Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-08-08 Thread SooZQ55164
Read the Book Whisper and you will change your opinion of SSR if you  
haven't seen the value of it in the past.
Sue
 
 
In a message dated 8/7/2009 11:45:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lstew...@branford.k12.ct.us writes:

"And is  it really fair to force students to sit and read quietly if they 
sincerely  struggle with it or genuinely don't like it?"
Amber,
You can approach  SSR non-traditionally.  Once you get to know your 
children and their  reading styles, you can pair those who struggle with a 
stronger 
student who  loves to read aloud or you can pair two struggling readers 
together with a  book of funny poems.  I have yet to encounter a student who 
didn't enjoy  a good story.  You can also find books on the struggling 
reader's level  or let that child read with you.  There are many ways to bring 
"reading"  for pure enjoyment to your students.   I do play music in my  
classroom during this time but I allow kids to read in the hallway away from  
the 
music or in the corner library in our room which is buffered by bookcases  
and a quieter spot.  If someone had offered you a wonderfully written and  
illustrated science picture book would you have enjoyed reading that without  
being forced?  Just curious.

Leslie 
Grade 3  Teacher
lstew...@branford.k12.ct.us
203-481-5386, 203-483-0749  FAX

To feel most beautifully alive means to be reading something  beautiful,  
ready always to apprehend in the flow of language the sudden  flash of 
poetry.  ~ Gaston Bachelard  ~

From:  mosaic-bounces+lstewart=branford.k12.ct...@literacyworkshop.org  
[mosaic-bounces+lstewart=branford.k12.ct...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of  
Amber Marie Daniels [ai5...@wayne.edu]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:16  PM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject:  [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

Hello everyone,

My name is  Amber Daniels and I am a senior at Wayne State University, 
majoring in  Elementary Science.  Going back to the discussion about SSR, how 
can we  effectively monitor students to ensure that they are reading?  Just  
because students are looking at pages, and even turning them, doesn't mean  
that they are reading them.  And is it really fair to force students to  sit 
and read quietly if they sincerely struggle with it or genuinely don't  like 
it?  I'm an adult and don't read for enjoyment, only  necessity.  I have 
had the pleasure of enjoying a good book (that I was  forced to read) but just 
don't enjoy reading.  Also, when I read, I can  only do it with some type 
of background noise. What are your  thoughts?


Thank  You,

Amber
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-08-07 Thread Beverlee Paul
It would be inspirational to you, I think, Amber, to read The Reading Zone
by Nancie Atwell.  It's not a long book and it might open up a world of
opportunities to you.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Stewart, L wrote:

> "And is it really fair to force students to sit and read quietly if they
> sincerely struggle with it or genuinely don't like it?"
> Amber,
> You can approach SSR non-traditionally.  Once you get to know your children
> and their reading styles, you can pair those who struggle with a stronger
> student who loves to read aloud or you can pair two struggling readers
> together with a book of funny poems.  I have yet to encounter a student who
> didn't enjoy a good story.  You can also find books on the struggling
> reader's level or let that child read with you.  There are many ways to
> bring "reading" for pure enjoyment to your students.   I do play music in my
> classroom during this time but I allow kids to read in the hallway away from
> the music or in the corner library in our room which is buffered by
> bookcases and a quieter spot.  If someone had offered you a wonderfully
> written and illustrated science picture book would you have enjoyed reading
> that without being forced?  Just curious.
>
> Leslie
> Grade 3 Teacher
> lstew...@branford.k12.ct.us
> 203-481-5386, 203-483-0749 FAX
>
> To feel most beautifully alive means to be reading something beautiful,
>  ready always to apprehend in the flow of language the sudden flash of
> poetry.  ~ Gaston Bachelard ~
> 
> From: 
> mosaic-bounces+lstewart=branford.k12.ct...@literacyworkshop.org[mosaic-bounces+lstewart=
> branford.k12.ct...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of Amber Marie Daniels
> [ai5...@wayne.edu]
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:16 PM
> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
> Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Amber Daniels and I am a senior at Wayne State University,
> majoring in Elementary Science.  Going back to the discussion about SSR, how
> can we effectively monitor students to ensure that they are reading?  Just
> because students are looking at pages, and even turning them, doesn't mean
> that they are reading them.  And is it really fair to force students to sit
> and read quietly if they sincerely struggle with it or genuinely don't like
> it?  I'm an adult and don't read for enjoyment, only necessity.  I have had
> the pleasure of enjoying a good book (that I was forced to read) but just
> don't enjoy reading.  Also, when I read, I can only do it with some type of
> background noise. What are your thoughts?
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Amber
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-08-07 Thread Stewart, L
"And is it really fair to force students to sit and read quietly if they 
sincerely struggle with it or genuinely don't like it?"
Amber,
You can approach SSR non-traditionally.  Once you get to know your children and 
their reading styles, you can pair those who struggle with a stronger student 
who loves to read aloud or you can pair two struggling readers together with a 
book of funny poems.  I have yet to encounter a student who didn't enjoy a good 
story.  You can also find books on the struggling reader's level or let that 
child read with you.  There are many ways to bring "reading" for pure enjoyment 
to your students.   I do play music in my classroom during this time but I 
allow kids to read in the hallway away from the music or in the corner library 
in our room which is buffered by bookcases and a quieter spot.  If someone had 
offered you a wonderfully written and illustrated science picture book would 
you have enjoyed reading that without being forced?  Just curious.

Leslie 
Grade 3 Teacher
lstew...@branford.k12.ct.us
203-481-5386, 203-483-0749 FAX

To feel most beautifully alive means to be reading something beautiful,  ready 
always to apprehend in the flow of language the sudden flash of poetry.  ~ 
Gaston Bachelard ~

From: mosaic-bounces+lstewart=branford.k12.ct...@literacyworkshop.org 
[mosaic-bounces+lstewart=branford.k12.ct...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of 
Amber Marie Daniels [ai5...@wayne.edu]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:16 PM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

Hello everyone,

My name is Amber Daniels and I am a senior at Wayne State University, majoring 
in Elementary Science.  Going back to the discussion about SSR, how can we 
effectively monitor students to ensure that they are reading?  Just because 
students are looking at pages, and even turning them, doesn't mean that they 
are reading them.  And is it really fair to force students to sit and read 
quietly if they sincerely struggle with it or genuinely don't like it?  I'm an 
adult and don't read for enjoyment, only necessity.  I have had the pleasure of 
enjoying a good book (that I was forced to read) but just don't enjoy reading.  
Also, when I read, I can only do it with some type of background noise. What 
are your thoughts?


Thank You,

Amber
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[MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-08-07 Thread Amber Marie Daniels
Hello everyone,

My name is Amber Daniels and I am a senior at Wayne State University, majoring 
in Elementary Science.  Going back to the discussion about SSR, how can we 
effectively monitor students to ensure that they are reading?  Just because 
students are looking at pages, and even turning them, doesn't mean that they 
are reading them.  And is it really fair to force students to sit and read 
quietly if they sincerely struggle with it or genuinely don't like it?  I'm an 
adult and don't read for enjoyment, only necessity.  I have had the pleasure of 
enjoying a good book (that I was forced to read) but just don't enjoy reading.  
Also, when I read, I can only do it with some type of background noise. What 
are your thoughts?


