Re: Is there a Mozilla security process?

2005-06-27 Thread Amir Herzberg

Space Riqui wrote:

--- Heikki Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


after playing around for a while I managed to go to 
a site I had set a petname for but the petname 
field showed untrusted (I've been unable to

reproduce this, though)


This has happened to me a few times with the following web sites:

https://tryowa.arvinmeritor.com/
https://chaseonline.chase.com/chaseonline/home/sso_co_home.jsp


I tried both and didn't notice this particular problem. OTOH, I noticed 
petname (and spoofstick) does not handle multitab FF windows correctly, 
which is very confusing and annoying; maybe that was the cause of your 
problem?


BTW, these sites work fine for TrustBar (now using our 0.4 alpha version 
which also lets me `rename` them in the  bar directly, like `petname`; 
but I'm quite sure they worked also in the current 0.31 release).


Best, Amir Herzberg


Hope it helps.



 
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Re: Criteria for an antiphishing tool

2005-06-27 Thread Duane

Ian Grigg wrote:


2.  This policy seems to have arisen alongside or
from a closed meeting of a month or so ago.  Duane
(representing a CA of 2000 members) didn't get
invited to the closed meeting of CAs and browser
manufacturers.  No minutes, no agenda, no published
results.  There is only one word for that - compromised.


This reply isn't aimed at you Ian, but you happened to mention numbers 
that are a little out of date.


In any case I did ask on several occasions before the event if this was 
going to be a secret back room deal or open such as the source code only 
to be shouted down about breach of confidences, what about the 
confidences of the actual browser users that keeps getting touted as the 
holy grail.


To date I've seen nothing but contempt for most users with the closed 
meeting and no actual minutes or reports on the event and in fact I'm 
starting to think using the excuse about protecting users is merely a 
convenient line to throw out when it suits rather then actually being 
concerned about their welfare on an active basis.


So far to date I still haven't heard from the Mozilla foundation who was 
present, general over view of the event, any major decisions made likely 
to effect users of Mozilla software, so on an so forth.


Ian as for our numbers, that depends what you want to count...

As of the present moment we have 3,328 users that have appeared in 
person to verify their identity.


We have a further 644 that have partially proven their identity, but 
aren't considered completely verified in the system.


We have issued 53,175 certificates of which 28,108 are valid.

People have verified 39,284 email addresses and 16,776 domains, and 
there are 29,808 valid user accounts, of course this number keeps 
growing by the day, up to date figures can be seen on our website:


http://www.cacert.org/stats.php

Any other CAs publishing any similar stats?

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Best regards,
 Duane

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom
http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net!
http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers

I do not try to dance better than anyone else.
I only try to dance better than myself.
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Re: Need help w/programmatic installation of Client Certs

2005-06-27 Thread Mike Stokes
Customer demand. We have to support both browsers now.

Duane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mike Stokes wrote:
  Thanks again for all of your help Duane. I'm going to go do some more
  research on this. I can't use any of the technologies that you use due
to
  our in-house development standards and practices - no open source, so no
  PHP, no OpenSSL, etc. I also need to better understand the root cert
  technologies at a lower level.

 Then why are you using firefox?

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 Best regards,
   Duane

 http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
 http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
 http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom
 http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net!
 http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers

 I do not try to dance better than anyone else.
  I only try to dance better than myself.


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Re: Need help w/programmatic installation of Client Certs

2005-06-27 Thread Mike Stokes
Nelson,

Thanks for the info. I'm gonna go check out those Netscape reference docs
right away.


Nelson B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mike Stokes wrote:
  I'm new to the Netscape/Firefox/Mozilla platform and I've been tasked
with
  providing a programmatic method for our customers to use to install
client
  certificates. I'm looking for suggestions on how to approach a solution.
  Java applet? Extension? Plug-in?

 None of the above.  The functionality is built right in to the browser.
 A simple HTML is all that is needed to get the browser to generate a
 Certificate signing request, and another simple page (er, MIME content
 type) is all that's needed to download the user's new cert chain.

 This functionality is all inherited from the older Netscape browsers,
 and much of the original Netscape documentation on this subject still
 applies.  Look at

 http://wp.netscape.com/eng/security/comm4-keygen.html
 http://wp.netscape.com/eng/security/comm4-cert-download.html

 You can ask more questions here.

 -- 
 Nelson B


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Re: Criteria for an antiphishing tool

2005-06-27 Thread Gervase Markham

Ian Grigg wrote:

On the notion of common and consistent security
UI policy - how is that any different to follow the
leader ?  It's synonymous as far as I can see it.


sigh

The implication of the phrase follow the leader is that we are just 
doing what others are doing simply because they are doing it. This is 
clearly not the case - in partnership with the other browser vendors, we 
are together working out the most appropriate UI and then all 
implementing it. If anything (given that I wrote the proposal) _we_ are 
the leader.


Do you *oppose* a common and consistent security UI? If not, why am I 
wasting my time typing this? I apologise for being short with you, but 
this newsgroup has a great enough volume already without me having to 
write things which are unnecessary.


Gerv
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Re: Criteria for an antiphishing tool

2005-06-27 Thread Gervase Markham

Ian Grigg wrote:
This is  
clearly not the case - in partnership with the other browser vendors, we 
are together working out the most appropriate UI and then all 
implementing it.


This is news.  Are you intending to announce this or
does it remain embargoed ?  What is clear about it?
Who's in and who's out ?


It's not announced yet because it's still very much a draft, and because 
some organisations involved are a little reticent about their 
involvement. To take a phrase out of your book, the word is 'diplomacy'.



You (mozilla, you, everyone within) are not playing
fair.

snip

So fair is OK, I have big reservations about your ideas but I'm going 
to implement them anyway?


I've just noticed that this email has three more pages to it. I'm sorry, 
but I don't have time to read it, as I can see it's just an abusive 
monologue.


Gerv
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