indeed have a lot of changes , at the end i got to deal with 4 different persons in 2 months , Rachel reilly told me of troubles Inside christies with major changes , when she went to another department she gave me new contactinfo , after 2 emails with that person i was referred to someone else who didn't even reply to my email and then i got (after calling christies) another person where everything got so messed up that i decided to stop dealing with them . As for my french goldfinger they 'lost' in the stock at some point i got an email with a picture of an italian bond poster asking me if that was my poster ... so they don't have a clue what a french goldfinger looks like and they can't tell italian from french ??? Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:15:23 -0500 From: ki...@movieart.net Subject: Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Well, I agree with you entirely. Nevertheless, incompetence and mendacity are two different things. When you pointed out these gaffes to Caitlin Graham,Christies did make an effort to clarify this. Did Caitlin know this historical facts of this? It seems that Christies have changed consultants or experts or whateverit is that you wish to call them several times in the last several years. Did they school her on this issue? Admittedly the OUTLAW six sheet is a notorious case in point. I've noticed, however, aremarkable willingness to accuse people of intentional dishonesty quickly, especially when it comes to auction house personnel. Kirby McDanielMovieArt Original Film PostersP.O. Box 4419Austin TX 78765-4419512 479 6680 www.movieart.netmobile 512 589 5112 On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:Perhaps, but neither look good on a company masthead. On 28 Apr 2013, at 17:37, Kirby McDaniel wrote: Neil, et al: I think you might be mistaking ignorance and carelessness for duplicity. Just a thought. Kirby Kirby McDanielMovieArt Original Film PostersP.O. Box 4419Austin TX 78765-4419512 479 6680 www.movieart.netmobile 512 589 5112 On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:01 AM, Adrian Cowdry wrote:Ahh the old Outlaw six sheet ploy eh? Well now how many is this or have we had a resubmission on this poster? Has the original buyer of the first poster been made aware that he does not have the only copy in existence? Did Christies make a gaff with the selling of the others? Is iignorance bliss or are they just being tight lipped? Do the Christies experts actually know about posters or are they just art students given a position at a well known auction house? Do we care? For answers look out next time at the same bat time on the same bat channel. This never happened to the other fella... Adrian Cowdry -Original Message- From: Neil Jaworski To: MoPo-L Sent: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:36 Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh Hallo MOPO So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've seen for sale hundreds of time before. I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as a US insert. Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other copies of this poster. And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. Cheers Neil http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat - Forwarded Message - From: "Graham, Caitlin" To: Neil Jaworski Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Mr Jaworski, Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There is a
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
I think Christies is a positive influence on the education of our history. They are very generous in allowing rare poster images to be scanned for various projects. -Daniel Kinske On Apr 28, 2013, at 10:40, Bruce Hershenson wrote: > As Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof said, "What's that smell in this room? > Didn't you notice it Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor > of mendacity in this room?...There ain't nothin' more powerful than the odor > of mendacity...You can smell it. It smells like death." > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjEgm9e893U > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Kirby McDaniel wrote: >> Well, I agree with you entirely. Nevertheless, incompetence and mendacity >> are two different things. When you pointed out these gaffes to Caitlin >> Graham, >> Christies did make an effort to clarify this. Did Caitlin know this >> historical facts of this? It seems that Christies have changed consultants >> or experts or whatever >> it is that you wish to call them several times in the last several years. >> Did they school her on this issue? Admittedly the OUTLAW six sheet is a >> notorious case in point. I've noticed, however, a >> remarkable willingness to accuse people of intentional dishonesty quickly, >> especially when it comes to auction house personnel. >> Kirby McDaniel >> MovieArt Original Film Posters >> P.O. Box 4419 >> Austin TX 78765-4419 >> 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net >> mobile 512 589 5112 >> >> On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote: >> >>> Perhaps, but neither look good on a company masthead. >>> >>> On 28 Apr 2013, at 17:37, Kirby McDaniel wrote: >>> >>>> Neil, et al: >>>> >>>> I think you might be mistaking ignorance and carelessness for duplicity. >>>> Just a thought. >>>> >>>> Kirby >>>> >>>> >>>> Kirby McDaniel >>>> MovieArt Original Film Posters >>>> P.O. Box 4419 >>>> Austin TX 78765-4419 >>>> 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net >>>> mobile 512 589 5112 >>>> >>>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:01 AM, Adrian Cowdry wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ahh the old Outlaw six sheet ploy eh? Well now how many is this or have >>>>> we had a resubmission on this poster? Has the original buyer of the >>>>> first poster been made aware that he does not have the only copy in >>>>> existence? Did Christies make a gaff with the selling of the others? Is >>>>> iignorance bliss or are they just being tight lipped? Do the Christies >>>>> experts actually know about posters or are they just art students given a >>>>> position at a well known auction house? Do we care? >>>>> >>>>> For answers look out next time at the same bat time on the same bat >>>>> channel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This never happened to the other fella... >>>>> >>>>> Adrian Cowdry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Neil Jaworski >>>>> To: MoPo-L >>>>> Sent: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:36 >>>>> Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh >>>>> >>>>> Hallo MOPO >>>>> >>>>> So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now >>>>> online (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters >>>>> that we've seen for sale hundreds of time before. >>>>> >>>>> I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was >>>>> interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill >>>>> as a US insert. >>>>> >>>>> Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where >>>>> are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time >>>>> this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this >>>>> poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over >>>>> £50,000." >>>>> >>>>> A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because >>>>> Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed >>>>> the oth
