Some cluster problems/questions
I would very much appreciate your responses to the following questions. I am gathering this info to help me with the major clustering work that I would be doing soon. 1- QM1 was a member of the cluster, and as it was not needed any longer, it was deleted by someone (not me, not me : )!) a long time ago before it was removed from the cluster following the steps indicated in the Queue Manager Clusters manual. The server housing the queue manager has long been removed from the network. But it is still displayed on MQ Explorer as, I think, the cluster still thinks that it is part of the cluster. It cannot even be made hidden on the Explorer as there is not connection to the qmgr. I cannot remove it from the cluster as it does not exist any more. I have just issued on the full repository: RESET CLUSTER(MYCLUSTER) QMNAME(QM1) ACTION(FORCEREMOVE) Is there anything else I can/should do to get rid of all references to QM1? Is QM1 going to keep showing on the MQ Explorer forever? 2- When I look at the clusters on the MQ Explorer on the machine housing the full repository, I see the same cluster displayed twice. Why? I can hide one of them from the display but I am wondering why it shows twice in the first place. 3-If I remove a member from a cluster gracefully (meaning, following the steps mentioned in the Cluster manual and not delete the queue manager afterwards, it won t try to rejoin the cluster after 90 days as it was not removed forcibly. Correct? Will it stay in the MQ Explorer display for 90 days, and then go away completely (from the display)? Thank you, Ruzi Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: MQGET Question
At 10:36 AM Tuesday 8/19/2003, Meek, Bill wrote: Can someone provide me some sample VB code of how to get a specific message by using the MsgID or CorrelID field? Use the MsgID or CorrelID properties on the Message Descriptor object to set the value you want to select on. You may want to save the Message ID from an outgoing message to use for selecting a returning Correlation ID as in the following code fragments: Global SavedMsgID As String ' Store the Message ID you want to select on in SavedMsgID GetMsgDesc.CorrelId = SavedMsgID MQGET QMConnHandle, IQhandle, GetMsgDesc, GetMsgOpts, BuffLen, GetBuffer, ActualMsgLength, CompletionCode, Reason Hope this helps! -Will Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
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Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Some cluster problems/questions
1)) To remove it completely from the cluster issue the following command on the repository queue manager and from wherever else you want to remove. RESET CLUSTER(MYCLUSTER) QMID(string) ACTION( FORCEREMOVE ) You can Get the QMID using the command DISPLAY CLUSQMGR(MYCLUSTER) ALL This will display the QManager ID with which it is recognized in the cluster internally. 2)) I don't know this but let me know when you get the answer. 3)) MQExplorer is just a window to your MQ Setup. So whatever is the results from the RUNMQSC command, same should be the behavior with the MQExplorer. - Original Message - From: Ruzi R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:33 AM Subject: Some cluster problems/questions I would very much appreciate your responses to the following questions. I am gathering this info to help me with the major clustering work that I would be doing soon. 1- QM1 was a member of the cluster, and as it was not needed any longer, it was deleted by someone (not me, not me : )!) a long time ago before it was removed from the cluster following the steps indicated in the Queue Manager Clusters manual. The server housing the queue manager has long been removed from the network. But it is still displayed on MQ Explorer as, I think, the cluster still thinks that it is part of the cluster. It cannot even be made hidden on the Explorer as there is not connection to the qmgr. I cannot remove it from the cluster as it does not exist any more. I have just issued on the full repository: RESET CLUSTER(MYCLUSTER) QMNAME(QM1) ACTION(FORCEREMOVE) Is there anything else I can/should do to get rid of all references to QM1? Is QM1 going to keep showing on the MQ Explorer forever? 2- When I look at the clusters on the MQ Explorer on the machine housing the full repository, I see the same cluster displayed twice. Why? I can hide one of them from the display but I am wondering why it shows twice in the first place. 3-If I remove a member from a cluster gracefully (meaning, following the steps mentioned in the Cluster manual and not delete the queue manager afterwards, it won t try to rejoin the cluster after 90 days as it was not removed forcibly. Correct? Will it stay in the MQ Explorer display for 90 days, and then go away completely (from the display)? Thank you, Ruzi Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: List Serv Archive
