Re: [MOPO] Poster question
Aloha,There is some strange affliction to trimmed lobby cards within the poster community. I would say that the antique map collectors have a better grasp on collecting when it comes to trimmed items. I sell rare maps in Maui for a livingyet i only collect movie posters and lobby cards. It is night and day for the two collector's facing the same question.Borders mean little in reality but to collector's that quarter of an inch white margin (or more)missing caneat their heart with regret. I hear it too often in the poster collecting communitythat a fraction of white around the card is crucial. A rare card is a rare card border or not. Is missing some white paper on the sides crucial? Never has been but is asthetically nicer, that is it. Collector's of the big maps from the late 1500's will pay an almost identical trimmed or not because they are rare and are hard to find in a ny condition. Lobby card collector's only pay a mild fraction perhaps 25% of the card's worth if it's trimmed regularly. You are doing one thing only . Helping out the knowingcollector's find some serious steals because you have an affliction. No doubt about it the future will show that this is an unwise move to skip out on great rare lobbies because of a little border trim. Map collecting has been around far longer and they know. Rare is rare border or not. Learn how to paper bond and fix it if it means that much. Steven Yafet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I do the right thing?Recently, I passed on a fairly rare lobby card that I needed because it was trimmed. Not just any kind of trimming, but cut neatly all around the title and stars' names. Never saw anything quite like it before.I was going to get it anyway and have it restored but I didn't. Sold for under $30.Something similar happened several years ago. I bought a damaged card and three months later, found the same card in near mint condition at a little local collectibles' show. It was a bargain, but I still have the other card (for which I overpaid, much to my shame)So, I thought that history might repeat itself.But, I am still having some doubts because the card was rare; the colors were bright and I liked it.Any opinions on this would be much appreciated.NathalieVisit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Poster question
Sorry but this comparison of 1500's maps to 1930's or laterlobby cards is bollocks. A few simple factors makes it so. The sheer surface space, the age, and the rarity, jump to mind. Say a rare lobby card from The Black Cat only comes up every other year, but every year a trimmed version appears. This is hypothetical, of course, I would hate to see a trimmed rare Black Cat lobby card, that trimmed card would be worth very little to me. I would rather save my money for that extra-rare prime condition card.While these complete cards are undoubtedly rare, they can be found and will be, again and again even if every again is a couple of years off. Oh sure, I have purchased filler cards of lesser condition, but I'm always willing to pay much more for that great condition item. These lesser conditioned items are very accurately described by JR. Rather like a Magazine or something like that, a placeholder, which I know I'm unlinkely to lose money on but also unlikely to keep. Have these map collector's been around much longer? Undoubtedly, but they were weened on maps not on comics, coins, or baseball cards. Condition means at least as much as rarity often anymore, and condition on a rare card means more and more every day.A rare lobby card in excellent condition will always be worth substantially more than the same card with borders trimmers, at least in my life time. RonP.S. I've got nothing wrong with anyone buying lower conditioned rare cards, if I did I would bea fool to own as many I do. The day a trimmed Murders in the Rue Morgue makes even 20% of an original, I'll be totally lost.Tait Maxfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Aloha, There is some strange affliction to trimmed lobby cards within the poster community. I would say that the antique map collectors have a better grasp on collecting when it comes to trimmed items. I sell rare maps in Maui for a livingyet i only collect movie posters and lobby cards. It is night and day for the two collector's facing the same question.Borders mean little in reality but to collector's that quarter of an inch white margin (or more)missing caneat their heart with regret. I hear it too often in the poster collecting communitythat a fraction of white around the card is crucial. A rare card is a rare card border or not. Is missing some white paper on the sides crucial? Never has been but is asthetically nicer, that is it. Collector's of the big maps from the late 1500's will pay an almost identical trimmed or not because they are rare and are hard to find in a ny condition. Lobby card collector's only pay a mild fraction perhaps 25% of the card's worth if it's trimmed regularly. You are doing one thing only . Helping out the knowingcollector's find some serious steals because you have an affliction. No doubt about it the future will show that this is an unwise move to skip out on great rare lobbies because of a little border trim. Map collecting has been around far longer and they know. Rare is rare border or not. Learn how to paper bond and fix it if it means that much. Steven Yafet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I do the right thing?Recently, I passed on a fairly rare lobby card that I needed because it was trimmed. Not just any kind of trimming, but cut neatly all around the title and stars' names. Never saw anything quite like it before.I was going to get it anyway and have it restored but I didn't. Sold for under $30.Something similar happened several years ago. I bought a damaged card and three months later, found the same card in near mint condition at a little local collectibles' show. It was a bargain, but I still have the other card (for which I overpaid, much to my shame)So, I thought that history might repeat itself.But, I am still having some doubts because the card was rare; the colors were bright and I liked it.Any opinions on this would be much appreciated.NathalieVisit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is
