Re: [MOSAIC] Interventions

2009-01-18 Thread Patricia Kimathi
Interestingly the clearinghouse also said Read Naturally was not  
effective, but it works for my students. Maybe because I read it as a  
repeated reading  and questioning writing model.  The children love  
that it increases their speed. I like it because it models reading with  
expression.   They learn to slow down for comprehension.  We play  
around with it and they eventually write their own questions.  The  
parents also time them at home looking for expression instead of speed  
reading

How do you do your repeated reading.
Pat K

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and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest  
battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting.


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On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:44 PM, rogers...@comcast.net wrote:




We mostly use repeated reading which is research based.  Some groups  
who are not working on fluency use a packaged program (Soar to  
Success- the district provided it for every grade level through our  
latest reading adoption and it is not a good program) because the  
district says that the law says it must be a research based program  
delivered with fidelity.  My school has no money but we are making  
great strides with repeated reading and guided reading.  The thing is  
most of the research behind the programs is insignificant and usually  
conducted by the company.  If you go to the WHat works clearinghouse  
you will see that Voyager, an intervention program highly  pushed in  
our district is not a very effective program unless you are working on  
alphabetics.  Interestingly enough DIBELS and Voyager come from the  
same company.




Susan




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From: Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group  
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:02:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Interventions

So...I'm rapidly forming a picture that I'm hoping is premature and
incorrect:  Do almost all of you do purchased programs for  
interventions?
I'd love to hear from some of you who provide increased instruction  
within

your existing literacy program, or smaller groups, or individual
help...something that increases the engaged time but isn't really a
program?

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:23 PM, re...@aol.com wrote:



 Thanks, Jen, for your reply.? I'll look into SIPPS.? We've been  
talking
about Fundations for gr. 1 students who are struggling with fluency  
and
cracking that code.? Wilson is painful, but for the 2 second grade  
students
I have in it who are getting great instruction in comprehension and  
leveled

text in class, it's working.? And they're so proud of themselves!
Martha







-Original Message-
From: cnjpal...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Interventions











 Martha
I do mainly the in class support and I supervise and train the staff
 working
in the intervention programs. I do an occasional pull out group to  
 learn

the
programs I must supervise. I am Wilson trained, but only two  special
educators are using it with a few tough cases. I cannot take teaching  
 it.

I
like
SIPPS the best of all of them... (SIPPS stands for Systematic  
 Instruction

in
Phonics Phonemic Awareness and Sight words.) They do not  pretend to  
teach
comprehension and I don't agree with all of the philosophy  behind  
it. I

think
that
some of the research they quote in the  rationale was misinterpreted.  
With
some tweaking though, it has some  good aspects when combined with  
balanced
literacy instruction in the  classroom. The aides can do SIPPS with  
some
supervision. We are seeing some  results in first grade...less in  
second

and
third but
that makes sense since  research tells us that phonics instruction is
really
only effective in grade K  and 1.

Fundations, (Wilson for primary) is working well in Kindergarten (I am
coteaching this one) for 20 minutes a day...but again, the teachers  
in K

are
very
strong in teaching comprehension at other times during the day. It  
seems to
have escaped the deadly slow pace of Wilson for intermediate aged  
kids.


The jury is out on Fluency Formula but Soar to Success seems to be  
keeping
our kids with comprehension problems reading and interested. With a  
very

few
tweaks, it requires kids to actually think!
Jennifer


 The effectiveness of the intervention is depending upon In a message
 dated
1/13/2009 10:03:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, re...@aol.com writes:

That  said...
Would you share with us which of your interventions programs you  
 find work

best at which grade levels??
How did you determine which program  to use with particular students??
Would you also clarifydo the IA's do  Wilson, etc. and you do the  
in

class support or do you do both??

-Martha




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Re: [MOSAIC] Interventions - what about older kids

2009-01-18 Thread PAltm81324
I teach in a middle school and have 6th and 8th graders who are in AIS 
(academic intervention services) classes.   For those of you that teach this 
age 
level, what are you doing in your class?   I find 8th grade the most difficult 
due to the age.