You can try the link at the bottom of every email - http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Also the following link seems to work - http://www.mail-archive.com/mqseries%40akh-wien.ac.at/index.html though it doesn't seem to be quite as up to date. Regrds John. -Original Message- From: Wood, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2003 13:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: List Serv Archive Is there a published updated link available for the listserv search? Dan L Wood AIT - Enterprise Application Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED] 319-896-6985 -Original Message- From: Kamal, Ahmed (ITD) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: List Serv Archive Can anybody send me the URL for List Serv Archive. Earlier I had http://messageq.ebizq.net/vienna/ . It does not seem to work now. Thanks Ahmed Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive ** Click here to visit the Argos home page http://www.argos.co.uk The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be privileged and confidential, and is intended exclusively for the addressee. The views expressed may not be official policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the intended addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution, dissemination or use of this communication is not authorised. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender by using your reply facility in your e-mail software. All messages sent and received by Argos Ltd are monitored for virus, high risk file extensions, and inappropriate content. As a result users should be aware that mail maybe accessed. ** Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
Can they read a manual? -Original Message- From: JoE JK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
What is the standard UID/GID for mqm on HP-UX
Apparently you can assign any User Id and Group Id to mqm. In the past we have picked 102 for each. This number basically was picked out of the air. Now that we are beginning our upgrade to WebSphere MQ v5.3 for HP-UX 11i, we decided to find out if there is an offically defined number to assign mqm. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i
Don- We have 5.2 running on HP 11i and didn't see any issues until the HP Cumulative Patch Bundle June 2003 was loaded. Once loaded, the symptoms we encountered consisted mainly of the inability for MQ Series to start a receiver channel. All other MQ Series functions seemed to work fine and a manual start of runmqlsr did allow a receiver channel to start. The problem occurred when inetd is configured to start amqcrsta which in turns starts runmqchl via /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services. The fix ended up being a patch from HP. The description from the System Administrator for the box in question is listed below. Hope this helps! The HP server was being updated with the HP Cumulative Patch Bundle June 2003. This bundle consists of GOLDQPK11i (which contains GOLDBASE11i and GOLDAPPLS11i) and HWEnable11i. The /usr/lib/libc.2 library was updated and caused the CA-7 Agent to fail. Initially; workaround was implemented by relinking libc.2 library to /usr/lib/pa11_32/libc.2. This workaround fixed CA-7 problem and made the MQSeries appear to be functional on the HP agent server. When it was discovered MQSeries was having problems connecting between the host AIX machine and HP agent machine; the workaround was backed off, CA-7 patch QO31829 applied, kernel rebuilt with CA RebuildUX utility, and server rebooted. This procedure appears to have fixed the problem. Reference HP DocID: UCMDSKBRC00012513 Updated : 5/27/03 Pid received a SIGSEGV for stack growth failure. CA patch info: http://support.ca.com/techbases/tng/tngem-unix.html; Chad Thomas, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 08/19/2003 02:01 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Is anyone running MQ 5.2 on HPUX 111. I've currently got it running on HPUX11, but the system admin wants to upgrade to HPUX11I. Has anyone done this? Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: MQGET Question
Will, Thanks for the reply. I have tried this very thing, but I get a type mismatch error because md.MsgID and md.CorrelID are defined as binary arrays. That's the whole crux of my problem, figuring out how to store and retrieve these two fields. Any suggestions? Bill -Original Message- From: WR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQGET Question At 10:36 AM Tuesday 8/19/2003, Meek, Bill wrote: Can someone provide me some sample VB code of how to get a specific message by using the MsgID or CorrelID field? Use the MsgID or CorrelID properties on the Message Descriptor object to set the value you want to select on. You may want to save the Message ID from an outgoing message to use for selecting a returning Correlation ID as in the following code fragments: Global SavedMsgID As String ' Store the Message ID you want to select on in SavedMsgID GetMsgDesc.CorrelId = SavedMsgID MQGET QMConnHandle, IQhandle, GetMsgDesc, GetMsgOpts, BuffLen, GetBuffer, ActualMsgLength, CompletionCode, Reason Hope this helps! -Will Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i
