Re: Receiver Channel - Paused Status

2004-07-20 Thread Simon Wiltshire
Yes we have had this problem when the receiving queue managers destination
queue and DLQ queue are full.





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Hi all,
   I am looking for some help from the list, we had a situation on
MQ/Unix(MQ 5.3) where our receiver channel was in a 'paused' state, we
tried to stop, reset and restart with no success, it reverted back to
'paused' status.

Does anyone know why a receiver channel would remain in this paused status
when the messages continue to received and forwarded to their destinations.

We have verified they are not going to the DLQ

Appreciate your comments

Stewart









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Re: Receiver Channel - Paused Status

2004-07-20 Thread Herd, Stewart
Thanks for the replies, so how did you get your receiver channel back into
running status, ours magically reverted itself.

Stewart

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   I am looking for some help from the list, we had a situation on
MQ/Unix(MQ 5.3) where our receiver channel was in a 'paused' state, we tried
to stop, reset and restart with no success, it reverted back to 'paused'
status.

Does anyone know why a receiver channel would remain in this paused status
when the messages continue to received and forwarded to their destinations.

We have verified they are not going to the DLQ

Appreciate your comments

Stewart









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Re: Receiver Channel - Paused Status

2004-07-20 Thread Simon Wiltshire
I think we just increased the queue depths and stopped/started the
channels, did the error logs give you any indication as to why it was
paused?



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Stewart

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Hi all,
   I am looking for some help from the list, we had a situation on
MQ/Unix(MQ 5.3) where our receiver channel was in a 'paused' state, we
tried
to stop, reset and restart with no success, it reverted back to 'paused'
status.

Does anyone know why a receiver channel would remain in this paused status
when the messages continue to received and forwarded to their destinations.

We have verified they are not going to the DLQ

Appreciate your comments

Stewart









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Re: Receiver Channel - Paused Status

2004-07-20 Thread Herd, Stewart
We tried to stop, reset and start the channels but receiver channel stayed
in 'paused' state..the error logs did not give much information and
there are so many possible destination queues to check for QDEPTH that is
was a needle in a haystack, sorry I cant provide more detail but thanks to
all who replied

Stewart

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I think we just increased the queue depths and stopped/started the channels,
did the error logs give you any indication as to why it was paused?




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Stewart

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I believe I've seen this when a queue hits maxdepth.  I could be wrong about
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Hi all,
   I am looking for some help from the list, we had a situation on
MQ/Unix(MQ 5.3) where our receiver channel was in a 'paused' state, we tried
to stop, reset and restart with no success, it reverted back to 'paused'
status.

Does anyone know why a receiver channel would remain in this paused status
when the messages continue to received and forwarded to their destinations.

We have verified they are not going to the DLQ

Appreciate your comments

Stewart









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Building 5100
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Re: Debugging Help on OS/390 Needed

2004-07-20 Thread Jim Nuckolls
I am afraid that it is not a DB2 problem. It is a problem with a
developer not understanding the concepts and rules governing a
logical unit of work in a CICS transaction.
Cheers...
Jim Nuckolls
Jim Ford wrote:
I posted a question to the list last week about help in debugging a CICS
app that's having problems. More than anything else, I was venting my
spleen. But since I posted it, I thought I'd post the cause of the problem,
now that I've found it.
The top level program in the problem transaction inserted some data into
DB2. Down in the fourth layer of called programs, a subroutine put a
message on a queue and waited for a response. The program that got the
message off the queue, in some circumstances, needed access to the data
inserted by the first program in the transaction. But that data wasn't
committed, so the two programs could be stuck in a deadlock.
Eventually the program waiting for a response would get a 2033, and abort.
At that point the getting program would get access to the DB2 data it
needed and faithfully send the reply (the reply that no one wanted any
more). The other issue was that while this was going on, more responsible
messages were backing up in the queue, leading to the general feeling of
slowness in the application.
So now the developers responsible for this mess are saying it's a DB2
problem. But I'm not a DBA, so it's not my problem any more. In the
meantime, I'm keeping several of those getting transactions running so
that if one message gets stuck it won't jam up everything.
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Re: Receiver Channel - Paused Status

2004-07-20 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
You could STOP the RCVR, alter the Message Retry parameters to 0, and then
start up the channel. The MCA would then immediately start offloading the
messages that it couldn't put to the destination queue to the DLQ as fast as
possible, where the DLH would tell you which queue was the problem.

