Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-27 Thread Michael B
thanks...

too complicated

but as i said, I AINT DOIN' IT? !!!?? 

risky on a good poster if you never did it before.?? 

as my orig post stated...i was curious about a specific fold line on one 
poster.

thanks
michael





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From: Dario Casadei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: [MOPO] fold lines...pastel pencils?


Hi Michael,

That is funny. Such a vocal anti Linen and restoration guy, now you want to do 
your own restoration.

You need help ( no pun ) So please let me help you!! :-) 

Pastel pencils are not cool. Please use water color pencils, like the one's Sue 
recommended ( brand Prisma colors ) or you can use Faber Castell? Albrecht 
Durer my preferred choice for work.

Going over a rough fold might be very tricky not having the poster backed and 
the folds made flush.

So you need to buy some archival Methyl Cellulose from lineco 
http://www.lineco.com/item.cfm?itemnum=793-1001 

Follow the instruction and ad another 1/2 of cellulose to make it really thick. 
You need a small rectangular piece of Mylar and a fine brush.

Brush the fold lightly, lay the mylar over it. Use a? burnishing tool, apply 
pressure, walk the line, remove mylar, wipe excess Cellulose, let it dry, color 
in.

Pretty easy stuff.

Best,
dario.




Michael B wrote: 
trust me-i have nothing planned!

i just see some white at the fold line on this one poster.? not 
offensive..?? it is just that the colors are so beautiful, bold and 
vibrant

(one person sent me an email asking to buy it...i said no)

but, it got me thinking

i have 2 posters with minor brown tape---i did not even use a white pencil 
over these areas!?? 

my questions was out of curiosity ONLY

i am reading all the responses-thank you!!!


michael



-Original Message-
From: pj angel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [MOPO] fold lines...pastel pencils?



Michael, it appears?like you're talking about...wait for it...a?restoration 
process! 

?

And we all know how you stand on that!

?

Maybe Dario could give you some tips, or better yet, just send it to him. 

?

He'll get rid of that nasty fold line. 

?

That's my suggestion, anyway.

?



?

pj

Michael B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on half sheets and 
inserts?

i am talking about heavy folds..? pastel pencils non-oil base, i 
assume???

(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent top fold.? there 
are no images in the area; it is?red/orange background color with yellow 
letters.)



thanks
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Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-26 Thread pj angel
Michael, it appears like you're talking about...wait for it...a restoration 
process! 
   
  And we all know how you stand on that!
   
  Maybe Dario could give you some tips, or better yet, just send it to him. 
   
  He'll get rid of that nasty fold line. 
   
  That's my suggestion, anyway.
   
  
   
  pj

Michael B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on half sheets 
and inserts?

i am talking about heavy folds..  pastel pencils???  non-oil base, i 
assume???

(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent top fold.  there 
are no images in the area; it is red/orange background color with yellow 
letters.)



thanks
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Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-26 Thread Michael B
trust me-i have nothing planned!

i just see some white at the fold line on this one poster.? not 
offensive..?? it is just that the colors are so beautiful, bold and 
vibrant

(one person sent me an email asking to buy it...i said no)

but, it got me thinking

i have 2 posters with minor brown tape---i did not even use a white pencil 
over these areas!?? 

my questions was out of curiosity ONLY

i am reading all the responses-thank you!!!


michael



-Original Message-
From: pj angel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [MOPO] fold lines...pastel pencils?



Michael, it appears?like you're talking about...wait for it...a?restoration 
process! 

?

And we all know how you stand on that!

?

Maybe Dario could give you some tips, or better yet, just send it to him. 

?

He'll get rid of that nasty fold line. 

?

That's my suggestion, anyway.

?



?

pj

Michael B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on half sheets and 
inserts?

i am talking about heavy folds..? pastel pencils non-oil base, i 
assume???

(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent top fold.? there 
are no images in the area; it is?red/orange background color with yellow 
letters.)