Thanks Chad, that's exactly the kind of information I was looking for. What CSD level is your MQ installation at? Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chad P. Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i Don- We have 5.2 running on HP 11i and didn't see any issues until the HP Cumulative Patch Bundle June 2003 was loaded. Once loaded, the symptoms we encountered consisted mainly of the inability for MQ Series to start a receiver channel. All other MQ Series functions seemed to work fine and a manual start of runmqlsr did allow a receiver channel to start. The problem occurred when inetd is configured to start amqcrsta which in turns starts runmqchl via /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services. The fix ended up being a patch from HP. The description from the System Administrator for the box in question is listed below. Hope this helps! The HP server was being updated with the HP Cumulative Patch Bundle June 2003. This bundle consists of GOLDQPK11i (which contains GOLDBASE11i and GOLDAPPLS11i) and HWEnable11i. The /usr/lib/libc.2 library was updated and caused the CA-7 Agent to fail. Initially; workaround was implemented by relinking libc.2 library to /usr/lib/pa11_32/libc.2. This workaround fixed CA-7 problem and made the MQSeries appear to be functional on the HP agent server. When it was discovered MQSeries was having problems connecting between the host AIX machine and HP agent machine; the workaround was backed off, CA-7 patch QO31829 applied, kernel rebuilt with CA RebuildUX utility, and server rebooted. This procedure appears to have fixed the problem. Reference HP DocID: UCMDSKBRC00012513 Updated : 5/27/03 Pid received a SIGSEGV for stack growth failure. CA patch info: http://support.ca.com/techbases/tng/tngem-unix.html; Chad Thomas, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 08/19/2003 02:01 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Is anyone running MQ 5.2 on HPUX 111. I've currently got it running on HPUX11, but the system admin wants to upgrade to HPUX11I. Has anyone done this? Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix Enterprise Architect Capitalware Inc. Quoting JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i
MQ 5.2 CSD04 Thomas, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 08/20/2003 09:59 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Thanks Chad, that's exactly the kind of information I was looking for. What CSD level is your MQ installation at? Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chad P. Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i Don- We have 5.2 running on HP 11i and didn't see any issues until the HP Cumulative Patch Bundle June 2003 was loaded. Once loaded, the symptoms we encountered consisted mainly of the inability for MQ Series to start a receiver channel. All other MQ Series functions seemed to work fine and a manual start of runmqlsr did allow a receiver channel to start. The problem occurred when inetd is configured to start amqcrsta which in turns starts runmqchl via /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services. The fix ended up being a patch from HP. The description from the System Administrator for the box in question is listed below. Hope this helps! The HP server was being updated with the HP Cumulative Patch Bundle June 2003. This bundle consists of GOLDQPK11i (which contains GOLDBASE11i and GOLDAPPLS11i) and HWEnable11i. The /usr/lib/libc.2 library was updated and caused the CA-7 Agent to fail. Initially; workaround was implemented by relinking libc.2 library to /usr/lib/pa11_32/libc.2. This workaround fixed CA-7 problem and made the MQSeries appear to be functional on the HP agent server. When it was discovered MQSeries was having problems connecting between the host AIX machine and HP agent machine; the workaround was backed off, CA-7 patch QO31829 applied, kernel rebuilt with CA RebuildUX utility, and server rebooted. This procedure appears to have fixed the problem. Reference HP DocID: UCMDSKBRC00012513 Updated : 5/27/03 Pid received a SIGSEGV for stack growth failure. CA patch info: http://support.ca.com/techbases/tng/tngem-unix.html; Chad Thomas, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: MQ 5.2 on HPUX 11i List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 08/19/2003 02:01 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Is anyone running MQ 5.2 on HPUX 111. I've currently got it running on HPUX11, but the system admin wants to upgrade to HPUX11I. Has anyone done this? Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
Title: RE: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix Enterprise Architect Capitalware Inc. Quoting JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
Hi, Joe's original question was about interviewing people with less than 2 years of experience but who have the WMQ Specialist certificate. Quote: With those certification, are they really can perform? I read his question as, he is looking for someone capable, i.e. intermediate level not junior or trainee. Hence when talking technical details with a intermediate (or senior) level person, an hour will fly right by. Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. Quoting Benjamin Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix Enterprise Architect Capitalware Inc. Quoting JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