You would then need to run your DL handler (or use MO71's move message
feature) to replay the messages to the real queue, once the original problem
has been fixed.




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We tried to stop, reset and start the channels but receiver channel stayed
in 'paused' state..the error logs did not give much information and
there are so many possible destination queues to check for QDEPTH that is
was a needle in a haystack, sorry I cant provide more detail but thanks to
all who replied

Stewart

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Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:18 AM
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Subject: Re: Receiver Channel - Paused Status


I think we just increased the queue depths and stopped/started the channels,
did the error logs give you any indication as to why it was paused?




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Thanks for the replies, so how did you get your receiver channel back into
running status, ours magically reverted itself.

Stewart

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I believe I've seen this when a queue hits maxdepth.  I could be wrong about
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Hi all,
   I am looking for some help from the list, we had a situation on
MQ/Unix(MQ 5.3) where our receiver channel was in a 'paused' state, we tried
to stop, reset and restart with no success, it reverted back to 'paused'
status.

Does anyone know why a receiver channel would remain in this paused status
when the messages continue to received and forwarded to their destinations.

We have verified they are not going to the DLQ

Appreciate your comments


Copying OAM data to a new queue manager.

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Anderson
I am duplicating a WMQ5.3 queue manager on AIX5.2. I need to capture the
authorizations on the original queue manager and write them to a file that
I can then run on the new machine to duplicate the authorizations.  I see
at least two support packs that were written to do that, but they are for
WMQ5.2.

Has anyone used them for WMQ5.3? do they work? I remember when 5.2 was
released, the way OAM data was handled changed significantly. I don't think
anything changed in 5.3, but I am not sure.

Thanks

Bill Anderson
SITA Atlanta, GA
Standard Messaging Engineering
WebSphere MQ Service Owner
770-303-3503 (office)
404-915-3190 (cell)
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Re: Copying OAM data to a new queue manager.

2004-07-20 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Check out the amqoamd command. It will take all the contents of the AUTH
queue and dump them into a setmqaut compatible script.



-Original Message-
From: Bill Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Copying OAM data to a new queue manager.


I am duplicating a WMQ5.3 queue manager on AIX5.2. I need to capture the
authorizations on the original queue manager and write them to a file that
I can then run on the new machine to duplicate the authorizations.  I see
at least two support packs that were written to do that, but they are for
WMQ5.2.

Has anyone used them for WMQ5.3? do they work? I remember when 5.2 was
released, the way OAM data was handled changed significantly. I don't think
anything changed in 5.3, but I am not sure.

Thanks

Bill Anderson
SITA Atlanta, GA
Standard Messaging Engineering
WebSphere MQ Service Owner
770-303-3503 (office)
404-915-3190 (cell)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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downloading MO71 support pac....

2004-07-20 Thread Capodicci, Dan (GE Commercial Finance)
Hi

After having read so many positive things recently about the MO71 support pac, I 
decided to download it and take a look. But of course, it is never that easy :) As I 
am trying to download it by clicking on the link, I get the license acceptance window 
which I respond to accept, then I get a Not Authorized page ?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? I 
have only done this about a million times over the years (although it has been a while 
since the last) and never had this happen. Has something changed that I missed?!? Any 
clues about what I can do to download this support pac?!?!?

Thanks
Dan

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Re: Copying OAM data to a new queue manager.

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Anderson
Thanks Peter, I was unaware it existed.





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Check out the amqoamd command. It will take all the contents of the AUTH
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Copying OAM data to a new queue manager.