Thank You,

Amber
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[MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading for Older Kids

2009-07-15 Thread polajenko
Hi Everyone,

I'm new to the listserv and was just reading the discussions about SSR.  I
recently did a book talk on Marilyn Reynolds, I Won't Read and You Can't
Make Me.  She is all about SSR for older kids (middle and high school).
Reynolds was actually a pioneer in the movement.  If you get a chance to
check the book out it will be time well spent.  She even includes many
practical Tricks of Trade at the end of the book.

 

Enjoy,

Erika

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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-03 Thread kkey...@carolina.rr.com
I couldn't agree with you more about students NOT reading outside the
school.  We have to give them time to read (silently) during school the
things they want to read.  Otherwise, some of them will never open a book. 
Even though some require reading logs, it doesn't mean that they are really
reading.  I have parents sign reading logs just because it's a paper that
is supposed to be signed.  I get great results from my students by asking
what they think about a book at a time outside of reading.  They think I'm
really interested in what they are doing that way and they always come to
me afterwards and tell me what they are reading next.  That always says to
me that they care that I care.  Isn't that what we want?  I think so!  

KK

Original Message:
-
From:  rr1...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:34:00 -0400
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


When I was a new teacher I was given the following advice...If you 
expect students to do something, they will do it.  My students are 
required to read as their morning work.  They also read for about 20 
minutes during the literacy block.  There is accountability in the fact 
that we emphasize AR.  I also expect reading response journals to be 
completed several times during the week.  I believe giving kids time to 
read is the best thing we can do for them.  If I don't give it during 
school hours, some of them may never read by themselves.

Rosie

-Original Message-
From: linz...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

In response to the insights that everyone has given to me, I feel that 
most teachers don't monitor SSR and just leave it up their children to 
read during this block.? I was reading a book and it mentioned this 
problem and how a county actually got rid of it from their school day 
because it wasn't showing a huge difference in their test scores.? 
Students who don't like to read may just stare at the pages to let 
teachers think that they are reading.??IN conclusion- I just feel that 
if properly monitored, SSR can be a great tool to help reading scores 
go up.? If not,?that time could be used to teach.?


-Original Message-
From: lbu...@stny.rr.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading



Lisa,

With test scores and accountability, I am sure some teachers would say 
yes to
your question that we should be satisfied that kids read profiently.  I 
would
not- I want profient readers, but I want  kids to want to read.  I 
think people
on this list strive to help all kids get to that point that they choose 
to read.
By the end of the year, I can say that my kids love that independent 
time and it
was a time we all looked forward to each day.  Unfortunately, things 
can change
once they move on.  I often had sixth grade teachers ask why kids don't 
want to
read much anymore.  I stopped worrying about what comes after they 
leave my
room, I can't change that, but I can influence other teachers.

I have to say, after reading Ellin's books, I have initiated change in 
my
building.  More and more teachers have jumped in - which means more 
kids are
choosing to read.  More and more teachers have classroom libraries and 
more kids
are involved in strategies.  With this, there is more time given for 
independent
reading. I know at the end of the year, one fifth grade teacher said 
her kids
didn't want to leave until they finished a book.




Linda
 Lisa Szyska  wrote:
>
> I have a question in response to this question.
>
> Are we satisfied to create readers that can read proficiently, but 
who would
never choose to?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-03 Thread beverleepaul
And to add to that . . . I would say we're also obligated to give them books 
(or other text) appropriate for their interests and reading abilities.
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

-Original Message-
From: rr1...@aol.com

Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:34:00 
To: 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


When I was a new teacher I was given the following advice...If you 
expect students to do something, they will do it.  My students are 
required to read as their morning work.  They also read for about 20 
minutes during the literacy block.  There is accountability in the fact 
that we emphasize AR.  I also expect reading response journals to be 
completed several times during the week.  I believe giving kids time to 
read is the best thing we can do for them.  If I don't give it during 
school hours, some of them may never read by themselves.

Rosie

-Original Message-
From: linz...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

In response to the insights that everyone has given to me, I feel that 
most teachers don't monitor SSR and just leave it up their children to 
read during this block.? I was reading a book and it mentioned this 
problem and how a county actually got rid of it from their school day 
because it wasn't showing a huge difference in their test scores.? 
Students who don't like to read may just stare at the pages to let 
teachers think that they are reading.??IN conclusion- I just feel that 
if properly monitored, SSR can be a great tool to help reading scores 
go up.? If not,?that time could be used to teach.?


-Original Message-
From: lbu...@stny.rr.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading



Lisa,

With test scores and accountability, I am sure some teachers would say 
yes to
your question that we should be satisfied that kids read profiently.  I 
would
not- I want profient readers, but I want  kids to want to read.  I 
think people
on this list strive to help all kids get to that point that they choose 
to read.
By the end of the year, I can say that my kids love that independent 
time and it
was a time we all looked forward to each day.  Unfortunately, things 
can change
once they move on.  I often had sixth grade teachers ask why kids don't 
want to
read much anymore.  I stopped worrying about what comes after they 
leave my
room, I can't change that, but I can influence other teachers.

I have to say, after reading Ellin's books, I have initiated change in 
my
building.  More and more teachers have jumped in - which means more 
kids are
choosing to read.  More and more teachers have classroom libraries and 
more kids
are involved in strategies.  With this, there is more time given for 
independent
reading. I know at the end of the year, one fifth grade teacher said 
her kids
didn't want to leave until they finished a book.




Linda
 Lisa Szyska  wrote:
>
> I have a question in response to this question.
>
> Are we satisfied to create readers that can read proficiently, but 
who would
never choose to?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-03 Thread rr1981
When I was a new teacher I was given the following advice...If you 
expect students to do something, they will do it.  My students are 
required to read as their morning work.  They also read for about 20 
minutes during the literacy block.  There is accountability in the fact 
that we emphasize AR.  I also expect reading response journals to be 
completed several times during the week.  I believe giving kids time to 
read is the best thing we can do for them.  If I don't give it during 
school hours, some of them may never read by themselves.


Rosie

-Original Message-
From: linz...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

In response to the insights that everyone has given to me, I feel that 
most teachers don't monitor SSR and just leave it up their children to 
read during this block.? I was reading a book and it mentioned this 
problem and how a county actually got rid of it from their school day 
because it wasn't showing a huge difference in their test scores.? 
Students who don't like to read may just stare at the pages to let 
teachers think that they are reading.??IN conclusion- I just feel that 
if properly monitored, SSR can be a great tool to help reading scores 
go up.? If not,?that time could be used to teach.?



-Original Message-
From: lbu...@stny.rr.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading



Lisa,

With test scores and accountability, I am sure some teachers would say 
yes to
your question that we should be satisfied that kids read profiently.  I 
would
not- I want profient readers, but I want  kids to want to read.  I 
think people
on this list strive to help all kids get to that point that they choose 
to read.
By the end of the year, I can say that my kids love that independent 
time and it
was a time we all looked forward to each day.  Unfortunately, things 
can change
once they move on.  I often had sixth grade teachers ask why kids don't 
want to
read much anymore.  I stopped worrying about what comes after they 
leave my

room, I can't change that, but I can influence other teachers.

