Re: [MOSAIC] read alouds
> I'm sorry to be so naive in these matters, but is there a device/system > somewhere so that all these great recommendations are put together? I > wondered the last time this came up and had saved several when someone > mentioned that they would be put together somewhere. Could someone point > me to the right place? Thanks. Bev > There are a number of books about read alouds and recommended books for children. Also, if you go to Amazon.com and look up some of the books you will find many recommendations from people all over the planet... Bill. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] compiling lists
Perhaps a wiki? They offer all the collaborative benefits you mention, and then some. There is some initial start-up stuff to wade through, but once you get started it's pretty easy to collaborate and build. * wikiversity: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page * wikibooks: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page * or Keith could set up one on his server (sounds like more work for Keith, but it's an option -- providing he's up to it) Dave Middlebrook The Textmapping Project A resource for teachers improving reading comprehension skills instruction. www.textmapping.org | Please share this site with your colleagues! USA: (609) 771-1781 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "A.Michele Paci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" Cc: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: [MOSAIC] compiling lists > You're right Bev. I wonder if there could be a document that is editable > (is that a word?). This would allow for everyone to make their > contributions in order to compile a comprehensive, but not repetitive > list. I know that I can do this within an > internal e-mail system at work. Maybe it could be something that is posted > in the teaching tools section???I wonder if the tech people might have > some ideas. > > Michele > > > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book
It has been a while since I have read or participated in the mosaic discussions. I hope I am not repeating what others have talked about recently. I am hoping to hear from anyone using the assessments in the new "Assessing Comprehension Thinking Strategies" by Ellin Keene. If so, I am wondering if you are combining some of their written assessment with an oral discussion about their reading to get a snapshoot of their understanding for scoring on the rubric. We are using the questions as a summative assessment for each strategy and having students respond in writing. However, to get an accurate picture, we are finding that you need to combine the written with a conference with many students to get an adequate picture of their understanding (about that text). I would lve to hear from Ellin too. We would love to dialogue about how our teachers are using this assessment book to make instructional discussions about their comprehension lessons. Thanks ahead of time. Shari Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book
I am not familiar with her assessment book. Is this something that could be used with gradres2-5 or is it geared for older students ? Can I order it through Heinemann ? Thanks for any input you may have ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shari Moore Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:05 AM To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Subject: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book It has been a while since I have read or participated in the mosaic discussions. I hope I am not repeating what others have talked about recently. I am hoping to hear from anyone using the assessments in the new "Assessing Comprehension Thinking Strategies" by Ellin Keene. If so, I am wondering if you are combining some of their written assessment with an oral discussion about their reading to get a snapshoot of their understanding for scoring on the rubric. We are using the questions as a summative assessment for each strategy and having students respond in writing. However, to get an accurate picture, we are finding that you need to combine the written with a conference with many students to get an adequate picture of their understanding (about that text). I would lve to hear from Ellin too. We would love to dialogue about how our teachers are using this assessment book to make instructional discussions about their comprehension lessons. Thanks ahead of time. Shari Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book
Shell Educational Publishing - www.seppub.com - 1-877-777-3450 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:24:09 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment > Book> > I am not familiar with her assessment book. Is this something that > could> be used with gradres2-5 or is it geared for older students ? Can I > order> it through Heinemann ?> Thanks for any input you may have ! ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book
I have not used it, but someone mentioned it over the summer, I think. Here is a link for preview/sample/order. http://www.teachercreatedmaterials.com/estore/product/10404 It is from Teacher Created Materials. It would be interesting to hear from people already using it. Thanks, Lisa 2/3 IL --- Laura Klug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not familiar with her assessment book. Is this > something that could > be used with gradres2-5 or is it geared for older > students ? Can I order > it through Heinemann ? > Thanks for any input you may have ! > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shari Moore > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:05 AM > To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > Subject: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book > > It has been a while since I have read or > participated in the mosaic > discussions. I hope I am not repeating what others > have talked about > recently. I am hoping to hear from anyone using the > assessments in the > new "Assessing Comprehension Thinking Strategies" by > Ellin Keene. If > so, I am wondering if you are combining some of > their written assessment > with an oral discussion about their reading to get a > snapshoot of their > understanding for scoring on the rubric. We are > using the questions as > a summative assessment for each strategy and having > students respond in > writing. However, to get an accurate picture, we > are finding that you > need to combine the written with a conference with > many students to get > an adequate picture of their understanding (about > that text). > I would lve to hear from Ellin too. We would > love to dialogue about > how our teachers are using this assessment book to > make instructional > discussions about their comprehension lessons. > Thanks ahead of time. > Shari Moore > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go > to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go > to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book
I have the assessment book. Passages start at 1st grade and go through 8th. But, the assessments can be done with any reading material. Melody Pinkston Sunrise Elementary Yuma, AZ ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin Keene Assessment Book
Is anyone using this assessment after reading aloud a particular passage? If so, how accurate is the information? Thanks, Carol On Oct 25, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Melody Pinkston wrote: > I have the assessment book. Passages start at 1st grade and go > through 8th. But, the assessments can be done with any reading > material. > > > Melody Pinkston > Sunrise Elementary > Yuma, AZ > > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] compiling lists
There are s many book review sites that adding another may be a bit of overkill. What might be better is a create a "list of lists"? So somewhere on Mosaic website there would be links to read aloud "lists" such as: http://www.read2kids.org/readaloud_books.htm http://www.readaloudamerica.org/pdfs/BookList_Composite_2006.pdf http://www.readingrants.org/ (done in blog style) >From my experience, there would need to be a really committed team of people to make a wiki a viable solution. An "open blog" with a small team managing and approving entries might work best (like "ReadingRants" above). Keith Mack Web Administrator for Mosaic List -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Middlebrook Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:02 AM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] compiling lists Perhaps a wiki? They offer all the collaborative benefits you mention, and then some. There is some initial start-up stuff to wade through, but once you get started it's pretty easy to collaborate and build. * wikiversity: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page * wikibooks: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page * or Keith could set up one on his server (sounds like more work for Keith, but it's an option -- providing he's up to it) ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] Schema/Connections
We have been working on schema and making connections over the last few weeks. We have specifically been working on text-to-self connections and it is going fine. I have modeled my thinking several times, we shared connections and put them on a chart, we then numbered the connections to find the very useful ones (Debbie Miller), and the kids have done some writing and drawing about connections they have from books I've read aloud. So now I'm thinking they should do some writing about connections from books they read with a partner and then books from their independent reading time of the workshop. Does that sound right? I think they are ready for this, but what do you do when they don't have a connection from their reading that day. They may well be reading a book and not have a connection so what do I do then? This is the 3rd year I've taught with the comprehension strategies and a reader's workshop and I LOVE it. However, sometimes I still get stuck. I'm trying to think of stories that they could really make connections with that they could read with a partner AND I'd have enough copies of. My other thought (I just had it now) was to move ahead with t-t and t-w connections and then have them do the writing with a partner and independently. They might have a greater chance of making a connection then. Am I rambling?...I feel like I'm rambling. Someone help me before my head explodes! haha. I'm not really stressed...just need your wonderful, knowledgeable opinions! thanks ever so, Wendy ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Schema/Connections
-Original Message- From: Wendy Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Sent: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 6:18 pm Subject: [MOSAIC] Schema/Connections re: They may well be reading a book and not have a connection so what do I do then? Broaden their understanding of 'connection.'? So often the children think a T-S connection has to be to an 'event.'? Model for them connecting to the character's feelings; the character traits; the bigger idea; it deepens their understanding, drives them right to why characters do what they do, and avoids those connections that are not helpful. One of my first grade teachers did a great job with the students after reading Alexander and the No Good, Horrible, Terrible Day (I always mess up the title!).? Every child has had a bad day at some point.? Once they'd made that kind of connection, they could really understand Alexander better! Hope that helps. m. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] Inference
Hi-- I am an elementary principal at a private school in Los Angeles and am new to this list serve. Today I began working with my faculty on inference. We got into a lengthy discussion about whether a prediction is in fact an inference or the result of an inference. I was wondering if anyone has some thoughts on this topic. Does anyone have any good resources/picture books for the study of inference? Thanks, Shelley Lawrence Lower School Director Sinai Akiba Academy Los Angeles, Ca ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Schema/Connections
