Password Profiles when?

2002-01-06 Thread Bill Lee

I've heard/read that someone is stalling this due to personal distaste 
for the feature, even though it's done.

bl





Re: Password Profiles when?

2002-01-06 Thread Christian Biesinger

Bill Lee wrote:

> I've heard/read that someone is stalling this due to personal distaste 
> for the feature, even though it's done.

No that's not quite true. From reading the bugreport at 
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 I get the impression 
that the module owner, who has to look at it before it can be added to 
Mozilla, is currently on vacation.

You should be aware of the fact that the part of the feature that is 
currently done does not provide any protection at all. Anybody who is 
able to use the Windows Explorer can read the profile data, such as 
Emails, Cookies and Preferences, without any difficulties.

-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  -- Benjamin Franklin





Re: Password Profiles when?

2002-01-06 Thread Peter Lairo

Christian Biesinger wrote:

> currently done does not provide any protection at all. 


Spoken like a true troll (inflammation via exaggeration).

You are aware that *0 < profile passwords < 128bit protection* is at 
least some protection? And in fact, it is the amount and type of 
protection many have been asking for - and YES, we *fully* understand 
the limitations! It seems people like you who are unable to see beyond 
black and white, or are incapable of comprehending subtle nuances.

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Regards,

Peter Lairo





Re: Password Profiles when?

2002-01-06 Thread Bill Lee

Peter Lairo wrote:

> Christian Biesinger wrote:
>
>> currently done does not provide any protection at all. 
>
>
>
> Spoken like a true troll (inflammation via exaggeration).
>
> You are aware that *0 < profile passwords < 128bit protection* is at 
> least some protection? And in fact, it is the amount and type of 
> protection many have been asking for - and YES, we *fully* understand 
> the limitations! It seems people like you who are unable to see beyond 
> black and white, or are incapable of comprehending subtle nuances.
>
Bravo.  Exactly the point.  These techno-geeks probably find it hard to 
think down to our poor subhuman levels of mere normal inteligence. 
 Everyone has only been asking for the same level of password protection 
that 4.7+ had.  Were NOT trying to protect Fort Knox here!  My wife, or 
my son are NOT going to go digging into the computer files to try to get 
at my emails and bookmarks for Christ's sake.  Get real.  Your diatribes 
of CIA class protection or nothing has grown tiresome.

bl





Re: Password Profiles when?

2002-01-07 Thread Christian Biesinger

Peter Lairo wrote:

> Christian Biesinger wrote:
>> currently done does not provide any protection at all. 
> Spoken like a true troll (inflammation via exaggeration).


If you think so... In the next sentence, I said that I meant that 
anybody can still read the profile files, even though the user might 
think they are now very well protected.


> You are aware that *0 < profile passwords < 128bit protection* is at 
> least some protection?


The password only prevents a user from choosing the profile in Mozilla's 
  profile list, afaik.

> And in fact, it is the amount and type of 
> protection many have been asking for


I still don't quite understand why somebody would like such a 
protection, but some seem to want it...

> - and YES, we *fully* understand 
> the limitations!


Well, you understand it. Will users also understand it?

> It seems people like you who are unable to see beyond 
> black and white, or are incapable of comprehending subtle nuances.


I'm not sure if I understand this sentence, it seems like parts of it 
are missing.

-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  -- Benjamin Franklin





Re: Password Profiles when?

2002-01-07 Thread Peter Lairo

Christian Biesinger wrote:

> If you think so... In the next sentence, I said that I meant that 
> anybody can still read the profile files, even though the user might 
> think they are now very well protected.


That's what the warning statement is for.

>> You are aware that *0 < profile passwords < 128bit protection* is at 
>> least some protection?


> The password only prevents a user from choosing the profile in Mozilla's 
>  profile list, afaik.


Correct. *That* is the "protection" most of us are asking for.


>> - and YES, we *fully* understand the limitations!


> Well, you understand it. Will users also understand it?


*I* am a user. And nearly everyone who has been requesting this is a 
user as well (as opposed to the Linux users & developers who have been 
opposing it).


>> It seems people like you who are unable to see beyond black and white, 
>> or are incapable of comprehending subtle nuances.


> I'm not sure if I understand this sentence, it seems like parts of it 
> are missing.


Not really, but it wasn't an important sentence anyhow - sorry. ;)

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Regards,

Peter Lairo