The certifications just mean that somebody had enough time on their hands to get away from work and take them. They are additionally required by IBM to get a contract with their AIM service group. There are people who walk on water and don't have the certs...then there are people with certs who are clueless. ASK...ASKASKquestions. Problem here is with all the off-shore outsourcing you have to ask your question in another language and cannot understand the answer when you do get one. Funny thing, clients want people that walk on water and want to pay rates of people who cannot swim. bee-oh-dubble-bee-dubble-egh From: Benjamin Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:50:37 -0400 Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix Enterprise Architect Capitalware Inc. Quoting JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive _ bMSN 8:/b Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
Hi, Actually we already have ppl from a well known vendor + experienced to help with the project. Another candidate is required to help our team with other concurrent project. We got a lot of response from those offshore software co with resumes as I mentioned earlier. It just happened some of the candidates had the certification with less exp and some w/o cert but 2 years exp. After talked to them, those with exps are more convincing and knows what we're talking about(our requirements). I probably would go for this guy. Many thanks for valuable input. Joe, --- Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Joe's original question was about interviewing people with less than 2 years of experience but who have the WMQ Specialist certificate. Quote: With those certification, are they really can perform? I read his question as, he is looking for someone capable, i.e. intermediate level not junior or trainee. Hence when talking technical details with a intermediate (or senior) level person, an hour will fly right by. Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. Quoting Benjamin Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix Enterprise Architect Capitalware Inc. Quoting JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
AH. More US tax dollars and a job down the drain. I'm sure there was no one qualified in the US to fit the position!!! (Soon that actually may be a true statement). Some KID found out what I did for a living and asked me the other day at a Staten Island Yankees ball game if he should go to college to take up computers. He said he really liked them. I told him it's becoming a dead field and should steer clear of it if he wanted to financially get anywhere in the future. From: JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:03:32 -0700 Hi, Actually we already have ppl from a well known vendor + experienced to help with the project. Another candidate is required to help our team with other concurrent project. We got a lot of response from those offshore software co with resumes as I mentioned earlier. It just happened some of the candidates had the certification with less exp and some w/o cert but 2 years exp. After talked to them, those with exps are more convincing and knows what we're talking about(our requirements). I probably would go for this guy. Many thanks for valuable input. Joe, --- Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Joe's original question was about interviewing people with less than 2 years of experience but who have the WMQ Specialist certificate. Quote: With those certification, are they really can perform? I read his question as, he is looking for someone capable, i.e. intermediate level not junior or trainee. Hence when talking technical details with a intermediate (or senior) level person, an hour will fly right by. Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. Quoting Benjamin Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix Enterprise Architect Capitalware Inc. Quoting JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? Thanks, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
It is always a smart move to outsource your intellectural capital. That way we can become the service ecomony we strive for. I like how we offer scholarships to non-taxpayers while raising class fees on the Tax paying citizen in out great institutions of higher learning but heck we have great sports teams. AH. More US tax dollars and a job down the drain. I'm sure there was no one qualified in the US to fit the position!!! (Soon that actually may be a true statement). Some KID found out what I did for a living and asked me the other day at a Staten Island Yankees ball game if he should go to college to take up computers. He said he really liked them. I told him it's becoming a dead field and should steer clear of it if he wanted to financially get anywhere in the future. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: MQGET Question
CorrelID and MsgID are defined as MQBYTE24. Ruzi --- Meek, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, Thanks for the reply. I have tried this very thing, but I get a type mismatch error because md.MsgID and md.CorrelID are defined as binary arrays. That's the whole crux of my problem, figuring out how to store and retrieve these two fields. Any suggestions? Bill -Original Message- From: WR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQGET Question At 10:36 AM Tuesday 8/19/2003, Meek, Bill wrote: Can someone provide me some sample VB code of how to get a specific message by using the MsgID or CorrelID field? Use the MsgID or CorrelID properties on the Message Descriptor object to set the value you want to select on. You may want to save the Message ID from an outgoing message to use for selecting a returning Correlation ID as in the following code fragments: Global SavedMsgID As String ' Store the Message ID you want to select on in SavedMsgID GetMsgDesc.CorrelId = SavedMsgID MQGET QMConnHandle, IQhandle, GetMsgDesc, GetMsgOpts, BuffLen, GetBuffer, ActualMsgLength, CompletionCode, Reason Hope this helps! -Will Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: MQGET Question