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
As Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof said, "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?...There ain't nothin' more powerful than the odor of mendacity...You can smell it. It smells like death." *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjEgm9e893U* On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Kirby McDaniel wrote: > Well, I agree with you entirely. Nevertheless, incompetence and mendacity > are two different things. When you pointed out these gaffes to Caitlin > Graham, > Christies did make an effort to clarify this. Did Caitlin know this > historical facts of this? It seems that Christies have changed consultants > or experts or whatever > it is that you wish to call them several times in the last several years. > Did they school her on this issue? Admittedly the OUTLAW six sheet is a > notorious case in point. I've noticed, however, a > remarkable willingness to accuse people of intentional dishonesty quickly, > especially when it comes to auction house personnel. > Kirby McDaniel > MovieArt Original Film Posters > P.O. Box 4419 > Austin TX 78765-4419 > 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net > mobile 512 589 5112 > > On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Neil Jaworski > wrote: > > Perhaps, but neither look good on a company masthead. > > On 28 Apr 2013, at 17:37, Kirby McDaniel wrote: > > Neil, et al: > > I think you might be mistaking ignorance and carelessness for duplicity. > Just a thought. > > Kirby > > > Kirby McDaniel > MovieArt Original Film Posters > P.O. Box 4419 > Austin TX 78765-4419 > 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net > mobile 512 589 5112 > > On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:01 AM, Adrian Cowdry wrote: > > Ahh the old Outlaw six sheet ploy eh? Well now how many is this or have > we had a resubmission on this poster? Has the original buyer of the > first poster been made aware that he does not have the only copy in existence? > Did Christies make a gaff with the selling of the others? Is iignorancebliss > or are they > just being tight lipped? Do the Christies experts actually know about > posters or are they just art students given a position at a well known > auction house? Do we care? > > For answers look out next time at the same bat time on the same bat > channel. > > > This never happened to the other fella... > > Adrian Cowdry > > > > -Original Message- > From: Neil Jaworski > To: MoPo-L > Sent: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:36 > Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh > > Hallo MOPO > > So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now > online (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that > we've seen for sale hundreds of time before. > > I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it > was interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian > Daybill as a US insert. > > Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where > are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time > this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster > was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." > > A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because > Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed > the other copies of this poster. > > And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin > "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in > a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. > > Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. > There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them > now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. > > Cheers > > Neil > > > > http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat > > > > - Forwarded Message - > *From:* "Graham, Caitlin" > *To:* Neil Jaworski > *Sent:* Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 > *Subject:* RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 > > Dear Mr Jaworski, > > Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There > is a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet > updated on Christies.com <http://christies.com/> but will do overnight. > > Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. >
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
Well, I agree with you entirely. Nevertheless, incompetence and mendacity are two different things. When you pointed out these gaffes to Caitlin Graham, Christies did make an effort to clarify this. Did Caitlin know this historical facts of this? It seems that Christies have changed consultants or experts or whatever it is that you wish to call them several times in the last several years. Did they school her on this issue? Admittedly the OUTLAW six sheet is a notorious case in point. I've noticed, however, a remarkable willingness to accuse people of intentional dishonesty quickly, especially when it comes to auction house personnel. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote: > Perhaps, but neither look good on a company masthead. > > On 28 Apr 2013, at 17:37, Kirby McDaniel wrote: > >> Neil, et al: >> >> I think you might be mistaking ignorance and carelessness for duplicity. >> Just a thought. >> >> Kirby >> >> >> Kirby McDaniel >> MovieArt Original Film Posters >> P.O. Box 4419 >> Austin TX 78765-4419 >> 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net >> mobile 512 589 5112 >> >> On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:01 AM, Adrian Cowdry wrote: >> >>> Ahh the old Outlaw six sheet ploy eh? Well now how many is this or have we >>> had a resubmission on this poster? Has the original buyer of the first >>> poster been made aware that he does not have the only copy in existence? >>> Did Christies make a gaff with the selling of the others? Is iignorance >>> bliss or are they just being tight lipped? Do the Christies experts >>> actually know about posters or are they just art students given a position >>> at a well known auction house? Do we care? >>> >>> For answers look out next time at the same bat time on the same bat channel. >>> >>> >>> This never happened to the other fella... >>> >>> Adrian Cowdry >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Neil Jaworski >>> To: MoPo-L >>> Sent: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:36 >>> Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh >>> >>> Hallo MOPO >>> >>> So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online >>> (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've >>> seen for sale hundreds of time before. >>> >>> I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was >>> interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as >>> a US insert. >>> >>> Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where >>> are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time >>> this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster >>> was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." >>> >>> A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies >>> encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other >>> copies of this poster. >>> >>> And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin >>> "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in >>> a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. >>> >>> Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. >>> There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them >>> now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat >>> >>> >>> >>> - Forwarded Message - >>> From: "Graham, Caitlin" >>> To: Neil Jaworski >>> Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 >>> Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 >>> >>> Dear Mr Jaworski, >>> >>> Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There >>> is a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet >>> updated on Christies.com but will do overnight.
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
Guess we all should have paid more attention in grade school ;) On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:01, Doug Taylor wrote: > Grading is always a debated topic, but I’m not sure anyone in the biz grades > as “broadly” as Christies. I’m always skeptical about buying from them if I > haven’t personally inspected the poster. > > Regards > > DBT > Profile > > From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of filip de > volder > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:58 AM > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh > > i stopped working with them , they "lost" my french 007 goldfinger > linenbacked poster in their stock , put my original sex pistols and ramones > 1977 concert posters in their catalogue with wrong venue ( how they did that > with the venue printed on the poster is beyond me) stated them as from > somewhere in the 1980s , had an unsold poster go to cadogan tate storage > (instead of returning it to me) unable to get it back with a bill that was > going up to 700£ etc etc ...filip > > Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:36:32 -0700 > From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > > Hallo MOPO > > So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online > (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've > seen for sale hundreds of time before. > > I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was > interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as a > US insert. > > Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where are > all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time this > poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was > offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." > > A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies > encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other > copies of this poster. > > And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin > "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in a > debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. > > Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. > There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them > now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. > > Cheers > > Neil > > > http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat > > > > - Forwarded Message - > From: "Graham, Caitlin" > To: Neil Jaworski > Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 > Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 > > Dear Mr Jaworski, > > Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There is > a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet updated on > Christies.com but will do overnight. > > Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. > > Kind regards, > Caitlin > > Caitlin Graham > Pop Culture > CHRISTIE'S > 85 Old Brompton Road > London SW7 3LD > Tel: +44 (0)20 7752 3275 > Fax: +44 (0)20 7752 3184 > > > From: Neil Jaworski [mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: 24 April 2013 23:27 > To: Graham, Caitlin > Subject: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 > > Dear Caitlin Graham > > The Casablanca poster that you're claiming is a US insert (Lot 238) is > clearly an Australian poster. > > Also, I was disappointed to see your narrative for The Outlaw 6sheet (Lot > 239) "This is only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at > Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in > 2004, it realised over £50,000." > > I think this description must redefine the term chutzpah. The 2004 Outlaw > 6sh only realised that price when Christies encouraged the consignor of the > poster to publicly state that they had destroyed other copies of this poster. > > > This was after it had transpired that the consignor actually had several > Outlaw 6sheets, which embarrassingly contradicted the "only known copy" > assertion in your 2004 catalogue. > > Your latest catalogue's grinning wink to this shameful episode is shabby and >
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
