Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[write]

Hi Barbara,
Thank you for your ideas.  I do talk to my students about daydreaming when 
reading.  I can catch myself pretty quickly when it happens to me, but I'm not 
sure if 8th graders have the same level of motivation.

We've been practicing with Socratic circles, and I have been disappointed.  
Students will say they don't understand something, and no one in the group will 
try to uncover meaning.

I have students assigned to a "share partner" to talk to one-on-one to avoid 
the threat of talking in front of the entire class, and I have noticed that 
many students are pretending to talk with their partner, but they don't really.

I'm reading Do I Really Have to Teach Reading? by Cris Tovani in which she says 
that teens would rather be lazy than stupid.  I asked my students (in one 
class) if they think that's true.  They did.  More disappointment.
Jan



-- Original message --
From: "Barbara Punchak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Jan,
> *duhhh*  I was so busy explaining what I did with my groups that I neglected
> to respond to your question.  When students are responsible to "talk about
> the book" with their peers, they're more apt to read carefully---or use
> necessary "fix-up strategies" {fingers crossed} if and when it does occur.
> I address "wandering minds" early on each year.  "It happens to all of us at
> one time or another," I say.  "Suddenly another character enters the book
> and you have no idea who it is or when they arrived.  You begin to
> wonder...'Hmm...was I thinking of what errands I have to do after school, or
> what I'm going to do this weekend?  So what could I do...what should you do
> if this happens?"  This is usually a mini-lesson just prior to setting them
> loose to read---and hoping they're aware of when they lose the story.  Allow
> time at the end of class for students to share.  Did their minds wander?
> How did they know they missed part of the chapter?  What did they do?
> 
> I also address how we read slower at the beginning of a book...until we meet
> the characters, learn about the setting, and get the gist of the story.
> Once we're into the book, our reading pace does pick up.  It's like meeting
> a new friend...we take time getting to know one another.  As time goes by,
> we become familiar with this person  You get the idea.
> I hope this helped some.
> Barbara/6th/FL
> 
> -Original Message-
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I still have a month of school -- our last day is June 25!  I need some
> ideas about how students can know when their minds are wondering and they
> are no longer paying attention to what they are reading.  From what my
> students say, they have this problem a lot.  I teach middle school, so I'd
> love hearing ideas that work with middle schoolers.
> Thanks!
> Jan
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[Bill Roberts]

>
> I'm reading Do I Really Have to Teach Reading? by Cris Tovani in which she 
> says that teens would rather be lazy than stupid.  I asked my students (in 
> one class) if they think that's true.  They did.  More disappointment.
> Jan

Here's an idea which won't make them sound stupid:

Have them bring in lyrics to their favorite songs.  Have them read them 
aloud to practice fluency and prosody (of course, you have to make sure 
lyrics are okay for school).  Then have them explain the song.  See if 
students will agree on the interpretations.  Since you probably won't be as 
familiar with the songs, they will get to be the teachers.  For example, I 
use "So Happy Together" by the Turtles to explain it's about a stalker 
("IMAGINE me and you, I do...").  That gets their attention.  I also play 
"Mac the Knife" and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" by the Beatles which are about 
serial killers.  It's reading, interpreting, schema, and more!

Bill



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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[Tim Rasinski]

Bill:  your comment below reminded me about some research that has been 
done on the use of songs lyrics for reading, especially reading 
fluency.  Susan Homan, Marie Biggs and myself have done some interesting 
work in Hillsborough County in Florida where kids were taught lyrics to 
songs (actually singing the songs), 30 minutes, 3 times a week.  In about 
three months times the students make over a year's gain in fluency and 
comprehension.  Gwynned Ash at Texas State reported similar gains with her 
Karaoke Club-- children learning to read by singing songs (repeated 
readings/singings)  of songs on a Karaoke machine.