Re: [MOPO] Poster question
Nathalie: If you're happy with the card, you did the right thing. While condition is always an important consideration when buying a poster, if a lesser condiiton copy of a personally coveted title is the only one you can find, I say go for it. Display the sucker, love it, let make you happy. I'm sitting right now surrounded by several laminated inserts from rare expensive horror titles. They look exactly the same as their non-laminated brethren in a frame, and I got them for less than half-price on Ebay, thanks to the prejudice against laminated pieces by condition freaks pinhole counters in our hobby. If you love it, and the price is right, you go, girl! Greg Douglass Steven Yafet wrote: Did I do the right thing? Recently, I passed on a fairly rare lobby card that I needed because it was trimmed. Not just any kind of trimming, but cut neatly all around the title and stars' names. Never saw anything quite like it before. I was going to get it anyway and have it restored but I didn't. Sold for under $30. Something similar happened several years ago. I bought a damaged card and three months later, found the same card in near mint condition at a little local collectibles' show. It was a bargain, but I still have the other card (for which I overpaid, much to my shame) So, I thought that history might repeat itself. But, I am still having some doubts because the card was rare; the colors were bright and I liked it. Any opinions on this would be much appreciated. Nathalie Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Poster question
Did I do the right thing? Recently, I passed on a fairly rare lobby card that I needed because it was trimmed. Not just any kind of trimming, but cut neatly all around the title and stars' names. Never saw anything quite like it before. I was going to get it anyway and have it restored but I didn't. Sold for under $30. Something similar happened several years ago. I bought a damaged card and three months later, found the same card in near mint condition at a little local collectibles' show. It was a bargain, but I still have the other card (for which I overpaid, much to my shame) So, I thought that history might repeat itself. But, I am still having some doubts because the card was rare; the colors were bright and I liked it. Any opinions on this would be much appreciated. Nathalie Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Poster question
Howdy Nat, Depends on the angle ... was the sun in your eyes or behind your back, and was the wind blowing in or out? Second guessing best suits the Monday morning quarterback. You did the right thing. ad --- Steven Yafet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I do the right thing? Recently, I passed on a fairly rare lobby card that I needed because it was trimmed. Not just any kind of trimming, but cut neatly all around the title and stars' names. Never saw anything quite like it before. I was going to get it anyway and have it restored but I didn't. Sold for under $30. Something similar happened several years ago. I bought a damaged card and three months later, found the same card in near mint condition at a little local collectibles' show. It was a bargain, but I still have the other card (for which I overpaid, much to my shame) So, I thought that history might repeat itself. But, I am still having some doubts because the card was rare; the colors were bright and I liked it. Any opinions on this would be much appreciated. Nathalie Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Poster question
Nathalie, In magazine collecting, which I was into for many years, it is common practice to buy a placeholder that is in pretty bad shape just to fill a hole in a run (which is a one full year or more of the magazine's sequential issues). The idea, of course, is that eventually you replace the placeholder with a better copy when (if) one becomes available. I did this sometimes... other collectors I knew did it a lot. You don't see this as much in movie poster collecting for a couple of reasons: 1) Movie posters are display items... meant to be hung up on a wall and seen, so the condition becomes more of an issue whereas magazines tend to be sitting on a shelf, not seen as much. 2) Movie posters don't really have runs of sequential issues like magazines do. But there are collectors who collect one of each different size paper for a film... or all of a certain actor... or whatever. In those cases, I can see picking up a placeholder to fill a hole in the run if the price is cheap enough. Lobby cards are psychologically closer to a run of magazines, in that it is a set of 8, so you can have definite holes that need to be filled if you want the whole set. ... which is the long way of saying that what you are thinking of is common practice in some areas of paper collecting. If the item is even somewhat rare, chances are you can always sell the placeholder later for at least what you paid for it when (if) you find a better copy. -- JR - Original Message - From: Steven Yafet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 18:05 Subject: [MOPO] Poster question Did I do the right thing? Recently, I passed on a fairly rare lobby card that I needed because it was trimmed. Not just any kind of trimming, but cut neatly all around the title and stars' names. Never saw anything quite like it before. I was going to get it anyway and have it restored but I didn't. Sold for under $30. Something similar happened several years ago. I bought a damaged card and three months later, found the same card in near mint condition at a little local collectibles' show. It was a bargain, but I still have the other card (for which I overpaid, much to my shame) So, I thought that history might repeat itself. But, I am still having some doubts because the card was rare; the colors were bright and I liked it. Any opinions on this would be much appreciated. Nathalie Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] poster question