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Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-26 Thread Susan Heim

Hello All,
   Ocassionally I have a poster that does not need the full advantage of 
Sylvia's work. I touch them up with a kit of pencils I have from Prismacolor. 
One little trick I saw Sylvia do years ago with the same pencil kit was to 
sharpen the tip and then dip in in linseed oil, I believe her intent was to 
soften the lead so that it applied more evenly. Now, she didn't have the 
linseed oil dripping off of the pencil and she dabbed in on a rag before 
applying but that is how I do it and it works great. I wouldn't suggest dipping 
in the oil and then doing a section of white or light colored. Usually touch up 
with pencils is for darker areas anyway as there are never light enough pencils 
in my kit for very light areas.
 
Good Luck,
Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com 



Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:54:46 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [MOPO] fold 
lines...pastel pencils?To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on half sheets and 
inserts?i am talking about heavy folds..  pastel pencils???  non-oil 
base, i assume???(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent 
top fold.  there are no images in the area; it is red/orange background color 
with yellow letters.)thanksmichael


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Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-26 Thread Dario Casadei

*Hi Michael,

That is funny. Such a vocal anti Linen and restoration guy, now you want 
to do your own restoration.


You need help ( no pun ) So please let me help you!! :-)

Pastel pencils are not cool. Please use water color pencils, like the 
one's Sue recommended ( brand Prisma colors ) or you can use Faber 
Castell  Albrecht Durer my preferred choice for work.


Going over a rough fold might be very tricky not having the poster 
backed and the folds made flush.


So you need to buy some archival Methyl Cellulose from lineco 
http://www.lineco.com/item.cfm?itemnum=793-1001


Follow the instruction and ad another 1/2 of cellulose to make it really 
thick. You need a small rectangular piece of Mylar and a fine brush.


Brush the fold lightly, lay the mylar over it. Use a  burnishing tool, 
apply pressure, walk the line, remove mylar, wipe excess Cellulose, let 
it dry, color in.


Pretty easy stuff.

Best,
dario.
*



Michael B wrote:

trust me-i have nothing planned!

i just see some white at the fold line on this one poster.  not 
offensive..   it is just that the colors are so beautiful, 
bold and vibrant


(one person sent me an email asking to buy it...i said no)

but, it got me thinking

i have 2 posters with minor brown tape---i did not even use a 
white pencil over these areas!  


my questions was out of curiosity ONLY

i am reading all the responses-thank you!!!


michael



-Original Message-
From: pj angel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [MOPO] fold lines...pastel pencils?

Michael, it appears like you're talking about...wait for 
it...a */restoration/* process!
 
And we all know how you stand on that!
 
Maybe Dario could give you some tips, or better yet, just send it to him.
 
He'll get rid of that nasty fold line.
 
That's my suggestion, anyway.
 
 
pj


*/Michael B [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on half
sheets and inserts?

i am talking about heavy folds..  pastel pencils??? 
non-oil base, i assume???


(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent top
fold.  there are no images in the area; it is red/orange
background color with yellow letters.)



thanks
michael

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Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-26 Thread Shelly Whitworth-King

 
You're too modest, Dario. Although, you do make it sound do-able for the 
novice, which is very helpful advice.
 
Thanks!
 
Shelly



Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:21:58 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [MOPO] fold 
lines...pastel pencils?To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Hi Michael,That is funny. Such a vocal anti Linen and restoration guy, now you 
want to do your own restoration.You need help ( no pun ) So please let me help 
you!! :-) Pastel pencils are not cool. Please use water color pencils, like the 
one's Sue recommended ( brand Prisma colors ) or you can use Faber Castell  
Albrecht Durer my preferred choice for work.Going over a rough fold might be 
very tricky not having the poster backed and the folds made flush.So you need 
to buy some archival Methyl Cellulose from lineco 
http://www.lineco.com/item.cfm?itemnum=793-1001 Follow the instruction and ad 
another 1/2 of cellulose to make it really thick. You need a small rectangular 
piece of Mylar and a fine brush.Brush the fold lightly, lay the mylar over it. 
Use a  burnishing tool, apply pressure, walk the line, remove mylar, wipe 
excess Cellulose, let it dry, color in.Pretty easy stuff.Best,dario.Michael B 
wrote: 
trust me-i have nothing planned!i just see some white at the fold line 
on this one poster.  not offensive..   it is just that the colors are 
so beautiful, bold and vibrant(one person sent me an email asking to 
buy it...i said no)but, it got me thinkingi have 2 posters with minor 
brown tape---i did not even use a white pencil over these areas!   my 
questions was out of curiosity ONLYi am reading all the 
responses-thank you!!!michael-Original 
Message-From: pj angel [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 26 
Sep 2008 9:37 amSubject: Re: [MOPO] fold lines...pastel pencils?

