Re: [MOSAIC] RTI - Any info on AIMS Web?

2010-02-10 Thread Barbara Underdown
This is our first year using AIMSWeb at the middle school.  It is helping us 
to identify students who may need an interventionbut we use additional 
data to make those decisions.  We have made errors with student placements 
into interventions, but it is a starting point.  All students get the MAZE 
three times per year.  Students who score in the bottom 25% get a CBM.  Then 
we look at their CBMs and other data to decide further action.


The jury is still out as far as whether or not it has been useful.  I feel 
that perhaps we could be doing the same thing by more closely analyzing the 
data we already have.  Our students are tested to death...MAPS 3 times per 
year, ISAT, and AIMSweb 3 times per year.  TOO MUCH!


Barb

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:20:36 -0600
 reading readingwritingliter...@gmail.com wrote:

We use it at the middle school level. I find it's not especially useful for
this age group/reading development. I feel where most of our kids struggle
is with critical thinking - something that the maze and fluency piece don't
measure. I feel that some of our kids who are identified at first, learn
how to do these probes but not necessarily how to read better. Does this
make sense? Does anyone else use it at the middle school level? Or do you
use something else?
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Barb Underdown
Literacy Staff Developer
Mannheim Middle School
Melrose Park, IL  60164
847-455-5020

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Re: [MOSAIC] RTI - Any info on AIMS Web?

2010-02-10 Thread Lisa McGilloway
Thanks for those answers, Jeanne.  I too agree that we are spending way too 
much time testing students when we could be teaching them.  Thanks to our state 
and federal governments for that.  When will they ask teachers how to handle 
these things?
    Lisa

--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Jeanne Crider jeann...@charter.net wrote:


From: Jeanne Crider jeann...@charter.net
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RTI - Any info on AIMS Web?
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 9:39 PM


I'm not a classroom teacher, I'm a reading specialist.  We use Everyday Math 
and I know the 1st grade teachers I work with don't like the math portion of 
the AIMS Web.

Generating reports is very easy but as others mentioned earlier, we already 
have information about who needs help and who is doing okay.  It's just 3 days 
per year I don't get to teach because I'm testing.  Between benchmarking 3 
times per year and all the progress monitoring the teachers have to do, there 
is less time for them to teach too.  The poor students are yet again tested.  
The poor things, in my opinion are already over tested.

After giving the AIMS Web, in my school anyway, we then pick interventions that 
are researched based one size fits all programs.  They may be implemented by 
a teacher, a 5th grader, a HS student, a computer program or just about anyone 
or anything they can get their hands on.  Isn't that grand!

Another thing that someone else mentioned, I'm noticing too.  It seems like the 
students who we see as doing well in the classroom don't necessarily do well on 
the test and vice versa.  Students who self-correct while reading or think 
about meaning don't do as well because the timed reading portion is all based 
on speed.  Isn't that what we want students to do when they are reading, read 
really fast and not think about what they are reading? (JK!) Argh!
- Original Message - From: Lisa McGilloway lisamcgill...@yahoo.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RTI - Any info on AIMS Web?


Thanks so much for the response about AIMS web. If you have a minute I have a 
few other questions: Do you find it easy to use and generate reports? What do 
you think of the comprehension piece (not sure what a comprehension 'maze' 
is?)? What about the Math portion? We use Everyday Math and I am curious as to 
how it may correlate with that.

Thanks so much for any information you can share! Lisa

--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Yingling yingli...@frontiernet.net wrote:


From: Yingling yingli...@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RTI - Any info on AIMS Web?
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 1:35 PM


We've been using AIMSWeb for 3 years now for at least K-5 (I think maybe higher 
also). The fluency CBMs are just like DIBELS. Aimsweb also has a comprehension 
maze test and a couple of math tests. It gives a lot of reports as to how a 
student is doing based on class, school, etc... It's an okay start as to 
identifying students for RTI services. I don't think you should use it solely 
to place students into RTI intervention groups.

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