Yes, I know. So how do I save these values off for use later? Currently I'm doing this ... Dim i as Integer Dim bytLastMsgID as MQBYTE24 For i = 0 To 23: bytLastMsgID.MQByte(i) = md.MsgID.MQByte(i): Next Is that the best way? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Ruzi R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQGET Question CorrelID and MsgID are defined as MQBYTE24. Ruzi --- Meek, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, Thanks for the reply. I have tried this very thing, but I get a type mismatch error because md.MsgID and md.CorrelID are defined as binary arrays. That's the whole crux of my problem, figuring out how to store and retrieve these two fields. Any suggestions? Bill -Original Message- From: WR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQGET Question At 10:36 AM Tuesday 8/19/2003, Meek, Bill wrote: Can someone provide me some sample VB code of how to get a specific message by using the MsgID or CorrelID field? Use the MsgID or CorrelID properties on the Message Descriptor object to set the value you want to select on. You may want to save the Message ID from an outgoing message to use for selecting a returning Correlation ID as in the following code fragments: Global SavedMsgID As String ' Store the Message ID you want to select on in SavedMsgID GetMsgDesc.CorrelId = SavedMsgID MQGET QMConnHandle, IQhandle, GetMsgDesc, GetMsgOpts, BuffLen, GetBuffer, ActualMsgLength, CompletionCode, Reason Hope this helps! -Will Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Some cluster problems/questions
1 - depends on mq version. as far as i remember a remove by qmid was added by mq 5.3, so if you are at 5.2 remove by qmgr name is the only option. from my experience removing a non existing qmgr from a cluster can really be a pain, and i also remembered that it was not always possible (again, this may depend on the mq version). so good luck. 2. you can not see a cluster twice, you can see a clusterqmgr twice. what exactly do you see? can you copy/paste the screen? 3. if you remove a qmgr from the cluster as described in the manual, then you also delete the cluster sender and receiver channel. so the qmgr is no longer able to join the cluster (at least he should not try to do so). you should not see the removed qmgr in the cluster any more, if you do, it is not (totally) removed. whats your mq version? regards, stefan shailesh kumar wrote: 1)) To remove it completely from the cluster issue the following command on the repository queue manager and from wherever else you want to remove. RESET CLUSTER(MYCLUSTER) QMID(string) ACTION( FORCEREMOVE ) You can Get the QMID using the command DISPLAY CLUSQMGR(MYCLUSTER) ALL This will display the QManager ID with which it is recognized in the cluster internally. 2)) I don't know this but let me know when you get the answer. 3)) MQExplorer is just a window to your MQ Setup. So whatever is the results from the RUNMQSC command, same should be the behavior with the MQExplorer. - Original Message - From: "Ruzi R" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:33 AM Subject: Some cluster problems/questions I would very much appreciate your responses to the following questions. I am gathering this info to help me with the major clustering work that I would be doing soon. 1- QM1 was a member of the cluster, and as it was not needed any longer, it was deleted by someone (not me, not me : )!) a long time ago before it was removed from the cluster following the steps indicated in the Queue Manager Clusters manual. The server housing the queue manager has long been removed from the network. But it is still displayed on MQ Explorer as, I think, the cluster still thinks that it is part of the cluster. It cannot even be made hidden on the Explorer as there is not connection to the qmgr. I cannot remove it from the cluster as it does not exist any more. I have just issued on the full repository: RESET CLUSTER(MYCLUSTER) QMNAME(QM1) ACTION(FORCEREMOVE) Is there anything else I can/should do to get rid of all references to QM1? Is QM1 going to keep showing on the MQ Explorer forever? 2- When I look at the clusters on the MQ Explorer on the machine housing the full repository, I see the same cluster displayed twice. Why? I can hide one of them from the display but I am wondering why it shows twice in the first place. 3-If I remove a member from a cluster gracefully (meaning, following the steps mentioned in the Cluster manual and not delete the queue manager afterwards, it won t try to rejoin the cluster after 90 days as it was not removed forcibly. Correct? Will it stay in the MQ Explorer display for 90 days, and then go away completely (from the display)? Thank you, Ruzi Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Cannot Uninstall MQ 5.2.1 from Windows2000
