Re: [Mpls] Buck Humphrey
In every event or convention that I have ever seen Buck in, he seems to be doing his utmost for whatever cause he is espousing, including SSB's campaign. Now, I wasn't at the Mpls City Convention, but I find it extremely hard to believe that he was not doing his damnest for the Mayor and anyone who believes he wasn't, including Shawn Towle, musn't have been watching him very closely. And this from someone who isn't even supporting SSB's reelection! And I do think he'd make a profoundly better Secretary of State than the jackass we have now. Loki Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ward 1 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 5/15/01 2:29:38 PM, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Buck Humphrey: > > Many have questioned where I got the story regarding > Buck Humphrey: > > Here is the link -- it was posted by Bill Dooley: > > "Interesting blurb in the May 13, 2001 edition of > the CHECKS AND BALANCES > online political newsletter. Under the title "You > Make the Call," the story > basically blames Buck Humphrey for the Sharon Sayles > Belton non-endorsement > because he did not work the delegates the week prior > to the convention. Here > is the story: > http://www.checksandbalances.com/MN/players-page/ppindex.htm"; > -- > EY: I'm still wondering who the sources were on > this -- there seem to be > lots of folks within the DFL very irritated at Buck > Humphrey. I think it a > stretch to blame Buck for SSB's poor performance at > the convention. > > Eva > Eva Young > Central > > >> > > Anyone who is so dissatisfied with Buck Humphrey, no > matter which party you > are traditionally part of, you are welcome to get > involved with the planning > of Green Party Member Chris Allison's campaign for > Secretary of State. > > Chris Allison > announced candidate for Secretary of State, seeking > Green Party endorsement > appointed member of Gov. Ventura's Advisory > Commission on redistricting > Green Party of MN Coordinating Committee member > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Whittier > ___ > Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls = "So quick bright things come to confusion." -Bill the Bard __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Civic Engagement and the U of Minn.
Thanks for putting that out there, Steven. As a member of the Advisory Panel for this Task Force, I would encourage everyone to get involved with this project, though, not just campaigns. It is an important mission that is working on institutional commitment to public purposes and responsibilities intended to strengthen a democratic way of life in our "rapidly changing Information Society of the 21st Century". It is a renewal of the commitment to public works that benefit of our city and society as a whole. In my opinion, it is important enough for everyone to get involved and not let civic participation be limited in any fashion. Jonathan Palmer Stevens Square-Loring Heights Leadership Does Matter! www.jonathanpalmer.org
Re: [Mpls] demonizing the schools
Lynnell Mickelsen wrote: >In watching Michael Atherton's responses to various posts on > public schools, I am struck by his absolute insistence that public > schools are a failure--no matter what response he gets from School > Board members or parents or anyone. I believe that my analysis of the state of the public schools is correct. If no one provides me any valid evidence to the contrary, why should my views change? Whether the public schools are successful depends on if you are looking down from the top, out from the middle or up from the bottom. The upper classes care little about the public schools because they don't use them. The middle class has the liberty to be ambivalent because they have some degree of choice, as well as complex support networks. That leaves the lower classes who are stuck with the worst schools in the country. We can never be a free society if we do not provide social mobility for those born into poverty. Education is the key. Because of an unusual set of circumstances I have experienced the American education from each of these societal levels, which is why I am so insistent on reform. Education was almost my demise, but has become my redemption. I have stood on the edge of the societal toilet. Without a second chance I would never have made it out and education was my escape route. I want this option to be available to all Americans and I don't really care how we do it. I support vouchers because I don't believe that the public schools have the ability to make the radical changes necessary to fix themselves. However, I would prefer to see the public system improved, because I feel that it provides us a shared national identity. Those of you who have been following this thread should realize that I have been aruguing for improvements in the public schools not for vouchers. > From my experience, this endlessly dark, destructive view of > public schools usually isn't just personal pessimism. It's a > deliberate conservative strategy: repeatedly say public schools are > an utter failure, then push towards privatizing them. So I'm a conservative...but the Republicans would disown me. I support gay marriage, a women's right to choose, and an end to the drug war. I do not identify with either party, because neither has a coherent political philosophy. I am most closely aligned with libertarian philosophy, but contrary to the party line I believe in a larger role for govenment in the business sector. > Of course, the vouchers Republicans propose aren't enough to > buy poor kids a good, private education. But these vouchers can open > the door for wealthier people to send