Re: MQSI CSD-6 giving MQ Begin Errors
Roll back to CSD05 - if it still works, open a pmr with IBM. --- Bharath Ram Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, We use a HA clustered system across 2 machines M1 M2 in Solaris. We were at MQSI CSD Level 2 and WMQ 5.3 CSD 6. Yesterday, we upgraded our MQSI to MQSI CSD 6. We tested using msgs that should fail for parsing, reformatting etc. But the msg did not fail, it kept retrying with the following errors: Jul 29 11:06:42 weut2 MQSeries: [ID 702911 user.error] (QM1.UAT.5CD)[14]BIP2607E : Unable to rollback an MQSeries transaction; MQBACK failed; queue manager ='QM1.UAT ', MQCC=2, MQRC=2195; message flow node 'ComIbmMQConnectionManager'. : QM1.UAT.ad00 6e44-f000--0080-8a7e099e611d: /build/S210_P/src/DataFlowEngine/ImbMqManager.cpp: 789: ImbMqManag er::threadCleanupInner: ComIbmMQConnectionManager: ComIbmMQConnectionManager Jul 29 11:06:42 weut2 MQSeries: [ID 702911 user.error] (QM1.UAT.5CD)[14]BIP2607E : Unable to rollback an MQSeries transaction; MQBACK failed; queue manager ='QM1.UAT ', MQCC=2, MQRC=2195; message flow node 'ComIbmMQConnectionManager'. : QM1.UAT.ad00 6e44-f000--0080-8a7e099e611d: /build/S210_P/src/DataFlowEngine/ImbMqManager.cpp: 789: ImbMqManag er::threadCleanupInner: ComIbmMQConnectionManager: ComIbmMQConnectionManager Also MQ Error logs show: AMQ7605: The XA resource manager DB2 XSDSN has returned an unexpected return code -6, when called for xa_rollback. EXPLANATION: WebSphere MQ received an unexpected return code when calling XA resource manager DB2 XSDSN at its xa_rollback entry point. This indicates an internal error, either within MQ or the resource manager. ACTION: Try to determine the source of the error. A trace of the failure could be used to look at the XA flows between MQ and the resource manager. MQ has allocated an RMId of 3 to this resource manager. This will be useful when isolating the flows associated with the resource manager concerned. If the error occurs on an xa_commit or xa_rollback request, the queue manager will not attempt to redeliver the commit or rollback instruction for this transaction, until after the queue manager has been restarted. The transaction indoubt is identified by the following XID of X'004D514D0024410818F52000772D4E5943474358325F4743535744325F514D312E5541540001'. If you think that the error lies within the queue manager, contact your IBM support center. Do not discard any information describing the problem until after the problem has been resolved. Following this I thought it's a recurrence of IBM PMR IC30970: GLOBALLY CO-ORDINATED FLOW INVOKING NEON PARSER CAUSE XA PROBLEMLEAVING DB INVOLVED IN A TRANSACTION LOCKOUT. Accordingly there is a recommendation to set the envt parameter MQSI_NEON_XA_ON to anything. Accordingly, I set the envt variable in MQSI user .profile as export MQSI_NEON_XA_ON=yes But still it gave me the same MQ begin errors on testng the parsing failure msgs. Has anyone else experienced this? Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks in Advance. - Bharath This e-Mail may contain proprietary and confidential information and is sent for the intended recipient(s) only. If by an addressing or transmission error this mail has been misdirected to you, you are requested to delete this mail immediately. You are also hereby notified that any use, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message, contents or its attachment other than by its intended recipient/s is strictly prohibited. Visit Us at http://www.polaris.co.in Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
MQSI CSD-6 giving MQ Begin Errors
Hi Folks, We use a HA clustered system across 2 machines M1 M2 in Solaris. We were at MQSI CSD Level 2 and WMQ 5.3 CSD 6. Yesterday, we upgraded our MQSI to MQSI CSD 6. We tested using msgs that should fail for parsing, reformatting etc. But the msg did not fail, it kept retrying with the following errors: Jul 29 11:06:42 weut2 MQSeries: [ID 702911 user.error] (QM1.UAT.5CD)[14]BIP2607E : Unable to rollback an MQSeries transaction; MQBACK failed; queue manager ='QM1.UAT ', MQCC=2, MQRC=2195; message flow node 'ComIbmMQConnectionManager'. : QM1.UAT.ad00 6e44-f000--0080-8a7e099e611d: /build/S210_P/src/DataFlowEngine/ImbMqManager.cpp: 789: ImbMqManag er::threadCleanupInner: ComIbmMQConnectionManager: ComIbmMQConnectionManager Jul 29 11:06:42 weut2 MQSeries: [ID 702911 user.error] (QM1.UAT.5CD)[14]BIP2607E : Unable to rollback an MQSeries transaction; MQBACK failed; queue manager ='QM1.UAT ', MQCC=2, MQRC=2195; message flow node 'ComIbmMQConnectionManager'. : QM1.UAT.ad00 6e44-f000--0080-8a7e099e611d: /build/S210_P/src/DataFlowEngine/ImbMqManager.cpp: 789: ImbMqManag er::threadCleanupInner: ComIbmMQConnectionManager: ComIbmMQConnectionManager Also MQ Error logs show: AMQ7605: The XA resource manager DB2 XSDSN has returned an unexpected return code -6, when called for xa_rollback. EXPLANATION: WebSphere MQ received an unexpected return code when calling XA resource manager DB2 XSDSN at its xa_rollback entry point. This indicates an internal error, either within MQ or the resource manager. ACTION: Try to determine the source of the error. A trace of the failure could be used to look at the XA flows between MQ and the resource manager. MQ has allocated an RMId of 3 to this resource manager. This will be useful when isolating the flows associated with the resource manager concerned. If the error occurs on an xa_commit or xa_rollback request, the queue manager will not attempt to redeliver the commit or rollback instruction for this transaction, until after the queue manager has been restarted. The transaction indoubt is identified by the following XID of X'004D514D0024410818F52000772D4E5943474358325F4743535744325F514D312E5541540001'. If you think that the error lies within the queue manager, contact your IBM support center. Do not discard any information describing the problem until after the problem has been resolved. Following this I thought it's a recurrence of IBM PMR IC30970: GLOBALLY CO-ORDINATED FLOW INVOKING NEON PARSER CAUSE XA PROBLEMLEAVING DB INVOLVED IN A TRANSACTION LOCKOUT. Accordingly there is a recommendation to set the envt parameter MQSI_NEON_XA_ON to anything. Accordingly, I set the envt variable in MQSI user .profile as export MQSI_NEON_XA_ON=yes But still it gave me the same MQ begin errors on testng the parsing failure msgs. Has anyone else experienced this? Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks in Advance. - Bharath This e-Mail may contain proprietary and confidential information and is sent for the intended recipient(s) only. If by an addressing or transmission error this mail has been misdirected to you, you are requested to delete this mail immediately. You are also hereby notified that any use, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message, contents or its attachment other than by its intended recipient/s is strictly prohibited. Visit Us at http://www.polaris.co.in
CSD 6
We've got WMQ 5.3 with CSD6 installed on our Windows XP machines and have hit an issue with the WebSphere MQServices. When we reboot the machine we find we lose our settings relating to Channels (Channel name) and Listeners (Protocol Type and Port number). This has happened on a number of our installations, is this a bug with CSD6? Is there a fix available for this? IC39916 IC39679
Re: CSD 6
Yep, IC39916c -- Kelly F. Hickel Senior Software Architect MQSoftware, Inc. 952.345.8677 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Donald Blake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 We've got WMQ 5.3 with CSD6 installed on our Windows XP machines and have hit an issue with the WebSphere MQServices. When we reboot the machine we find we lose our settings relating to Channels (Channel name) and Listeners (Protocol Type and Port number). This has happened on a number of our installations, is this a bug with CSD6? Is there a fix available for this? IC39916 IC39679
Re: CSD 6
Nick, Does this ensure that files in use get overwritten? If not, it sounds like it could cause problems. This option is documented in the memo.ptf that comes with the CSD. Do you think IBM would tell you to do this if it wasn't safe? Yes, you can replace in-use files, but you have to reboot your system to do that. Just think what happens when you install a Windows ServicePack. Basically you are replacing your whole OS: the system dlls, drivers, and even the kernel itself. And you are doing this while your system is running! The reason the CSD install fails is because it simply wants to avoid the reboot. I used listdlls and process explorer in the past and they are very useful, but if your environment can tolerate a few minutes outage while you reboot your server then don't waste your time trying to track down locked dlls. (Of course you should always stop your queue manager and all amq* and runmq* processes :-) Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
CSD 6
Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Windows can be a real PITA in this regard. Here's my procedure for applying maintenance... Applying the CSD can be a problem. Installation may fail with message AMQ4757, indicating that some MQ processes were still running or MQ files were in use by other processes. Resolving this issue entails discovering which processes may be guilty, and stopping them. 1. Verify that there are no MQ DLLs anywhere on the system except the directory we installed them in (usually D:\MQ\bin). VB application installers have been known copy mqm.dll and mqic32.dll to C:\WINNT\system32, where they will be used in place of the properly installed ones. If you find any, delete them, and beat up the application developers. 