Re: quirks mode?

2002-02-24 Thread Andreas Fahrner

 Both pages have a doctype declaration for me?!

Try downloading one of the pages, e.g. www.uniklinik-freiburg.de , remove
the doctype declaration, and see what happens in Mozilla: Mozilla will
display the page without those spaces between the images, as it is displayed
in NN 4, Opera, and IE.

 They shouldn't. If you translate quirks to your language, you'll see
 that this mode is for pages written in a way they shouldn't have been
 written (unfortunately, that applies to 90% of the WWW nowadays). So,
 validate your pages with the W3C HTML and CSS validators

 http://validator.w3.org and http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ ), and
 make sure everything is fine, and then Mozilla will display the page
 99%ly as it should be displayed.

My page, http://www.ircass.org/, contains valid HTML 4.01 transitional and
valid CSS2. My question is: Why does Mozilla render these pages in a
different way when you remove the doctype declaration?

Andreas






Re: quirks mode?

2002-02-24 Thread RB

Andreas Fahrner wrote:

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 My page, http://www.ircass.org/, contains valid HTML 4.01 transitional and
 valid CSS2. My question is: Why does Mozilla render these pages in a
 different way when you remove the doctype declaration?

Because it renders it the right way when the doctype is declared. 
Have you checked Tables, Images, and Mysterious Gaps, 
http://developer.netscape.com/evangelism/docs/articles/img-table/ ?

 Andreas
 
 
 






quirks mode?

2002-02-23 Thread Andreas Fahrner

Hi!

If you've a look at http://www.ircass.org/ or
http://www.uniklinik-freiburg.de/ you will notice a difference between
Mozilla's rendering with and without the doctype declaration. Has this to do
with Mozilla's quirks mode? How do you have to change the pages so that they
display as in quirks mode but still have a doctype declaration?

Andreas






Re: quirks mode?

2002-02-23 Thread Sören Kuklau

Andreas Fahrner wrote:
 Hi!
 
 If you've a look at http://www.ircass.org/ or
 http://www.uniklinik-freiburg.de/ you will notice a difference between
 Mozilla's rendering with and without the doctype declaration.

Both pages have a doctype declaration for me?!

And both trigger the Mozilla standards mode.

 Has this to do with Mozilla's quirks mode?

They don't trigger quirks mode, at least not for me. If one did, and the 
other didn't, then _yes_, that could be one of the causes.

 How do you have to change the pages so that they
 display as in quirks mode but still have a doctype declaration?

They shouldn't. If you translate quirks to your language, you'll see 
that this mode is for pages written in a way they shouldn't have been 
written (unfortunately, that applies to 90% of the WWW nowadays). So, 
validate your pages with the W3C HTML and CSS validators ( 
http://validator.w3.org and http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ ), and 
make sure everything is fine, and then Mozilla will display the page 
99%ly as it should be displayed.

If Mozilla _really_ shows a page better in quirks mode than it does in 
standards mode while the page itself is absolutely fine and valid, then 
it's a bug. Please file it at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ . Thanks.

-- 
Regards,
Sören Kuklau ('Chucker')
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: quirks mode?

2002-02-23 Thread Christian Biesinger

Andreas Fahrner wrote:
 How do you have to change the pages so that they
 display as in quirks mode but still have a doctype declaration?

Use a doctype like:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
(ie. transitional and without a URL).

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