The Casablanca listing was not corrected "overnight" as far as I can see. Lot 238 is still showing as a framed US insert 14" x 36" when it is obviously an Australian Daybill 13" x 30". I also hope that they have actually verified that the poster was not stuck down to the backing board by the framer. That happens all the time and the only way to be sure is to take it out of the frame and check. http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat Regards John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com www.OzeAuction.com www.BodyCorporateNews.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Neil Jaworski To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh Hallo MOPO So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've seen for sale hundreds of time before. I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as a US insert. Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other copies of this poster. And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. Cheers Neil http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat - Forwarded Message - From: "Graham, Caitlin" To: Neil Jaworski Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Mr Jaworski, Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There is a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet updated on Christies.com but will do overnight. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. Kind regards, Caitlin Caitlin Graham Pop Culture CHRISTIE'S 85 Old Brompton Road London SW7 3LD Tel: +44 (0)20 7752 3275 Fax: +44 (0)20 7752 3184 From: Neil Jaworski [mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 24 April 2013 23:27 To: Graham, Caitlin Subject: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Caitlin Graham The Casablanca poster that you're claiming is a US insert (Lot 238) is clearly an Australian poster. Also, I was disappointed to see your narrative for The Outlaw 6sheet (Lot 239) "This is only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." I think this description must redefine the term chutzpah. The 2004 Outlaw 6sh only realised that price when Christies encouraged the consignor of the poster to publicly state that they had destroyed other copies of this poster. This was after it had transpired that the consignor actually had several Outlaw 6sheets, which embarrassingly contradicted the "only known copy" assertion in your 2004 catalogue. Your latest catalogue's grinning wink to this shameful episode is shabby and ludicrous. Regards Neil Jaworski - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit www.christies.com to explore special multi-media sale promotions, browse our illustrated catalogues and leave absentee bids through LotFinder(R), Christie's online search engine, and register for Internet bidding with Christie's Live(TM). This message and any attachment are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to
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I'll add, that they continue listing Chelsea Girls double crown second printings with delicately disingenuous, (although still factually inaccurate), descriptions. On 27 Apr 2013, at 19:36, Bruce Hershenson wrote: > Gee, tough crowd. > > "But other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the show?" > > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Doug Taylor > wrote: > Grading is always a debated topic, but I’m not sure anyone in the biz grades > as “broadly” as Christies. I’m always skeptical about buying from them if I > haven’t personally inspected the poster. > > > > Regards > > > > DBT > > Profile > > > > From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of filip de > volder > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:58 AM > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh > > > > i stopped working with them , they "lost" my french 007 goldfinger > linenbacked poster in their stock , put my original sex pistols and ramones > 1977 concert posters in their catalogue with wrong venue ( how they did that > with the venue printed on the poster is beyond me) stated them as from > somewhere in the 1980s , had an unsold poster go to cadogan tate storage > (instead of returning it to me) unable to get it back with a bill that was > going up to 700£ etc etc ... filip > > > Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:36:32 -0700 > From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > > Hallo MOPO > > > > So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online > (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've > seen for sale hundreds of time before. > > > > I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was > interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as a > US insert. > > > > Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where are > all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time this > poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was > offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." > > > > A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies > encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other > copies of this poster. > > > > And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin > "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in a > debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. > > > > Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. > There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them > now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. > > > > Cheers > > > > Neil > > > > > > http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat > > > > > > > > - Forwarded Message - > From: "Graham, Caitlin" > To: Neil Jaworski > Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 > Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 > > > > Dear Mr Jaworski, > > > > Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There is > a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet updated on > Christies.com but will do overnight. > > > > Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. > > > > Kind regards, > > Caitlin > > > > Caitlin Graham > > Pop Culture > > CHRISTIE'S > > 85 Old Brompton Road > > London SW7 3LD > > Tel: +44 (0)20 7752 3275 > > Fax: +44 (0)20 7752 3184 > > > > > > From: Neil Jaworski [mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: 24 April 2013 23:27 > To: Graham, Caitlin > Subject: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 > > > > Dear Caitlin Graham > > > > The Casablanca poster that you're claiming is a US insert (Lot 238) is > clearly an Australian poster. > > > > Also, I was disappointed to see your narrative for The Outlaw 6sheet (Lot > 239) "This is only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at > Christies. The last time this poster was offered for
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