2. There is an MQ Services icon in the system tray at the lower right of the screen. Right click on it and select Stop if it is running, then Hide. This will stop process amqmtbrn. 3. Stop any queue managers running on the system 4. Close MQ Explorer running on the system 5. Close any user application that is using MQ. 6. Open the MQ Services application and make sure all the services are stopped and set to Manual. 7. Right click on My Computer and select Manage 8. Expand the Services and Applications at the bottom of the left panel. 9. Select Services. The right panel will list all of the sevices running on the machine. One or more of these is guilty. Suspects should be stopped and disabled. (right click and select properties). This is a list of known offenders (there may be others). Keep this list up to date for our installation. · MQ itself. This will be labeled MQSeries or IBM WebsphereMQ. (amqsvc.exe) · Any application using MQ that is implemented as a service. A vendor application might do this, and you will have to hunt it down or find out from the vendor. On PKMS, it was Manager...WMPROD, VisiBroker OSAgent - WMPROD, and several ComLink Engine · Norton Anti Virus (rtvscan.exe) · Version Control Agent (vcagent.exe) · Machine Debug Manager (mdm.exe) · Windows Management - several (WinMgmt.exe and Services.exe) · Performance Sentry (dmperfss.exe) · Performance Logs and Alert (smlogsvc.exe) 10. Reboot before using the SysInternals tools 11. At this point you want to check if you have got them all. Some tools from www.sysinternals.com have been installed in the MQAdmin\tools directory to help.. There is a README files for each utility. · Open a command line window and cd to that directory · Run listdlls dlloutput.txt This pipes the output of listdlls to file dlloutput.txt. · Run handle handleoutput.txt This pipes the output of handle to file handleoutput.txt · Run pslist pslistoutput.txt This pipes the output of pslist to file pslistoutput.txt · Open dlloutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the listdlls process) stop the process and add it to the above list. · Open handleoutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the processes like Explorer and CMD.EXE that have a handle on the MQAdmin/tools directory ) stop the process and add it to the above list. · Unfortunately, these utilities only give you the executable name and the Process ID (PID). As in dmperfss.exe pid: 904 . It is up to you to find out that this is the Service displayed as Performance Sentry. Do this by right-clicking on each service and selecting Properties. It is displayed in the dialog box. 12. Reboot the server. If you still get AMQ4757 messages, keep digging through the Services and disabling them (keep accurate records). The Sysinternals tools did not find all of the processes on PKMST. 13. Once the CSD is applied, set all the services you disabled to Automatic and reboot the server again. 14. To verify that the CSD was applied, type MQVER at a command line. 15. Restart the queue manager. 16. Test all MQ applications. Bill Beinert Systems Programming Con Edison When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! When they took the sixth amendment, I was quiet because, I was innocent. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun! Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can say (or do) nothing about it. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others. MODWN DAbE -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal
Re: CSD 6
My thanks to Bill who has come up with this checklist. It has helped me many times. Lots of hidden hassles in Windows. I had the same problem myself a few months ago, and with the help of folks on this list I developed the following checklist. Let me know if it works for you, and if there is anything that should be added to it. Bill Preventive Maintenance Fixes are available from IBM at http://www-3.ibm.com/software/integration/mqfamily/support/summary/wnt.h tml. Applying the CSD can be a problem. CSD05 applied to my workstation and to the sandbox with no problems, but it took all day to apply it to QM1. Installation would fail with message AMQ4757, indicating that some MQ processes were still running or MQ files were in use by other processes. Resolving this issue entails discovering which processes may be guilty, and stopping them. There is an MQ Services icon in the system tray at the lower right of the screen. Right click on it and select Hide. This will stop process amqmtbrn. Stop any queue managers running on the system Close MQ Explorer running on the system Close any user application that is using MQ. Open the MQ Services application and make sure all the services are stopped and set to Manual. Right click on My Computer and select Manage Expand the Services and Applications at the bottom of the left panel. Select Services. The right panel