Michael, it appears like you're talking about...wait for it...a restoration 
process! 
 
And we all know how you stand on that!
 
Maybe Dario could give you some tips, or better yet, just send it to him. 
 
He'll get rid of that nasty fold line. 
 
That's my suggestion, anyway.
 

 
pjMichael B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on half sheets and 
inserts?i am talking about heavy folds..  pastel pencils???  non-oil 
base, i assume???(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent 
top fold.  there are no images in the area; it is red/orange background color 
with yellow letters.)thanksmichael


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Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-26 Thread Dario Casadei

*Hi Shelly,

Absolutely! It's doable by anyone who's willing to give it a try.
I would spend the time typing it all up for fun sake.

Best,
dario.
*
Shelly Whitworth-King wrote:


 
You're too modest, Dario. Although, you do make it sound do-able for 
the novice, which is very helpful advice.
 
Thanks!
 
Shelly





Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:21:58 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] fold lines...pastel pencils?
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

*Hi Michael,

That is funny. Such a vocal anti Linen and restoration guy, now you 
want to do your own restoration.


You need help ( no pun ) So please let me help you!! :-)

Pastel pencils are not cool. Please use water color pencils, like the 
one's Sue recommended ( brand Prisma colors ) or you can use Faber 
Castell  Albrecht Durer my preferred choice for work.


Going over a rough fold might be very tricky not having the poster 
backed and the folds made flush.


So you need to buy some archival Methyl Cellulose from lineco 
http://www.lineco.com/item.cfm?itemnum=793-1001


Follow the instruction and ad another 1/2 of cellulose to make it 
really thick. You need a small rectangular piece of Mylar and a fine 
brush.


Brush the fold lightly, lay the mylar over it. Use a  burnishing tool, 
apply pressure, walk the line, remove mylar, wipe excess Cellulose, 
let it dry, color in.


Pretty easy stuff.

Best,
dario.
*



Michael B wrote:

trust me-i have nothing planned!

i just see some white at the fold line on this one poster.  not
offensive..   it is just that the colors are so beautiful,
bold and vibrant

(one person sent me an email asking to buy it...i said no)

but, it got me thinking

i have 2 posters with minor brown tape---i did not even use a
white pencil over these areas!  


my questions was out of curiosity ONLY

i am reading all the responses-thank you!!!


michael



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From: pj angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [MOPO] fold lines...pastel pencils?

Michael, it appears like you're talking about...wait for
it...a */restoration/* process!
 
And we all know how you stand on that!
 
Maybe Dario could give you some tips, or better yet, just send it

to him.
 
He'll get rid of that nasty fold line.
 
That's my suggestion, anyway.
 
 
pj


*/Michael B [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on
half sheets and inserts?

i am talking about heavy folds..  pastel pencils??? 
non-oil base, i assume???


(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent
top fold.  there are no images in the area; it is red/orange
background color with yellow letters.)



thanks
michael

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Re: [MOPO] fold lines...............pastel pencils?

2008-09-25 Thread Jeff Potokar

michael,

do you have any art/drawing/shading experience? if not, and you  
simply go out and decide to color over fold lines, etc. you will  
make them look worse.



jeff


On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Michael B wrote:

any suggestions to minimize the distraction of fold lines on half  
sheets and inserts?


i am talking about heavy folds..  pastel pencils???  non- 
oil base, i assume???


(i have an insert of THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, with a prominent top  
fold.  there are no images in the area; it is red/orange background  
color with yellow letters.)




thanks
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