I have to say, after reading Ellin's books, I have initiated change in 
my
building.  More and more teachers have jumped in - which means more 
kids are
choosing to read.  More and more teachers have classroom libraries and 
more kids
are involved in strategies.  With this, there is more time given for 
independent
reading. I know at the end of the year, one fifth grade teacher said 
her kids

didn't want to leave until they finished a book.




Linda
 Lisa Szyska  wrote:


I have a question in response to this question.

Are we satisfied to create readers that can read proficiently, but 

who would
never choose to?








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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-03 Thread Joy
Renee,
You make such a good point, and I'm learning how true it is to step back and 
let the kids. lead me. It is astounding when you do this. This year I am going 
to try more and more to do this, making my lessons as mini as possible, 
allowing the students increasing amounts of time to actually DO what I am 
teaching them. As much as possible I am going to turn to inquiry, which I 
believe to be one of the major components of learning and understanding. Even 
my rubrics are going to have direct student input. 

 
Joy/NC/4
  

How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Renee 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:43:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want to see 
how this works out. :-)

Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group (which 
I started, and for which I was very selective on the people involved). There 
are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all read whatever we want 
and then come together to just share what we've read, whatever it is. Name a 
genre and at least one of us has read and shared. What's interesting though, is 
that with all the sharing of what's in the books and our impressions, we have 
also branched out into discussions of politics, religion, local issues, 
specific authors, death, Alzheimer's (one person in our group lost a husband to 
this insidious disease and we all shared the grief from its onset to his 
passing a couple of years later), food, art, . in other words you name 
it. Boy, do we make connections!

What I'm thinking is that the book sharing part. voluntary sharing is 
so valuable and so complex and can teach so much.

I was just thinking a while ago that some of the best teaching I've done was 
when I was not "teaching" at all.

:-)
Renee


On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:

> Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to change my 
> thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as an advantage.  I 
> guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using that time to "get things 
> done"--which is not what I have chosen to do with that time when I've given 
> it in the past.   Also, I just see so many of these struggling readers 
> lacking in basic comprehension skills, so I've decided in the past to replace 
> that "silent reading" time with a more structured approach. Students are 
> certainly doing a lot of reading in this approach, but not as much 
> self-selected--which is what I want them to get "hooked" on.   Many middle 
> schools have 2 periods to teaching reading and writing . . . whereas I'm 
> limited to just one.  So this is an added complication to make it through my 
> curriculum.  I'd love to add another class . . . but it might be a struggle.
> 
> Then of course there are the students who are scrambling to find a book two 
> minutes before class and reading something different every time.  So I'm 
> thinking that if I restructure my approach to silent reading, I might get 
> better results.  I'm planning on doing a "coffee shop" format with my 9th 
> graders this year--allowing them a modified reading time.  I thought that I 
> would alternate weeks--one day a week they would silent read self-selected 
> materials and the next week they would share in a group with 
> coffee/cocoa/cider?!  We have gender-grouped our 9th graders, so I will have 
> 23 girls.  I have never taught to just one gender, but since I will be doing 
> this, I thought I'd try to make it a bit "girlie".  Thank you for your ideas!
> 
> --
> From: "Renee" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:54 AM
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> 
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
> 
>> Hi there Mark and/or Rachele'
>> 
>> I think one of the reasons that some teachers struggle with the concept of 
>> SSR is that it seems like "wasted time" or "time not well spent" or "time 
>> that is better used for something more explicit and direct" and I see that 
>> coming through in your comment that having SSR on one day a  week would add 
>> up to almost 7 weeks of silent reading in class.  But  here's a thought 
>> that's a GREAT use of seven weeks! Time for  students to learn to enjoy 
>> reading on their own... something that will  stay with them forever, 
>> something th

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-02 Thread Melissa Beaudre
Heather - I agree with you. I taught fifth graders this year and by
the end, if they didn't see SSR time on the daily schedule, they were
asking about it. One thing I did that found worked great, was one day
a week, instead of conferencing with students, was brought my own book
in to read - whatever I was reading at the time. This made such a
difference in the reading atmosphere! I found the "fakers" to even
seem to be enjoying reading on those days. They also loved to take a
few minutes at the end of SSR time to talk about what they had read
during the day and share with their classmates - they also took
reccomendations and provided feedback - as some of you had suggested.
I think that the teachers' love for reading needs to be reflected and
will rub off on your students. I had several parents thank me this
year for getting their child reading again and enjoying it. It was a
great feeling!

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Heather Green wrote:
> And I just wanted to add, maybe this is a lofty goal, especially at the
> upper grades, but if students aren't reluctant to stop reading at the end of
> ssr, or if they don't say "a man" when you say it's time to stop,
> something is not going right with ssr.  There are too many amazing books out
> there for our students not to be enthralled in.
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Heather Green  wrote:
>
>> I think it has to be more than just SSR. SSR has to be the basis of your
>> classroom.  It has to created this undercurrent of a love of books and good
>> stories.  So just as important as silent reading time, I think is sharing
>> time.  I know I have read a lot of good books because people have
>> recommended them to me. Plus, it's more fun to read a book that you know
>> someone else has read so you can talk about it . So I think as part of SSR,
>> students should be able to spotlight books, and you should as well.  There
>> are some great examples of these booktalks in the book Readicide, or is it
>> The Reading Zone, I can't remember which one.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel <
>> mrthum...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have also thoroughly enjoyed the book group that I belong to and have
>>> been thinking about it a lot as I get ready to approach my 9th grade English
>>> class of girls.  I have made great connections with women that I didn't know
>>> very well, and it's been great for me to get away from home to talk with
>>> intelligent women about all sorts of topics.  I love thinking about reading
>>> a new book each month. . . and I'd like to establish an environment where my
>>> students (girls next year) WANT to come to "book group" to share and listen.
>>>
>>> Jan--thanks for the link to Gardiner . . . I'm going to definitely look
>>> into that!  I like the analogy of reading and running--as a runner myself, I
>>> seriously suffer if I don't train on a daily level.  I can't imagine running
>>> 5 miles just once a week!  So I can see the connection of establishing good
>>> reading habits through consistent and daily reading.  I just still struggle
>>> with the concept of only having 40 minutes left to cover reading strategies,
>>> vocabulary, and all the writing elements that are in my curriculum . . . .
>>> I'm going to take the summer to think about this!  Further ideas are
>>> certainly helpful:)
>>> --
>>> From: "Renee" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
>>>
>>> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <
>>> mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
>>>
>>>  I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want
>>>> to see how this works out. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group
>>>> (which I started, and for which I was very selective on the people
>>>> involved). There are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all 
>>>> read
>>>> whatever we want and then come together to just share what we've read,
>>>> whatever it is. Name a genre and at least one of us has read and shared.
>>>> What's interesting though, is that with all the sharing of  what's in the
>>>> books and our impressions, we have also branched out into discussions of
>>>> politics, religion, local issues, specific authors,  death, Alzheim