Pat
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Re: [MOSAIC] DIBELS attn especially Michigan teachers

2009-01-18 Thread Heather Green
I am also in MI. 1st grade. We do not do dibels, and I really don't even
know what they are.  Our class sizes are 23 for 1st, 24 for 2nd grade. Wow,
didn't realize it differed so much even within the same state.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:29 PM, rogers...@comcast.net wrote:



 Richard Allington spoke at the International Reading Conference in
 Nashville in November.  He mentioned in his session that there is a
 lawsuit in Florida over DIBELS and that they are not using the assessment
 because of the lawsuit.  I have not been able to find any information about
 this online but I thought it was very interesting.  He also mentioned that
 the Reading First initiative is ending at the end of the year because it has
 not proven effective.  Does anyone know anything about either of these?



 Susan

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Re: [MOSAIC] RTI Interventions

2009-01-18 Thread pat wilson
Do the teachers administer running records or accuracy checks on the second 
read of the student's small group reading book?  If they students are reading 
on grade level, then these assessments should show they are reading the text at 
95% or higher.  I would also suggest using a comprehension rubric to make sure 
they are able to comprehend this grade level text. 
 
I am finding that the students that aren't able to meet the benchmark really 
have a decoding issue that is keeping them from fluently decoding the passage. 
So, they receive targeted interventions and move out of them asap.

Trish
 
 
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From: mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org on behalf of rogers...@comcast.net
Sent: Sat, 1/17/2009 9:38pm
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RTI Interventions 
 
 
We use DIBELS as our universal screener and I hate it!  We have students in our 
school who have to participate in intervention groups who are reading on grade 
level just not fast enough to benchmark in DIBELS.  



Susan 



Original Message - 
From: Deb Green dgreen81...@gmail.com 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org 
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:00:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MOSAIC] RTI Interventions 

One question I have is what is everyone using for universal screeners that 
shows increments of change?  (beyond the obvious OBS/DRA etc.) 
Thanks, Deb G 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.comwrote: 

 So...I'm rapidly forming a picture that I'm hoping is premature and 
 incorrect:  Do almost all of you do purchased programs for interventions? 
 I'd love to hear from some of you who provide increased instruction within 
 your existing literacy program, or smaller groups, or individual 
 help...something that increases the engaged time but isn't really a 
 program? 
 
 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:23 PM, re...@aol.com wrote: 
 
  
   Thanks, Jen, for your reply.? I'll look into SIPPS.? We've been talking 
  about Fundations for gr. 1 students who are struggling with fluency and 
  cracking that code.? Wilson is painful, but for the 2 second grade 
 students 
  I have in it who are getting great instruction in comprehension and 
 leveled 
  text in class, it's working.? And they're so proud of themselves! 
  Martha 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message- 
  From: cnjpal...@aol.com 
  To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org 
  Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 8:39 pm 
  Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Interventions 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Martha 
  I do mainly the in class support and I supervise and train the staff 
   working 
  in the intervention programs. I do an occasional pull out group to  learn 
  the 
  programs I must supervise. I am Wilson trained, but only two  special 
  educators are using it with a few tough cases. I cannot take teaching 
  it. 
  I 
  like 
  SIPPS the best of all of them... (SIPPS stands for Systematic 
  Instruction 
  in 
  Phonics Phonemic Awareness and Sight words.) They do not  pretend to 
 teach 
  comprehension and I don't agree with all of the philosophy  behind it. I 
  think 
  that 
  some of the research they quote in the  rationale was misinterpreted. 
 With 
  some tweaking though, it has some  good aspects when combined with 
 balanced 
  literacy instruction in the  classroom. The aides can do SIPPS with some 
  supervision. We are seeing some  results in first grade...less in second 
  and 
  third but 
  that makes sense since  research tells us that phonics instruction is 
  really 
  only effective in grade K  and 1. 
  
  Fundations, (Wilson for primary) is working well in Kindergarten (I am 
  coteaching this one) for 20 minutes a day...but again, the teachers in K 
  are 
  very 
  strong in teaching comprehension at other times during the day. It seems 
 to 
  have escaped the deadly slow pace of Wilson for intermediate aged kids. 
  
  The jury is out on Fluency Formula but Soar to Success seems to be 
 keeping 
  our kids with comprehension problems reading and interested. With a very 
  few 
  tweaks, it requires kids to actually think! 
  Jennifer 
  
  
   The effectiveness of the intervention is depending upon In a message 
   dated 
  1/13/2009 10:03:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, re...@aol.com writes: 
  
  That  said... 
  Would you share with us which of your interventions programs you  find 
 work 
  best at which grade levels?? 
  How did you determine which program  to use with particular students?? 
  Would you also clarifydo the IA's do  Wilson, etc. and you do the in 
  class support or do you do both?? 
  
