Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop test taking

2012-02-25 Thread Linda DeGreen
I second Pauline's thoughts. I would also add that I teach the QAR  
strategy at the beginning of the year and then we use this and other  
test taking strategies to answer questions in a test format throughout  
the year.
We teach test taking as a separate genre. Kids need to know how the  
elements or characteristics of tests work , the same way they  
understand the elements of reading a mystery or any other genre .

Linda

On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Pauline K Nagle wrote:

I would suggest teaching test taking as a genre, a type of reading  
that has
a specific structure and way to comprehend it.  Lucy Calkins has a  
good
book about this, but I can't recall the name.  I will find the title  
and
send it to you.  I think students need to learn how to tackle the  
text and
how to handle the type of questions, and this must be taught as a  
skill set
and practiced.  But it does not need to take over your reader's  
workshop or
reading instruction.  You just need to teach how the comprehension  
skills
they use in their independent reading texts can be applied on an  
excerpt

and how the questions are asked.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, evelia cadet  
cadeteve...@hotmail.comwrote:







As I have said before, this is the first year I am following the  
Reader's
Workshop model.  My district does not follow/support reader's  
workshop.  I
am lucky to have the freedom in my school to use any teaching  
structure I
want.  Out of almost 70 teachers, only 2 teachers in my school are  
doing
reader's workshop.  We are trying to convert the other teachers in  
our
campus.  They are noticing how our students are engaged in reading  
and are

forming a reading community that is extending outside the classroom.
However, people in my school are data driven (specifically  
standardized
testing data), and they will not consider any instructional method,  
unless
there is tangible evidence they drive results (standardized state  
testing).

Ok, this was just the introduction, here is my concern.  My students
seemed to be enjoying reading and they are showing evidence of
understanding/applying the comprehension strategies/skills we are  
working
on in class.  Nevertheless, when they take one of those practice  
test we
are required to give, everything seems to go downhills.  It is like  
they
are unable to transfer what we are learning with authentic  
literature to
the context of the test.  I honestly don't know what to do.  I know  
there
are people in my school, including some in the administration,  
waiting to

see what impact reader's workshop has on test results.  Any ideas or
advices.  HELP!!  Thank you.

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Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop test taking

2012-02-25 Thread Mena
For a great article readNCTE 2002 article by Donna SantmanTeaching to the 
Test?: Test Preparation in the Reading Workshop. From, Philomena
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio-Eckel, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

-Original Message-
From: Linda DeGreen ldegr...@fairpoint.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 6:52 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop  test taking


I second Pauline's thoughts. I would also add that I teach the QAR  
strategy at the beginning of the year and then we use this and other  
test taking strategies to answer questions in a test format throughout  
the year.
We teach test taking as a separate genre. Kids need to know how the  
elements or characteristics of tests work , the same way they  
understand the elements of reading a mystery or any other genre .
Linda

On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Pauline K Nagle wrote:

 I would suggest teaching test taking as a genre, a type of reading  
 that has
 a specific structure and way to comprehend it.  Lucy Calkins has a  
 good
 book about this, but I can't recall the name.  I will find the title  
 and
 send it to you.  I think students need to learn how to tackle the  
 text and
 how to handle the type of questions, and this must be taught as a  
 skill set
 and practiced.  But it does not need to take over your reader's  
 workshop or
 reading instruction.  You just need to teach how the comprehension  
 skills
 they use in their independent reading texts can be applied on an  
 excerpt
 and how the questions are asked.

 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, evelia cadet  
 cadeteve...@hotmail.comwrote:





 As I have said before, this is the first year I am following the  
 Reader's
 Workshop model.  My district does not follow/support reader's  
 workshop.  I
 am lucky to have the freedom in my school to use any teaching  
 structure I
 want.  Out of almost 70 teachers, only 2 teachers in my school are  
 doing
 reader's workshop.  We are trying to convert the other teachers in  
 our
 campus.  They are noticing how our students are engaged in reading  
 and are
 forming a reading community that is extending outside the classroom.
 However, people in my school are data driven (specifically  
 standardized
 testing data), and they will not consider any instructional method,  
 unless
 there is tangible evidence they drive results (standardized state  
 testing).
 Ok, this was just the introduction, here is my concern.  My students
 seemed to be enjoying reading and they are showing evidence of
 understanding/applying the comprehension strategies/skills we are  
 working
 on in class.  Nevertheless, when they take one of those practice  
 test we
 are required to give, everything seems to go downhills.  It is like  
 they
 are unable to transfer what we are learning with authentic  
 literature to
 the context of the test.  I honestly don't know what to do.  I know  
 there
 are people in my school, including some in the administration,  
 waiting to
 see what impact reader's workshop has on test results.  Any ideas or
 advices.  HELP!!  Thank you.

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Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop test taking

2012-02-25 Thread Terry
Linda,
What is the QAR strategy?