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread Heather Green
I think it has to be more than just SSR. SSR has to be the basis of your
classroom.  It has to created this undercurrent of a love of books and good
stories.  So just as important as silent reading time, I think is sharing
time.  I know I have read a lot of good books because people have
recommended them to me. Plus, it's more fun to read a book that you know
someone else has read so you can talk about it . So I think as part of SSR,
students should be able to spotlight books, and you should as well.  There
are some great examples of these booktalks in the book Readicide, or is it
The Reading Zone, I can't remember which one.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel <
mrthum...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have also thoroughly enjoyed the book group that I belong to and have
> been thinking about it a lot as I get ready to approach my 9th grade English
> class of girls.  I have made great connections with women that I didn't know
> very well, and it's been great for me to get away from home to talk with
> intelligent women about all sorts of topics.  I love thinking about reading
> a new book each month. . . and I'd like to establish an environment where my
> students (girls next year) WANT to come to "book group" to share and listen.
>
> Jan--thanks for the link to Gardiner . . . I'm going to definitely look
> into that!  I like the analogy of reading and running--as a runner myself, I
> seriously suffer if I don't train on a daily level.  I can't imagine running
> 5 miles just once a week!  So I can see the connection of establishing good
> reading habits through consistent and daily reading.  I just still struggle
> with the concept of only having 40 minutes left to cover reading strategies,
> vocabulary, and all the writing elements that are in my curriculum . . . .
> I'm going to take the summer to think about this!  Further ideas are
> certainly helpful:)
> --
> From: "Renee" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
>
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <
> mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
>
>  I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want to
>> see how this works out. :-)
>>
>> Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group
>> (which I started, and for which I was very selective on the people
>> involved). There are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all read
>> whatever we want and then come together to just share what we've read,
>> whatever it is. Name a genre and at least one of us has read and shared.
>> What's interesting though, is that with all the sharing of  what's in the
>> books and our impressions, we have also branched out into discussions of
>> politics, religion, local issues, specific authors,  death, Alzheimer's (one
>> person in our group lost a husband to this  insidious disease and we all
>> shared the grief from its onset to his  passing a couple of years later),
>> food, art, . in other words  you name it. Boy, do we make
>> connections!
>>
>> What I'm thinking is that the book sharing part. voluntary sharing
>> is so valuable and so complex and can teach so much.
>>
>> I was just thinking a while ago that some of the best teaching I've  done
>> was when I was not "teaching" at all.
>>
>> :-)
>> Renee
>>
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:
>>
>>  Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to  change
>>> my thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as  an
>>> advantage.  I guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using  that
>>> time to "get things done"--which is not what I have chosen to do  with that
>>> time when I've given it in the past.   Also, I just see so  many of these
>>> struggling readers lacking in basic comprehension  skills, so I've decided
>>> in the past to replace that "silent reading"  time with a more structured
>>> approach. Students are certainly doing a  lot of reading in this approach,
>>> but not as much self-selected--which  is what I want them to get "hooked"
>>> on.   Many middle schools have 2  periods to teaching reading and writing .
>>> . . whereas I'm limited to  just one.  So this is an added complication to
>>> make it through my  curriculum.  I'd love to add another class . . . but it
>>> might be a  struggle.
>

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread Heather Green
And I just wanted to add, maybe this is a lofty goal, especially at the
upper grades, but if students aren't reluctant to stop reading at the end of
ssr, or if they don't say "a man" when you say it's time to stop,
something is not going right with ssr.  There are too many amazing books out
there for our students not to be enthralled in.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Heather Green  wrote:

> I think it has to be more than just SSR. SSR has to be the basis of your
> classroom.  It has to created this undercurrent of a love of books and good
> stories.  So just as important as silent reading time, I think is sharing
> time.  I know I have read a lot of good books because people have
> recommended them to me. Plus, it's more fun to read a book that you know
> someone else has read so you can talk about it . So I think as part of SSR,
> students should be able to spotlight books, and you should as well.  There
> are some great examples of these booktalks in the book Readicide, or is it
> The Reading Zone, I can't remember which one.
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel <
> mrthum...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have also thoroughly enjoyed the book group that I belong to and have
>> been thinking about it a lot as I get ready to approach my 9th grade English
>> class of girls.  I have made great connections with women that I didn't know
>> very well, and it's been great for me to get away from home to talk with
>> intelligent women about all sorts of topics.  I love thinking about reading
>> a new book each month. . . and I'd like to establish an environment where my
>> students (girls next year) WANT to come to "book group" to share and listen.
>>
>> Jan--thanks for the link to Gardiner . . . I'm going to definitely look
>> into that!  I like the analogy of reading and running--as a runner myself, I
>> seriously suffer if I don't train on a daily level.  I can't imagine running
>> 5 miles just once a week!  So I can see the connection of establishing good
>> reading habits through consistent and daily reading.  I just still struggle
>> with the concept of only having 40 minutes left to cover reading strategies,
>> vocabulary, and all the writing elements that are in my curriculum . . . .
>> I'm going to take the summer to think about this!  Further ideas are
>> certainly helpful:)
>> ----------
>> From: "Renee" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
>>
>> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <
>> mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
>>
>>  I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want
>>> to see how this works out. :-)
>>>
>>> Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group
>>> (which I started, and for which I was very selective on the people
>>> involved). There are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all read
>>> whatever we want and then come together to just share what we've read,
>>> whatever it is. Name a genre and at least one of us has read and shared.
>>> What's interesting though, is that with all the sharing of  what's in the
>>> books and our impressions, we have also branched out into discussions of
>>> politics, religion, local issues, specific authors,  death, Alzheimer's (one
>>> person in our group lost a husband to this  insidious disease and we all
>>> shared the grief from its onset to his  passing a couple of years later),
>>> food, art, . in other words  you name it. Boy, do we make
>>> connections!
>>>
>>> What I'm thinking is that the book sharing part. voluntary
>>> sharing is so valuable and so complex and can teach so much.
>>>
>>> I was just thinking a while ago that some of the best teaching I've  done
>>> was when I was not "teaching" at all.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>> Renee
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:
>>>
>>>  Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to  change
>>>> my thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as  an
>>>> advantage.  I guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using  that
>>>> time to "get things done"--which is not what I have chosen to do  with that
>>>> time when I've given it in the past.   Also, 

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread Mark & Rachele' Thummel
I have also thoroughly enjoyed the book group that I belong to and have been 
thinking about it a lot as I get ready to approach my 9th grade English 
class of girls.  I have made great connections with women that I didn't know 
very well, and it's been great for me to get away from home to talk with 
intelligent women about all sorts of topics.  I love thinking about reading 
a new book each month. . . and I'd like to establish an environment where my 
students (girls next year) WANT to come to "book group" to share and listen.


Jan--thanks for the link to Gardiner . . . I'm going to definitely look into 
that!  I like the analogy of reading and running--as a runner myself, I 
seriously suffer if I don't train on a daily level.  I can't imagine running 
5 miles just once a week!  So I can see the connection of establishing good 
reading habits through consistent and daily reading.  I just still struggle 
with the concept of only having 40 minutes left to cover reading strategies, 
vocabulary, and all the writing elements that are in my curriculum . . . . 
I'm going to take the summer to think about this!  Further ideas are 
certainly helpful:)

--
From: "Renee" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 


Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want 
to see how this works out. :-)


Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group 
(which I started, and for which I was very selective on the people 
involved). There are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all 
read whatever we want and then come together to just share what we've 
read, whatever it is. Name a genre and at least one of us has read and 
shared. What's interesting though, is that with all the sharing of  what's 
in the books and our impressions, we have also branched out into 
discussions of politics, religion, local issues, specific authors,  death, 
Alzheimer's (one person in our group lost a husband to this  insidious 
disease and we all shared the grief from its onset to his  passing a 
couple of years later), food, art, . in other words  you name it. 
Boy, do we make connections!