I remember singing in school all the time; but less evidence of it every 
year nowadays.  That's too bad.  In our reading clinic we sing every 
day.  This summer we will doing a lot of patriotic songs - Grand Old Flag, 
This Land Is Your Land,  God Bless America,   On the day before the 4th 
of July we will gather all our students in our reading clinic outside the 
building around the flagpole and have a patriotic sing-a-long for the last 
30 minutes class.  Great way to end the day and a lot of good reading 
takes place too.


I am attaching a list of websites I have found that are great repositories 
for song lyrics for kids.(Remember "Polly Wolly Doodle All day!"  :)


Happy Memorial Day,
tim



At 05:04 PM 5/26/2007 -0400, you wrote:

>
> I'm reading Do I Really Have to Teach Reading? by Cris Tovani in which she
> says that teens would rather be lazy than stupid.  I asked my students (in
> one class) if they think that's true.  They did.  More disappointment.
> Jan

Here's an idea which won't make them sound stupid:

Have them bring in lyrics to their favorite songs.  Have them read them
aloud to practice fluency and prosody (of course, you have to make sure
lyrics are okay for school).  Then have them explain the song.  See if
students will agree on the interpretations.  Since you probably won't be as
familiar with the songs, they will get to be the teachers.  For example, I
use "So Happy Together" by the Turtles to explain it's about a stalker
("IMAGINE me and you, I do...").  That gets their attention.  I also play
"Mac the Knife" and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" by the Beatles which are about
serial killers.  It's reading, interpreting, schema, and more!

Bill



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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[Berzajs1]

Is it possible to give the lyrics website without attaching it?  I cannot
get the attachment to open.  Thanks so much for your input.
Deb


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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[Tim Rasinski]

Deb:  Sure thing.  Here it is below:

Websites for Finding Songs and Music


Songs for Children


http://judyanddavid.com/cma.html

  http://www.bussongs.com/

  
http://www.theteachersguide.com/ChildrensSongs.htm

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/music.htm

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/music.htm#index

  http://www.head-start.lane.or.us/education/activities/music/index.html



Folk Songs and Songs of America

  http://www.contemplator.com/america/

  http://folklyrics.classic-sf.co.uk/

  http://www.ftmeade.army.mil/songs.html

http://www.scoutsongs.com/categories/patriotic.html



At 09:10 AM 5/27/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>Is it possible to give the lyrics website without attaching it?  I cannot
>get the attachment to open.  Thanks so much for your input.
>Deb
>
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Kent State University
Kent, OH  44242

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Phone:  330-672-0649
Cell:  330-962-6251
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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[ljackson]

Try this one as well:

http://www.kididdles.com/


On 5/27/07 7:40 AM, "Tim Rasinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Deb:  Sure thing.  Here it is below:
> 
> Websites for Finding Songs and Music
> 
> 
> Songs for Children
> 
> 
> http://judyanddavid.com/cma.html
> 
>   http://www.bussongs.com/
> 
>   
> http://www.theteachersguid
> e.com/ChildrensSongs.htm
> 
> http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/music.htm
> 
> http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/m
> usic.htm#index
> 
>   http://www.head-start.lane.or.us/education/activities/music/index.html
> 
> 
> 
> Folk Songs and Songs of America
> 
>   http://www.contemplator.com/america/
> 
>   http://folklyrics.classic-sf.co.uk/
> 
>   
> http://www.ftmeade.army.mil/songs.html
> 
> http://www.scoutsongs.com/categories/patriotic.html
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:10 AM 5/27/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>> Is it possible to give the lyrics website without attaching it?  I cannot
>> get the attachment to open.  Thanks so much for your input.
>> Deb
>> 
>> 
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> Kent State University
> Kent, OH  44242
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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[read3]

 Hi, Tim.
Did the attachment 'unattach'?? Thanks.


 


 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Rasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Sun, 27 May 2007 9:02 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)









Bill:  your comment below reminded me about some research that has been 
done on the use of songs lyrics for reading, especially reading 
fluency.  Susan Homan, Marie Biggs and myself have done some interesting 
work in Hillsborough County in Florida where kids were taught lyrics to 
songs (actually singing the songs), 30 minutes, 3 times a week.  In about 
three months times the students make over a year's gain in fluency and 
comprehension.  Gwynned Ash at Texas State reported similar gains with her 
Karaoke Club-- children learning to read by singing songs (repeated 
readings/singings)  of songs on a Karaoke machine.?
?

