Re: [MOSAIC] point of view

2007-02-01 Thread MrsJRoman
It comes from one of Cris Tovani's books. I think it is I Read It But I  
don't Get It.  Basically she talks about looking at a house from two  
perspectives.  One being that of the robber who is canvassing the house as  a 
possible 
robbery target.  All the details that a robber would be  interested in 
including 
the habits of the dwellers etc.  The second  perspective is that of the real 
estate agent who is trying to sell the  house.  Same house but totally 
different details involved.  It is a  great lesson and I have done it a number 
of 
times.
 
June
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Re: [MOSAIC] most significant barriers

2007-02-01 Thread MrsJRoman
I am inclined to agree with Lori.  Too many people want to hang on to  the 
old. I must also say that age or years of teaching have very little to do  with 
hanging on to the old.  I have been teaching as long if not longer (33  years) 
than most anyone in my building yet I am constantly looking for new  research 
and technology to facilitate the learning of my students.
 
June
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Re: [MOSAIC] inferring update

2007-02-01 Thread Patricia Kimathi
I can't wait to try this.  What books do you recommend?
Pat K

to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night 
and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest 
battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting.

e.e. cummings

On Jan 31, 2007, at 5:38 PM, ginger/rob wrote:

 I am so excited!  Last week I gave picture books (3 kids with the same
 book/3 different books going) to my 9 top readers with the charge to 
 pay
 attention when reading to WHERE in the text they hear the signal to 
 stop
 a
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Re: [MOSAIC] inferring update

2007-02-01 Thread Patricia Hultquist
What great stuff!  Thanks for sharing!  ;-)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/1/2007 6:01 AM 
Ginger,  What great lessons.  I also teach second grade and am working
on inferring.  Could you share what text you used for your groups and
possibly point out some of the places the students needed to infer? 
Thank you.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/31/07 8:38 PM 
I am so excited!  Last week I gave picture books (3 kids with the same

book/3 different books going) to my 9 top readers with the charge to
pay

attention when reading to WHERE in the text they hear the signal to
stop 
and THINK and infer what the author is meaning.  I have never done this

before so I wasn't sure if they could do it.  I had them each read
their

book alone and notice these places (they could put a sticky note at
that

place if they found any).  Then I put them together in their group of
three 
to reread together and this time they were to put and I at the top
of
a 
sticky note, write their group inference, and stick it next to the text

clues that led to the inference.  Even though they each have their own

books, I told them to just use one book to hold their inferences.

I was very nervous that they would not be able to recognize those
places

where our minds lead us to deeper inferential thinking.  But today
proved to 
me that they CAN do it.

I did three different rounds of fish bowls.  I wanted to hear how they
were 
doing before they got too into the work. The first group of three sat
inside 
a larger circle of 6.  I had each member hold the book with the
inferences 
and first read to us the part in the text that led to the inference. 
(As an 
aside: when I train my kids to do book clubs I always have them say:
When I 
read ___-actual words from the text-_ I wondered.  or When I
read 
___ my thinking was..  or When I read ___ it made me
remember 
when I ..  I do this so that they remain grounded in the text,
always 
knowing what they read that led to that thinking.)  Next that student
read 
the groups inference.  AND I HELD MY BREATH!!!

After each of those three took a turn sharing a group inference, the
next 
book group sat inside the circle and repeated the process. 9 out of 9 
inferences were right on target!  Each place they had put a sticky
note
was 
truly a place that naturally led to an inference  OH MY GOSH!!! 
They 
were DOING IT!!!

For me, I think this is huge because while I feel good about my
ability
to 
teach what an inference is and my interactive think alouds whole group

produce good inferential thinking in my students, I  just wasn't
convinced 
that they were able to know WHEN to infer when reading independently.

I 
believe this work we are doing now is the just right next step for
them.
It 
reminds me of when I learned to do think alouds.  I hated it at first.

It 
felt awkward.  I never knew when to stop and think outloud.  Now I can
think 
aloud through anything you give me.  So maybe as we do this more they
will 
feel more aware of that metacognitive voice inside and HEAR it and give

themselves the luxury of stopping to THINK.  Isn't that our goal?

