Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven
Thanks so much for the responses everyone! Sharon Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2018, at 2:58 PM, JANET JOHNSON wrote: > > No, it wouldn't verify the environment is warming. The last 2 years have > actually been cooler. > >> On December 5, 2018 at 2:31 PM jbaum...@usfamily.net wrote: >> >> >> Which would verify the science that the environment is warming . . . . which >> allows birds such as robins to overwinter here now. It hasn't been uncommon >> for 5-8 years in the Cities. >> >> Quoting Mary M White / Charles R Neil : >> >>> But isn't it true that large numbers of over-wintering robins in the Twin >>> Cities is a relatively new phenomenon? I am now 67 and grew-up in St. Paul, >>> and it seems to me that very few robins overwintered when I was a boy. >>> There were likely many fewer Twin Cities Christmas counts in the 1950s and >>> 60s, but my guess is that a review of those counts would show that >>> over-wintering robins were rare at that time. >>> Chuck Neil, Embarrass >>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:15 PM Manley Olson wrote: Robins regularly overwinter, sometimes in large numbers. Counts in the hundreds have been recorded on area Christmas counts. As long as the crab apples hold out you will see them in your yard. I have seen a few this past week. Manley Olson Minneapolis > On 12/5/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon Fischtrom wrote: > I?m curious - I have a flock of robins hanging out in my crab apple tree - shouldn?t they get the heck out of here? Like last month? > > Sharon Fischtrom > St. Paul Highland Park > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Baer wrote: >> >> The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning sitting in the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the north side. A look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. Still large numbers of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. >> >> Bruce Baer >> >> Bloomington >> >> >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html >>> >>> >>> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net >>> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html >>> >> >> >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven
No, it wouldn't verify the environment is warming. The last 2 years have actually been cooler. > On December 5, 2018 at 2:31 PM jbaum...@usfamily.net wrote: > > > Which would verify the science that the environment is warming . . . . which > allows birds such as robins to overwinter here now. It hasn't been uncommon > for 5-8 years in the Cities. > > Quoting Mary M White / Charles R Neil : > > > But isn't it true that large numbers of over-wintering robins in the Twin > > Cities is a relatively new phenomenon? I am now 67 and grew-up in St. Paul, > > and it seems to me that very few robins overwintered when I was a boy. > > There were likely many fewer Twin Cities Christmas counts in the 1950s and > > 60s, but my guess is that a review of those counts would show that > > over-wintering robins were rare at that time. > > Chuck Neil, Embarrass > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:15 PM Manley Olson wrote: > > > >> Robins regularly overwinter, sometimes in large numbers. Counts in the > >> hundreds have been recorded on area Christmas counts. As long as the > >> crab apples hold out you will see them in your yard. I have seen a few > >> this past week. > >> Manley Olson Minneapolis > >> > >> On 12/5/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon Fischtrom wrote: > >> > I?m curious - I have a flock of robins hanging out in my crab apple tree > >> - shouldn?t they get the heck out of here? Like last month? > >> > > >> > Sharon Fischtrom > >> > St. Paul Highland Park > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > >> >> On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Baer wrote: > >> >> > >> >> The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning > >> sitting in the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the > >> north side. A look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. > >> Still large numbers of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, > >> Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. > >> >> > >> >> Bruce Baer > >> >> > >> >> Bloomington > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > >> >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > >> > > >> > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > >> > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > >> > > >> > >> > >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > >> > > > > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven
Which would verify the science that the environment is warming . . . . which allows birds such as robins to overwinter here now. It hasn't been uncommon for 5-8 years in the Cities. Quoting Mary M White / Charles R Neil : But isn't it true that large numbers of over-wintering robins in the Twin Cities is a relatively new phenomenon? I am now 67 and grew-up in St. Paul, and it seems to me that very few robins overwintered when I was a boy. There were likely many fewer Twin Cities Christmas counts in the 1950s and 60s, but my guess is that a review of those counts would show that over-wintering robins were rare at that time. Chuck Neil, Embarrass On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:15 PM Manley Olson wrote: Robins regularly overwinter, sometimes in large numbers. Counts in the hundreds have been recorded on area Christmas counts. As long as the crab apples hold out you will see them in your yard. I have seen a few this past week. Manley Olson Minneapolis On 12/5/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon Fischtrom wrote: > I?m curious - I have a flock of robins hanging out in my crab apple tree - shouldn?t they get the heck out of here? Like last month? > > Sharon Fischtrom > St. Paul Highland Park > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Baer wrote: >> >> The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning sitting in the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the north side. A look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. Still large numbers of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. >> >> Bruce Baer >> >> Bloomington >> >> >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven
Robins have been found on CBCs for a long time, including the first year in 1905. https://moumn.org/CBC/birds.php?bid=65130 If you look at the graph over time, there is a general trend towards a higher counts for the robin, both in terms of the number of counts reporting robins and the number of robins reported per participant, but there is a fair bit of variation. https://moumn.org/CBC/birds_graph.php?bid=65130 Gregg Severson Minneapolis On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:45 PM Mary M White / Charles R Neil < saarir...@gmail.com> wrote: > But isn't it true that large numbers of over-wintering robins in the Twin > Cities is a relatively new phenomenon? I am now 67 and grew-up in St. Paul, > and it seems to me that very few robins overwintered when I was a boy. > There were likely many fewer Twin Cities Christmas counts in the 1950s and > 60s, but my guess is that a review of those counts would show that > over-wintering robins were rare at that time. > Chuck Neil, Embarrass > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:15 PM Manley Olson > wrote: > > > Robins regularly overwinter, sometimes in large numbers. Counts in the > > hundreds have been recorded on area Christmas counts. As long as the > > crab apples hold out you will see them in your yard. I have seen a few > > this past week. > > Manley Olson Minneapolis > > > > On 12/5/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon Fischtrom wrote: > > > I’m curious - I have a flock of robins hanging out in my crab apple > tree > > - shouldn’t they get the heck out of here? Like last month? > > > > > > Sharon Fischtrom > > > St. Paul Highland Park > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Baer > wrote: > > >> > > >> The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning > > sitting in the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the > > north side. A look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. > > Still large numbers of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, > > Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. > > >> > > >> Bruce Baer > > >> > > >> Bloomington > > >> > > >> > > >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > > > > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven
But isn't it true that large numbers of over-wintering robins in the Twin Cities is a relatively new phenomenon? I am now 67 and grew-up in St. Paul, and it seems to me that very few robins overwintered when I was a boy. There were likely many fewer Twin Cities Christmas counts in the 1950s and 60s, but my guess is that a review of those counts would show that over-wintering robins were rare at that time. Chuck Neil, Embarrass On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:15 PM Manley Olson wrote: > Robins regularly overwinter, sometimes in large numbers. Counts in the > hundreds have been recorded on area Christmas counts. As long as the > crab apples hold out you will see them in your yard. I have seen a few > this past week. > Manley Olson Minneapolis > > On 12/5/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon Fischtrom wrote: > > I’m curious - I have a flock of robins hanging out in my crab apple tree > - shouldn’t they get the heck out of here? Like last month? > > > > Sharon Fischtrom > > St. Paul Highland Park > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Baer wrote: > >> > >> The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning > sitting in the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the > north side. A look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. > Still large numbers of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, > Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. > >> > >> Bruce Baer > >> > >> Bloomington > >> > >> > >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven
Robins regularly overwinter, sometimes in large numbers. Counts in the hundreds have been recorded on area Christmas counts. As long as the crab apples hold out you will see them in your yard. I have seen a few this past week. Manley Olson Minneapolis On 12/5/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon Fischtrom wrote: I’m curious - I have a flock of robins hanging out in my crab apple tree - shouldn’t they get the heck out of here? Like last month? Sharon Fischtrom St. Paul Highland Park Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Baer wrote: The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning sitting in the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the north side. A look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. Still large numbers of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. Bruce Baer Bloomington Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven
I’m curious - I have a flock of robins hanging out in my crab apple tree - shouldn’t they get the heck out of here? Like last month? Sharon Fischtrom St. Paul Highland Park Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Baer wrote: > > The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning sitting in > the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the north side. A > look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. Still large numbers > of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a > hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. > > Bruce Baer > > Bloomington > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Northern Raven
The Northern Raven was seen at the Bass Ponds at 9:30 this morning sitting in the trees along Long Meadow Lake. Then flying across to the north side. A look at the bird feeders at the refuge HQ might find it. Still large numbers of Hooded Mergansers present with Lesser Scaup, Ring-neck Duck, two swans, a hybrid Mallard, kingfisher. Bruce Baer Bloomington Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Albert Lea CBC
The date for the Albert Lea CBC is set for December 29. The group is meeting at the Caribou Coffee inside the Hy-Vee off Bridge Street at 7:30 a.m. So far about 8 people can make it, let me know if you would like to participate. Thanks Mike Majeski Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