I am trying to upgrade to 5.3 on a Windows 2000 server, and cannot because I cannot get rid of the old version. If I go to Control Panel...Add/Remove Programs and select MQSeries, the uninstall procedure begins, but then an error box gets thrown up saying it cannot find the MQSeries.msi file. So I instead went straight to the 5.3 Install procedure, which threw me into Upgrade mode. I clicked install, and it started to work, but again, the error came up saying it could not find MQSeries.msi, and the installation ended on me. I cannot find MQSeries.msi anywhere on this server. I tried to uninstall MA88 from Add/ Remove programs, and got the error saying it could not find the IBM MQSeries classes for Java and Java Message Service.msi file. And then the uninstall ended on me. I cannot find this .msi file anywhere either. I copied over the entire MA88 Install directory to a temp folder on this machine, found the IBM MQSeries classes for Java and Java Message Service.msi file, and then tried the MA88 uninstall again. This time when the error came up saying it could not find the file, I manually pointed it to the temp folder, and it worked. MA88 is uninstalled on this server. So I tried the same trick for base MQ. I copied over the entire Install CD for 5.2.1, and located the MQSeries.msi file. I tried uninstalling from Add/ Remove programs again, and then manually pointed the uninstall procedure to the temp folder. No luck. The uninstall ends with a Fatal Error. I tried upgrading to 5.3. Fatal error encountered during the upgrade, presumably where 5.2.1 is trying to be uninstalled. I cannot get rid of 5.2.1 on this server! I tried removing CSD05, and that worked, but still the same problem with base 5.2.1. Thankfully, I can get MQ 5.2.1 running again, so the customer is OK, but I can't upgrade this guy. We suspect this is related to an automated failed SP3 install for WIN2000 earlier in the week. It screwed up the ability to open MQExplorer or MQServices from the start menu. We thought that is all it did. Looks like it botched up some other stuff. Below is a quote from the Sys Admin for the server explaining THAT problem. Maybe it is related??? Quote I'd like to update you to the issues that have risen on the concentrators since we began rolling out the MS security patch and W2K service pack 3. As you are aware we rolled both SP3 and MS03-026 to the CMS DEV and CTST concentrators on 8/5 and 8/7 respectively without any issues, the same was true for MQIDEV01 and MQIDEV02. We use a tool called Update Expert to do the scheduling of this type of maintenance, it was used for the initial machines as well as machines patched since Monday night. Now to the issues. Since Monday night the W2K service pack installs have failed through Update Expert while the patch on the other hand hasn't, this has lead to some shortcuts which are fired off upon logon to become corrupted. An indication of this problem would be a pop up message indicating that the path to install the product can't be found. The product(s) are in fact running, MQ Series and NAV are not affected . End Quote Peter Potkay MQSeries Specialist The Hartford Financial Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] x77906 IBM MQSeries Certified This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete this communication and destroy all copies. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Initiation Queue
Hi I am new to MQ Series and have a question concerning initiation queues. i have set up 2 local queues that are defined for queue manager X. when a message arrives in q1 trigger a process to submit a JCL A. when a message arrives in q2 trigger a process to submit a JCL B. My question is do i have to define a initiation queue for each process or can i define just one initiation queue for both processes? which is the better method? thanks in advance. Brent Ireland CAE Inc. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
MSGID Char conversion
I have an extracted MSGID in 48 byte character format. I want to place it back in the MQMD_MSGID field. Can anybody supply the code statement??? stuck bobbee _ bGet MSN 8/b and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Initiation Queue
Hi Brent, You should almost certainly have only one initq in this situation. The difference between the actions for different queues can be controlled by the content of the TRIGDATA, the PROCESS, and the content of the PROCESS. One of the objectives of having triggering is to reduce the number of long running processes which just sit around waiting for work. Rather than having one process per application queue, you trigger all of the application queues into a single trigger queue, and then have just one long running process (the trigger monitor). You would need separate initq's if the fundamental action for the two queues was different (ie one triggered a batch job, and the other triggered a CICS transaction). The basic philosphy at my site is to have one trigger monitor (and therefore one initq) per environment. This means 1 for each CICS, one for each IMS, one for batch on each MVS LPAR. You may find that you need more in order to control concurrency and manage