will list all of the services running on the machine. One or more of these is guilty. Suspects should be stopped and disabled. (right click and select properties). This is a list of known offenders (there may be others): - MQ itself. This will be labeled MQSeries or WebsphereMQ. - Any application using MQ that is implemented as a service. A vendor application might do this, and you will have to hunt it down or find out from the vendor. On PKMS, it was Manager...WMPROD, VisiBroker OSAgent - WMPROD, and several ComLink Engine - Norton Anti Virus - Compaq Version Control Agent - Machine Debug Manager - Windows Management (and extensions) At this point you want to check if you have got them all. Some tools from www.sysinternals.com have been installed in the MQAdmin\tools directory to help.. There is a README files for each utility. Open a command line window and cd to that directory Run listdlls dlloutputt.txt This pipes the output of listdlls to file dlloutput.txt. Run handle handleoutput.txt This pipes the output of handle to file handleoutput.txt Open dlloutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the listdlls process) stop the process and add it to the above list. Open handleoutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the processes like Explorer and CMD.EXE that have a handle on the MQAdmin/tools directory ) stop the process and add it to the above list. Reboot the server. If you still get AMQ4757 messages, keep digging through the Services and disabling them (keep accurate records). The Sysinternals tools did not find all of the processes on QM1. Once the CSD is applied, set all the services you disabled to Automatic and reboot the server again. To verify that the CSD was applied, type MQVER at a command line. Restart the queue manager -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential to National Grid and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please reply to this message and let the sender know. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Mike, this comes up so often that I wrote up a doc for my team. Below is a copy of the relevant section: The next step starts the CSD (Fix Pack) installation 21. When applying a CSD, no MQSeries dlls can be held by any programs. This step will insure that all MQSeries dlls are released. a. Go to Services and stop the IBM MQSeries Service. Wait a minute or so, and if still present after 1 minute, right click on the MQServices Icon in the Task bar to stop WebSphere MQ and again to hide the icon. Give it (amqsvc.exe) a minute to drop out of the Task Manager after hiding it. b. The services listed in Appendix A should also be stopped when trying to install the CSD. They have all been known to hold onto MQ dlls. Appendix A Windows Services That Use MQSeries Files The following is a list of services that typically run on Windows Servers at The Hartford. All have been know to interfere with MQSeries Installs / Upgrades due to the fact that they use MQSeries dlls. If MQSeries dlls are in use, MQ will not allow you to upgrade MQ. Use this as a checklist to know which Services you shut off, so that you can restore them all back to their prior state upon completion of your MQSeries work on this server. 1. BGS_SDService Manual or Automatic 2. BMC SoftwareManual or Automatic 3. CPQHostsManual or Automatic 4. Compaq EcoTools Manual or Automatic 5. Compaq Versioning Control Manual or Automatic 6. IBM MQSeriesManual or Automatic 7. IBM MQSI Broker Manual or Automatic 8. IBM MQSI Configuration Manager Manual or Automatic 9. Norton Anti Virus Manual or Automatic 10. Performance Data Log ServiceManual or Automatic 11. QPASA (all three components)Manual or Automatic 12. SMV Collector Manual or Automatic 13. Tivoli Manual or Automatic 14. Windows Management Instrumentation Manual or Automatic 15. BMC is also known to hang onto to MQ Files, but it is not a service. You may need to manually kill it using procexp.exe. BMC is not always present, so you may not want to bother looking for this unless the CSD install cries about locked files even after stopping all of the above. Use listdlls.exe to see what is holding an MQSeries file; use procexp.exe to kill it if you can't find it in Task Manager or Services. -Original Message- From: Ward, Mike S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete this communication and destroy all copies. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Mike, Not an expert here but I think you could check the task manager for any amq* tasks and stop them, this worked for me, Nick = Nick Beckson Country Manager Benelux Region. Cressida Technology Ltd. Tel: +31 (0)416 340 447 Mob: +31 (0)6 53 20 29 29 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.cressida.info -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: vrijdag 7 mei 2004 14:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Did you stop (hide) the button bar applet after using it to stop the MQSeries service? Dave -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: 07 May 2004 13:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Make MQSeries Service startup MANUAL, Reboot and hide your toolbar(AMQMTBRN process) and retry -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: 07 May 2004 02:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and T-Systems South Africa (Pty) Ltd accepts no liability therefore, except where the sender specifically states them to be those of T-Systems South Africa (Pty) Ltd. Although this message has been scanned for the possible presence of computer viruses prior to despatch, T-Systems South Africa (Pty) Ltd cannot be held responsible for any viruses or other material transmitted with, or as part of, this message. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Have a look at the following link: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0q1=amq4757uid=swg21157389loc =en_UScs=utf-8cc=uslang=en -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 06:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Mike, Here is waht we do: 1-Stop all MQ monitoring tools still running (Tivoli etc.) 2- Stop MQServices in: Start\Adminstrative Tools\Services. 3- Stop any Antivirus process 4- Install CSD 5- Start the MQServices and antivirus processes mentioned in step 1 and 2. In order to determine the MQ files in use: 1- Use the program listdlls.exe which is downloaded from: http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/listdlls.shtml 2- Put the listdlls.exe into a folder on the server: D:\temp\MQSUPPORT 3- CD into that directory from the dos prompt 4- Run listdlls.exe listdllsout.txt 5- Browse listdllsout.txt and do a search for MQ. If there is any, kill/stop that process using the MQ dll. Hope this helps. Best regards, and have a good weekend. Ruzi --- Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Bill's list is really useful. You may also get good information on the files that are in use, and restrict the installation, from the installation log. This file is located in the %TEMP% directory and its name is amqicsdn.txt. One other work around that I have adopted is RENAME the DLL files that are in use during the installation. The installer program will be angry on you for these missing DLLs, but thats OK. I have adopted this a number of times and it worked for me. The culprits that hold the installation include: amqxcsn.dll amqxcsn2.dll amqmgs.dll amqmso.dll amqmperf.dll to list a few. The installation will copy newer versions of these DLLs anyway; and then you may delete the renamed DLLs. Hope this helps. -Sudheer -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Beinert, William Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CSD 6 Windows can be a real PITA in this regard. Here's my procedure for applying maintenance... Applying the CSD can be a problem. Installation may fail with message AMQ4757, indicating that some MQ processes were still running or MQ files were in use by other processes. Resolving this issue entails discovering which processes may be guilty, and stopping them. 1. Verify that there are no MQ DLLs anywhere on the system except the directory we installed them in (usually D:\MQ\bin). VB application installers have been known copy mqm.dll and mqic32.dll to C:\WINNT\system32, where they will be used in place of the properly installed ones. If you find any, delete them, and beat up the application developers. 2. There is an MQ Services icon in the system tray at the lower right of the screen. Right click on it and select Stop if it is running, then Hide. This will stop process amqmtbrn. 3. Stop any queue managers running on the system 4. Close MQ Explorer running on the system 5. Close any user application that is using MQ. 6. Open the MQ Services application and make sure all the services are stopped and set to Manual. 7. Right click on My Computer and select Manage 8. Expand the Services and Applications at the bottom of the left panel. 9. Select Services. The right panel will list all of the sevices running on the machine. One or more of these is guilty. Suspects should be stopped and disabled. (right click and select properties). This is a list of known offenders (there may be others). Keep this list up to date for our installation. · MQ itself. This will be labeled MQSeries or IBM WebsphereMQ. (amqsvc.exe) · Any application using MQ that is implemented as a service. A vendor application might do this, and you will have to hunt it down or find out from the vendor. On PKMS, it was Manager...WMPROD, VisiBroker OSAgent - WMPROD, and several ComLink Engine · Norton Anti Virus (rtvscan.exe) · Version Control Agent (vcagent.exe) · Machine Debug Manager (mdm.exe) · Windows Management - several (WinMgmt.exe and