Re: [MP3 ENCODER] (sorta OT) Copy Protection

2002-07-07 Thread DoC

Actually we have something like that under OS/2. It's called Tonigy (www.tonigy.com), 
an IFS (Installable File System). According to its homepage:

# represents audio tracks as WAV or RAW files
# represents video tracks as MPG files
# represents data tracks as ISO files
# allows to access CD-I files
# allows to access boot image of an ISO track

The integration with the system is quite seamless, as it operates on a very low level. 
For instance, other IFS available for OS/2 include VFAT, FAT32, EXT2, ZipStream 
(encrypted compressed filesystem) etc quite like a kernel module in Linux. Isn't there 
anything like that already made for Linux?

-- DoC

On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 15:13:36 +0100, Filipe Arnaldo de Carvalho Valpereiro wrote:

I just Remembert that Beos can copy a cdda track as a wave directly to 
the disk. Well, there's seems to be a similar utility to windows, but at 
the time i write this i didn't find any link :-(

Any way, i was thinking wand i guess that the extra track that contains 
normal data (normaly iso 9660 or joliet format) does the following:
when the cd is in drive, a autorun script runs a program, bypassing the 
windows driver so that it can install a properly driver to access the 
audio data.
Then you can play it using they player software, so that they are the 
only ones to access the audio data using that nasty 'driver'.

Seem more a viruse to me than a really driver.

The point in here is that in BeOS you can always intercept the data in 
the audio driver and send them to any place before it really came to the 
sound card (if it's a wave). this work has a sort of pipe.

Well, but playing cd's in a drive just send analog audio to the 
souncard. Any way, in order to the cd decode that data there's must be a 
driver that reconstruct the data so that the cd-rom can play-it.

So far so good, but that's were i stop. i don't know if the copy 
protecion system read the audio data and reconstruct them sending it to 
the audio card or there is any way of a cd-rom driver decod it without 
sending it to 'driver'.

Just a final note:

When i insert the copy protected cd i can see the tracks in explorer as 
a normal cd, even EAC recognize the tracks, it just can't rip them.

So i can only guess that this sort of 'driver' bypass the original one 
on Winows and reconstruct the cdda filesystem in order to play-it latter.
And eventualy, that 'driver' will only be accecible by the player ... :-(

Hope not be to boring ...
Any Help? Does any one know a utility to send the content of a driver to 
disk as in BeOS?
I will keep searching, and let everyone know about it if i found one ...

Best regards
Filipe

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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] (sorta OT) Copy Protection

2002-07-07 Thread Bob Cain



DoC wrote:
 
 Actually we have something like that under OS/2. It's called Tonigy (www.tonigy.com),
 an IFS (Installable File System).

Have you tried seeing what happens trying to access a copy protected
disk?  I  keep Charley Pride's A Tribute to Jim Reeves solely to have
one protected disk to try purported cracks on.  So far nothing has
appeared that even claims to do it.  It uses the SunnComm system.

Knowing how such a crack will be used I am truly ambivalent about it
ever happening.


Bob
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