Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-10 Thread NANCY HAGERTY
I highly recommend doing a Punctuation Study a la Katie Wood Ray.  I have
used it with all ages and have had the best results of anything else I have
ever tried.  The students need to actually experience why punctuation is so
important. They need to see that the author (them) really has an obligation
to show the reader exactly how to read the text infront of them. Only then
do they take charge of their own writing.


On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, evelia cadet cadeteve...@hotmail.comwrote:

 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's
 like they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching
 writing. I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a
 period. Any ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be
 composing two pieces of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate
 situation. Thank you in advance.

 Evelia

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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-10 Thread Sally Thomas
Yes, I agree totally with this

Sally
On Dec 10, 2012, at 4:53 AM, NANCY HAGERTY wrote:

 I highly recommend doing a Punctuation Study a la Katie Wood Ray.  I have
 used it with all ages and have had the best results of anything else I have
 ever tried.  The students need to actually experience why punctuation is so
 important. They need to see that the author (them) really has an obligation
 to show the reader exactly how to read the text infront of them. Only then
 do they take charge of their own writing.
 
 
 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, evelia cadet cadeteve...@hotmail.comwrote:
 
 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's
 like they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching
 writing. I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a
 period. Any ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be
 composing two pieces of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate
 situation. Thank you in advance.
 
 Evelia
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-10 Thread Rachael Bryant
Hi from Australia! We stole a fabulous idea from the UK - 'Kung Fu
Punctuation'. Our Years 2- 4 'Kung Fu' their work and they love it. It's
kinaesthetic and a lot of fun. The Punctuation Pyramids work as reminders
for the children of the types of punctuation available to them. It's not for
every teacher, you have to be open to being a little bit silly with your
students. Our Year 2 teacher puts on her Kung Fu robe, plays a snippet of
'Kung Fu Fighting' and the whole class practices punctuating a paragraph
using their Kung Fu moves... and yes, it does translate into their writing.
There are a few different versions around, we allowed our students to come
up with the moves to suit each punctuation mark. Google it if you're
interested, there's quite a bit out there on the net.

Rachael 

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   1. Writing Punctuation (evelia cadet)
   2. Re: Writing Punctuation (Sally Thomas)
   3. Re: Writing Punctuation (Lori D)
   4. Re: Writing Punctuation (Tracy Sachs)
   5. Re: Writing Punctuation (Deborah Hopp)
   6. Re: Common Core Non-Fiction (Rachel Kimboko)
   7. Bibliotherapy for Transitions (Meghan Formel)
   8. Re: Bibliotherapy for Transitions (Deborah Hopp)
   9. Re: Bibliotherapy for Transitions (Mena)
  10. Re: Writing Punctuation (NANCY HAGERTY)
  11. Re: Writing Punctuation (Sally Thomas)


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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 15:58:57 -0600
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My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's
like they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching
writing. I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a
period. Any ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be composing
two pieces of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate situation. Thank
you in advance.

Evelia

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an oldie but goodie strategy is to have kids read their piece's from the end
backwards.  So read what they think is the last sentence.  use a slash or
whatever but does it make sense the way you read it?  then the next to the
last sentence.  Of course they won't know exactly where the sentence starts
anymore than where it ends but it is experimenting till they get it as they
want it.  This breaks up that ongoing flow of meaning and kind of focuses
their understanding on JUST the sentence. 

 I think we lose sight of the fact that it is just not that easy to do!
To wit, I work on it all the way thru graduate students.   Clauses of all
kinds have subjects and verbs so that determination alone doesn't do the
trick.  So I try to help the kids see they are the owners of their writing
and need to work with it till it communicates clearly what they want.  AND
unless they actually have some ownership, none of this works very well.  So
it cannot all be assignments.

I read a great great chapter in a book/article that I wish I could find now.
But it was a plea that knowing where to put periods, e.g. a complete thought
or idea, is a HUGE 

Sally
On Dec 8, 2012, at 1:58 PM, evelia cadet wrote:

 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's
like they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching
writing. I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a
period. Any ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be composing
two pieces of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate situation. Thank
you in advance.
 
 Evelia
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-10 Thread Jennifer Quinett Joyner
Is there a certain book that use from Katie Wood Ray or do I just do a search 
and she has activities...

Jennifer Joyner
Bugg Elementary-4th Grade
jjoyn...@wcpss.net
(919)250-4750


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Date: 12/10/2012 08:53AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

I highly recommend doing a Punctuation Study a la Katie Wood Ray.  I have
used it with all ages and have had the best results of anything else I have
ever tried.  The students need to actually experience why punctuation is so
important. They need to see that the author (them) really has an obligation
to show the reader exactly how to read the text infront of them. Only then
do they take charge of their own writing.


On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, evelia cadet cadeteve...@hotmail.comwrote:

 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's
 like they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching
 writing. I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a
 period. Any ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be
 composing two pieces of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate
 situation. Thank you in advance.