  -Martha 
  
  
  
  
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Re: [MOSAIC] workshop

2009-01-18 Thread Renee

Hello Jan,

I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about readers' and  
writers' workshops, especially regarding when they should start or  
which should go first. There are so many ways to run these workshops,  
and so many ways to implement them, that these answers really depend on  
the students involved.


Speaking only for myself, I can say that readers' and writers'  
workshops have looked differently in my classroom in different years  
and with different grade levels. What I think works is for a teacher to  
decide on the goals and then just give it a try.


Having said all that, I can also say that what has worked for me in the  
past is to try to keep it as simple as possible, to make sure that I  
build independent work skills into the students, and be willing to  
change the structure if it isn't working in some way.


:-)
Renee

On Jan 17, 2009, at 5:53 PM, wr...@att.net wrote:

I am some more questions about workshop.  They are all related.  I  
should probably add that I teach middle school.


Is it necessary to start writing workshop years before a school starts  
reading workshop?  Does it matter which goes first?  Can teachers  
start both in the same year?

Is it necessary to have workshop during the majority of class time?

Thanks for letting me know what has worked for you.
Jan


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Re: [MOSAIC] RtI

2009-01-18 Thread gina nunley

This is more addressed to secondary teachers, and is not directly related to 
mosaic of thought, so I promise this will be my only discussion on this site, 
but it seemed appropriate with all the RtI discussion.  If you want to e-mail 
me about this privately I am glad to talk.
 
 As you read the national reports on RtI you'll see that not only are you 
offering a continum of services, beginning in the classroom and building with 
additional (outside of the gen ed classroom)  time in smaller groups, but you 
need to be using methods that are researched based.  I know that is a can of 
worms, but I am very comfortable with one model, that is even cited in some of 
the national material.
 
The Strategic Instruction Model comes out of the University of Kansas in 
Lawrence.  They understood the need for an RtI model before we were talking 
about it and have spent 30 years research validating their instructional 
strategies to address struggling learners in this time of information explosion.
 
If you're interested in knowing more this is a good webiste
 
http://www.kucrl.org/
 
Go to the bottom and click SIM
 
This model utlizes 2 arms...there are instructional routines for the gen. ed 
classroom to make curriculum access easier for all students, especially 
struggling.  And then for student who prove to need more there are Learning 
Strategies.  Every resource/inclusion/reading teacher I've known to use the 
strategies tells me it was the first time they knew they were given the 
students a strategy that was going to serve them year after year in almost all 
content areas.
 
You can contact KU to obtain information on using it at your site.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] RTI Interventions

2009-01-18 Thread Mary Ann

 We have similar situations with TPRI.? This is where teacher judgment is 
needed.? 


 


Mary Ann Prevatte





 


 

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From: rogers...@comcast.net
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mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RTI Interventions












We use DIBELS as our universal screener and I hate it!? We have students in our 
school who have to participate in intervention groups who are reading on grade 
level just not fast enough to benchmark in DIBELS.? 



Susan 



Original Message - 
From: Deb Green dgreen81...@gmail.com 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org 
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:00:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MOSAIC] RTI Interventions 

One question I have is what is everyone using for universal screeners that 
shows increments of change? ?(beyond the obvious OBS/DRA etc.) 
Thanks, Deb G 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.comwrote: 

 So...I'm rapidly forming a picture that I'm hoping is premature and 
 incorrect: ?Do almost all of you do purchased programs for interventions? 
 I'd love to hear from some of you who provide increased instruction within 
 your existing literacy program, or smaller groups, or individual 
 help...something that increases the engaged time but isn't really a 
 program? 
 