What I'm thinking is that the book sharing part. voluntary 
sharing is so valuable and so complex and can teach so much.


I was just thinking a while ago that some of the best teaching I've  done 
was when I was not "teaching" at all.


:-)
Renee


On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:

Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to  change 
my thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as  an 
advantage.  I guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using  that 
time to "get things done"--which is not what I have chosen to do  with 
that time when I've given it in the past.   Also, I just see so  many of 
these struggling readers lacking in basic comprehension  skills, so I've 
decided in the past to replace that "silent reading"  time with a more 
structured approach. Students are certainly doing a  lot of reading in 
this approach, but not as much self-selected--which  is what I want them 
to get "hooked" on.   Many middle schools have 2  periods to teaching 
reading and writing . . . whereas I'm limited to  just one.  So this is 
an added complication to make it through my  curriculum.  I'd love to add 
another class . . . but it might be a  struggle.


Then of course there are the students who are scrambling to find a  book 
two minutes before class and reading something different every  time.  So 
I'm thinking that if I restructure my approach to silent  reading, I 
might get better results.  I'm planning on doing a "coffee  shop" format 
with my 9th graders this year--allowing them a modified  reading time.  I 
thought that I would alternate weeks--one day a week  they would silent 
read self-selected materials and the next week they  would share in a 
group with coffee/cocoa/cider?!  We have  gender-grouped our 9th graders, 
so I will have 23 girls.  I have never  taught to just one gender, but 
since I will be doing this, I thought  I'd try to make it a bit "girlie". 
Thank you for your ideas!


----------
From: "Renee" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:54 AM
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 


Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


Hi there Mark and/or Rachele'

I think one of the reasons that some teachers struggle with the  concept 
of SSR is that it seems like "wasted time" or "time not well  spent" or 
"time that is better used f

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread Renee
I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want  
to see how this works out. :-)


Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group  
(which I started, and for which I was very selective on the people  
involved). There are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all  
read whatever we want and then come together to just share what we've  
read, whatever it is. Name a genre and at least one of us has read and  
shared. What's interesting though, is that with all the sharing of  
what's in the books and our impressions, we have also branched out into  
discussions of politics, religion, local issues, specific authors,  
death, Alzheimer's (one person in our group lost a husband to this  
insidious disease and we all shared the grief from its onset to his  
passing a couple of years later), food, art, . in other words  
you name it. Boy, do we make connections!


What I'm thinking is that the book sharing part. voluntary  
sharing is so valuable and so complex and can teach so much.


I was just thinking a while ago that some of the best teaching I've  
done was when I was not "teaching" at all.


:-)
Renee


On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:

Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to  
change my thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as  
an advantage.  I guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using  
that time to "get things done"--which is not what I have chosen to do  
with that time when I've given it in the past.   Also, I just see so  
many of these struggling readers lacking in basic comprehension  
skills, so I've decided in the past to replace that "silent reading"  
time with a more structured approach. Students are certainly doing a  
lot of reading in this approach, but not as much self-selected--which  
is what I want them to get "hooked" on.   Many middle schools have 2  
periods to teaching reading and writing . . . whereas I'm limited to  
just one.  So this is an added complication to make it through my  
curriculum.  I'd love to add another class . . . but it might be a  
struggle.


Then of course there are the students who are scrambling to find a  
book two minutes before class and reading something different every  
time.  So I'm thinking that if I restructure my approach to silent  
reading, I might get better results.  I'm planning on doing a "coffee  
shop" format with my 9th graders this year--allowing them a modified  
reading time.  I thought that I would alternate weeks--one day a week  
they would silent read self-selected materials and the next week they  
would share in a group with coffee/cocoa/cider?!  We have  
gender-grouped our 9th graders, so I will have 23 girls.  I have never  
taught to just one gender, but since I will be doing this, I thought  
I'd try to make it a bit "girlie".  Thank you for your ideas!


--
From: "Renee" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:54 AM
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"  


Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


Hi there Mark and/or Rachele'

I think one of the reasons that some teachers struggle with the  
concept of SSR is that it seems like "wasted time" or "time not well  
spent" or "time that is better used for something more explicit and  
direct" and I see that coming through in your comment that having SSR  
on one day a  week would add up to almost 7 weeks of silent reading  
in class.  But  here's a thought that's a GREAT use of seven  
weeks! Time for  students to learn to enjoy reading on their own...  
something that will  stay with them forever, something that might  
turn some non-readers into  readers (and I'm not talking about  
competency, I'm talking about  choice). But if it were me, I would  
turn it around, and have the SSR  day be on Monday instead of Friday,  
because then the reading on Monday  could serve as personal  
information from each student to add to  whatever discussions  
happened during the week.


What if, for example, Monday was also a "book sharing" kind of day,   
where students read silently and independently for 3/4 of the period,  
 something of their own choosing, and then met in small groups to  
just  share with a few other students what they are reading? What if,  
after  this got started, you started throwing out targeted questions  
for  discussion in these small groups? For example, perhaps on one  
Monday  you could suggest that students talk to each other about any  
visuals  that popped up while they were reading, and on another  
Monday you might  suggest that students tell others about any  
connections they made while  reading.


I

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread linz477
In response to the insights that everyone has given to me, I feel that most 
teachers don't monitor SSR and just leave it up their children to read during 
this block.? I was reading a book and it mentioned this problem and how a 
county actually got rid of it from their school day because it wasn't showing a 
huge difference in their test scores.? Students who don't like to read may just 
stare at the pages to let teachers think that they are reading.??IN conclusion- 
I just feel that if properly monitored, SSR can be a great tool to help reading 
scores go up.? If not,?that time could be used to teach.? 


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From: lbu...@stny.rr.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading



Lisa,

With test scores and accountability, I am sure some teachers would say yes to 
your question that we should be satisfied that kids read profiently.  I would 
not- I want profient readers, but I want  kids to want to read.  I think people 
on this list strive to help all kids get to that point that they choose to 
read.  
By the end of the year, I can say that my kids love that independent time and 
it 
was a time we all looked forward to each day.  Unfortunately, things can change 
once they move on.  I often had sixth grade teachers ask why kids don't want to 
read much anymore.  I stopped worrying about what comes after they leave my 
room, I can't change that, but I can influence other teachers. 

I have to say, after reading Ellin's books, I have initiated change in my 
building.  More and more teachers have jumped in - which means more kids are 
choosing to read.  More and more teachers have classroom libraries and more 
kids 
are involved in strategies.  With this, there is more time given for 
independent 
reading. I know at the end of the year, one fifth grade teacher said her kids 
didn't want to leave until they finished a book.