their kids to private school > with public funds. This is, in the end, what the game is all about. > > It's true some struggling students do better in private > and/or charter schools. But it's in no small part because they have > parents who are passionate enough about education to actively seek > out and apply for these special schools. (An interesting aside > though: in Texas, the charter schools have turned out to be far worse > academically than the much-maligned public schools Last year 80 > percent of Texas students in public schools passed the basic state > test versus 37 percent of the students in charter schools. And it was > a really dumbed-down test.) > > The more interesting, broader question for voucher proponents > is how private schools would deal with the more difficult > students--the ones who arrive in school straight from a juvenile > detention facility, who have serious emotional, mental or physical > disabilities and whose parents aren't going to fill out the > application, much less show up at the school when their kid > misbehaves. I don't want these students in the regular public schools negatively impacting the education of others. In my day there were "continuation" schools for disruptive kids. There are already a number of private program to deal with troubled kids. If an effective voucher program was initiated then someone would probably start a program for them. > It's funny, but every time I propose that private schools > take on these kids and that we have an honest, fair competition with > private and public schools each working with the same mixed > populations, the conservatives tend to get pale and run for the > doors. As one lovely Republican parent whose kids go to St. Paul > Academy told me, "I will NEVER allow those kind of students at my > children's' school." My, my and he had just been regaling me about > the glories of opening the schools up to free market competition. Because the presence of these kids in mainstream classrooms is not conductive to quality education. I know because I was one of them. > This spring I've wondered about the Republican attacks on > education coming out of our state House --much of which is > specifically aimed at Minneapolis (and St. Paul) schools. So I asked
[Mpls] Minnehaha Creek Watershed media update
An update on the Watershed District's suit versus MnDOT. -- forwarded by David Brauer, list manager: Metropolitan Political Leaders Issue Joint Statement On Mndot Lawsuit By Minnehaha Creek Watershed District & Alleged Lrt Delays; Group Hopes Transportation Department Resolves Issue With New Design Change To Hwy. 55/62 Drainage System MINNEAPOLIS, MN., --May 24, 2001 A group of Metropolitan political leaders today released a joint statement about this weeks lawsuit filed by the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (MCWD) against the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT) over the protection of the Camp Coldwater Springs and MnDOTs allegation that such procedures will delay the metropolitan area s Light Rail Transit (LRT) schedule. The group includes, Mayor Sharon Sayles Belton, Hennepin County Commissioner Peter Mclaughlin, State Representative Wes Skoglund and City Council Member Sandy Colvin Roy (12th Ward) and Metropolitan Council Board Member District Eight Representative Carol Kummer, also the LRT Community Advisory Committee Chair. According to the group, The real issue is how soon MnDOT is willing to acknowledge the threat that the highway project represents to Camp Coldwater Springs and get the issue resolved. Joint Statement For the past two years, the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District has been raising concerns about whether the construction of the Highway 55 project will harm the Camp Coldwater Springs. For the past two months, the MCWD has been asking MnDOT to cooperate with a groundwater dye tracer test that would definitively answer the question of whether there is a groundwater flow connection between the Highway 55/62 interchange and the Springs. The MCWD maintains that there is extensive and credible evidence that the groundwater flow to the Springs could be reduced by 30% by the current design of the 55/62 interchange. That is an unacceptable result. The Minnesota Legislature recently passed legislation to protect the Springs from any decrease in groundwater flow, which Governor Ventura signed into law on May 15. There is no need for a modern highway project in Minnesota to threaten or compromise treasured water resources. MnDOT has suggested that taking a few weeks to complete the groundwater testing would delay LRT construction by a year. We reject the assertion that LRT is an issue here. In fact, the MCWD experts have confirmed that LRT construction poses no threat to the Springs. The real issue is how soon MnDOT is willing to acknowledge the threat that the highway project represents to the Camp Coldwater Springs and get the issue esolved. over-- It is in the best interests of both the Highway 55 construction project and Camp Coldwater Springs to resolve the concerns raised by the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District as soon as possible. It would seem that taking a few weeks to do proper testing would allow everyone concerned with both highway improvements and protecting the Springs to know the truth about the impacts of the current 55/62 interchange design. Better still, MnDOT's engineers should be working right now on design changes to assure that the highway construction poses no risks to the Springs. Whatever the price of these design changes, the taxpayers are sure to be better off with those changes made now, before the project is