Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA + Linux issues
Hi The true problem is the artifacts when using EXA acceleration. I'm not going to use VESA son I didn't want to waste time investigating why it detected and dropped the true monitor resolution and fall to 1024x768. As I said it was probably because no xorg.con supplied and this will be fixes setting the proper modeline in xorg.conf. This was a try when using nouveau.modeset=0 to avoid KMS. For some ATI cards, when you use radeon.modeset=0 it drops EXA and uses XAA and all is fine. You have MSEide working and your radeon card uses hardware acceleration. To make NOUVEAU working, you have to drop HW acceleration for the moment. If you are lucky and your nvidia card is working fine with nvidia propietary drivers.. then you can use it. From my experience some nvidia cards + propietary drivers = nightmare. The bug has been reported, only left to wait :) Thanks. -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA + Linux issues
What I did in the mean time. For ATI cards. Added file /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf content: options radeon modeset=0 Added to xorg.conf (or your xorg config file...) Device section: Option AccelMethod XAA in this way, I have MSEide working fine and have hardware acceleration. 3D performance is worse than using EXA but 2D is really fine. My perception is that it's faster using 2D than EXA. (XAA was the old and working acceleration method) Haven't tried if nouveau supports XAA I hope this helps other MSE users. Cheers. -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA + Linux issues
Am 21.09.2013 09:49, schrieb Julio Jiménez: What I did in the mean time. For ATI cards. Added file /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf content: options radeon modeset=0 Added to xorg.conf (or your xorg config file...) Device section: Option AccelMethod XAA in this way, I have MSEide working fine and have hardware acceleration. 3D performance is worse than using EXA but 2D is really fine. My perception is that it's faster using 2D than EXA. (XAA was the old and working acceleration method) Haven't tried if nouveau supports XAA I hope this helps other MSE users. Thanks, I'll add it to README.TXT. Martin -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA + Linux issues
Hello Ivanko, On 2013-09-20 23:05, Ivanko B wrote: Graeme, it seem that You had to switch to a large LED backlight monitor (27 inches me guess). How did You tune its backlight brightness level so that your eyes feel comfortable ? Correct, I switched from a dual 19 LCD setup to a single 27 LCD setup. I am currently using the 27 DELL U2711 IPS display, which is absolutely brilliant. I also bought the Sound Bar add-on, so I really have no clutter on my desk, and all the screen [desktop] space I need. As for brightness, I used to set it manually. During the day I have it at 50%, and at night I used to set it down to about 10%. Since then I discovered the utility app redshift [and f.lux], which is available for all platforms (Linux/FreeBSD, Windows and MacOSX). You set your Lon/Lat position, and it automatically adjusts your monitor at dusk or dawn. Redshift changes the color profile at night to give it a slight red/pink'ish tint, which might look odd for the first 20 seconds (if you did a instant switch, and not a gradual switch) - but your eyes will thank you a thousand times over! :) Redshift: http://jonls.dk/redshift/ f.lux: http://justgetflux.com/ Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA + Linux issues
On 2013-09-21 09:18, Julio Jiménez wrote: As I said it was probably because no xorg.con supplied and this will be fixes setting the proper modeline in xorg.conf. I don't specify manual modeline's in my xorg.conf - I simply specify the monitro display size, and the resolution I'm interested in. Attached is my xorg.conf if you want it as a reference. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices false Option AllowEmptyInput false EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ # FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ # FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dri Load dbe Load dri2 Load glx Load extmod Load record # Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us # Option XkbVariant dvorak Option XkbVariant dvorak-alt-intl # Option XkbVariant dvp EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse # Option Device /dev/ums1 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model DisplaySize 2560 1440 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option Rotate# str #Option fbdev # str #Option debug # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver vesa # Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller # BusID PCI:0:2:0 # Option AccelMethod sna Option AccelMethod uxa EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 2560x1440 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA + Linux issues
2013/9/21 Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk On 2013-09-21 09:18, Julio Jiménez wrote: As I said it was probably because no xorg.con supplied and this will be fixes setting the proper modeline in xorg.conf. I don't specify manual modeline's in my xorg.conf - I simply specify the monitro display size, and the resolution I'm interested in. Yes, it's another option :) BTW, I only have ATI cards around.. so I can't test it. It happened doing a quick test on a computer of a colleague. I haven't problems configuring my computers :D -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA + Linux issues
Correct, I switched from a dual 19 LCD setup to a single 27 LCD setup. I am currently using the 27 DELL U2711 IPS display, which is absolutely brilliant. == Me also had to swicth to 27 inches monitor (combo with analog+digital TV) LG 27MA53D-PZ IPS) - 1920x1080 for highly expected large 0.31mm (82 DPI) grain to move away from too small (0.26 mm = 96 DPI) LCD details. But 0.31 has been revealed to be still too small grain. And me still can't get what my eyes suffer from - too much contrast against environnment, or too much brightness (really the least workable level is appox 30%), or stroboscopic effect of PWM backlight (disappers at approx 75% wich is too high even in daylight). So, Your proposal http://justgetflux.com/; loks quite promisable. BTW, some IPS monitors (mine for instance) have BRG not RGB pixel order - which needs adjustment of subpixel antialaising. -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] About xrender and stretched bitmaps + EXA+ Linux issues
On Saturday 21/09/2013 at 14:34, Ivanko B wrote: Me also had to swicth to 27 inches monitor (combo with analog+digital TV) LG 27MA53D-PZ IPS) - 1920x1080 for highly expected large 0.31mm I was specifically looking for the higher resolution 27 displays. I couldn't find many, but glad I spotted and choose the U2711. Another well know monitory is the 27 Apple Display - but at a crazy high price. As I mentioned, mine runs at native resolution of 2560x1440, but my X11 is setup to auto-set the dpi (not the ridiculous hard-coded 96dpi that Windows loves). Thus my fonts look a descent size and easy readable, even on such high resolution. Keyboards and Monitors are two things I'll rather pay more for, and know I get quality. They greatly affect my working performance, seeing that I program many hours per day. Regards, - Graeme - -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/22/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=64545871iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