Does anyone know if they made an insert for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? Also, I lost out to someone with more money on a OS a few weeks ago. It was the one with their portrait, the bicycle AND it had them doing their cowboys and gun thing. So, I wanted that one sheet or the insert. I looked on LAMP; not there. If it's not on LAMP, does that mean it doesn't exist? Now, I seemed to have found the insert, but is it real? I searched to find ANY pictures or mention of an insert and came up with nothing. You people don't mind talking posters, do ya? ;) Thanks for all input! I want to take the dive, but I'm afraid to without more knowledge. Andrea Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] poster question
Hello Andrea and all... John Kisch's MOVIE POSTER PRICE ALMANAC 2003 lists an Insert for BUTCH CASSIDY THE SUNDANCE KID (1969) selling on eBay in 7/02 for $59.00. It is my recollection that the studios generally did away with Inserts, Half Sheets and Lobby Cards in the mid-80s. As for fighting with MoPo members, I can do that at home with my family. I'd much rather talk posters with you. Mike Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] poster question
Hi Andrea: This is Sue from LAMP. I sure wish that we could say that our site has all the movie posters for every movie made in our DataBase. To Dream the Impossible Dream. As fast as Ed and I input, what we have online is just a mere drop in the bucket -- and we have 50,000 unique images on line! We have about 300,000 images on hand in our queue waiting to be uploaded, and our LAMP dealers have about 3 million in their combined inventories -- realistically we will never get all of these images on line. We're just NOT that young and NOT that fast. Anyway, I did check our image queue and while we have about 20 more images on Butch Cassidy that we have not yet uploaded, we have no inserts. In checking with our LAMP dealers, we found that Cinemasterpieces (Dave Lieberman) offers an insert on a special order basis, but no image, but I would assume that this means one exists. In fact, John Kisch's Almanac mentions an insert. If anyone has an image and would like to submit it to us, we would be happy to add it to our listing and give photo credit. Sorry that we couldn't be of more help with your search. Sue Freedom Lover wrote: Does anyone know if they made an insert for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? Also, I lost out to someone with more money on a OS a few weeks ago. It was the one with their portrait, the bicycle AND it had them doing their cowboys and gun thing. So, I wanted that one sheet or the insert. I looked on LAMP; not there. If it's not on LAMP, does that mean it doesn't exist? Now, I seemed to have found the insert, but is it real? I searched to find ANY pictures or mention of an insert and came up with nothing. You people don't mind talking posters, do ya? ;) Thanks for all input! I want to take the dive, but I'm afraid to without more knowledge. Andrea Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] poster question
Thank-you to Sue, Michael and William for replying. At least I found out the insert exists! I'm going to contact David and see if it's the same image. Meanwhile, if anyone has the same OS I missed (DA*N!!!), please feel free to contact me. I can't get it off my mind! Thanks you lovely people! Andrea Kanter - Original Message - From: Sue To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] poster question Hi Andrea:This is Sue from LAMP. I sure wish that we could say that our site has all the movie posters for every movie made in our DataBase. To Dream the Impossible Dream. As fast as Ed and I input, what we have online is just a mere drop in the bucket -- and we have 50,000 unique images on line!We have about 300,000 images on hand in our queue waiting to be uploaded, and our LAMP dealers have about 3 million in their combined inventories -- realistically we will never get all of these images on line. We're just NOT that young and NOT that fast.Anyway, I did check our image queue and while we have about 20 more images on Butch Cassidy that we have not yet uploaded, we have no inserts. In checking with our LAMP dealers, we found that Cinemasterpieces (Dave Lieberman) offers an insert on a special order basis, but no image, but I would assume that this means one exists. In fact, John Kisch's Almanac mentions an insert.If anyone has an image and would like to submit it to us, we would be happy to add it to our listing and give photo credit.Sorry that we couldn't be of more help with your search.SueFreedom Lover wrote: Does anyone know if they made an insert for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? Also, I lost out to someone with more money on a OS a few weeks ago. It was the one with their portrait, the bicycle AND it had them doing their cowboys and gun thing. So, I wanted that one sheet or the insert. I looked on LAMP; not there. If it's not on LAMP, does that mean it doesn't exist? Now, I seemed to have found the insert, but is it real? I searched to find ANY pictures or mention of an insert and came up with nothing. You people don't mind talking posters, do ya? ;) Thanks for all input! I want to take the dive, but I'm afraid to without more knowledge. Andrea Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