 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:23 PM, re...@aol.com wrote: 
 
  
  ?Thanks, Jen, for your reply.? I'll look into SIPPS.? We've been talking 
  about Fundations for gr. 1 students who are struggling with fluency and 
  cracking that code.? Wilson is painful, but for the 2 second grade 
 students 
  I have in it who are getting great instruction in comprehension and 
 leveled 
  text in class, it's working.? And they're so proud of themselves! 
  Martha 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message- 
  From: cnjpal...@aol.com 
  To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org 
  Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 8:39 pm 
  Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Interventions 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ?Martha 
  I do mainly the in class support and I supervise and train the staff 
  ?working 
  in the intervention programs. I do an occasional pull out group to ?learn 
  the 
  programs I must supervise. I am Wilson trained, but only two ?special 
  educators are using it with a few tough cases. I cannot take teaching 
 ?it. 
  I 
  like 
  SIPPS the best of all of them... (SIPPS stands for Systematic 
 ?Instruction 
  in 
  Phonics Phonemic Awareness and Sight words.) They do not ?pretend to 
 teach 
  comprehension and I don't agree with all of the philosophy ?behind it. I 
  think 
  that 
  some of the research they quote in the ?rationale was misinterpreted. 
 With 
  some tweaking though, it has some ?good aspects when combined with 
 balanced 
  literacy instruction in the ?classroom. The aides can do SIPPS with some 
  supervision. We are seeing some ?results in first grade...less in second 
  and 
  third but 
  that makes sense since ?research tells us that phonics instruction is 
  really 
  only effective in grade K ?and 1. 
  
  Fundations, (Wilson for primary) is working well in Kindergarten (I am 
  coteaching this one) for 20 minutes a day...but again, the teachers in K 
  are 
  very 
  strong in teaching comprehension at other times during the day. It seems 
 to 
  have escaped the deadly slow pace of Wilson for intermediate aged kids. 
  
  The jury is out on Fluency Formula but Soar to Success seems to be 
 keeping 
  our kids with comprehension problems reading and interested. With a very 
  few 
  tweaks, it requires kids to actually think! 
  Jennifer 
  
  
  ?The effectiveness of the intervention is depending upon In a message 
  ?dated 
  1/13/2009 10:03:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, re...@aol.com writes: 
  
  That ?said... 
  Would you share with us which of your interventions programs you ?find 
 work 
  best at which grade levels?? 
  How did you determine which program ?to use with particular students?? 
  Would you also clarifydo the IA's do ?Wilson, etc. and you do the in 
  class support or do you do both?? 
  
  -Martha 
  
  
  
  
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2009-01-18 Thread Deb
First Grade Teachers: An online community for first grade teachers and support 
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Re: [MOSAIC] workshop

2009-01-18 Thread write
Thank you, Renee, for your ideas.

I noticed that in writers workshop in all the classes I visited students were 
writing about themselves, which is all they seem to do in all three years at 
the middle school I visited.  

I'd like my students to be able to write a research paper.  I guess that if 
there are not any hard and fast rules, then I can use the workshop format to 
teach a research paper.  That's good news for me.
Jan
 

- Original message from Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net: 
-


 Hello Jan,
 
 I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about readers' and  
 writers' workshops, especially regarding when they should start or  
 which should go first. There are so many ways to run these workshops,  
 and so many ways to implement them, that these answers really depend on  
 the students involved.
 
 Speaking only for myself, I can say that readers' and writers'  
 workshops have looked differently in my classroom in different years  
 and with different grade levels. What I think works is for a teacher to  
 decide on the goals and then just give it a try.
 
 Having said all that, I can also say that what has worked for me in the  
 past is to try to keep it as simple as possible, to make sure that I  
 build independent work skills into the students, and be willing to  
 change the structure if it isn't working in some way.
 
 :-)
 Renee
 
 On Jan 17, 2009, at 5:53 PM, wr...@att.net wrote:
 
  I am some more questions about workshop.  They are all related.  I  
  should probably add that I teach middle school.
 
  Is it necessary to start writing workshop years before a school starts  
  reading workshop?  Does it matter which goes first?  Can teachers  
  start both in the same year?
  Is it necessary to have workshop during the majority of class time?
   Thanks for letting me know what has worked for you.
  Jan
 
 
 
 When  you learn, teach. When you get, give.
 ~ Maya Angelou


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Re: [MOSAIC] workshop

2009-01-18 Thread beverleepaul
Don't forget that there are building steps to any project.  You can't start 
with the end.
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From: wr...@att.net

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:20:56 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies 
EmailGroupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] workshop


Thank you, Renee, for your ideas.

I noticed that in writers workshop in all the classes I visited students were 
writing about themselves, which is all they seem to do in all three years at 
the middle school I visited.  