Terry

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Linda DeGreen ldegr...@fairpoint.netwrote:

 I second Pauline's thoughts. I would also add that I teach the QAR
 strategy at the beginning of the year and then we use this and other test
 taking strategies to answer questions in a test format throughout the year.
 We teach test taking as a separate genre. Kids need to know how the
 elements or characteristics of tests work , the same way they understand
 the elements of reading a mystery or any other genre .
 Linda

 On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Pauline K Nagle wrote:

  I would suggest teaching test taking as a genre, a type of reading that
 has
 a specific structure and way to comprehend it.  Lucy Calkins has a good
 book about this, but I can't recall the name.  I will find the title and
 send it to you.  I think students need to learn how to tackle the text and
 how to handle the type of questions, and this must be taught as a skill
 set
 and practiced.  But it does not need to take over your reader's workshop
 or
 reading instruction.  You just need to teach how the comprehension skills
 they use in their independent reading texts can be applied on an excerpt
 and how the questions are asked.

 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, evelia cadet cadeteve...@hotmail.com**
 wrote:





 As I have said before, this is the first year I am following the Reader's
 Workshop model.  My district does not follow/support reader's workshop.
  I
 am lucky to have the freedom in my school to use any teaching structure I
 want.  Out of almost 70 teachers, only 2 teachers in my school are doing
 reader's workshop.  We are trying to convert the other teachers in our
 campus.  They are noticing how our students are engaged in reading and
 are
 forming a reading community that is extending outside the classroom.
 However, people in my school are data driven (specifically standardized
 testing data), and they will not consider any instructional method,
 unless
 there is tangible evidence they drive results (standardized state
 testing).
 Ok, this was just the introduction, here is my concern.  My students
 seemed to be enjoying reading and they are showing evidence of
 understanding/applying the comprehension strategies/skills we are working
 on in class.  Nevertheless, when they take one of those practice test we
 are required to give, everything seems to go downhills.  It is like they
 are unable to transfer what we are learning with authentic literature to
 the context of the test.  I honestly don't know what to do.  I know there
 are people in my school, including some in the administration, waiting to
 see what impact reader's workshop has on test results.  Any ideas or
 advices.  HELP!!  Thank you.

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Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop test taking

2012-02-25 Thread donnfox
I wanted to 2nd Paulines thought too, but someone beat me to it! QAR is 
question answer relationship. You teach your students to evaluate the type of 
question it is before you answer it. For example is it a Right There question 
(literal) Author and me question (inference), etc 

I first read about QAR off the tools and resources link from readinglady.com. 
However, there is alot of  research on it in many test strategy books. I have 
found it very effective and make games out of it for my students. Eventually 
they catch on and learn to identify what the question is asking before they 
even read the answer choices.

Donna NJ
Intervention 3/4

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From: Terry trwr...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: [MOSAIC] readers workshop  test taking
Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 9:10 am


Linda,
What is the QAR strategy?

Terry

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Linda DeGreen ldegr...@fairpoint.netwrote:

 I second Pauline's thoughts. I would also add that I teach the QAR
 strategy at the beginning of the year and then we use this and other test
 taking strategies to answer questions in a test format throughout the year.
 We teach test taking as a separate genre. Kids need to know how the
 elements or characteristics of tests work , the same way they understand
 the elements of reading a mystery or any other genre .
 Linda

 On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Pauline K Nagle wrote:

  I would suggest teaching test taking as a genre, a type of reading that
 has
 a specific structure and way to comprehend it.  Lucy Calkins has a good
 book about this, but I can't recall the name.  I will find the title and
 send it to you.  I think students need to learn how to tackle the text and
 how to handle the type of questions, and this must be taught as a skill
 set
 and practiced.  But it does not need to take over your reader's workshop
 or
 reading instruction.  You just need to teach how the comprehension skills
 they use in their independent reading texts can be applied on an excerpt
 and how the questions are asked.

 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, evelia cadet cadeteve...@hotmail.com**
 wrote:





 As I have said before, this is the first year I am following the Reader's
 Workshop model.  My district does not follow/support reader's workshop.
  I
 am lucky to have the freedom in my school to use any teaching structure I
 want.  Out of almost 70 teachers, only 2 teachers in my school are doing
 reader's workshop.  We are trying to convert the other teachers in our
 campus.  They are noticing how our students are engaged in reading and
 are
 forming a reading community that is extending outside the classroom.
 However, people in my school are data driven (specifically standardized
 testing data), and they will not consider any instructional method,
 unless
 there is tangible evidence they drive results (standardized state
 testing).
 Ok, this was just the introduction, here is my concern.  My students
 seemed to be enjoying reading and they are showing evidence of
 understanding/applying the comprehension strategies/skills we are working
 on in class.  Nevertheless, when they take one of those practice test we
 are required to give, everything seems to go downhills.  It is like they
 are unable to transfer what we are learning with authentic literature to
 the context of the test.  I honestly don't know what to do.  I know there
 are people in my school, including some in the administration, waiting to
 see what impact reader's workshop has on test results.  Any ideas or
 advices.  HELP!!  Thank you.

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