I remember singing in school all the time; but less evidence of it every 
year nowadays.  That's too bad.  In our reading clinic we sing every 
day.  This summer we will doing a lot of patriotic songs - Grand Old Flag, 
This Land Is Your Land,  God Bless America,   On the day before the 4th 
of July we will gather all our students in our reading clinic outside the 
building around the flagpole and have a patriotic sing-a-long for the last 
30 minutes class.  Great way to end the day and a lot of good reading 
takes place too.?
?

I am attaching a list of websites I have found that are great repositories 
for song lyrics for kids.(Remember "Polly Wolly Doodle All day!"  :)?
?

Happy Memorial Day,?

tim?
?

?

At 05:04 PM 5/26/2007 -0400, you wrote:?

> >?

> > I'm reading Do I Really Have to Teach Reading? by Cris Tovani in which she?

> > says that teens would rather be lazy than stupid.  I asked my students (in?

> > one class) if they think that's true.  They did.  More disappointment.?

> > Jan?

>?

>Here's an idea which won't make them sound stupid:?

>?

>Have them bring in lyrics to their favorite songs.  Have them read them?

>aloud to practice fluency and prosody (of course, you have to make sure?

>lyrics are okay for school).  Then have them explain the song.  See if?

>students will agree on the interpretations.  Since you probably won't be as?

>familiar with the songs, they will get to be the teachers.  For example, I?

>use "So Happy Together" by the Turtles to explain it's about a stalker?

>("IMAGINE me and you, I do...").  That gets their attention.  I also play?

>"Mac the Knife" and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" by the Beatles which are about?

>serial killers.  It's reading, interpreting, schema, and more!?

>?

>Bill?

>?

>?

>?

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Timothy Rasinski, Ph.D.?

Reading and Writing Center?

404 White Hall?

Kent State University?

Kent, OH  44242?
?

email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Phone:  330-672-0649?

Cell:  330-962-6251?

Fax:  330-672-2025?

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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[milesandtannymcgregor]

Don't forget to visit this wonderful site, created by Ruth Harris:

www.songsforteaching.com


Tanny McGregor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Try this one as well:
> 
> http://www.kididdles.com/
> 
> 
> On 5/27/07 7:40 AM, "Tim Rasinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Deb:  Sure thing.  Here it is below:
> > 
> > Websites for Finding Songs and Music
> > 
> > 
> > Songs for Children
> > 
> > 
> > http://judyanddavid.com/cma.html
> > 
> >   http://www.bussongs.com/
> > 
> >   
> > http://www.theteachersguid
> > e.com/ChildrensSongs.htm
> > 
> > http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/music.htm
> > 
> > http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/m
> > usic.htm#index
> > 
> >   http://www.head-start.lane.or.us/education/activities/music/index.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Folk Songs and Songs of America
> > 
> >   http://www.contemplator.com/america/
> > 
> >   http://folklyrics.classic-sf.co.uk/
> > 
> >   
> > http://www.ftmeade.army.mil/songs.html
> > 
> > http://www.scoutsongs.com/categories/patriotic.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > At 09:10 AM 5/27/2007 -0400, you wrote:
> >> Is it possible to give the lyrics website without attaching it?  I cannot
> >> get the attachment to open.  Thanks so much for your input.
> >> Deb
> >> 
> >> 
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> > Timothy Rasinski, Ph.D.
> > Reading and Writing Center
> > 404 White Hall
> > Kent State University
> > Kent, OH  44242
> > 
> > email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Phone:  330-672-0649
> > Cell:  330-962-6251
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> District Literacy Coach & Mentor
> Todd County School District
> Box 87
> Mission SD  57555
>  
> http:www.tcsdk12.org
> ph. 605.856.2211
> 
> 
> Literacies for All Summer Institute
> "Literate Lives:  A Human Right"
> July 12-15, 2007
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> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)

[Tim Rasinski]

Here it is again embedded in this note.