built, than trying to reengineer a more expensive fix later. There are times in public life when it is important to step back a moment from the heat of a dispute, or the pressures of construction schedules, and reflect on the long term legacies of our work. Surely those who have treasured the Springs for various reasons, the Legislature that passed protective legislation, and the Governor who signed it would all expect us to take every reasonable precaution to protect the Springs that are so central to our common history For more information on the lawsuit, see www.minnehahacreek.org. For more information on the Camp Coldwater legislation, see http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/cgi-bin/bldbill.pl?bill=S2049.1&session=l s82) Please call Martin Keller at 612-729-8585 or online at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any other information. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Minnehaha Creek Watershed) NO TRUST IN YOUR LEADERSHIP
As and advocate for Camp Coldwater Springs and Minnehaha Park for the past 5 years I am not surprised by the negative impact to Coldwater Springs by the construction of the Highway 55. I am surprised to see Mayor Sharon Sayles Belton, County Commissioner Peter McLaughlin, City Council Member Sandy Colvin Roy participating in a lawsuit to stop the damage to Coldwater Springs by the construction of Highway 55. I have had dozens of conversations over the years expressing my concern about the negative impact of dewatering/drawdown on Coldwater Springs with Mayor Sayles Belton, Peter McLaughlin, and Sandy Colvin Roy. I have been reassured countless times that NO negative impact would occur from the construction of Highway 55 on Coldwater Springs. My negative opinion of the project was based on information given to me from people who work in the highway construction industries. When expressing my opinion to these politicians, I was treated like an reactionary extremist that should find something better to do with my life. I thought informing elected officials to the damage was smart and pro-active. Thank you Mayor Sharon Sayles Belton, Commmisioner McLaughlin, Council Member Colvin Roy for coming to the table years too late. Your reactive behavior is a shining example of why the public has lost complete trust in your leadership. Sincerely, Ken Bradley, Minneapolis, 612-728-8962Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions $2 Million Sweepstakes - Got something to sell?
Re: [Mpls] Community Policing for Mpls?
Let's throw out the old notions of community policing and try this out for size. 1. Make police officers essential state employees with no union and no right to strike. 2. Double police officer salaries. 3. Have a zero tolerance policy for police misconduct. (No second or third chances.) 4. Require the more experienced officers to work the night shift and let the rookies and younger officers break in on the day shift. 5. Set policy academy recruitment goals such that the police force reflects the racial and ethnic makeup of the city. 6. Offer substantial and graded salary bonuses for officers who chose to live within specific city neighborhoods. Bill Dooley Ward 13-Kenny - Original Message - From: Matthew Dufresne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 5:56 PM Subject: [Mpls] Community Policing for Mpls? ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates
City Pages had a story re the Minneapolis City Council gay candidates. City Beat · · Vol 22 · Issue 1068 · 5/23/01 URL: www.citypages.com/databank/22/1068/article9569.asp HOME: www.citypages.com Rainbow Coalition by Leyla Kokmen In Minneapolis this year's election features a bumper crop of gay candidates. . . If it was in this story I missed it and I believe it has been discussed previously on this list. My question is: are all of the Minneapolis City Council gay candidates DFL-endorsed? If so, is it safe to assume that all will be elected? Bill Dooley Ward 13 - Kenny ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates
Scott Benson, Dean Kallenbach and Gary Schiff ater DFL endorsed. In Ward 10, where Doug Kress is running there is no endorsement by the DFL. Robert Lillegren is running against Brian Herron. Herron is DFL and Stonewall DFL endorsed. Megan Thomas Chair, Stonewall DFL - Original Message - From: "Dooley, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discuss Minneapolis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: [Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates > City Pages had a story re the Minneapolis City Council gay candidates. > City Beat · · Vol 22 · Issue 1068 · 5/23/01 > URL: www.citypages.com/databank/22/1068/article9569.asp > HOME: www.citypages.com > Rainbow Coalition > by Leyla Kokmen > In Minneapolis this year's election features a bumper crop of gay > candidates. . . > > If it was in this story I missed it and I believe it has been discussed > previously on this list. My question is: are all of the Minneapolis City > Council gay candidates DFL-endorsed? If so, is it safe to assume that all > will be elected? > > Bill Dooley > Ward 13 - Kenny > > > > > > ___ > Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates
Bill Dooley writes: >City Pages had a story re the Minneapolis City Council gay candidates. >URL: www.citypages.com/databank/22/1068/article9569.asp City Pages' lead reads: "Not only are there four openly gay candidates for city council..." It's too bad that City Pages repeats Lavender Magazine's mistake: ignoring 8th Ward candidate Robert Lilligren in a gay-candidate roundup. I know that compared to Scott Benson, Doug Kress, Gary Schiff, and Dean Kallenbach, Robert has the toughest task -- he's not DFL endorsed and has to beat incumbent Brian Herron. Still, Robert is continually rendered as a gay political "unperson," and that is frustrating to me as a citizen and a journalist. (Disclaimer: I am not supporting Robert or Brian; I like them both personally.) It's not fair to Robert, who in my opinion is a hard-working, credible, & serious candidate. If we're celebrating the maturation of Mpls in having so many good candidates who are gay, he deserves to be invited to the party. I hope reporters make enough calls outside the DFL establishment to get word of Robert's existennce. As a former political reporter for the urban weeklies -- papers which fancy themselves sophisticated observers of power -- I HATE to see this kind of mistake. At the very least, City Pages owes Robert a correction in its next issue. David Brauer King Field - Ward 10 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates
>Robert Lillegren is running against Brian Herron. Herron is DFL and >Stonewall DFL endorsed. > Many gays in the 8th ward were very disappointed by Stonewall's endorsement of Brian Herron over openly gay candidate Robert Lilligren. The current issue of Lavender Magazine covers Lilligren's campaign: http://www.lavendermagazine.com/156/156_news_13.html The incumbent is someone who will be a reliable vote for the Jackie Cherryhomes agenda -- which often isn't what is in the best interests of the Central Neighborhood. Lilligren has been active with the West Phillips Neighborhood and the Midtown Greenway Coalition. He will be a responsive and accessible alternative to Council Member Herron -- who is notorious for not returning phone calls, and basically being unresponsive to constituent concerns. Robert Lilligren has a campaign announcement list. To subscribe, write: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Lilligren's campaign website is at: http://www.voterobert.com/ Eva Young Central ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates
Ah, but Robert did score big time in the latest issue of Lavender. They must've hired an actual journalism school graduate since the issue featuring the Stonewall 4, since this article actually told us: -Robert's age -his personal and civic qualifications -his stands on issues other than TIF-financing none of which was ever asked of Gary,Scott,Dean or Doug. They also didn't ask him to strike a pose like they must've done with the others. All in all, I think Mr. Lilligren comes out a winner with the Lavender issue. Loki Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ward 1 --- David Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Dooley writes: > > >City Pages had a story re the Minneapolis City > Council gay candidates. > >URL: > www.citypages.com/databank/22/1068/article9569.asp > > City Pages' lead reads: "Not only are there four > openly gay candidates for > city council..." > > It's too bad that City Pages repeats Lavender > Magazine's mistake: ignoring > 8th Ward candidate Robert Lilligren in a > gay-candidate roundup. I know that > compared to Scott Benson, Doug Kress, Gary Schiff, > and Dean Kallenbach, > Robert has the toughest task -- he's not DFL > endorsed and has to beat > incumbent Brian Herron. > > Still, Robert is continually rendered as a gay > political "unperson," and > that is frustrating to me as a citizen and a > journalist. (Disclaimer: I am > not supporting Robert or Brian; I like them both > personally.) It's not fair > to Robert, who in my opinion is a hard-working, > credible, & serious > candidate. If we're celebrating the maturation of > Mpls in having so many > good candidates who are gay, he deserves to be > invited to the party. > > I hope reporters make enough calls outside the DFL > establishment to get word > of Robert's existennce. As a former political > reporter for the urban > weeklies -- papers which fancy themselves > sophisticated observers of > power -- I HATE to see this kind of mistake. > > At the very least, City Pages owes Robert a > correction in its next issue. > > David Brauer > King Field - Ward 10 > > ___ > Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls = "So quick bright things come to confusion." -Bill the Bard __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] civic engagement & the U of M
I agree entirely that this is an effort that should be followed closely and thank Steve for calling our attention to it. However, checking out the U's website on it has prompted me to send along the following message, offered in a constructive spirit, to the U: Susan--Some months back, when I first heard of this effort, which I applaud, all of the committees had some members, except, somewhat ironically I thought, the community partnership committee, which was vacant. I'm pleased to see that there are now some half-dozen members of the U faculty on the committee. I suggest that it would also be a good idea to add some community members. Paul Zerby I think that if list members who are in agreement or have suggestions to offer also contact the address given us in Steve's message the U might be receptive to broadening the committee; at least I would think so. = Paul Zerby A DFLer for Change on City Council Ward 2 www.zerby.com/paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Minnehaha Creek Watershed) NO TRUST IN YOUR LEADERSHIP
