Re: [Moses-support] integration of efmaral word alignment in Moses pipeline/EMS

2016-12-07 Thread Jorg Tiedemann

> 
> From the GitHub pages it appears that eflomal supercedes efmaral

this is true, I guess


> — is there any purpose therefore in using efmaral?

it is a bit faster (but consumes more memory).
eflomal does not support the fast_align input format at the moment but that can 
easily be fixed if necessary.


> Also, the linked PBML paper has no mention of eflomal — how does it perform 
> in downstream BLEU tasks? Is it comparable to what you reported in Table 4?

eflomal did not exist at the tie of writing that paper. We haven’t done the 
BLEU evaluations but I expect no big difference. Actually, efmoral can be run 
with parameter settings that makes it equivalent to efmaral.


So, eflomal should be the way to go. It wouldn’t be too hard to support both I 
guess but I don’t dare to touch the experiment,perl monster

Jörg



> matt
> 
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Jorg Tiedemann  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> efmaral and eflomal are efficient Markov chain word aligners using Gibbs 
>> sampling that can be used to replace GIZA++/fast_align in the typical Moses 
>> training pipelines:
>> 
>> https://github.com/robertostling/efmaral
>> https://github.com/robertostling/eflomal
>> 
>> Would anyone be interested in adding support in the Moses pipelines and 
>> experiment.perl?
>> Input and output formats are compatible with fast_align and Moses formats.
>> 
>> The tools could also be mentioned at statmt.org/moses
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Jörg
>> 
>> —
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>> Department of Modern Languages
>> University of Helsinki
>> http://blogs.helsinki.fi/language-technology/
>> —
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Re: [Moses-support] integration of efmaral word alignment in Moses pipeline/EMS

2016-12-07 Thread Matt Post
Hi,

From the GitHub pages it appears that eflomal supercedes efmaral — is there any 
purpose therefore in using efmaral? Also, the linked PBML paper has no mention 
of eflomal — how does it perform in downstream BLEU tasks? Is it comparable to 
what you reported in Table 4?

matt


> On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Jorg Tiedemann  wrote:
> 
> 
> efmaral and eflomal are efficient Markov chain word aligners using Gibbs 
> sampling that can be used to replace GIZA++/fast_align in the typical Moses 
> training pipelines:
> 
> https://github.com/robertostling/efmaral
> https://github.com/robertostling/eflomal
> 
> Would anyone be interested in adding support in the Moses pipelines and 
> experiment.perl?
> Input and output formats are compatible with fast_align and Moses formats.
> 
> The tools could also be mentioned at statmt.org/moses
> 
> All the best,
> Jörg
> 
> —
> Jörg Tiedemann
> Department of Modern Languages
> University of Helsinki
> http://blogs.helsinki.fi/language-technology/
> —
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Moses-support] integration of efmaral word alignment in Moses pipeline/EMS

2016-12-07 Thread Jorg Tiedemann

efmaral and eflomal are efficient Markov chain word aligners using Gibbs 
sampling that can be used to replace GIZA++/fast_align in the typical Moses 
training pipelines:

https://github.com/robertostling/efmaral
https://github.com/robertostling/eflomal

Would anyone be interested in adding support in the Moses pipelines and 
experiment.perl?
Input and output formats are compatible with fast_align and Moses formats.

The tools could also be mentioned at statmt.org/moses

All the best,
Jörg

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Department of Modern Languages
University of Helsinki
http://blogs.helsinki.fi/language-technology/
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