Linda
 Lisa Szyska  wrote: 
> 
> I have a question in response to this question. 
> 
> Are we satisfied to create readers that can read proficiently, but who would 
never choose to?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread Jan Sanders
This link has a interview with Steve Gardiner who wrote a book about
sustained silent reading.  Scroll way down -it is the 2nd one from the end.
http://www.ascd.org/Publications/Books/ASCD_Talks_With_an_Author.aspx
Jan

On 7/1/09 7:54 AM, "Renee"  wrote:

> Hi there Mark and/or Rachele'
> 
> I think one of the reasons that some teachers struggle with the concept
> of SSR is that it seems like "wasted time" or "time not well spent" or
> "time that is better used for something more explicit and direct" and I
> see that coming through in your comment that having SSR on one day a
> week would add up to almost 7 weeks of silent reading in class.  But
> here's a thought that's a GREAT use of seven weeks! Time for
> students to learn to enjoy reading on their own... something that will
> stay with them forever, something that might turn some non-readers into
> readers (and I'm not talking about competency, I'm talking about
> choice). But if it were me, I would turn it around, and have the SSR
> day be on Monday instead of Friday, because then the reading on Monday
> could serve as personal information from each student to add to
> whatever discussions happened during the week.
> 
> What if, for example, Monday was also a "book sharing" kind of day,
> where students read silently and independently for 3/4 of the period,
> something of their own choosing, and then met in small groups to just
> share with a few other students what they are reading? What if, after
> this got started, you started throwing out targeted questions for
> discussion in these small groups? For example, perhaps on one Monday
> you could suggest that students talk to each other about any visuals
> that popped up while they were reading, and on another Monday you might
> suggest that students tell others about any connections they made while
> reading.
> 
> I think it's hard for many of us to see this as a good use of time, but
> I'm with the person who said that SSR would be the last thing she would
> give up. I worked in a school where everyone stopped to read for 20
> minutes every day and in our case, that included teachers, the
> principal, the secretary, etc. I read all of Fountas & Pinnel's Guided
> Reading and Lucy Calkins' The Art of Teaching Writing during that time.
> I do not see it as wasted. Rather, I saw it as myself modeling reading
> for students. I did not worry whether or not they were really reading,
> unless I saw someone just turning pages, or obviously not engaged. Then
> I would quietly prompt them to please read or, if they were making
> noise, that they were interrupting my reading time. It only took a few
> weeks into this system for nearly all students to be on task most of
> the time, and I never, ever considered this to be a waste of time. But
> then, we had administrators who supported it, and that's a key thing.
> 
> Renee
> 
> 
> On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:
> 
>> I struggle with the Silent Sustained Reading as well . . .  and I was
>> wondering what you all thought about it at the upper levels.  I teach
>> a section of 7th grade and 9th grade English.  In both classes I'm
>> expected to teach reading and writing in 55 minutes--we don't get a
>> period of "reading" and a period of "writing".  I would love to have
>> my students silent read, but I always feel as though I'm "giving up"
>> valuable writing and group literature time.  I do teach with a teacher
>> who has her students read all period on Fridays . . . but when I add
>> that up, that's almost 7 weeks of silent reading in class!  The added
>> frustration is that students aren't reading outside of school, even
>> when there is a grade attached--so I feel as though for some of these
>> students, the only time they are reading is when it's "carved out" of
>> class time.  As I recall, the research says that for "struggling
>> readers," the best thing to have them do is read.  But when you only
>> have 1 period to do reading and writing, I feel as though using
>> "reading time" to do reading strategies is more valuable.  But I'm
>> interested to know what other middle/upper level teachers are doing
>> about outside reading and SSR?
>> --
>> From: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:01 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
>> 
>>> As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading
>>> improves?individual reading scores on standardi

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread lbuice
Lisa,

With test scores and accountability, I am sure some teachers would say yes to 
your question that we should be satisfied that kids read profiently.  I would 
not- I want profient readers, but I want  kids to want to read.  I think people 
on this list strive to help all kids get to that point that they choose to 
read.  By the end of the year, I can say that my kids love that independent 
time and it was a time we all looked forward to each day.  Unfortunately, 
things can change once they move on.  I often had sixth grade teachers ask why 
kids don't want to read much anymore.  I stopped worrying about what comes 
after they leave my room, I can't change that, but I can influence other 
teachers. 

I have to say, after reading Ellin's books, I have initiated change in my 
building.  More and more teachers have jumped in - which means more kids are 
choosing to read.  More and more teachers have classroom libraries and more 
kids are involved in strategies.  With this, there is more time given for 
independent reading. I know at the end of the year, one fifth grade teacher 
said her kids didn't want to leave until they finished a book.




Linda
 Lisa Szyska  wrote: 
> 
> I have a question in response to this question. 
> 
> Are we satisfied to create readers that can read proficiently, but who would 
> never choose to?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread Mark & Rachele' Thummel
Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to change my 
thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as an advantage.  I 
guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using that time to "get 
things done"--which is not what I have chosen to do with that time when I've 
given it in the past.   Also, I just see so many of these struggling readers 
lacking in basic comprehension skills, so I've decided in the past to 
replace that "silent reading" time with a more structured approach. 
Students are certainly doing a lot of reading in this approach, but not as 
much self-selected--which is what I want them to get "hooked" on.   Many 
middle schools have 2 periods to teaching reading and writing . . . whereas 
I'm limited to just one.  So this is an added complication to make it 
through my curriculum.  I'd love to add another class . . . but it might be 
a struggle.


Then of course there are the students who are scrambling to find a book two 
minutes before class and reading something different every time.  So I'm 
thinking that if I restructure my approach to silent reading, I might get 
better results.  I'm planning on doing a "coffee shop" format with my 9th 
graders this year--allowing them a modified reading time.  I thought that I 
would alternate weeks--one day a week they would silent read self-selected 
materials and the next week they would share in a group with 
coffee/cocoa/cider?!  We have gender-grouped our 9th graders, so I will have 
23 girls.  I have never taught to just one gender, but since I will be doing 
this, I thought I'd try to make it a bit "girlie".  Thank you for your 
ideas!


--
From: "Renee" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:54 AM
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 


Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


Hi there Mark and/or Rachele'

I think one of the reasons that some teachers struggle with the concept 
of SSR is that it seems like "wasted time" or "time not well spent" or 
"time that is better used for something more explicit and direct" and I 
see that coming through in your comment that having SSR on one day a  week 
would add up to almost 7 weeks of silent reading in class.  But  here's a 
thought that's a GREAT use of seven weeks! Time for  students to learn 
to enjoy reading on their own... something that will  stay with them 
forever, something that might turn some non-readers into  readers (and I'm 
not talking about competency, I'm talking about  choice). But if it were 
me, I would turn it around, and have the SSR  day be on Monday instead of 
Friday, because then the reading on Monday  could serve as personal 
information from each student to add to  whatever discussions happened 
during the week.


What if, for example, Monday was also a "book sharing" kind of day,  where 
students read silently and independently for 3/4 of the period,  something 
of their own choosing, and then met in small groups to just  share with a 
few other students what they are reading? What if, after  this got 
started, you started throwing out targeted questions for  discussion in 
these small groups? For example, perhaps on one Monday  you could suggest 
that students talk to each other about any visuals  that popped up while 
they were reading, and on another Monday you might  suggest that students 
tell others about any connections they made while  reading.