Ken stole my thunder on this one. The impression I got from local government was camp coldwater/spring wasn't worth 2 cents. The mayor was not a supporter of the spring whatsoever. With that being said, better late than never. I could rail against these people as long as the grass grows and the rivers run. But I won't. Let's be honest about the spring and not only the underground flow, but the run off from the road which is as much a concern for me as well. Let's keep this water drinkable! I have been told that the people of Mpls were directed to go to the spring in 1978 for water, as the city was having an interruption in supply. So indeed this is not only a historic resource but a future resource we should take good care of. It's too bad that a Burr Oak Savannah wasn't considered such an important resource to this city. chop chop It's too bad seven well built homes weren't considered such an important resource to this city in the midst of an affordable housing shortage. Not to mention all the houses that were taken for this road to hellI mean the Fall of America, there's a place to run for your life. joe's comin' in dfl, Robert Yorga new3 ken bradley wrote: > As and advocate for Camp Coldwater Springs and Minnehaha Park for the > past 5 years I am not surprised by the negative impact to Coldwater > Springs by the construction of the Highway 55. I am surprised to see > Mayor Sharon Sayles Belton, County Commissioner Peter McLaughlin, City > Council Member Sandy Colvin Roy participating in a lawsuit to stop the > damage to Coldwater Springs by the construction of Highway 55. > > > --- > ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates
Loki Anderson writes: > Ah, but Robert did score big time in the latest issue > of Lavender. They must've hired an actual journalism > school graduate since the issue featuring the > Stonewall 4, since this article actually told us: > > -Robert's age > -his personal and civic qualifications > -his stands on issues other than TIF-financing > > none of which was ever asked of Gary,Scott,Dean or > Doug. They also didn't ask him to strike a pose like > they must've done with the others. All in all, I think > Mr. Lilligren comes out a winner with the Lavender > issue. That's debatable, since Robert wasn't on the big, bold, happy cover of Lavender as the other candidates were. The subsequent Lilligren inside one-page feature was what we in the biz call a "make-good." Perhaps Lavender overcompensated, or didn't. The point is we could avoid all debates over fairness had Robert been initially included in both round-ups, as he deserved to be. If someone wants to do a round-up on "DFL-endorsed gay candidates," they can fairly ignore Robert (though they'd have to ignore Doug Kress, too). If someone wants to do a story on "gay candidates who aren't challenging a DFL endorsee," they can fairly exclude Robert. But if they are doing a story on gay candidates running for city council, it's only fair and right that they include Robert...somewhere! David Brauer King Field - Ward 10 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Minnehaha Creek Watershed) NO TRUST IN YOUR LEADERSHIP
Isn't it an election year Ken? Typical current establishment behavior. Russ Peterson Former Standishite ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis City Council Gay Candidates
Excuse me? If Herron is so "unresponsive" to constituent concerns, how is it that he told the neighborhood that the motel idea in Central is dead as a kipper on a cracker? Further, a lot of gays in the Eighth Ward were happy with Herron as the Stonewall endorsee. WizardMarks Eva Young wrote: He will be a responsive and accessible > alternative to Council Member Herron -- who is notorious for not returning > phone calls, and basically being unresponsive to constituent concerns. > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] better police practices
I am glad to see this issue getting some discussion as it's one of my prime concerns as a candidate for city council. The police undoubtedly have a difficult job which few of us would care to take on, particularly with the modest compensation and considerable grief, not to mention danger, that sometimes goes with the job, but there are clearly improvements that need to be made in the way the city deals with policing. In addition to ending racial profiling, re-evaluating CODEFOR, and further intensifying police training in nonviolent ways to deal with conflict, I believe we must look critically at the operation of the Civilian Police Review Board, at least giving it subpoena power over the officers, and probably using some independent administrative law judges to hear contested cases. But probably most important is the need to work harder, and more successfully, at community building between the police and those they are to protect and serve. It was disappointing to be at a recent meeting called by Melissa Martinez-Sones, an organizer in the Seward Community, to discuss the CCP/Safe Program and find it attended only by a like organizer from Longfellow, two council candidates (me, an unendorsed DFLer running for change in Ward 2, and Cam Gordon of the Greens), a representative from Paul Ostrow's office, none from Joan Campbell's office, and none from the police. However, it was useful to me to get from Melissa the following "Brainstormed list of goals for CCP/Safe" which I pass along to forward the discussion: 1. Active participation with the neighborhood. At a minimum, attending the crime and safety (or equivalent) meetings, but also attendance at other neighborhood meetings as appropriate. 2. Neighborhood organizations having a work schedule and job description for the team. 3. A commitment of at least one year by the CCP/Safe team with the two positions alternating so as to create overlap and ensure that one member of the team will have been in position for at least a year. 4. Provide the following information on a regular basis and in a comprehensive and timely manner: neighborhood specific crime maps, incident reports to accompany the crime maps, and information on any block club leader trainings or upcoming CCP/Safe meetings where neighborhood invovlement would be appropriate. 