Services.exe) · Performance Sentry (dmperfss.exe) · Performance Logs and Alert (smlogsvc.exe) 10. Reboot before using the SysInternals tools 11. At this point you want to check if you have got them all. Some tools from www.sysinternals.com have been installed in the MQAdmin\tools directory to help.. There is a README files for each utility. · Open a command line window and cd to that directory · Run listdlls dlloutput.txt This pipes the output of listdlls to file dlloutput.txt. · Run handle handleoutput.txt This pipes the output of handle to file handleoutput.txt · Run pslist pslistoutput.txt This pipes the output of pslist to file pslistoutput.txt · Open dlloutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the listdlls process) stop the process and add it to the above list. · Open handleoutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the processes like Explorer and CMD.EXE that have a handle on the MQAdmin/tools directory ) stop the process and add it to the above list. · Unfortunately, these utilities only give you the executable name and the Process ID (PID). As in dmperfss.exe pid: 904 . It is up to you to find out that this is the Service displayed as Performance Sentry. Do this by right-clicking on each service and selecting Properties. It is displayed in the dialog box. 12. Reboot the server. If you still get AMQ4757 messages, keep digging through the Services and disabling them (keep accurate records). The Sysinternals tools did not find all of the processes on PKMST. 13. Once the CSD is applied, set all the services you disabled to Automatic and reboot the server again. 14. To verify that the CSD was applied, type MQVER at a command line. 15. Restart the queue manager. 16. Test all MQ applications. Bill Beinert Systems Programming Con Edison When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! When they took the sixth
Re: CSD 6
At 05:39 AM 5/7/2004, Ward, Mike S wrote: Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. After stopping MQ, use the Windows Task Manager to stop amqmtbrn.exe (the task bar icon process) and try again... -Will Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Mike, I found that instead of playing detective, the easiest way is to force the install and then reboot the server. Just specify the MQPINUSEOK option on the command-line like this: U200202A.exe -a MQPINUSEOK=1 This way the install will run even if files are in use. HTH, Peter --- Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
You can try two things: 1. run one of those shareware programs that will report any sharing conflicts, e.g. I use a program called handleex 2. look at the install trace log and see what it's complaining about I had a similar problem, but with CSD5. I had to retry a couple of times before it finally took. Never did find out what it was complaining about though. Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: CSD 6 MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] en.AC.AT 05/07/2004 08:39 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Try this utility, it will show you all processes running on the system: http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6102,00.asp If you have Web Sphere running on the box, he uses a version of MQ as well, which might hang the machine up. -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Me too. I eventually killed any processes beginning with amq or runmq, then the installed worked OK. I first, stopped the mq services. Rick Tsujimoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .CANON.COMcc: Sent by: MQSeries List Subject: Re: CSD 6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/2004 10:16 AM Please respond to MQSeries List You can try two things: 1. run one of those shareware programs that will report any sharing conflicts, e.g. I use a program called handleex 2. look at the install trace log and see what it's complaining about I had a similar problem, but with CSD5. I had to retry a couple of times before it finally took. Never did find out what it was complaining about though. Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: CSD 6 MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] en.AC.AT 05/07/2004 08:39 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of J.P. Morgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Peter, Does this ensure that files in use get overwritten? If not, it sounds like it could cause problems. Nick -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Uranyi Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CSD 6 Mike, I found that instead of playing detective, the easiest way is to force the install and then reboot the server. Just specify the MQPINUSEOK option on the command-line like this: U200202A.exe -a MQPINUSEOK=1 This way the install will run even if files are in use. HTH, Peter --- Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry. The message is AMQ4757. Can anyone help? I can't find any MQ running except the csd. Thanks. Mike S. Ward Jr. A.V.P. Information Technology Security Service Federal Credit Union (210)476-4600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: CSD 6