I'd like my students to be able to write a research paper.  I guess that if 
there are not any hard and fast rules, then I can use the workshop format to 
teach a research paper.  That's good news for me.
Jan
 

- Original message from Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net: 
-


 Hello Jan,
 
 I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about readers' and  
 writers' workshops, especially regarding when they should start or  
 which should go first. There are so many ways to run these workshops,  
 and so many ways to implement them, that these answers really depend on  
 the students involved.
 
 Speaking only for myself, I can say that readers' and writers'  
 workshops have looked differently in my classroom in different years  
 and with different grade levels. What I think works is for a teacher to  
 decide on the goals and then just give it a try.
 
 Having said all that, I can also say that what has worked for me in the  
 past is to try to keep it as simple as possible, to make sure that I  
 build independent work skills into the students, and be willing to  
 change the structure if it isn't working in some way.
 
 :-)
 Renee
 
 On Jan 17, 2009, at 5:53 PM, wr...@att.net wrote:
 
  I am some more questions about workshop.  They are all related.  I  
  should probably add that I teach middle school.
 
  Is it necessary to start writing workshop years before a school starts  
  reading workshop?  Does it matter which goes first?  Can teachers  
  start both in the same year?
  Is it necessary to have workshop during the majority of class time?
   Thanks for letting me know what has worked for you.
  Jan
 
 
 
 When  you learn, teach. When you get, give.
 ~ Maya Angelou


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Re: [MOSAIC] new to intermediate

2009-01-18 Thread rkheim
Deb - 
Have you thought of using short story, poetry, and non-fiction text for your 
grade level and above readers for reading group selections, and having them 
form book clubs and choosing independent text for classroom reading?  Book 
clubs are a way for students to read longer text and experience the social 
context of reading.
Kathy
-- Original message from Deb Stoner dsto...@insight.rr.com: 
-- 


 I'm new to teaching 4th grade--coming from second/third for 15 years. Now 
 that we are midway thru the year and a good amount of my students are on 
 level or above. My question is this---I'm stuggling with how to incorporate 
 longer chapter books into my guided reading sessions. It seems that by the 
 time I get back to the group--sometimes a week later, I'm afraid students 
 will loose momentum for the text. I've always taught my guided reading 
 groups with shorter texts, and still do. However, I'm running out of those 
 multi copy options from our bookroom as students move up in level . How do 
 you keep the chapter book groups going that don't meet with you every day? 
 Do you always assign them chapters to read on the days in between? 
 thanks in advance for your help 
 Deb 
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Re: [MOSAIC] workshop

2009-01-18 Thread ljackson
While I think this is and should be true--that we teach research writing in
LA classes, we cannot forget the role that research and writing ought to be
playing in content area writing class. None of my children have ever written
research papers INSIDE content area classes, which I think is truly
appalling.

Lori


On 1/18/09 6:20 PM, wr...@att.net wr...@att.net wrote:

 Thank you, Renee, for your ideas.
 
 I noticed that in writers workshop in all the classes I visited students were
 writing about themselves, which is all they seem to do in all three years at
 the middle school I visited.
 
 I'd like my students to be able to write a research paper.  I guess that if
 there are not any hard and fast rules, then I can use the workshop format to
 teach a research paper.  That's good news for me.
 Jan
  
 
 - Original message from Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net:
 -
 
 
 Hello Jan,
 
 I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about readers' and
 writers' workshops, especially regarding when they should start or
 which should go first. There are so many ways to run these workshops,
 and so many ways to implement them, that these answers really depend on
 the students involved.
 
 Speaking only for myself, I can say that readers' and writers'
 workshops have looked differently in my classroom in different years
 and with different grade levels. What I think works is for a teacher to
 decide on the goals and then just give it a try.
 
 Having said all that, I can also say that what has worked for me in the
 past is to try to keep it as simple as possible, to make sure that I
 build independent work skills into the students, and be willing to
 change the structure if it isn't working in some way.
 
 :-)
 Renee
 
 On Jan 17, 2009, at 5:53 PM, wr...@att.net wrote:
 
 I am some more questions about workshop.  They are all related.  I
 should probably add that I teach middle school.
 
 Is it necessary to start writing workshop years before a school starts
 reading workshop?  Does it matter which goes first?  Can teachers
 start both in the same year?
 Is it necessary to have workshop during the majority of class time?
 Thanks for letting me know what has worked for you.
 Jan
 
 
 
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