I am duplicating a WMQ5.3 queue manager on AIX5.2. I need to capture the
authorizations on the original queue manager and write them to a file that
I can then run on the new machine to duplicate the authorizations.  I see
at least two support packs that were written to do that, but they are for
WMQ5.2.

Has anyone used them for WMQ5.3? do they work? I remember when 5.2 was
released, the way OAM data was handled changed significantly. I don't think
anything changed in 5.3, but I am not sure.

Thanks

Bill Anderson
SITA Atlanta, GA
Standard Messaging Engineering
WebSphere MQ Service Owner
770-303-3503 (office)
404-915-3190 (cell)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mconnect.aero/

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Re: Debugging Help on OS/390 Needed

2004-07-20 Thread Jim Ford
You know it, I know it, the DBAs know it. The developers will prbably never
get it, though.




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I am afraid that it is not a DB2 problem. It is a problem with a
developer not understanding the concepts and rules governing a
logical unit of work in a CICS transaction.

Cheers...
Jim Nuckolls

Jim Ford wrote:
 I posted a question to the list last week about help in debugging a CICS
 app that's having problems. More than anything else, I was venting my
 spleen. But since I posted it, I thought I'd post the cause of the
problem,
 now that I've found it.

 The top level program in the problem transaction inserted some data into
 DB2. Down in the fourth layer of called programs, a subroutine put a
 message on a queue and waited for a response. The program that got the
 message off the queue, in some circumstances, needed access to the data
 inserted by the first program in the transaction. But that data wasn't
 committed, so the two programs could be stuck in a deadlock.

 Eventually the program waiting for a response would get a 2033, and
abort.
 At that point the getting program would get access to the DB2 data it
 needed and faithfully send the reply (the reply that no one wanted any
 more). The other issue was that while this was going on, more responsible
 messages were backing up in the queue, leading to the general feeling of
 slowness in the application.

 So now the developers responsible for this mess are saying it's a DB2
 problem. But I'm not a DBA, so it's not my problem any more. In the
 meantime, I'm keeping several of those getting transactions running so
 that if one message gets stuck it won't jam up everything.

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Re: Copying OAM data to a new queue manager.

2004-07-20 Thread Ruzi R
Hi Bill,

I am doing exactly that right now as part of building ourD RP servers. I use:

amqoamd -m QmgrName -s  filenamedmpmqaut -m QmgrName 2 filename

The first one creates the setmqaut commands. This is all you need.The second one dumps the authority, which I don't really need, but I like the format the authority is displayed. 

Regards,

RuziBill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am duplicating a WMQ5.3 queue manager on AIX5.2. I need to capture theauthorizations on the original queue manager and write them to a file thatI can then run on the new machine to duplicate the authorizations. I seeat least two support packs that were written to do that, but they are forWMQ5.2.Has anyone used them for WMQ5.3? do they work? I remember when 5.2 wasreleased, the way OAM data was handled changed significantly. I don't thinkanything changed in 5.3, but I am not sure.ThanksBill AndersonSITA Atlanta, GAStandard Messaging EngineeringWebSphere MQ Service Owner770-303-3503 (office)404-915-3190 (cell)[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mconnect.aero/Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided inthe Listserv General Users Guide available at
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Re: Very Basic VMS questions

2004-07-20 Thread Ruzi R
Hi Dave,

Thank you so much for your help. My biggest problem was not being able to get into thecorrect directory.Turns out you do that with the command "SET DEFAULT directoryName".Looks like the MQ version is 2.2... 

Best regards,

Ruzi"Awerbuch, David (CALYON)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ruzi,

You're in luck. I am still 100% up to date on my VMS skills, with my client's applications now on Alpha after shutting down the VAXen.

1. Log files

The AMQERR01.LOG files islocated in three separate places:
 a. mqs_root:[mqm.errors]
 mqs_root:[mqm.qmgrs.$system.errors]

 mqs_root:[mqm.qmgrs.QM-NAME.errors]

Substitute the Queue Manager name for the word 'QM-NAME'. Please be careful that you either 'type' the file (command 'type/page' would paginate it for you) or that you edit the file readonly (use /readonly command line option), and be VERY, VERY careful that you do not WRITE the file back; you must quit the edit session.

2. Sample Program

The command interpreter for VMX - called DCL - allows you to create what is called a foreign symbol. A foreign symbol is the proper way to execute a program from the command line and pass it parameters.

This foreign symbol must be defined prior to its first use. You can define it in your LOGIN.COM (which is run when you login), logout, login again, and the symbol will be available for the remainder oflogin session. Or, you can create a command procedure to define the symbol.

So, for example, if the sample programs are located in SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.MQSERIES.BIN] (which is where they are on my system), you could create a small file called "define_amqsbcg.com" and code the following:

 $! define the foreign symbol for amqsbcg
 $ amqsbcg=="$ SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.MQSERIES.BIN]amqsbcg"

Then you would run this file by issuing the command '@mqbin' at the command prompt:

 VAXNODE:userid$ @define_amqsbcg

Once symbol amqsbcg has been defined the first time at each login session, you could then run it directly from the command line:

 VAXNODE:userid$ amqsbcg test.q qm1

3) WMQ Version

I have always found the best place to look is SYS$HELP. Issue this command:

 $ dir sys$help:*mq*

The list should include a file called 'mqseriesXXYY.release_notes'; XX is the major version, YY is the monitor version (XX=05, YY=01 means you are running 5.1). There may also be a series of files names 'mqseriesXXYY_ecoNN.release_notes'. NN is the ECO (CSD) number; the highest number listed is your current CSD level.

On my system here, I get 

 MQSERIES0510.RELEASE_NOTES;1 11 26-APR-2001 17:40:04.81
 MQSERIES0510_ECO02.RELEASE_NOTES;1 47  4-AUG-2003 10:28:54.65

which means I am running 5.1 CSD 2.

I hope these answers help.

Dave Awerbuch
 David Awerbuch MQSeries Specialist APC Consulting Services Inc. 
(516) 481-6440mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-From: Ruzi R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:17 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Very Basic VMS questions
Hi All,
I am very new to VMS ( VAX)(actually I just signed, as USER1,on to our VMS box for the first time). Queue manager is QM1 (and it is running, which I verified in MQExplorer).
1- How can I view the AMQERR01.LOG file? I entered the following commandand got the error indicated below:
PRESS::USER1 $ DSPMQFLS MQS_ROOT:[MQM.QMGRS.QM1.ERRORS]AMQERR01.LOG
MQSeries Display MQ Files
The queue manager is not available for use.
2- Why the sample amqs* programs are not working for me? This is what I entered on the command line and got an error shown below:
PRESS::USER1 $ amqsbcg TEST.Q QM1 
%DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling
\AMQSBCG\
3- How can I find the version of MQSeries (not WMQ)? 
Looks like I am not in the correct directory for the first 2 commands?Using my knowledge on other platforms, I played around with the MQS_ROOT:[MQM]... MQS_EXAMPLES[BIN]... etc to no avail.Can someone help, please?
Many thanks in advance,
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Trying to read message off queue by Correlid in JAVA using JMS

2004-07-20 Thread Dennis Bryngelson
I am running a Java application that reads messages from MQ 5.3 using JMS
I want to read by CorrelationID until the last message, then close
The only way I have been able to make it work is to invoke createReceiver
every time, then close it as demo'd below.
This has significant performance implications
Apparently the variable get_corl_id is set at create time and is not picked
up for the next read, so I have to create it again with the new corlid
Is anyone aware of a way to read by corlid without creating and closing the
receiver?


 qReceiver = qSession.createReceiver(myQ, get_corl_id);
try
{
receiveOne = (TextMessage)qReceiver.receive(mqWaitTime);
received = receiveOne.getText();
}..


 qReceiver.close();



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Re: Very Basic VMS questions

2004-07-20 Thread David C. Partridge



MQ 2.2 is almost anantique - perhaps you should try to auction it 
off :-)

Dave


WebSphere MQ v5.3 Pre-Requisites

2004-07-20 Thread Jeff A Tressler
Greetings

We are installing WebSphere MQ v5.3 on Windows 2000. For software
prerequisites
it requires Java 1.3 or higher. The installaion program even has a button
to install
Java. It installs Java 1.4.

Unfortunatly the installation program still fails to detect Java. We
checked and noticed
classpath was not updated, we changed this, rebooted and still the
installation program
does not recognize Java.

We have a similar problem with WBI MB (MQ Integrator) v5.0. Installation
requires
a certain patch level for Windows 2000. We have the latest which is much
higher
then requested but the installtion program does not recognize the
prerequisites are
being met.

Any ideas.

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Re: WebSphere MQ v5.3 Pre-Requisites

2004-07-20 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Verify manually that you have the correct JAVA, and then ignore the fact
that the Install package can't recognize that fact.

I always install the JVM from the MQ Install disk, reboot, and go on.



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Greetings

We are installing WebSphere MQ v5.3 on Windows 2000. For software
prerequisites
it requires Java 1.3 or higher. The installaion program even has a button
to install
Java. It installs Java 1.4.

Unfortunatly the installation program still fails to detect Java. We
checked and noticed
classpath was not updated, we changed this, rebooted and still the
installation program
does not recognize Java.

We have a similar problem with WBI MB (MQ Integrator) v5.0. Installation
requires
a certain patch level for Windows 2000. We have the latest which is much
higher
then requested but the installtion program does not recognize the
prerequisites are
being met.

Any ideas.

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Re: downloading MO71 support pac....

2004-07-20 Thread Khedr, Hossam (Genworth)
Hi Dan,
Have you tried to right click on the zip file and save target as?
Regards,
Hossam

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Subject: downloading MO71 support pac


Hi

After having read so many positive things recently about the MO71 support pac, I 
decided to download it and take a look. But of course, it is never that easy :) As I 
am trying to download it by clicking on the link, I get the license acceptance window 
which I respond to accept, then I get a Not Authorized page ?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? I 
have only done this about a million times over the years (although it has been a while 
since the last) and never had this happen. Has something changed that I missed?!? Any 
clues about what I can do to download this support pac?!?!?

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Re: Very Basic VMS questions

2004-07-20 Thread Ruzi R
Correction: 5.1 for Alpha. 

Ruzi
Ruzi R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


MQ 2.2.1.1 seems to be the latest version for Compaq VMS VAX (and Alpha) as per the link:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/websphere/mqplatforms/supported.html

Ruzi"David C. Partridge" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


MQ 2.2 is almost anantique - perhaps you should try to auction it off :-)

Dave

MQSeries version 2.1 on OS/390 64 bit

2004-07-20 Thread Doug Clark
Title: Message



Does anyone know of a problem with running
version 2.1 of MQSeries on OS/390 version 2.10 in 64 bit
mode?


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Re: Read: MQ Licensing: setmqcap

2004-07-20 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Title: Read: MQ Licensing: setmqcap



OK,
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What
if we all just start forwarding these Read messages back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? With perhaps a choice comment or
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A few
thousand of them outta get the point across.

I
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Re: Read: How do you change the vaule of MAXACTIVECHANNELS on Windows?

2004-07-20 Thread Robert Broderick
Anybody for a horse wipping for this person???

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Re: Read: MQ Licensing: setmqcap

2004-07-20 Thread Robert Broderick
I just sent a eMail to the postmaster @ HOTMAIL putting in a SPAM complaint.
Lets see how far that goes.
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Read: IMS Trigger Monitor

2004-07-20 Thread emque5
Title: Read: IMS Trigger Monitor






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Read: IMS Trigger Monitor

2004-07-20 Thread emque5
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Read: encryption messages

2004-07-20 Thread emque5
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Read: File transfer

2004-07-20 Thread emque5
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Read: File transfer

2004-07-20 Thread emque5
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