Websites for Finding Songs and Music


Songs for Children


<http://judyanddavid.com/cma.html>http://judyanddavid.com/cma.html

http://www.bussongs.com/

<http://www.theteachersguide.com/ChildrensSongs.htm>http://www.theteachersguide.com/ChildrensSongs.htm
 


http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/music.htm

<http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/music.htm#index>http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/music.htm#index
 


http://www.head-start.lane.or.us/education/activities/music/index.html

<http://www.kididdles.com/>http://www.kididdles.com/

http://www.jmeacham.com/calendar.htm#s.p.inserts  (Calendar songs and poems)



Folk Songs and Songs of America

<http://www.contemplator.com/america/>http://www.contemplator.com/america/

http://folklyrics.classic-sf.co.uk/

<http://www.ftmeade.army.mil/songs.html>http://www.ftmeade.army.mil/songs.html

http://www.scoutsongs.com/categories/patriotic.html






At 04:55 PM 5/27/2007 -0400, you wrote:

>  Hi, Tim.
>Did the attachment 'unattach'?? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tim Rasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
>
>Sent: Sun, 27 May 2007 9:02 am
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] wAndering minds (addendum to my last post)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Bill:  your comment below reminded me about some research that has been
>done on the use of songs lyrics for reading, especially reading
>fluency.  Susan Homan, Marie Biggs and myself have done some interesting
>work in Hillsborough County in Florida where kids were taught lyrics to
>songs (actually singing the songs), 30 minutes, 3 times a week.  In about
>three months times the students make over a year's gain in fluency and
>comprehension.  Gwynned Ash at Texas State reported similar gains with her
>Karaoke Club-- children learning to read by singing songs (repeated
>readings/singings)  of songs on a Karaoke machine.?
>?
>
>I remember singing in school all the time; but less evidence of it every
>year nowadays.  That's too bad.  In our reading clinic we sing every
>day.  This summer we will doing a lot of patriotic songs - Grand Old Flag,
>This Land Is Your Land,  God Bless America,   On the day before the 4th
>of July we will gather all our students in our reading clinic outside the
>building around the flagpole and have a patriotic sing-a-long for the last
>30 minutes class.  Great way to end the day and a lot of good reading
>takes place too.?
>?
>
>I am attaching a list of websites I have found that are great repositories
>for song lyrics for kids.(Remember "Polly Wolly Doodle All day!"  :)?
>?
>
>Happy Memorial Day,?
>
>tim?
>?
>
>?
>
>At 05:04 PM 5/26/2007 -0400, you wrote:?
>
> > >?
>
> > > I'm reading Do I Really Have to Teach Reading? by Cris Tovani in 
> which she?
>
> > > says that teens would rather be lazy than stupid.  I asked my 
> students (in?
>
> > > one class) if they think that's true.  They did.  More disappointment.?
>
> > > Jan?
>
> >?
>
> >Here's an idea which won't make them sound stupid:?
>
> >?
>
> >Have them bring in lyrics to their favorite songs.  Have them read them?
>
> >aloud to practice fluency and prosody (of course, you have to make sure?
>
> >lyrics are okay for school).  Then have them explain the song.  See if?
>
> >students will agree on the interpretations.  Since you probably won't be as?
>
> >familiar with the songs, they will get to be the teachers.  For example, I?
>
> >use "So Happy Together" by the Turtles to explain it's about a stalker?
>
> >("IMAGINE me and you, I do...").  That gets their attention.  I also play?
>
> >"Mac the Knife" and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" by the Beatles which are 
> about?
>
> >serial killers.  It's reading, interpreting, schema, and more!?
>
> >?
>
> >Bill?
>
> >?
>
> >?
>
> >?
>
> >___?
>
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> >?
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>
>Timothy Rasinski, Ph.D.?
>
>Reading and Writing Center?
>
>404 White Hall?
>
>Kent State University?
>
>Kent, OH  44242?
>?
>
>email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Phone:  330-672-0649?
>