5. Be accessible by cell phone or pager--provide these numbers to the community and to the neighborhood organizations. 6. Timely response to phone calls, e-mails, and pages from both neighborhood organizations as well as neighborhood residents (within 24 hours excluding holidays, illness and vacation time). 7. Annual opportunity to meet with CCP/Safe supervisors to discuss neighborhood successes and challenges in working with the CCP/Safe team. 8. Use this meeting to develop goals for the upcoming year for the neighborhood and CCP/Safe in partnership. While this deals only with a part of the problem, it seems to me that specifics like this, and those that may be generated by discussion on the list could be useful to all of us in tackling the problems that I believe most of us would agree need some seriouw work. = Paul Zerby A DFLer for Change on City Council Ward 2 www.zerby.com/paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Minnehaha Creek Watershed) NO TRUST IN YOUR LEADERSHIP
It makes me wish we had elections every year or so. Russell W Peterson wrote: > > Isn't it an election year Ken? Typical current establishment > behavior. > > Russ Peterson > Former Standishite > > ___ > Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls -- Dean Lindberg 5335 39th Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55417 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Community Policing for Mpls?
I think that Bill has some things to think about here. I'm still wondering what the mayoral and council member candidates think about this though. Come on guys, don't be shy! I have also had a couple of people ask me to describe what my idea of community policing is or means. I believe that the essence of community policing is whatever a given community makes it. So if we were to take some of the given responses to my question we would have a police dept. that was paid more, that was more interactive with the community and also held much more accountable for their conduct, whose members were encouraged to live in the city of Minneapolis, who had better training, who got out of their cars more to speak to residents (if the residents felt comfortable enough and I think they eventually would with this new model), that there were more beat cops walking alone, etc...My point being that we can and should be able to make it into something that serves our given needs. Some people feel, including many in the police dept., that the Mpls. Police Dept. already is practicing community policing whether it be through CODEFOR, CCP/SAFE and/or other methods. I think we can do much better though. Cameron asked what we thought about CCP/SAFE. I personally feel that it is a big step forward for the Minneapolis Police Dept. but I know we can and should do more. The good thing about our SAFE teams is that they are much more responsive to the particular needs of the given neighborhoods and to individuals, at least in my experience. Our SAFE teams are the closest thing we have to community policing at this point and I feel that we should continue to support them and do our best to make them into what we want from our police dept. Then we can move into a much more holistic community policing approach that truly serves the wants and needs of Minneapolis and our various neighborhoods. I know that this is a bit pie-in-the-sky but we have to have something to work towards. I would like to hear what some of the rest of you think about this issue. What is your vision of true community policing, how can we achieve it and what are you willing to do to support it? Have a great Memorial Weekend. Respectfully, Matthew Dufresne Central ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] better police practices
Community Policing is an effort that comes out the community working with the police to determine the best policing methods for their neighborhood. This is truly SUPPOSED to be a partnership. Community Policing has had a very hard time in Minneapolis, for several reasons. But when I was working to try to get a program going in the Central neighborhood the biggest problem I had was getting the police to cooperate. They wanted to design the community policing effort and then get the community's buy-in. That is not the way to get a good community policing program going. The program is supposed to be a true partnership. IF we can get a good Community Policing partnership going, racial profiling, and many other issues would not be the issues they are currently because the police and the community would be working in partnership to tackle these issues in a realistic and humanistic manner. Community Policing has worked well in other cities, and I would challenge Chief Olson to work with one or two neighborhoods until his police force can get used to actually developing a REAL partnership with the neighborhoods. Minneapolis is fortunate to have many community based programs that are up and running, and Community Policing, in my opinion, is the natural next step. Matthea Smith Powderhorn Park - 9-4 = Matthea Little Smith MN DFL Affirmative Action Officer 612-724-2997 - Home 612-221-9675 - Cell "Community must not mean a shedding of our differences, nor the pathetic pretense that these differences do not exist...it is learning how to stand alone, unpopular and sometimes reviled, and how to make common cause with those others identified as outside the structures in order to define and seek a world in which we can all flourish." --- Audre Lorde __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Community Policing for Mpls?