What amazing work this is!!  Powerful!
Ginger
moderator
grade 2



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Re: [MOSAIC] AN INVITATION

2007-02-01 Thread Danna, Claudia
Hi, do we know where these wonderful stories come from? Hope you can
help. Claudia

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Jimenez, Elisa
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] AN INVITATION

Hey, Lori,
I loved this poem.  It tugged at my heart strings for some reason.  Here
are my questions:
1-21 numbers?  Who is she trying to call?
2-Why does she mention her brother once and not again?
3-Why does she shudder?
Elisa Waingort
Calgary, Canada




The Phone Call
Philip Levine

She calls Chicago, but no one
is home. The operator asks
for another number but still
no one answers. Together
they try twenty-one numbers,
and at each no one is ever home.
Can I call Baltimore? she asks.
She can, but she knows no one
in Baltimore, no one in
St Louis, Boston, Washington.
She imagines herself standing
before the glass wall high
over Lake Shore Drive, the cars
below fanning into the city.
East she can see all the way
to Gary and the great gray clouds
of exhaustion rolling over
the lake where her vision ends.
This is where her brother lives.
At such height there's nothing,
no birds, no growing, no noise.
She leans her sweating forehead
against the cold glass, shudders,
and puts down the receiver. 






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Re: [MOSAIC] AN INVITATION

2007-02-01 Thread Danna, Claudia
HI can someone out there in cyberspace tell me where to get the
stories/poems referred to here.  My writing class loved The Phone Call
and want more...I'll keep the ball rolling with them that spurred so
much emotion and feeling as well as a great character study... Please
help if you can.  Many thanks.. Claudia

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura Hack
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] AN INVITATION

I see a writing lesson developing as a continuation of our discussion.  
 How about.And slowly she turned away so that the head nurse, the
one with all of the keys that jingled, could lead her back to her white
room that they considered safe.

I love it!  Thanks for the idea.  What a trip this could be!
Laura

:)  


 Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/31/2007 5:08 PM 
Laura,
  LOL! I empathize with you! I kept thinking there will be a line at
the end that explains it all, something along the lines of . . . And all
because she forgot about the birthday party.


Joy/NC/4
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Re: [MOSAIC] AN INVITATION

2007-02-01 Thread Carlevarom
A member said they were written by Philip Levine.  I did a google  search and 
found the poem.  It is from a book called A Walk with Tom  Jefferson. The 
background information on the audio of the poem told by  Garrison Keillor gives 
a 
little insight into the poet also. 
Marsha
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Re: [MOSAIC] AN INVITATION

2007-02-01 Thread ljackson
I know that my trip to Denver, which always includes a visit to the Tattered 
Cover, is going to have me searching for some 
volumes by Levine.  I loved these poems and all I have seen by him!!

Lori

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:49:47 EST , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

A member said they were written by Philip Levine.  I did a google  search and 
found the poem.  It is from a book called A Walk with Tom  Jefferson. The 
background information on the audio of the poem told by  Garrison Keillor 
gives a 
little insight into the poet also. 
Marsha
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Re: [MOSAIC] most significant barriers

2007-02-01 Thread SooZQ55164
Rosie,
ASk your literacy coach how they can call it the reading lock when no one  is 
reading
 
Sue
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[MOSAIC] Kindergarten Questioning

2007-02-01 Thread ljackson

One of my mentees has a very difficult kindergarten class, one that would test 
the best and she is one of the best.  She has been 
struggling to involve her students in questioning and is about to go nuts.  I 
told her I would put out a kindergarten 'all call' on 
for ideas on how to teach questioning.

Lori




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Re: [MOSAIC] inferring books/more/long

2007-02-01 Thread Felicia Barra
Ginger,

I appreciate all your posts.  I use your formula for inferring with my first 
graders.  Last week we read The Little Red Hen by Byron Barton in our 
anthology.  As I was reading it, I asked my children to pay attention to the 
chicks(children of the hen) in the pictures.  Then I when I got to a page 
that the chicks were not with their mother(the little red hen was cutting 
down the wheat), I asked them to infer why. When they couldn't answer me, I 
asked them to look at what the little red hen was doing.  The lightbulb went 
off in one little boy's head in my room and he enthusiastically raised his 
hand.  When I called on him, he said, Because she's doing something 
dangerous and she doesn't want her chicks to get hurt.  Well the next set 
of pages, she was doing something dangerous again and his hand went up as 
well as the next page.  I was laughing on the inside because he really got 
it and wanted me to know.  I hope this makes sense.