Gee, tough crowd. "But other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the show?" On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Doug Taylor wrote: > Grading is always a debated topic, but I’m not sure anyone in the biz > grades as “broadly” as Christies. I’m always skeptical about buying from > them if I haven’t personally inspected the poster. > > ** ** > > Regards > > ** ** > > DBT > > Profile <http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor> > > ** ** > > *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *filip > de volder > *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:58 AM > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh > > ** ** > > i stopped working with them , they "lost" my french 007 goldfinger > linenbacked poster in their stock , put my original sex pistols and > ramones 1977 concert posters in their catalogue with wrong venue ( how they > did that with the venue printed on the poster is beyond me) stated them as > from somewhere in the 1980s , had an unsold poster go to cadogan tate > storage (instead of returning it to me) unable to get it back with a bill > that was going up to 700£ etc etc ...filip > **** > -------------- > > Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:36:32 -0700 > From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > > Hallo MOPO > > ** ** > > So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online > (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've > seen for sale hundreds of time before. > > ** ** > > I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it > was interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian > Daybill as a US insert. > > ** ** > > Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where > are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as *"...only the third time > this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster > was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000."*** > ** > > ** ** > > A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price *because > Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed > the other copies of this poster.* > > ** ** > > And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin > "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in > a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. > > ** ** > > Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. > There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them > now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. > > ** ** > > Cheers > > ** ** > > Neil > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat > > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > - Forwarded Message - > *From:* "Graham, Caitlin" > *To:* Neil Jaworski > *Sent:* Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 > *Subject:* RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 > > ** ** > > Dear Mr Jaworski, > > > > Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There > is a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet > updated on Christies.com but will do overnight. > > > > Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance.*** > * > > > > Kind regards, > > Caitlin > > > > *Caitlin Graham* > > *Pop Culture * > > *CHRISTIE'S* > > *85 Old Brompton Road* > > *London SW7 3LD* > > *Tel: +44 (0)20 7752 3275* > > *Fax: +44 (0)20 7752 3184* > > > > > > *From:* Neil Jaworski > [mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk] > > *Sent:* 24 April 2013 23:27 > *To:* Graham, Caitlin > *Subject:* ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 > > > > Dear Caitlin Graham > > > > The Casablanca poster that you're claiming is a US insert (Lot 238) is > clearly an Australian poster. > > > > Also, I was disappointed to see your narrative for The Outlaw 6sheet (Lot > 239) "This is only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at >
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
Grading is always a debated topic, but Im not sure anyone in the biz grades as broadly as Christies. Im always skeptical about buying from them if I havent personally inspected the poster. Regards DBT <http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor> Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of filip de volder Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:58 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh i stopped working with them , they "lost" my french 007 goldfinger linenbacked poster in their stock , put my original sex pistols and ramones 1977 concert posters in their catalogue with wrong venue ( how they did that with the venue printed on the poster is beyond me) stated them as from somewhere in the 1980s , had an unsold poster go to cadogan tate storage (instead of returning it to me) unable to get it back with a bill that was going up to 700£ etc etc ...filip _ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:36:32 -0700 From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Hallo MOPO So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've seen for sale hundreds of time before. I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as a US insert. Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other copies of this poster. And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. Cheers Neil <http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christie s&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Chr isties/CSK8843_SaleCat> http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies &sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Chri sties/CSK8843_SaleCat - Forwarded Message - From: "Graham, Caitlin" To: Neil Jaworski Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Mr Jaworski, Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There is a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet updated on Christies.com but will do overnight. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. Kind regards, Caitlin Caitlin Graham Pop Culture CHRISTIE'S 85 Old Brompton Road London SW7 3LD Tel: +44 (0)20 7752 3275 Fax: +44 (0)20 7752 3184 From: Neil Jaworski [mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 24 April 2013 23:27 To: Graham, Caitlin Subject: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Caitlin Graham The Casablanca poster that you're claiming is a US insert (Lot 238) is clearly an Australian poster. Also, I was disappointed to see your narrative for The Outlaw 6sheet (Lot 239) "This is only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." I think this description must redefine the term chutzpah. The 2004 Outlaw 6sh only realised that price when Christies encouraged the consignor of the poster to publicly state that they had destroyed other copies of this poster. This was after it had transpired that the consignor actually had several Outlaw 6sheets, which embarrassingly contradicted the "only known copy" assertion in your 2004 catalogue. Your latest catalogue's grinning wink to this shameful episode is shabby and ludicrous. Regards Neil Jaworski - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit www.christies.com <http://www.christies.com/> to explore special multi-media sale promotions, browse our illustrated catalogues and leave absentee bids through LotFinder(R), Christie's online search engine, and register for Internet bidding with Christie&#
Re: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
i stopped working with them , they "lost" my french 007 goldfinger linenbacked poster in their stock , put my original sex pistols and ramones 1977 concert posters in their catalogue with wrong venue ( how they did that with the venue printed on the poster is beyond me) stated them as from somewhere in the 1980s , had an unsold poster go to cadogan tate storage (instead of returning it to me) unable to get it back with a bill that was going up to 700£ etc etc ... filip Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:36:32 -0700 From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Hallo MOPO So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've seen for sale hundreds of time before. I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as a US insert. Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other copies of this poster. And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. Cheers Neil http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat - Forwarded Message - From: "Graham, Caitlin" To: Neil Jaworski Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Mr Jaworski, Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There is a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet updated on Christies.com but will do overnight. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. Kind regards, Caitlin Caitlin Graham Pop Culture CHRISTIE'S 85 Old Brompton Road London SW7 3LD Tel: +44 (0)20 7752 3275 Fax: +44 (0)20 7752 3184 From: Neil Jaworski [mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 24 April 2013 23:27 To: Graham, Caitlin Subject: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Caitlin Graham The Casablanca poster that you're claiming is a US insert (Lot 238) is clearly an Australian poster. Also, I was disappointed to see your narrative for The Outlaw 6sheet (Lot 239) "This is only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." I think this description must redefine the term chutzpah. The 2004 Outlaw 6sh only realised that price when Christies encouraged the consignor of the poster to publicly state that they had destroyed other copies of this poster. This was after it had transpired that the consignor actually had several Outlaw 6sheets, which embarrassingly contradicted the "only known copy" assertion in your 2004 catalogue. Your latest catalogue's grinning wink to this shameful episode is shabby and ludicrous. Regards Neil Jaworski - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit www.christies.com to explore special multi-media sale promotions, browse our illustrated catalogues and leave absentee bids through LotFinder(R), Christie's online search engine, and register for Internet bidding with Christie's Live(TM). This message and any attachment are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely r
[MOPO] Christies June Auction & THE OUTLAW 6sh
Hallo MOPO So the Christies digital version of their May Sale Catalogue is now online (link below) and chock-a-block with dozens of brilliant posters that we've seen for sale hundreds of time before. I haven't had time to go through it all in great detail, but it was interesting to see them try and palm-off a Casablanca Australian Daybill as a US insert. Even more mischievously, they describe their latest Outlaw 6sheet (where are all these Outlaw 6sheets coming from?!?) as "...only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." A cynic might point out that it only achieved this price because Christies encouraged the 2004 consignor to claim that they had destroyed the other copies of this poster. And a cynic did point this out (see below) to their expert Caitlin "Stonewall" Graham, who didn't seem that thrilled about getting involved in a debate with me. Maybe she's a bit shy. Anyway, Christies are having a poster sale, so check out their posters. There are some "possibly only known copies" of various posters so get them now or miss out forever! Or at least until the next Christies sale. Cheers Neil http://christies.scene7.com/s7/brochure/flash_brochure.jsp?company=Christies&sku=CSK8843_SaleCat&config=Christies/eCat_210x267_Full&locale=en&image=Christies/CSK8843_SaleCat - Forwarded Message - From: "Graham, Caitlin" To: Neil Jaworski Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 9:43 Subject: RE: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Mr Jaworski, Thank you for your email regarding the cataloguing error on Lot 238. There is a saleroom notice on this lot to correct the error. It has not yet updated on Christies.com but will do overnight. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. Kind regards, Caitlin Caitlin Graham Pop Culture CHRISTIE'S 85 Old Brompton Road London SW7 3LD Tel: +44 (0)20 7752 3275 Fax: +44 (0)20 7752 3184 From:Neil Jaworski [mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 24 April 2013 23:27 To: Graham, Caitlin Subject: ecatalogue error Lot 238 and Lot 239 Dear Caitlin Graham The Casablanca poster that you're claiming is a US insert (Lot 238) is clearly an Australian poster. Also, I was disappointed to see your narrative for The Outlaw 6sheet (Lot 239) "This is only the third time this poster has appeared for sale at Christies. The last time this poster was offered for sale in these rooms in 2004, it realised over £50,000." I think this description must redefine the term chutzpah. The 2004 Outlaw 6sh only realised that price when Christies encouraged the consignor of the poster to publicly state that they had destroyed other copies of this poster. This was after it had transpired that the consignor actually had several Outlaw 6sheets, which embarrassingly contradicted the "only known copy" assertion in your 2004 catalogue. Your latest catalogue's grinning wink to this shameful episode is shabby and ludicrous. Regards Neil Jaworski - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit www.christies.com to explore special multi-media sale promotions, browse our illustrated catalogues and leave absentee bids through LotFinder(R), Christie's online search engine, and register for Internet bidding with Christie's Live(TM). This message and any attachment are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
