Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux 9

2004-06-29 Thread Paul Clarke
David,

I spoke to one of our Linux guys and this was his response

>  there are 2 possible values you can set in LD_ASSUME_KERNEL. Both
> are supported by MQ.
>
> 2.4.19  Linuxthreads with floating stacks
> 2.2.5  Linuxthreads without floating stacks

> In order to use MQ on Red Hat 9 (or any NPTL based distribution) you
> must use one of these settings and have at least MQ CSD 5 installed.
> The LD_ASSUME_KERNEL variable must be set in the enviornment when
> executing any of the mq administration commands (crtmqm, strmqm, runmqsc
etc).
> (Note: Also if you have trouble installing MQ then try setting
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL before executing the 'rpm' installation commands)
>
> MQ applications (linked with libmqm.so or libmqm_r.so) must also set
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL to one of the values, however  client applications
> (libmqic.so or libmqic_r.so) can run without setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL.
>
> I hope this helps.

So do I,

Cheers,
P.

Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley

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> "David C. Partridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Red Hat Linux 9
>
> I know there was a discussion about this while back, and IIRC the
consensus
> was that you should set LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 to run MQ 5.3 on RHL 9.0.
>
> Is this really the right value - or should I be using
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1?
>
> The reason I ask this is that MQ 5.3 is running fine on my RHL 8 system
with
> kernel level 2.4.20 with no specific LD_ASSUME_KERNEL settings and should
> therefore be using the "floating stacks" version of LinuxThreads by
default
> (rather than the original LinuxThreads version which a 2.2.5 value would
> force).
>
> Has this changed with recent CSDs (i.e. does MQ 5.3 plus CSD?? now have
the
> fixes to work correctly with both LinuxThreads and NPTL?)?
>
> Do user applications using the QM need this setting or is it just the
queue
> manager processes?
>
> What about the IBM JDK/JRE?  Does that need this as well?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
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Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux 9

2004-06-29 Thread David C. Partridge
Thanks Paul,

I found a "Technote" that mentioned another environment variable that could
be used instead:

export AMQ_THREADMODEL_RESET=1

Is it preferable to use this e.v. rather then LD_ASSUME_KERNEL, and if so
what values are available for it and what is their impact?

Thanks again
Dave
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From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul
Clarke
Sent: 29 June 2004 15:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux 9


David,

I spoke to one of our Linux guys and this was his response

>  there are 2 possible values you can set in LD_ASSUME_KERNEL. Both
> are supported by MQ.
>
> 2.4.19  Linuxthreads with floating stacks
> 2.2.5  Linuxthreads without floating stacks

> In order to use MQ on Red Hat 9 (or any NPTL based distribution) you
> must use one of these settings and have at least MQ CSD 5 installed.
> The LD_ASSUME_KERNEL variable must be set in the enviornment when
> executing any of the mq administration commands (crtmqm, strmqm, runmqsc
etc).
> (Note: Also if you have trouble installing MQ then try setting
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL before executing the 'rpm' installation commands)
>
> MQ applications (linked with libmqm.so or libmqm_r.so) must also set
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL to one of the values, however  client applications
> (libmqic.so or libmqic_r.so) can run without setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL.
>
> I hope this helps.

So do I,

Cheers,
P.

Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley

> - Forwarded by Paul Clarke/UK/IBM on 29/06/2004 12:24 -
>
> "David C. Partridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> 29/06/2004 12:10
>
> Please respond to
> MQSeries List
>
> To
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> cc
>
> Subject
>
> Red Hat Linux 9
>
> I know there was a discussion about this while back, and IIRC the
consensus
> was that you should set LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 to run MQ 5.3 on RHL 9.0.
>
> Is this really the right value - or should I be using
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1?
>
> The reason I ask this is that MQ 5.3 is running fine on my RHL 8 system
with
> kernel level 2.4.20 with no specific LD_ASSUME_KERNEL settings and should
> therefore be using the "floating stacks" version of LinuxThreads by
default
> (rather than the original LinuxThreads version which a 2.2.5 value would
> force).
>
> Has this changed with recent CSDs (i.e. does MQ 5.3 plus CSD?? now have
the
> fixes to work correctly with both LinuxThreads and NPTL?)?
>
> Do user applications using the QM need this setting or is it just the
queue
> manager processes?
>
> What about the IBM JDK/JRE?  Does that need this as well?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in
> the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com
> Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive

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Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux 9

2004-06-30 Thread Paul Clarke
Dave,

I'm not a Linux guy and this isn't my area but looking at the code there
are no defined values for AMQ_THREADMODEL_RESET. Its mere existence is
enough. So currently you could set
AMQ_THREADMODEL_RESET=homer_simpson_for_president for the same effect.

All AMQ_THREADMODEL_RESET actually does is define LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.19
Using AMQ_THREADMODEL_RESET has the advantage that the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL
variable is only defined in MQ processes and so other applications are
unaffected.

Cheers,
P.

Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley


MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 29/06/2004 16:28:01:

> Thanks Paul,
>
> I found a "Technote" that mentioned another environment variable that
could
> be used instead:
>
> export AMQ_THREADMODEL_RESET=1
>
> Is it preferable to use this e.v. rather then LD_ASSUME_KERNEL, and if so
> what values are available for it and what is their impact?
>
> Thanks again
> Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul
> Clarke
> Sent: 29 June 2004 15:54
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux 9
>
>
> David,
>
> I spoke to one of our Linux guys and this was his response
>
> >  there are 2 possible values you can set in LD_ASSUME_KERNEL. Both
> > are supported by MQ.
> >
> > 2.4.19  Linuxthreads with floating stacks
> > 2.2.5  Linuxthreads without floating stacks
>
> > In order to use MQ on Red Hat 9 (or any NPTL based distribution) you
> > must use one of these settings and have at least MQ CSD 5 installed.
> > The LD_ASSUME_KERNEL variable must be set in the enviornment when
> > executing any of the mq administration commands (crtmqm, strmqm,
runmqsc
> etc).
> > (Note: Also if you have trouble installing MQ then try setting
> > LD_ASSUME_KERNEL before executing the 'rpm' installation commands)
> >
> > MQ applications (linked with libmqm.so or libmqm_r.so) must also set
> > LD_ASSUME_KERNEL to one of the values, however  client applications
> > (libmqic.so or libmqic_r.so) can run without setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL.
> >
> > I hope this helps.
>
> So do I,
>
> Cheers,
> P.
>
> Paul G Clarke
> WebSphere MQ Development
> IBM Hursley
>
> > - Forwarded by Paul Clarke/UK/IBM on 29/06/2004 12:24 -
> >
> > "David C. Partridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent by: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > 29/06/2004 12:10
> >
> > Please respond to
> > MQSeries List
> >
> > To
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> >
> > Red Hat Linux 9
> >
> > I know there was a discussion about this while back, and IIRC the
> consensus
> > was that you should set LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 to run MQ 5.3 on RHL
9.0.
> >
> > Is this really the right value - or should I be using
> > LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1?
> >
> > The reason I ask this is that MQ 5.3 is running fine on my RHL 8 system
> with
> > kernel level 2.4.20 with no specific LD_ASSUME_KERNEL settings and
should
> > therefore be using the "floating stacks" version of LinuxThreads by
> default
> > (rather than the original LinuxThreads version which a 2.2.5 value
would
> > force).
> >
> > Has this changed with recent CSDs (i.e. does MQ 5.3 plus CSD?? now have
> the
> > fixes to work correctly with both LinuxThreads and NPTL?)?
> >
> > Do user applications using the QM need this setting or is it just the
> queue
> > manager processes?
> >
> > What about the IBM JDK/JRE?  Does that need this as well?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided
in
> > the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com
> > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
>
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Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux 9

2004-06-30 Thread David C. Partridge
Paul,

Thanks again

Dave

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