I think it's hard for many of us to see this as a good use of time, but 
I'm with the person who said that SSR would be the last thing she would 
give up. I worked in a school where everyone stopped to read for 20 
minutes every day and in our case, that included teachers, the 
principal, the secretary, etc. I read all of Fountas & Pinnel's Guided 
Reading and Lucy Calkins' The Art of Teaching Writing during that time.  I 
do not see it as wasted. Rather, I saw it as myself modeling reading  for 
students. I did not worry whether or not they were really reading,  unless 
I saw someone just turning pages, or obviously not engaged. Then  I would 
quietly prompt them to please read or, if they were making  noise, that 
they were interrupting my reading time. It only took a few  weeks into 
this system for nearly all students to be on task most of  the time, and I 
never, ever considered this to be a waste of time. But  then, we had 
administrators who supported it, and that's a key thing.


Renee


On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:

I struggle with the Silent Sustained Reading as well . . .  and I was 
wondering what you all thought about it at the upper levels.  I teach  a 
section of 7th grade and 9th grade English.  In both classes I'm 
expected to teach readi

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-01 Thread Renee

Hi there Mark and/or Rachele'

I think one of the reasons that some teachers struggle with the concept  
of SSR is that it seems like "wasted time" or "time not well spent" or  
"time that is better used for something more explicit and direct" and I  
see that coming through in your comment that having SSR on one day a  
week would add up to almost 7 weeks of silent reading in class.  But  
here's a thought that's a GREAT use of seven weeks! Time for  
students to learn to enjoy reading on their own... something that will  
stay with them forever, something that might turn some non-readers into  
readers (and I'm not talking about competency, I'm talking about  
choice). But if it were me, I would turn it around, and have the SSR  
day be on Monday instead of Friday, because then the reading on Monday  
could serve as personal information from each student to add to  
whatever discussions happened during the week.


What if, for example, Monday was also a "book sharing" kind of day,  
where students read silently and independently for 3/4 of the period,  
something of their own choosing, and then met in small groups to just  
share with a few other students what they are reading? What if, after  
this got started, you started throwing out targeted questions for  
discussion in these small groups? For example, perhaps on one Monday  
you could suggest that students talk to each other about any visuals  
that popped up while they were reading, and on another Monday you might  
suggest that students tell others about any connections they made while  
reading.


I think it's hard for many of us to see this as a good use of time, but  
I'm with the person who said that SSR would be the last thing she would  
give up. I worked in a school where everyone stopped to read for 20  
minutes every day and in our case, that included teachers, the  
principal, the secretary, etc. I read all of Fountas & Pinnel's Guided  
Reading and Lucy Calkins' The Art of Teaching Writing during that time.  
I do not see it as wasted. Rather, I saw it as myself modeling reading  
for students. I did not worry whether or not they were really reading,  
unless I saw someone just turning pages, or obviously not engaged. Then  
I would quietly prompt them to please read or, if they were making  
noise, that they were interrupting my reading time. It only took a few  
weeks into this system for nearly all students to be on task most of  
the time, and I never, ever considered this to be a waste of time. But  
then, we had administrators who supported it, and that's a key thing.


Renee


On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Mark & Rachele' Thummel wrote:

I struggle with the Silent Sustained Reading as well . . .  and I was  
wondering what you all thought about it at the upper levels.  I teach  
a section of 7th grade and 9th grade English.  In both classes I'm  
expected to teach reading and writing in 55 minutes--we don't get a  
period of "reading" and a period of "writing".  I would love to have  
my students silent read, but I always feel as though I'm "giving up"  
valuable writing and group literature time.  I do teach with a teacher  
who has her students read all period on Fridays . . . but when I add  
that up, that's almost 7 weeks of silent reading in class!  The added  
frustration is that students aren't reading outside of school, even  
when there is a grade attached--so I feel as though for some of these  
students, the only time they are reading is when it's "carved out" of  
class time.  As I recall, the research says that for "struggling  
readers," the best thing to have them do is read.  But when you only  
have 1 period to do reading and writing, I feel as though using  
"reading time" to do reading strategies is more valuable.  But I'm  
interested to know what other middle/upper level teachers are doing  
about outside reading and SSR?

--
From: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:01 PM
To: 
Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading  
improves?individual reading scores on standardized tests??

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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread suzie herb
Our middle school did an amazing thing.  After lunch each day 15 minutes was 
and is scheduled and the whole middle school grade 6, 7 and 8 and the teachers 
read at this time.  It has made a hugh difference to the borrowing from the 
library and I know that parents who were concerned about their children not 
reading once they hit middle school.  It has made such a difference to not only 
the kids but the whole school.  INaturally,  there were a few hiccups at the 
begining with kids not having books, not being focussed to begin with, but now 
three years into the program, the kids are moritfied if they don't get this 
time and it's just a part of the program..  I don't know what the issue is in 
the US (as I am not from your country) apart for time periods for Silent 
reading but ;unless kids are supported in providing books, time, place, peace, 
how can they ever realize the value and enjoyment of the time as well as the 
progression of skills that takes
 place.  Isn't it a time too for students to independently apply the 
'comprehension' and mini lesson skills on their own.  I personally would give 
up everything BUT silent reading if I was told there was a choice.  We talk 
about 'teaching writing' but how can we ask children to write without the 
experience with reading, and reading about things which most interest them?   
Always before silent reading I give the kids just a task to think about and we 
do a couple of minutes after the session and usually the focus is on the 
author's craft.  For example, think about the the words that the author uses to 
create mood or look at how dialogue conveys information anything that I am 
working on in writing, I use as just a snippet of the silent reading time.  Of 
course not all students are going to every day have the sorts of books that 
enable them to participate and that's fine too but the thing is that we get to 
hear and listen to what others have
 read.  What makes you smile or frown as your read?  Or laugh?  Simple, simple 
things.  I am lucky in that my students had a regular rotating classroom 
library of over two hundred books at various levels, on various subjects.  
There was never a reason for a child to not become engaged in a book even if at 
the beginning of the year it was and I spy book that an EAL student chose.  It 
included cartoons, comic books, magazinespoetry books, everything that I 
could get my hands on.  And when kids didn't have a book they actually chose a 
new or different genre for browsing.  S.  

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, beverleep...@gmail.com  wrote:


From: beverleep...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Received: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009, 12:51 PM


We all would like it if we could do our jobs with our doors shut in our own 
little community.  But sometimes the decisions made at another level impact us 
so severely that we're stuck.  I wonder if this isn't a time your language arts 
(and content teachers as well, really) need to make a case for a regular 
language arts class (which would logically be heavy on writing) and a separate 
class for reading instruction. 
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

-Original Message-
From: "Mark & Rachele' Thummel" 

Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:11:26 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


I struggle with the Silent Sustained Reading as well . . .  and I was 
wondering what you all thought about it at the upper levels.  I teach a 
section of 7th grade and 9th grade English.  In both classes I'm expected to 
teach reading and writing in 55 minutes--we don't get a period of "reading" 
and a period of "writing".  I would love to have my students silent read, 
but I always feel as though I'm "giving up" valuable writing and group 
literature time.  I do teach with a teacher who has her students read all 
period on Fridays . . . but when I add that up, that's almost 7 weeks of 
silent reading in class!  The added frustration is that students aren't 
reading outside of school, even when there is a grade attached--so I feel as 
though for some of these students, the only time they are reading is when 
it's "carved out" of class time.  As I recall, the research says that for 
"struggling readers," the best thing to have them do is read.  But when you 
only have 1 period to do reading and writing, I feel as though using 
"reading time" to do reading strategies is more valuable.  But I'm 
interested to know what other middle/upper level teachers are doing about 
outside reading and SSR?
--
From: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:01 PM
To: 
Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Readin

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Darlene Cook
Definitely!

