Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-29 Thread Robert Broderick
I not sure this is true in all install instances but on Windows and OS390 it
is a different install. I am not sure on the UNIX side but would bet IBM
followed the same procedure.
When installing one of the first things to be done is to verify that the
server connection and Client connection works to the QMGR on that box. You
can do this by executing the amqs... and amqs...c samples.
bobbee

From: Usha Suryadevara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:43:48 -0400
Just curious, are you guys saying that you will install an MQ server and
then you will also install an MQ client on the same machine ? I thought MQ
Server is  a super set that installs everything a client installs and a lot
more.
But yes i know for sure that you can write an application to use MQ API
(such that it uses a client connection  server connection channel combo
thus making it a client server connection) to connect to another Queue
Manager on a different machine. I am not sure if this is what you are
looking for, but thought i would drop my few cents in just in case...
Thanks
Usha
At 03:29 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
To be more precise about the answer, yes, you can run an MQ Client process
on a machine that is also running a queue manager, and have that client
access a different queue manager than the one running on the same box.
Bill
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All
I have a few questions for you in MQ .
We have a MQ server  which is going to be used in two ways .
The first one would be used for connecting the two modules of the same
application.Here Module 1 writes on to the Local Q and Module 2 reads
from the Local Q .
The second one should be used as a client . There is a second MQServer
which gets the messages from an external MQserver  (MQserver 3 ) Here we
want the first MQ server act as client to the second MQserver
Can I use a MQserver as a MQclient to connect to another MQ Server ? If
so , can i get some material on how to do the same .
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rgds
H V SHarath

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Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-29 Thread Beinert, William
It's a different install on OS/390, but a typical install on Windows installs both the 
client stubs and the client support, at least in my experience.

Bill

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I not sure this is true in all install instances but on Windows and OS390 it
is a different install. I am not sure on the UNIX side but would bet IBM
followed the same procedure.

When installing one of the first things to be done is to verify that the
server connection and Client connection works to the QMGR on that box. You
can do this by executing the amqs... and amqs...c samples.

 bobbee


From: Usha Suryadevara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:43:48 -0400


Just curious, are you guys saying that you will install an MQ server and
then you will also install an MQ client on the same machine ? I thought MQ
Server is  a super set that installs everything a client installs and a lot
more.

But yes i know for sure that you can write an application to use MQ API
(such that it uses a client connection  server connection channel combo
thus making it a client server connection) to connect to another Queue
Manager on a different machine. I am not sure if this is what you are
looking for, but thought i would drop my few cents in just in case...

Thanks
Usha

At 03:29 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
To be more precise about the answer, yes, you can run an MQ Client process
on a machine that is also running a queue manager, and have that client
access a different queue manager than the one running on the same box.

Bill
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Subject: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?


All
I have a few questions for you in MQ .
We have a MQ server  which is going to be used in two ways .
The first one would be used for connecting the two modules of the same
application.Here Module 1 writes on to the Local Q and Module 2 reads
from the Local Q .
The second one should be used as a client . There is a second MQServer
which gets the messages from an external MQserver  (MQserver 3 ) Here we
want the first MQ server act as client to the second MQserver
Can I use a MQserver as a MQclient to connect to another MQ Server ? If
so , can i get some material on how to do the same .


image0019.gif

rgds
H V SHarath




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Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-29 Thread Bullock, Rebecca (CSC)
In Unix (at least, Solaris), you can specify that both the server and client
be installed at the same time (they are options you select from a list). You
cannot install the server and then go back and install the client later.
This will work initially, but you'll have problems when you next put on a
CSD. What happens is the list of installed options is stored in a variable
as part of the package info and if you add the client later, this value is
updated to list only the client. Then when you put on the next CSD, only the
client code is updated; the result was very ugly. Although I suppose you
could save the value in the variable, add the client, and then put the
original value back. I'm not that into Solaris packages, but it sounds like
it would work. Comments anyone?

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From: Beinert, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:36 AM
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It's a different install on OS/390, but a typical install on Windows
installs both the client stubs and the client support, at least in my
experience.

Bill

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From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert
Broderick
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?


I not sure this is true in all install instances but on Windows and OS390 it
is a different install. I am not sure on the UNIX side but would bet IBM
followed the same procedure.

When installing one of the first things to be done is to verify that the
server connection and Client connection works to the QMGR on that box. You
can do this by executing the amqs... and amqs...c samples.

 bobbee


From: Usha Suryadevara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:43:48 -0400


Just curious, are you guys saying that you will install an MQ server and
then you will also install an MQ client on the same machine ? I thought MQ
Server is  a super set that installs everything a client installs and a lot
more.

But yes i know for sure that you can write an application to use MQ API
(such that it uses a client connection  server connection channel combo
thus making it a client server connection) to connect to another Queue
Manager on a different machine. I am not sure if this is what you are
looking for, but thought i would drop my few cents in just in case...

Thanks
Usha

At 03:29 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
To be more precise about the answer, yes, you can run an MQ Client process
on a machine that is also running a queue manager, and have that client
access a different queue manager than the one running on the same box.

Bill
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H V
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?


All
I have a few questions for you in MQ .
We have a MQ server  which is going to be used in two ways .
The first one would be used for connecting the two modules of the same
application.Here Module 1 writes on to the Local Q and Module 2 reads
from the Local Q .
The second one should be used as a client . There is a second MQServer
which gets the messages from an external MQserver  (MQserver 3 ) Here we
want the first MQ server act as client to the second MQserver
Can I use a MQserver as a MQclient to connect to another MQ Server ? If
so , can i get some material on how to do the same .


image0019.gif

rgds
H V SHarath




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Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-29 Thread Robert Broderick
I just installed on WINDOWS two days ago and the default install did not
install the client.

