Re: [MOSAIC] fluency
I'll try that. Glad you had one success story this year as you seemed discouraged about many of your students. How did they end the year? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Roberts Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 5:43 AM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] fluency Part of the problem is not how well they read ORALLY, but how they read in their heads. I've been keeping data for years and I find that the ones who can't comprehend well, but read aloud well, read SLOWER in their heads. The ones who can't read fluently out loud and comprehend it, read as slowly in their heads as they do orally. Doing time drills where they silently read helpshad one kid this year go from about 100 words a minute to 300 a minute and went from late 2nd grade level to almost 6th. He still reads aloud slowly, but in his head he's a reading maniac! (Had 156 AR points last 9 weeks!) Bill - Original Message - From: Laura Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group' mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:44 AM Subject: [MOSAIC] fluency I think that each teacher really just needs to know his/her students and then determine if fluency is going to determine instructional or independent levels. I agree completely with this-some children will never read fluently orally but their comprehension is good. I think comprehension is the most important factor in determining reading level. The other extreme is very fluent readers whose comprehension is minimal. Laura C ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Bill's year
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll try that. Glad you had one success story this year as you seemed discouraged about many of your students. How did they end the year? Thanks for asking. It was interesting to say the least. There became a schism between the students starting about right after FCAT in March. Many grew up which is typical for 8th graders at the end of the year, but they looked at the not so bright students with disdain. One student was walking along as the class was returning from lunch and muttered, What a moron... under her breath. I asked her about it and she said the other students act so immature and say such stupid things. Many would shake their heads in class or were quick to correct dumb responses like the girl who wanted to be a pediatrician. She said it was someone who took care of babies. I said Like a baby doctor? and she said, No, a pediatrician. Or the ones who thought the Sun goes around the Earth. Or the student who didn't know what the U.S. Constitution was...or the one who didn't know what a homosexual was (don't ask, she understood fag when another student explained it to her). Or the 2 that said when commenting on the millions of Iraqi civilians who have died, who cares? They aren't Americans. The whole class reacted in shock with that comment...especially the students who were from Iraq! We did a research project which about a third commented it was their best work. They put a lot of effort into the research and did a fine job writing and presenting the information. The rest didn't have a clue. Babe Ruth was a good player, but not much of a hitter. My topic was chocolate, but I don't remember anything about it. Ghosts like to climb stairs and to smell lemons. or they copied directly from the Internet, as you can see from the photo above... with NO PICTURE. Neat thing about it was the 3rd who did it actually LOOKED differently...they sat taller in their seats and held themselves more confidently. I actually had one girl who was the shyest girl I have ever seen STAND IN FRONT OF CLASS and present her topic! She would talk, get red, hide behind the poster she was holding, then continuebut she did something she would have never done before! By the end, about a third went up on reading and fluency levels. About 35% had over 100 AR points for the year with the top 12 earning over 200 each. About half stayed at about the same level with only minimal gains while about 20 % went down, but this is the same group that didn't read, didn't do any work, didn't participate and slept whenever possible. Not one of my best years, but there were gains..just not what I wantednow we have to wait until next Thursday to get out FCAT scores.. Bill ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Looking for song book titles
A fun book is Madalina Catalina. Before I knew about the book, I used to sing this song with my class and then have them draw how they imagined Madalina looked. Madalina Catalina Whoopensteiner Lolidiner Hogan Bogan Logan was her name. She had two hairs on top of her head, one was black and the other was red. The verses continue and kids like to add new ones. Carol Boyer -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by ESVA, and is believed to be clean. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Looking for song books titles
Kerry, I purchases text sets of 30 books based on familiar songs for our elementary schools. I am forwarding this to my school account and will send the whole list tomorrow from school. Lori On 5/18/07 6:08 PM, LGersten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought several Raffi books from Amazon. Leslie/1/CA Kerry McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there: I am thinking ahead to next year when this very Junior Intermediate teacher will be changing to grade 1 /2. I have been watching and rereading Debbie Miller and would like to purchase some books that there is a song version of it (like Little Rabbit Foo Foo) I am not sure how to search for these types of books, so I thought I would ask for your reccomendation. With iTunes, finding the songs are much less of a challenge. thanks in advance, Kerry ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute Literate Lives: A Human Right July 12-15, 2007 Louisville, Kentucky http://www.ncte.org/profdev/conv/wlu ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency vs comprehension
Some children read more slowly in their heads, but I would venture to say this is rare. Sight reading is a much quicker process than vocalization--just as cursive writing is quicker than printing. These processes are only slower when a student has not reached the level to write in cursive comfortably or read silently comfortably, or when some other issue is at play. It is one of the reasons I believe oral fluency tests should end at a certain level. How many adults read their reading material aloud? We don't because it is expedient to read silently (and maybe less embarrrassing in public:) ). I know many students who cannot comprehend their reading when they are asked to read aloud. As soon as I allow the silent option--they read fine. I also know people who can fluently read a foreign language silently, though they cannot speak it. I try to keep it in mind that it is different for different children. Bonita California ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