Once again, thanks for all you do.

Felicia
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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] inferring books/more/long


I really don't think it matters what exact book you hand your students to 
do
 the inferring work as long as there is some meat to the books.  I just
 honestly stand in the stacks at our public library and look at the spines 
 of
 the picture books until I see three copies and then I pull one out and 
 skim
 it.  If it looks deeper then I read it and make my decision.  The books 
 I
 picked for this round are: Amazing Grace, The Raft, I Love Saturday (not 
 the
 deepest book).  I also selected Shrinking Violet, Smokey Night, and Some
 Frog (more like a short chapter book) to use if we do another round of 
 this
 work.  I will give the kids a short book talk on the other books and let
 them choose which group they want to be in.

 As far as the places where they should stop to infer.. I really
 think that all depends on the book, the child's schema, and the groups
 combined thinking.  I don't have all the stopping places figured out ahead
 of time nor would I ever do that.  I don't think that is necessary.  For 
 me,
 it is more about THEM realizing that there is deeper thinking to be done 
 and
 that they should be on the lookout for those places as they are reading.
 Always listening for that inner voice that should be talking to them AS 
 they
 are reading.  Not just hearing that voice, but doing something about it 
 when
 they hear it.

 While I obviously realize that there are levels of inferring that range 
 from
 surface inferences that happen along the way, to overarching themes that
 they must keep track of as they are reading (requires stamina), for me,
 right now at least, if they can monitor themselves AS they are reading to
 catch those inferential places provided by the author, and they stop and
 think deeper (infer/ponder), then we are getting somewhere!!!

 Last night after my email came through the list and I reread it, I
 wondered am I making too big of a deal about this?  I mean in the 
 past,
 I taught inferring (after I FINALLY figured out how to teach it so they
 could get it) and then we'd do many text pieces together (inferring at
 those perfect places) and then I'd give them a common text piece to try it
 in small groups and then I'd move them to partners and then on to marking
 their own inferences during independent reading on self selected text. 
 I'd
 check in with them of course at that point during reading conferences or 
 I'd
 collect their sticky notes and see there inferences, but I don't really
 think I did justice in my instruction on how to pay attention to 
 WHEN/WHERE
 they should infer.  So while part of me thinks this little inferring 
 study
 I'm trying (in this way) for the first time is a bit anal (does that
 surprise those of you who 'know' me???), it does feel much more explicit.
 Plus these are second graders (my prior experience has been with 3rd and 
 4th
 graders).  I have to keep talking to myself about this.  I hope what I am
 doing is scaffolding them??  The end result is hopefully going to be
 kids who will have an ear to hear those inferential parts in text and who
 will stop and THINK AS they are reading.

 I also know I am just doing this with 9 kids out of my 23.  I can see 
 these
 9 kids taking the teaching role and sharing how they worked through their
 books in this way with the rest of the class.  I'm going to try that next
 week.

 Writing all this out here is really helping me. I know I write long when I
 write but it's like processing out loud.  I think more of you guys should
 try it.
 I know I learn a lot from listening in to your thinking.
 Ginger
 moderator
 grade 2



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Re: [MOSAIC] appreciating reading/book talks

2007-02-01 Thread Kukonis
Just a ghost from the past... but in reading all of your posts and trying  to 
implement the best of the best in my own practice I can't help but think that 
 responding to text has got to be more than a written response. ... 
especially in  primary. Turn and talk is good but it takes quite a bit of 
structure and 
 practice for kids to expand their thinking this way since often little ones 
only  concentrate on what they want to say and even though they give nod to 
the  speaker  their thoughts are still mostly on their response. 
 
A better activity of turn and talk is in Debbie Miller's  Ducks  at Night 
activity for mental images.  This activity keeps  the  kids focused on their 
partner's response because they are looking for something  to add to their 
personal t-chart picture after the book talk is over. I think  the structure 
has to 
be built in to the activity for kids to really get the  subtle message: Your 
thinking expands, modifies or is confirmed when shared with  others. 
 
In the same respect, written response is not an authentic response to  
reading unless writing to the author or having an online book chat. Rather play 
 
acting, painting, building, singing, this is the medium that I want to grow the 
 
strategies in. who has suggestions
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