--- Matthew Dufresne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some people feel, including many in the police > dept., that the Mpls. > Police Dept. already is practicing community > policing whether it be > through CODEFOR, CCP/SAFE and/or other methods. > I think we can do much > better though. The principle of Community Policing was not to be efforts that were designed by the police departments or any other government official that the community was supposed to attempt to make work. CODEFOR and CCP/SAFE are not programs that were designed BY the community...they were designed FOR the community. Had the community input, I venture to say that both programs would have been designed very differently. Matthea Smith Powderhorn Park 9-4 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Community Policing for Mpls?
Matthew Durfresne wrote: >I have also had a couple of people ask me to describe what my idea of >community policing is or means. I believe that the essence of community >policing is whatever a given community makes it. So if we were to take >some of the given responses to my question we would have a police dept. >that was paid more, that was more interactive with the community and >also held much more accountable for their conduct, whose members were >encouraged to live in the city of Minneapolis, who had better training, >who got out of their cars more to speak to residents (if the residents >felt comfortable enough and I think they eventually would with this new >model), that there were more beat cops walking alone, etc...My point >being that we can and should be able to make it into something that >serves our given needs. I suppose I feel the need to keep posting because I am a city council candidate who has experienced police brutality, although admittedly to a lesser degree than many people. I don't want the police getting out of their cars to talk to me. I don't want them pulling me over in my taxi as they have been doing lately "just to make sure everything is legal." I don't want to encounter them and because of my own experiences with the family of Efrain Depaz and other victims of police brutality, I often find myself reluctant to call them, even when there is a need, and I'm not sure I want the police getting out of their cars to "say hi and get to know me." I think the only way is to really drive it home that our taxes pay for police protection, therefore they should look at ALL of us as the people that employ them. The other touchy thing is the residency requirement. I think Matthew is right on that we as a city should make it more attractive for police who live in Minneapolis, but for those of us who are mistrustful of authority, it is disturbing to have the government deciding where someone should live. Most candidates have at this time said "I know most of the cops are good," but I have always had a history of mistreatment and harrassment and who knows why (I have long hair, I'm a taxi driver, my first name, etc., none of these justify this sort of treatment.) I understand that in that uniform is a human being that works in difficult conditions, and as such deserves a lot more money than she or he makes and more advancment opportunities, but until I started running for the city council I had never had a positive experience with the Minneapolis Police. As a council member I would work with law enforcement on some things, but as a private citizen I would prefer to limit my contact. -> | Tamir Nolley | Candidate for Mpls City Council, Ward 6 | Independence Party Endorsed | Hop on the Nolley Trolley ! | http://www.nolleytrolley.org/ -> ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Fwd: Mpls public schools fed funding threatened by Hilleary amendment
--- David Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 18:03:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: David Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Mpls public schools fed funding threatened > by Hilleary amendment > To: issues minneapolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: MPN Minnesota Politics National > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi all, The US House of Representatives passed an > amendment to the education funding bill yesterday > that > will require all k-12 schools that recieve any form > of > federal dollars from the Department of education to > allow youth groups targeting people under the age of > 21 access to the school if the organization has a > policy banning "homosexuals" from membership or > leadership positions. The amendment is deceptively > cited as "The Boy Scouts of America Equal Access > Act." > It would actually forbid a school district from > banning any group on the basis of that group > discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation, > so > the results of the legislation would reach far > beyond > requiring schools to allow access to just the Boy > Scouts of America. > > Furthermore, the act may be interpreted, in banning > discrimination against groups that officially ban > gay > and lesbian members and leaders, to require school > districts to give equal consideration in awarding > youth serving contracts to such groups. > > I would like to thank Rep. Martin Sabo for voting > against the overall education bill due to his > opposition to this amendment. The amendment passed > on > a voice vote. > > Minneapolis Public Schools federal funding is > threatened by this amendment. Calls are needed to > Senators Wellstone and Dayton to highlight our > communities concerns about this threat to our > schools > due to their support of equal opportunity for all > regardless of sexual orientation. > > Following is the text of the amendment. > > Thanks, > > David Strand > Loring Park, Ward 7 > > >Amendment No. 24 offered by Mr. HILLEARY: > > After part A of title IX of the bill, insert the > following (and redesignate provisions accordingly): > > > >PART B--EQUAL ACCESS TO PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES > >SEC. 921. SHORT TITLE. > > This part may be cited as the ``Boy Scouts of > America Equal Access Act''. > >SEC. 922. EQUAL ACCESS. > > (a) IN GENERAL.