Darlene S. Cook  KindergartenLone Oak ElementaryPaducah, Kentucky  
42001http://www.mccracken.k12.ky.us/loneoak/les/Teachers/dcook/home.htm 

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From: cnjpal...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:31 PM

 
YES! But you have to teach children what real reading is...and make sure  
they are really reading. 
Jennifer
In a message dated 6/30/2009 4:38:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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As  teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading 
improves?individual  reading scores on standardized tests??


 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Lisa Szyska

I have a question in response to this question. 

Are we satisfied to create readers that can read proficiently, but who would 
never choose to?





  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Mark & Rachele' Thummel
I completely agree!  There are many great things about teaching in a small 
district . . . but one of the drawbacks affecting the decision to add 
another class like "reading" is that we are limited to major schedule 
changes-- our middle school has to run a 6-period day to match the high 
school due to teachers crossing over between the two.  If we add a "reading" 
class, then we would have to cut a middle school elective--something that 
many teachers are opposed to.  So for now, I'm just attempting to make the 
best of the situation--and just thankful I have a job at this time:)  I'm 
hoping to get the SSR conflict resolved before starting back up again in 
August.


--
From: 
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To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 


Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

We all would like it if we could do our jobs with our doors shut in our 
own little community.  But sometimes the decisions made at another level 
impact us so severely that we're stuck.  I wonder if this isn't a time 
your language arts (and content teachers as well, really) need to make a 
case for a regular language arts class (which would logically be heavy on 
writing) and a separate class for reading instruction.

Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

-Original Message-
From: "Mark & Rachele' Thummel" 

Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:11:26
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Group

Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


I struggle with the Silent Sustained Reading as well . . .  and I was
wondering what you all thought about it at the upper levels.  I teach a
section of 7th grade and 9th grade English.  In both classes I'm expected 
to
teach reading and writing in 55 minutes--we don't get a period of 
"reading"

and a period of "writing".  I would love to have my students silent read,
but I always feel as though I'm "giving up" valuable writing and group
literature time.  I do teach with a teacher who has her students read all
period on Fridays . . . but when I add that up, that's almost 7 weeks of
silent reading in class!  The added frustration is that students aren't
reading outside of school, even when there is a grade attached--so I feel 
as

though for some of these students, the only time they are reading is when
it's "carved out" of class time.  As I recall, the research says that for
"struggling readers," the best thing to have them do is read.  But when 
you

only have 1 period to do reading and writing, I feel as though using
"reading time" to do reading strategies is more valuable.  But I'm
interested to know what other middle/upper level teachers are doing about
outside reading and SSR?
--
From: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:01 PM
To: 
Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading
improves?individual reading scores on standardized tests??
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread beverleepaul
We all would like it if we could do our jobs with our doors shut in our own 
little community.  But sometimes the decisions made at another level impact us 
so severely that we're stuck.  I wonder if this isn't a time your language arts 
(and content teachers as well, really) need to make a case for a regular 
language arts class (which would logically be heavy on writing) and a separate 
class for reading instruction. 
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

-Original Message-
From: "Mark & Rachele' Thummel" 

Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:11:26 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading


I struggle with the Silent Sustained Reading as well . . .  and I was 
wondering what you all thought about it at the upper levels.  I teach a 
section of 7th grade and 9th grade English.  In both classes I'm expected to 
teach reading and writing in 55 minutes--we don't get a period of "reading" 
and a period of "writing".  I would love to have my students silent read, 
but I always feel as though I'm "giving up" valuable writing and group 
literature time.  I do teach with a teacher who has her students read all 
period on Fridays . . . but when I add that up, that's almost 7 weeks of 
silent reading in class!  The added frustration is that students aren't 
reading outside of school, even when there is a grade attached--so I feel as 
though for some of these students, the only time they are reading is when 
it's "carved out" of class time.  As I recall, the research says that for 
"struggling readers," the best thing to have them do is read.  But when you 
only have 1 period to do reading and writing, I feel as though using 
"reading time" to do reading strategies is more valuable.  But I'm 
interested to know what other middle/upper level teachers are doing about 
outside reading and SSR?
----------
From: 
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Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

> As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Mark & Rachele' Thummel
I struggle with the Silent Sustained Reading as well . . .  and I was 
wondering what you all thought about it at the upper levels.  I teach a 
section of 7th grade and 9th grade English.  In both classes I'm expected to 
teach reading and writing in 55 minutes--we don't get a period of "reading" 
and a period of "writing".  I would love to have my students silent read, 
but I always feel as though I'm "giving up" valuable writing and group 
literature time.  I do teach with a teacher who has her students read all 
period on Fridays . . . but when I add that up, that's almost 7 weeks of 
silent reading in class!  The added frustration is that students aren't 
reading outside of school, even when there is a grade attached--so I feel as 
though for some of these students, the only time they are reading is when 
it's "carved out" of class time.  As I recall, the research says that for 
"struggling readers," the best thing to have them do is read.  But when you 
only have 1 period to do reading and writing, I feel as though using 
"reading time" to do reading strategies is more valuable.  But I'm 
interested to know what other middle/upper level teachers are doing about 
outside reading and SSR?

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As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Joy
I think SSR is one of the most powerful tools I have as a teacher. While the 
children are reading, I'm conferencing with them one on one, and since I go to 
them, the other students near them get to eavesdrop on our discussion. This 
helps me build a relationship with the student as well as giving me a peek at 
his or her abilities and progress.

As far as student's who are not reading, they get a daily conference because 
that points to me that there is a problem of some kind that needs my attention. 
 Sometimes it's not a reading problem, but a cry for attention. I give it to 
them because I figure if they need the additional instructional time, great. If 
they need behavioral guidance, great. At any rate, they get the attention they 
need and soon I have a quiet class.

 
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From: Ginger Anderson 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:35:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

Yes! If kids are actually reading - and I have to say all but two of my fourth 
graders truly would get lost in their books daily. It gives them a chance to 
use the skills that they are taught. They get to read favorite books and they 
love to talk about and recommend books to friends. It points me toward new 
mini-lessons.





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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread CNJPALMER
 
YES! But you have to teach children what real reading is...and make sure  
they are really reading. 
Jennifer
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Lisa Szyska

Actually Stephen Krashen found that it does by looking at wide number of 
studies.  The NRP did not use all these studies in their recommendations. 
http://www.sdkrashen.com/articles/in-school%20FVR/index.html 

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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread beverleepaul
Absolutely - OVER TIME
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Ginger Anderson
Yes! If kids are actually reading - and I have to say all but two of my fourth 
graders truly would get lost in their books daily. It gives them a chance to 
use the skills that they are taught. They get to read favorite books and they 
love to talk about and recommend books to friends. It points me toward new 
mini-lessons.





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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:01:00 PM
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As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading improves?individual 
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[MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread linz477
As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading improves?individual 
reading scores on standardized tests??
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