your throughput, but you can't get away with less (except by not using triggering). BTW, if you are new to triggering, you should start with an idea that trigger(first) is most commonly the right solution. Trigger(depth) can have some specific uses (but watch out because it disables triggering when it fires, and your application is required to reset the trigger state) and Trigger(every) is quite possibly a design mistake by IBM. Trigger(every) has some dangerous properties, especially in a restart situation, where only one trigger message is generated, not one per message on the queue, so if you design your application with an expectation of trigger(every) and it only processes a single message per call, you can get stuck with messages on the queue not getting processed after a restart when persistent messages are in the queue at the shutdown or failure. Regards, Neil Casey. |-+ | | Brent Ireland| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by: MQSeries| | | List | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | n.AC.AT | | || | || | | 21/08/2003 07:32 | | | Please respond to| | | MQSeries List| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Initiation Queue | --| Hi I am new to MQ Series and have a question concerning initiation queues. i have set up 2 local queues that are defined for queue manager X. when a message arrives in q1 trigger a process to submit a JCL A. when a message arrives in q2 trigger a process to submit a JCL B. My question is do i have to define a initiation queue for each process or can i define just one initiation queue for both processes? which is the better method? thanks in advance. Brent Ireland CAE Inc. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
dont worry, i'm not from US. :) --- Robert Broderick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AH. More US tax dollars and a job down the drain. I'm sure there was no one qualified in the US to fit the position!!! (Soon that actually may be a true statement). Some KID found out what I did for a living and asked me the other day at a Staten Island Yankees ball game if he should go to college to take up computers. He said he really liked them. I told him it's becoming a dead field and should steer clear of it if he wanted to financially get anywhere in the future. From: JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:03:32 -0700 Hi, Actually we already have ppl from a well known vendor + experienced to help with the project. Another candidate is required to help our team with other concurrent project. We got a lot of response from those offshore software co with resumes as I mentioned earlier. It just happened some of the candidates had the certification with less exp and some w/o cert but 2 years exp. After talked to them, those with exps are more convincing and knows what we're talking about(our requirements). I probably would go for this guy. Many thanks for valuable input. Joe, --- Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Joe's original question was about interviewing people with less than 2 years of experience but who have the WMQ Specialist certificate. Quote: With those certification, are they really can perform? I read his question as, he is looking for someone capable, i.e. intermediate level not junior or trainee. Hence when talking technical details with a intermediate (or senior) level person, an hour will fly right by. Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. Quoting Benjamin Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix Enterprise Architect Capitalware Inc. Quoting JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had to interview few candidates for our projects and some of them claimed to be certified mqsi specialist,certified mqseries specialist but less 2 years experienced on those skills and only had 1 projects involved so far. With those certification, are they really can perform? Any comments? === message truncated === __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder -
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
and I doubt your name is joe JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .COMcc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments List [EMAIL PROTECTED] N.AC.AT 08/20/2003 05:22 PM Please respond to MQSeries List dont worry, i'm not from US. :) --- Robert Broderick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AH. More US tax dollars and a job down the drain. I'm sure there was no one qualified in the US to fit the position!!! (Soon that actually may be a true statement). Some KID found out what I did for a living and asked me the other day at a Staten Island Yankees ball game if he should go to college to take up computers. He said he really liked them. I told him it's becoming a dead field and should steer clear of it if he wanted to financially get anywhere in the future. From: JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:03:32 -0700 Hi, Actually we already have ppl from a well known vendor + experienced to help with the project. Another candidate is required to help our team with other concurrent project. We got a lot of response from those offshore software co with resumes as I mentioned earlier. It just happened some of the candidates had the certification with less exp and some w/o cert but 2 years exp. After talked to them, those with exps are more convincing and knows what we're talking about(our requirements). I probably would go for this guy. Many thanks for valuable input. Joe, --- Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Joe's original question was about interviewing people with less than 2 years of experience but who have the WMQ Specialist certificate. Quote: With those certification, are they really can perform? I read his question as, he is looking for someone capable, i.e. intermediate level not junior or trainee. Hence when talking technical details with a intermediate (or senior) level person, an hour will fly right by. Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. Quoting Benjamin Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from ReviewNet or someone else but it has to be controlled so that their buddy doesn t write the exam for them. grin Note: I do have all 3 WMQ certifications, so I am not disputing their value but you should remember it is only a piece of paper. It represents a snap-shoot of a person s knowledge at a specific point in time. Well, that s my two cents worth. Regards, Roger Lacroix
Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments
basically i'm from Asia. they call me joe(not the american 'joe';). we're also looking for ppl from offshore to help us in the ongoing project apart from the reputable vendor we've engaged earlier (ibm,accenture etc). regards. --- Randy J Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and I doubt your name is joe JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .COMcc: Sent by: MQSeries Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments List [EMAIL PROTECTED] N.AC.AT 08/20/2003 05:22 PM Please respond to MQSeries List dont worry, i'm not from US. :) --- Robert Broderick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AH. More US tax dollars and a job down the drain. I'm sure there was no one qualified in the US to fit the position!!! (Soon that actually may be a true statement). Some KID found out what I did for a living and asked me the other day at a Staten Island Yankees ball game if he should go to college to take up computers. He said he really liked them. I told him it's becoming a dead field and should steer clear of it if he wanted to financially get anywhere in the future. From: JoE JK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:03:32 -0700 Hi, Actually we already have ppl from a well known vendor + experienced to help with the project. Another candidate is required to help our team with other concurrent project. We got a lot of response from those offshore software co with resumes as I mentioned earlier. It just happened some of the candidates had the certification with less exp and some w/o cert but 2 years exp. After talked to them, those with exps are more convincing and knows what we're talking about(our requirements). I probably would go for this guy. Many thanks for valuable input. Joe, --- Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Joe's original question was about interviewing people with less than 2 years of experience but who have the WMQ Specialist certificate. Quote: With those certification, are they really can perform? I read his question as, he is looking for someone capable, i.e. intermediate level not junior or trainee. Hence when talking technical details with a intermediate (or senior) level person, an hour will fly right by. Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. Quoting Benjamin Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well,..., Roger, don't be too harsh to the junior MQers. Everyone deserve a chance to do his /her best to excel. We were all junior MQers not many years ago. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Are you serious? this should be for someone with your lengths of experience. The most important is that the candidate have true understanding of the fundamental ideas and structure of the middleware, and possesses the enthusiasm to learn, to try, and enjoy it. The technical details we now know can quickly become obsolate. Remember, the knowledge we possess today can turn into obstacle for progress tomorrow if we love it too much. cheers, Benjamin Zhou State Street Corp. -Original Message- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certified candidates but 2 years exp - comments Hi, Certification is a great thing but should be taken with a grain of salt. (I have ever noticed the number of people who have requested the certification questions on the ListServer or www.mqseries.net ?) I personally assign a value of 2-3 months of equivalent work experience for a certificate (MQSeries, Java, or whatever). i.e. If someone says they have been doing MQAdmin work for 6 months and they have the WMQ Specialist certificate then I go with a total 9 months work experience. This may be harsh but I have met people with the WMQ Specialists certificate but cannot resolve a channel sequence number error. I prefer to have the candidate go through an in-depth technical interview of at least 1 hour on the on the subject matter. Or have the candidate do a technical exam from
V5.3 on OpenVMS Alpha???
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