--Notwithstanding any other > provision of law, no funds made available through > the > Department of Education shall be provided to any > public elementary school, public secondary school, > local educational agency, or State educational > agency, > if the school or a school served by the agency-- > > (1) has a designated open forum; and > > (2) denies equal access or a fair opportunity to > meet to, or discriminates against, > > [Page: H2618] GPO's PDF > any group affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America > or > any other youth group that wishes to conduct a > meeting > within that designated open forum, on the basis of > the > membership or leadership criteria of the Boy Scouts > of > America or of the youth group that prohibit the > acceptance of homosexuals, or individuals who reject > the Boy Scouts' or the youth group's oath of > allegiance to God and country, as members or > leaders. > (b) TERMINATION OF ASSISTANCE AND OTHER > ACTION.-- > > (1) DEPARTMENTAL ACTION.--The Secretary is > authorized and directed to effectuate subsection (a) > by issuing, and securing compliance with, rules or > orders with respect to a public school or agency > that > receives funds made available through the Department > of Education and that denies equal access, or a fair > opportunity to meet, or discriminates, as described > in > subsection (a). > > (2) PROCEDURE.--The Secretary shall issue and > secure compliance with the rules or orders, under > paragraph (1), in a manner consistent with the > procedure used by a Federal department or agency > under > section 602 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 > U.S.C. > 2000d-1). > > (3) JUDICIAL REVIEW.--Any action taken by the > Secretary under paragraph (1) shall be subject to > the > judicial review described in section 603 of that Act > (42 U.S.C. 2000d-2). Any person aggrieved by the > action may obtain that judicial review in the > manner, > and to the extent, provided in section 603 of that > Act. > > (c) DEFINITIONS AND RULE.-- > > (1) DEFINITIONS.--In this section: > > (A) ELEMENTARY SCHOOL; LOCAL EDUCATIONAL AGENCY; > SECONDARY SCHOOL; STATE EDUCATIONAL AGENCY.--The > terms > ``elementary school'', ``local educational agency'', > ``secondary school'', and ``State educational > agency'' > have the meanings given the terms in section 8101 of > the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 > (as > in effect after the effective date of this Act). > > (B) SECRETARY.--The term ``Secretary'' means the > Secretary of Education, acting through the Assistant > Secretary for Civil Rights of the Department of > Education
[Mpls] Openly Gay Green Candidate
Add to the discussion of openly gay candidates in Minneapolis-Freeman Wicklund's school board candidacy. Freeman is seeking the Green Party endorsement for school board at the June 2nd endorsing convention of the Mpls/5th District Green Party. He submitted an impressive 28 page document to the candidate screening committee outlining his core campaign issues and how they tie into the 10 key values of the Green Party. I know Freeman sought to screen with the Central Labor Union after meeting with the teachers' union. He was intially told that they would send a screening form out to him right away. Two days later he was informed that he would not be recieving a form as the Central Labor Union had already decided to endorse three Dfl'ers. It's unfortunate that such a fine candidate was denied the opportunity to screen for labor endorsement. This is another strong candidate outside the Dfl endorsement process to watch! David Strand Loring Park Ward 7 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] better police practices
M Smith wrote: > > Community Policing is an effort that comes out > the community working with the police to > determine the best policing methods for their > neighborhood. People might want to read Chief Olson's monographs/books on community policing. They may find that our notions and his are not necessarily the same notions. WizardMarks, Central ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Community Policing
I agree with Matthea that community policing is about partnership and teh community must be involved from the start. In Seward we also had a difficult experience trying to develop a community policing program realted to our first phase of NRP. People worked and worked to get something and many are still frustrated and disappointed. Clearly this stems from a basic lack of agreement between police, neighborhood activists and others about what community policing is, and how to make it happen. It will be key to develop educational opportunities for rank and file police staff, residents as well as other city and neighborhood staff. These opportunities ought to include presentations and facilitation from people with proven track records in community-oriented policing from outside the police department, from outside Minneapolis and from outside (as well as inside) the law enforcement profession. I would like to see a mayor, police department and City Council as fired-up about (and willing to promote) community-oriented policing as they are today about CODEFOR. I would like to see us all sitting together as equals ready to learn and develop our shared vision of real community policing, defining the steps we need to take and taking them as soon as possible. Like Matthea and others on this list I think Minneapolis is ready and eager. Cam Gordon Candidate for Minneapolis City Council, Ward 2 914 Franklin Terrace Mpls. MN 55406-1101 (612) 332-6210 http://www.camgordon.org ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls