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Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Yes it's not heroic, but it is tragic in the Greek classical sense. Especially since it seems he was able to kick the habit for a long time. He struggled and lost. Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:42 AM, Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com wrote: Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.comwrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody's problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called war on drugs is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad -- *From:* Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. *This Never Happened to the Other Fella* Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.comwrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody's problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called war on drugs is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad -- *From:* Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. *This Never Happened to the Other Fella* Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 29 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our
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I didn't used to feel this way, but now I do. I think drugs, violence, etc depicted in film/TV desensitizes the viewers over time and has resulted in a level of tolerance that contributes to the problems we're seeing today. I never would have said that 20 years ago, but I believe it now. Regards DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com mailto:tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com mailto:movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody's problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called war on drugs is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com mailto:aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad _ From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com mailto:jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com mailto:jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com mailto:rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type
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I think it's more of an artistic world where smoking, boozing and getting high is seen as making you a more interesting, serious and legitimate actor. In the NY theatre world I was constantly hassled because I didn't smoke or drink. I'm very allergic to cigarettes and the crap I got for avoiding them was often painful. We saw his Willy Loman on Broadway and he was wonderful. To find out that he was only about 15 years older than the actor who played his son is mind-boggling. I had no idea he was so young. So sad for all. Toochis From: Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP I didn’t used to feel this way, but now I do. I think drugs, violence, etc depicted in film/TV desensitizes the viewers over time and has resulted in a level of tolerance that contributes to the problems we’re seeing today. I never would have said that 20 years ago, but I believe it now. Regards DBT Profile From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From:Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo
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I’m not sure that film/tv makes “light” of hard drug use. They certainly feature it as a plot element a lot. They do make light of pot, I think. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com wrote: I didn’t used to feel this way, but now I do. I think drugs, violence, etc depicted in film/TV desensitizes the viewers over time and has resulted in a level of tolerance that contributes to the problems we’re seeing today. I never would have said that 20 years ago, but I believe it now. Regards DBT Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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Agree, Toochis. I think he could play almost anything. A great loss of acting talent at too young an age. Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:48:18 -0800 From: fly...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I think it's more of an artistic world where smoking, boozing and getting high is seen as making you a more interesting, serious and legitimate actor. In the NY theatre world I was constantly hassled because I didn't smoke or drink. I'm very allergic to cigarettes and the crap I got for avoiding them was often painful. We saw his Willy Loman on Broadway and he was wonderful. To find out that he was only about 15 years older than the actor who played his son is mind-boggling. I had no idea he was so young. So sad for all. Toochis From: Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP I didn’t used to feel this way, but now I do.I think drugs, violence, etc depicted in film/TV desensitizes the viewers over time and has resulted in a level of tolerance that contributes to the problems we’re seeing today. I never would have said that 20 years ago, but I believe it now. Regards DBTProfile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote:Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote:Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I mighthave for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of actingis diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And takingthe profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, butit would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com-Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIPA tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed
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Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? Yes, I think it does contribute. Take the The Wolf of Wall Street, for example, where most of the cast are seen continually using drugs. That film certainly makes light of drug use without really demonstrating the dire effects of addiction. All of the characters seem to be able to cope with taking any amount of substance and when they do go too far those scenes are depicted as comical. John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com www.OzeAuction.com www.BodyCorporateNews.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody's problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called war on drugs is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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I really wonder if we saw the same film. These characters seem to be imploding before our very eyes! But, yes, they use comedy to underscore their obvious excess. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:55 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com wrote: Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? Yes, I think it does contribute. Take the The Wolf of Wall Street, for example, where most of the cast are seen continually using drugs. That film certainly makes light of drug use without really demonstrating the dire effects of addiction. All of the characters seem to be able to cope with taking any amount of substance and when they do go too far those scenes are depicted as comical. John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com www.OzeAuction.com www.BodyCorporateNews.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site
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I was thinking more of Weeds and Breaking Bad. In neither case does the lead character show any remorse for ruining the lives of the people they sell to. Their attitude is if they don't get it from me, they will get it from somewhere else, so what is the big deal?. I also was thinking of the many Kato Kaelin-like dope dealers who hang out with celebrities and supply them with drugs. Most celebrities handle that fine, but then there are the Belushis and John Candys who have no self-control, and the endless exposure to people happy to supply them with drugs to get close to a famous person does them in. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.com wrote: I really wonder if we saw the same film. These characters seem to be imploding before our very eyes! But, yes, they use comedy to underscore their obvious excess. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:55 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com wrote: *Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all?* Yes, I think it does contribute. Take the The Wolf of Wall Street, for example, where most of the cast are seen continually using drugs. That film certainly makes light of drug use without really demonstrating the dire effects of addiction. All of the characters seem to be able to cope with taking any amount of substance and when they do go too far those scenes are depicted as comical. John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com http://www.ozefilm.com/ www.OzeAuction.com http://www.ozeauction.com/ www.BodyCorporateNews.com http://www.bodycorporatenews.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - *From:* Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:31 AM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody's problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called war on drugs is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad -- *From:* Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. *This Never Happened to the Other Fella* Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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*SIXTY FIVE* bags of heroin? Good lord? *http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/philip-seymour-hoffman-50-bags-heroin-police/story?id=22342702 http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/philip-seymour-hoffman-50-bags-heroin-police/story?id=22342702* On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.comwrote: I was thinking more of Weeds and Breaking Bad. In neither case does the lead character show any remorse for ruining the lives of the people they sell to. Their attitude is if they don't get it from me, they will get it from somewhere else, so what is the big deal?. I also was thinking of the many Kato Kaelin-like dope dealers who hang out with celebrities and supply them with drugs. Most celebrities handle that fine, but then there are the Belushis and John Candys who have no self-control, and the endless exposure to people happy to supply them with drugs to get close to a famous person does them in. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.com wrote: I really wonder if we saw the same film. These characters seem to be imploding before our very eyes! But, yes, they use comedy to underscore their obvious excess. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:55 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com wrote: *Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all?* Yes, I think it does contribute. Take the The Wolf of Wall Street, for example, where most of the cast are seen continually using drugs. That film certainly makes light of drug use without really demonstrating the dire effects of addiction. All of the characters seem to be able to cope with taking any amount of substance and when they do go too far those scenes are depicted as comical. John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com http://www.ozefilm.com/ www.OzeAuction.com http://www.ozeauction.com/ www.BodyCorporateNews.com http://www.bodycorporatenews.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - *From:* Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:31 AM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody's problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called war on drugs is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad -- *From:* Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. *This Never
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Well, their careers certainly imploded before our very eyes but they never really showed the physical effects of the drugs. And their careers imploded because they were breaking the law and ripping people off. The reality is that many who use drugs to excess ultimately end up with severe physical scars from which they never recover. The Wolf of Wall Street portrayed drug taking as a recreation essential to do business and generally get through life. Not sure if the drug use of Jordan Belfort might have been exaggerated in the film but you have to wonder if someone could withstand that sort of excessive abuse. That being said, I enjoyed the film - although it wasnt in the same league as Goodfellas (in my humble opinion!). Regards John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com www.OzeAuction.com www.BodyCorporateNews.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel To: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Cc: MOPO Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP I really wonder if we saw the same film. These characters seem to be imploding before our very eyes! But, yes, they use comedy to underscore their obvious excess. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:55 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com wrote: Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? Yes, I think it does contribute. Take the The Wolf of Wall Street, for example, where most of the cast are seen continually using drugs. That film certainly makes light of drug use without really demonstrating the dire effects of addiction. All of the characters seem to be able to cope with taking any amount of substance and when they do go too far those scenes are depicted as comical. John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com www.OzeAuction.com www.BodyCorporateNews.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From
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Have you ever BEEN to Costco? On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote: SIXTY FIVE bags of heroin? Good lord? http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/philip-seymour-hoffman-50-bags-heroin-police/story?id=22342702 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking more of Weeds and Breaking Bad. In neither case does the lead character show any remorse for ruining the lives of the people they sell to. Their attitude is if they don't get it from me, they will get it from somewhere else, so what is the big deal?. I also was thinking of the many Kato Kaelin-like dope dealers who hang out with celebrities and supply them with drugs. Most celebrities handle that fine, but then there are the Belushis and John Candys who have no self-control, and the endless exposure to people happy to supply them with drugs to get close to a famous person does them in. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.com wrote: I really wonder if we saw the same film. These characters seem to be imploding before our very eyes! But, yes, they use comedy to underscore their obvious excess. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:55 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com wrote: Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? Yes, I think it does contribute. Take the The Wolf of Wall Street, for example, where most of the cast are seen continually using drugs. That film certainly makes light of drug use without really demonstrating the dire effects of addiction. All of the characters seem to be able to cope with taking any amount of substance and when they do go too far those scenes are depicted as comical. John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Websites: www.moviemem.com www.OzeFilm.com www.OzeAuction.com www.BodyCorporateNews.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/moviemem Mailing Address: John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Does movies and TV making light of drug use and drug dealing contribute at all? And peer pressure is a real factor. If you are around a group of people who think it is cool to do hard drugs, are you not far more likely to be drawn into it yourself? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com
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Ditto! The fact that drugs are illegal never stopped anyone from doing drugs! And I make a living, in part, on illegal drugs. Chris Quarles Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message
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Maybe Mr. Belfort didn’t look that bad after ingesting all that stuff! I think they tried to make Leonard DiCaprio somewhat the worse for wear. Also, some people can do prodigious amounts of drugs and it just doesn’t affect them in the way it does other folks, who just crater. Think of Richard Burton and his drinking. I would fall down with a godawful migraine after three cocktails, let alone a fifth of Scotch! Having said all this, WOLF is entertaining, but the film covers much of the same territory as GOODFELLAS and CASINO. The real subject - which to some extent IS celebrated - is excess. It’s like GOODFELLAS GO TO WALL STREET. K. On Feb 3, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Chris Quarles chrisquar...@yahoo.com wrote: Ditto! The fact that drugs are illegal never stopped anyone from doing drugs! And I make a living, in part, on illegal drugs. Chris Quarles Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Johnson Tom tmjbr...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, Kirby. Couldn't have put it better. Also, Hoffman's brilliance and his ability to project inner suffering and a tragic tone onto the screen in all his portrayals had everything to do with who he was and what he was up against personally, and everything to do with his very sad and unfortunate end. He was among the most gifted and endearing actors I've ever watched, and I will sorely miss the decades of work I was looking forward to. -Tom On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Kirby McDaniel movieartaus...@gmail.com wrote: Phiip Seymour Hoffman has left behind a body of work that I cannot help but admire. That is separate from any admiration I might have for him personally - or not. I did not KNOW him. His drug addiction has robbed us of another artist. The profession of acting is diminished by his death. When he appeared in a film, I could go to that film, knowing that his performance would always be interesting. Drug addiction is everybody’s problem. Incarceration is not the answer. Education is the first line of defense, as with most problems. And taking the profit out of dealing in illicit drugs by the legalization of most drugs is worth a serious consideration. This would not cure drug addiction, but it would change the nature of the problem. And what we have done for decades in the so-called “war on drugs” is an expensive ghastly flop. Kirby On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com wrote: A group of young people were playing ball in the back yard. Going after an errant throw, a young man hurdled a small fence, lost balance, and fell awkwardly. His neck met a small object on the ground, larynx crushed, he died. (True story that happened when I was a kid). I am sure that everyone may recall a similar or worse publicly tragic circumstance. Everyone is just 'one decision away' from unintended consequences. PSH was polite enough to keep his decisions private. ad From: Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] PSH RIP Sorry... I can't admire anyone who takes drugs and especially in this manner - he was a great actor but he should not be made heroic drug taking is in my opinion the worst kind of self abuse. This Never Happened to the Other Fella Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rodxmorgan rodxmor...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:33 Subject: [MOPO] PSH RIP A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists
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A tragic loss. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