From: Beinert, William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:35:34 -0400
It's a different install on OS/390, but a typical install on Windows
installs both the client stubs and the client support, at least in my
experience.
Bill
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From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert
Broderick
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?
I not sure this is true in all install instances but on Windows and OS390
it
is a different install. I am not sure on the UNIX side but would bet IBM
followed the same procedure.
When installing one of the first things to be done is to verify that the
server connection and Client connection works to the QMGR on that box. You
can do this by executing the amqs... and amqs...c samples.
 bobbee
From: Usha Suryadevara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:43:48 -0400


Just curious, are you guys saying that you will install an MQ server and
then you will also install an MQ client on the same machine ? I thought
MQ
Server is  a super set that installs everything a client installs and a
lot
more.

But yes i know for sure that you can write an application to use MQ API
(such that it uses a client connection  server connection channel combo
thus making it a client server connection) to connect to another Queue
Manager on a different machine. I am not sure if this is what you are
looking for, but thought i would drop my few cents in just in case...

Thanks
Usha

At 03:29 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
To be more precise about the answer, yes, you can run an MQ Client
process
on a machine that is also running a queue manager, and have that client
access a different queue manager than the one running on the same box.

Bill
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Sharath
H V
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?


All
I have a few questions for you in MQ .
We have a MQ server  which is going to be used in two ways .
The first one would be used for connecting the two modules of the same
application.Here Module 1 writes on to the Local Q and Module 2 reads
from the Local Q .
The second one should be used as a client . There is a second MQServer
which gets the messages from an external MQserver  (MQserver 3 ) Here
we
want the first MQ server act as client to the second MQserver
Can I use a MQserver as a MQclient to connect to another MQ Server ? If
so , can i get some material on how to do the same .


image0019.gif

rgds
H V SHarath



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Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-28 Thread Sharath H V
Title: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?






All 

I have a few questions for you in MQ . 


We have a MQ server which is going to be used in two ways .

The first one would be used for connecting the two modules of the same application.Here Module 1 writes on to the Local Q and Module 2 reads from the Local Q .

The second one should be used as a client . There is a second MQServer which gets the messages from an external MQserver (MQserver 3 ) Here we want the first MQ server act as client to the second MQserver 

Can I use a MQserver as a MQclient to connect to another MQ Server ? If so , can i get some material on how to do the same .







rgds

H V SHarath







Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-28 Thread David C. Partridge
Its not clear at all what you are trying to do and why you think that you
need QM to act as a client.

Can you explain why you think that you want QM1 to connect as a client,
rather than having the QMs
connected using (e.g.) sender and receiver channels.

Perhaps if you described (in outline) the business problem you are trying to
solve that would
allow us to understand your thought processes.

Dave

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Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-28 Thread Nick Dilauro
Title: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?








Yes, at installation time, you can choose
to install both the client and the server. You can also later modify the
installation to include the client, but you will likely have to stop the
mqseries service. I'm referring to Windows platform. You didn't
specify your platform, but most platforms allow both the client and the server.





Nick











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MQClient?





All 
I
have a few questions for you in MQ . 

We have a MQ server which is going to be used in two ways
. 
The
first one would be used for connecting the two modules of the same
application.Here Module 1 writes on to the Local Q and Module 2 reads from the
Local Q .

The second one should be used as a client . There is a second
MQServer which gets the messages from an external MQserver (MQserver 3 )
Here we want the first MQ server act as client to the second MQserver 

Can I use a MQserver as a MQclient to connect to another MQ
Server ? If so , can i get some material on how to do the same .





rgds

H V
SHarath 








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Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-28 Thread Beinert, William
Title: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?



To be 
more precise about the answer, yes, you can run an MQ Client process on a 
machine that is also running a queue manager, and have that client access a 
different queue manager than the one running on the same 
box.

Bill

  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharath H VSent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:26 
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  MQClient?
  
  All 
  I have a few questions for 
  you in MQ . 
  We have a MQ server 
  which is going to be used in two ways . The first one would be 
  used for connecting the two modules of the same application.Here Module 1 
  writes on to the Local Q and Module 2 reads from the Local Q 
  .
  The second one should be 
  used as a client . There is a second MQServer which gets the messages from an 
  external MQserver (MQserver 3 ) Here we want the first MQ server act as 
  client to the second MQserver 
  Can I use a MQserver as a 
  MQclient to connect to another MQ Server ? If so , can i get some material on 
  how to do the same .
  
  
  rgds H V 
  SHarath 
  
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Re: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?

2004-04-28 Thread Usha Suryadevara


Just curious, are you guys saying that you will install an MQ server and
then you will also install an MQ client on the same machine ? I thought
MQ Server is a super set that installs everything a client installs
and a lot more.

But yes i know for sure that you can write an application to use MQ API
(such that it uses a client connection  server connection channel
combo thus making it a client server connection) to connect to another
Queue Manager on a different machine. I am not sure if this is what you
are looking for, but thought i would drop my few cents in just in
case...

Thanks
Usha

At 03:29 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
To
be more precise about the answer, yes, you can run an MQ Client process
on a machine that is also running a queue manager, and have that client
access a different queue manager than the one running on the same
box.

Bill


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On Behalf Of Sharath H V
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Subject: Can a MQ server act as MQClient?



All 
I have a few questions for you in MQ .
We have a MQ server which is going to be used in two ways .

The first one would be used for connecting the two modules of the
same application.Here Module 1 writes on to the Local Q and Module 2
reads from the Local Q .
The second one should be used as a client . There is a second
MQServer which gets the messages from an external MQserver
(MQserver 3 ) Here we want the first MQ server act as client to the
second MQserver
Can I use a MQserver as a MQclient to connect to another MQ Server ?
If so , can i get some material on how to do the same .






rgds 
H V SHarath 






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