Thanks very much. This helped a great deal. -Original Message- From: Beinert, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CSD 6 Windows can be a real PITA in this regard. Here's my procedure for applying maintenance... Applying the CSD can be a problem. Installation may fail with message AMQ4757, indicating that some MQ processes were still running or MQ files were in use by other processes. Resolving this issue entails discovering which processes may be guilty, and stopping them. 1. Verify that there are no MQ DLLs anywhere on the system except the directory we installed them in (usually D:\MQ\bin). VB application installers have been known copy mqm.dll and mqic32.dll to C:\WINNT\system32, where they will be used in place of the properly installed ones. If you find any, delete them, and beat up the application developers. 2. There is an MQ Services icon in the system tray at the lower right of the screen. Right click on it and select Stop if it is running, then Hide. This will stop process amqmtbrn. 3. Stop any queue managers running on the system 4. Close MQ Explorer running on the system 5. Close any user application that is using MQ. 6. Open the MQ Services application and make sure all the services are stopped and set to Manual. 7. Right click on My Computer and select Manage 8. Expand the Services and Applications at the bottom of the left panel. 9. Select Services. The right panel will list all of the sevices running on the machine. One or more of these is guilty. Suspects should be stopped and disabled. (right click and select properties). This is a list of known offenders (there may be others). Keep this list up to date for our installation. · MQ itself. This will be labeled MQSeries or IBM WebsphereMQ. (amqsvc.exe) · Any application using MQ that is implemented as a service. A vendor application might do this, and you will have to hunt it down or find out from the vendor. On PKMS, it was Manager...WMPROD, VisiBroker OSAgent - WMPROD, and several ComLink Engine · Norton Anti Virus (rtvscan.exe) · Version Control Agent (vcagent.exe) · Machine Debug Manager (mdm.exe) · Windows Management - several (WinMgmt.exe and Services.exe) · Performance Sentry (dmperfss.exe) · Performance Logs and Alert (smlogsvc.exe) 10. Reboot before using the SysInternals tools 11. At this point you want to check if you have got them all. Some tools from www.sysinternals.com have been installed in the MQAdmin\tools directory to help.. There is a README files for each utility. · Open a command line window and cd to that directory · Run listdlls dlloutput.txt This pipes the output of listdlls to file dlloutput.txt. · Run handle handleoutput.txt This pipes the output of handle to file handleoutput.txt · Run pslist pslistoutput.txt This pipes the output of pslist to file pslistoutput.txt · Open dlloutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the listdlls process) stop the process and add it to the above list. · Open handleoutput.tx and search for MQ. If you find any, (except the processes like Explorer and CMD.EXE that have a handle on the MQAdmin/tools directory ) stop the process and add it to the above list. · Unfortunately, these utilities only give you the executable name and the Process ID (PID). As in dmperfss.exe pid: 904 . It is up to you to find out that this is the Service displayed as Performance Sentry. Do this by right-clicking on each service and selecting Properties. It is displayed in the dialog box. 12. Reboot the server. If you still get AMQ4757 messages, keep digging through the Services and disabling them (keep accurate records). The Sysinternals tools did not find all of the processes on PKMST. 13. Once the CSD is applied, set all the services you disabled to Automatic and reboot the server again. 14. To verify that the CSD was applied, type MQVER at a command line. 15. Restart the queue manager. 16. Test all MQ applications. Bill Beinert Systems Programming Con Edison When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! When they took the sixth amendment, I was quiet because, I was innocent. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun! Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can say (or do) nothing about it. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others. MODWN DAbE -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CSD 6 Hi all, I am trying to apply csd 6 to a 5.3 install on windows 2000. The install waits for all MQ applications and processes to complete. Then it says checking files please wait. Then it stalls and says Websphere MQ files are in use. Stop activity and retry