Bev's response to Wendy - One of the strengths of Talking, Drawing, Writing is this very issue. They (TC people - Horn and Giacobbe) very carefully model, share, guide the connections made by each of us that ARE NOT similar in content, just in connection. For instance, if a teachers models telling a story about saving up to buy a stuffed animal and then finding they were all sold out should lead a child to respond with their stories, NOT about piggybanks or the stuffed animals they own, but about disappointment. Of course, I'm completely stripped it of its brilliance by "summarizing" it here, but you may be able to get the picture. And this is what they expect from, and have done with, kindergartners! Any teacher who gets these kindergartners as fourth graders should not have to do deep-level instruction with a reading response journal--they've grown up with it!! Another way to state it is probably that if you have been working on summarizing, and the teacher has modeled summarizing characteristics of mammals, certainly students should be expected to summarize not only books about mammals, or animals, or living things, or scientifically-categorized things. The constant (and framework) is the summarizing; the vehicle can be found through using many, many, many texts. Actually, most. Interesting how sometimes we have high expectations for kids and sometimes we only think we do. You can tell what a person believes more often by what they do than by what they say. Walk the walk here? Bev > From: Wendy Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]> re: They may well be reading a book and not have a connection so what do I do then? > Broaden their understanding of 'connection.'? So often the children think a T-S connection has to be to an 'event.'? Model for them connecting to the character's feelings; the character traits; the bigger idea; it deepens their understanding, drives them right to why characters do what they do, and avoids those connections that are not helpful.> > One of my first grade teachers did a great job with the students after reading Alexander and the No Good, Horrible, Terrible Day (I always mess up the title!).? Every child has had a bad day at some point.? Once they'd made that kind of connection, they could really understand Alexander better! ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Inference
Bev's response - I think it's the age-old chicken and egg story. On one hand, the prediction might be something you make before you engage in reading, inquiry, whatever, and then the inference is what you gather after having read the text. The text may have implied something and you inferred that's what it was. On the other hand, you may infer something before you engage in inquiry, reading, whatever and the text, that causes you to predict, then the reading of the text/investigation/whatever will allow you to confirm or reject that prediction, often through inference. It's an interesting topic, huh? > I am an elementary principal at a private school in Los Angeles and am new > to this list serve. Today I began working with my faculty on inference. We > got into a lengthy discussion about whether a prediction is in fact an > inference or the result of an inference. I was wondering if anyone has some > thoughts on this topic. Does anyone have any good resources/picture books for the > study of inference? > > Thanks,> > Shelley Lawrence ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Inference
I, too, struggled with the difference between an inference and prediction. However, the more I researched, I see the difference. Especially in listening to children. Inference is when a reader takes ones own experience and background knowledge to "infer" meaning. A prediction is "guessing" based on a pattern or sequence. For example, if I see a person driving a minivan, I would "infer" that they have a large family because in my experience most of the people I know with large families drive large cars. If it has been raining everyday at 3pm, I would "predict" that it will rain today at 3pm. Does that make sense? Christina > Hi-- > > I am an elementary principal at a private school in Los Angeles and am new > to this list serve. Today I began working with my faculty on inference. > We > got into a lengthy discussion about whether a prediction is in fact an > inference or the result of an inference. I was wondering if anyone has > some > thoughts on this topic. Does anyone have any good resources/picture > books for the > study of inference? > > Thanks, > > Shelley Lawrence > Lower School Director > Sinai Akiba Academy > Los Angeles, Ca > > > > ** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Inference
I, too, struggled with the difference between an inference and prediction. However, the more I researched, I see the difference. Especially in listening to children. Inference is when a reader takes ones own experience and background knowledge to "infer" meaning. A prediction is "guessing" based on a pattern or sequence. For example, if I see a person driving a minivan, I would "infer" that they have a large family because in my experience most of the people I know with large families drive large cars. If it has been raining everyday at 3pm, I would "predict" that it will rain today at 3pm. Does that make sense? Christina > Hi-- > > I am an elementary principal at a private school in Los Angeles and am new > to this list serve. Today I began working with my faculty on inference. > We > got into a lengthy discussion about whether a prediction is in fact an > inference or the result of an inference. I was wondering if anyone has > some > thoughts on this topic. Does anyone have any good resources/picture > books for the > study of inference? > > Thanks, > > Shelley Lawrence > Lower School Director > Sinai Akiba Academy > Los Angeles, Ca > > > > ** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Inference
I believe that prediction a kind of inference. Right? Les ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