 Evelia

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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-10 Thread NANCY HAGERTY
Study Driven, by Katie Wood Ray.


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jennifer Quinett Joyner jjoyn...@wcpss.net
 wrote:

 Is there a certain book that use from Katie Wood Ray or do I just do a
 search and she has activities...

 Jennifer Joyner
 Bugg Elementary-4th Grade
 jjoyn...@wcpss.net
 (919)250-4750


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 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 From: NANCY HAGERTY
 Sent by: Mosaic
 Date: 12/10/2012 08:53AM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

 I highly recommend doing a Punctuation Study a la Katie Wood Ray.  I have
 used it with all ages and have had the best results of anything else I have
 ever tried.  The students need to actually experience why punctuation is so
 important. They need to see that the author (them) really has an obligation
 to show the reader exactly how to read the text infront of them. Only then
 do they take charge of their own writing.


 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, evelia cadet cadeteve...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's
  like they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching
  writing. I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a
  period. Any ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be
  composing two pieces of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate
  situation. Thank you in advance.
 
  Evelia
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-09 Thread Deborah Hopp
Using a rubric for them to self check their drafts and then have peer editing 
also.  Writing conferences are a way for them to learn.  When my first graders 
forgot their punctuation, I would have them fix it while they were in a writing 
conference with me.  Maybe you could do a mini lesson with a paragraph with no 
periods and have them put them in as a whole group.  You could go on a 
detective missing periods hunt and make it a competition.  I'm sure 4th grade 
would love that!  Give them many opportunities for free writing, such as 
journals even if it is for homework and then have them fix each others work. 
Remind them true writing is a process. 



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Real aloud Punctuation Takes a Vacation. Model how to insert punctuation 
correctly on an overhead projector or document camera with a colorful marker 
(preferably not red). When it's time for a period, have them make put out their 
pointer finger like they are popping a bubble and have them say pop. It is 
auditory, visual and kinesthetic. Eventually, give them thinking markers - 
flair pens for them to insert their punctuation... let the writing begin!Lori

 From: cadeteve...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 15:58:57 -0600
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation
 
 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's like 
they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching writing. I 
honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a period. Any ideas 
would be appreciated. In few months they will be composing two pieces of 
writing 
for the state exam. It is a desperate situation. Thank you in advance.
 
 Evelia
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-08 Thread Sally Thomas
an oldie but goodie strategy is to have kids read their piece's from the end 
backwards.  So read what they think is the last sentence.  use a slash or 
whatever but does it make sense the way you read it?  then the next to the last 
sentence.  Of course they won't know exactly where the sentence starts anymore 
than where it ends but it is experimenting till they get it as they want it.  
This breaks up that ongoing flow of meaning and kind of focuses their 
understanding on JUST the sentence. 

 I think we lose sight of the fact that it is just not that easy to do!
To wit, I work on it all the way thru graduate students.   Clauses of all kinds 
have subjects and verbs so that determination alone doesn't do the trick.  So I 
try to help the kids see they are the owners of their writing and need to 
work with it till it communicates clearly what they want.  AND unless they 
actually have some ownership, none of this works very well.  So it cannot all 
be assignments.

I read a great great chapter in a book/article that I wish I could find now.  
But it was a plea that knowing where to put periods, e.g. a complete thought or 
idea, is a HUGE 

Sally
On Dec 8, 2012, at 1:58 PM, evelia cadet wrote:

 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's like 
 they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching writing. 
 I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a period. Any 
 ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be composing two pieces 
 of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate situation. Thank you in 
 advance.
 
 Evelia
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-08 Thread Tracy Sachs
I've taught first and second grade.  Most students, if they read what they
wrote out loud to someone else, and you teach them to listen where they
pause and their voice goes down, they can get it.  You have to model it
first.

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, evelia cadet cadeteve...@hotmail.comwrote:

 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's
 like they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching
 writing. I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a
 period. Any ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be
 composing two pieces of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate
 situation. Thank you in advance.

 Evelia

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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation

2012-12-08 Thread Lori D

Real aloud Punctuation Takes a Vacation. Model how to insert punctuation 
correctly on an overhead projector or document camera with a colorful marker 
(preferably not red). When it's time for a period, have them make put out their 
pointer finger like they are popping a bubble and have them say pop. It is 
auditory, visual and kinesthetic. Eventually, give them thinking markers - 
flair pens for them to insert their punctuation... let the writing begin!Lori

 From: cadeteve...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 15:58:57 -0600
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: [MOSAIC] Writing Punctuation
 
 My 4th grade students are not ending their sentences with a period. It's like 
 they don't know when a sentence ends. This is my first year teaching writing. 
 I honestly don't know how to help them recognize when to add a period. Any 
 ideas would be appreciated. In few months they will be composing two pieces 
 of writing for the state exam. It is a desperate situation. Thank you in 
 advance.
 
 Evelia
 
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