[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
Hi, MSEide+MSEgui 3.6 has been released: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ New target: arm-linux (Raspberry Pi). MSEide runs amazingly fast on the Raspberry Pi. There is also a new project template for i386-linux -> arm-linux cross compiling and debugging. The necessary cross-compiling environment is here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcrossarm/ Please read README.TXT of the MSEide+MSEgui package. MSEide 3.6 now supports docking of design forms like any other MSEide window. There are also new versions of MSEgit and MSEspice and there is a new tool MSEtest which can be used in order to run unit tests or to compile a group of programs. https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/ Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF
On 28 Nov 2014, at 07:23, Martin Schreiber wrote:
> On Thursday 27 November 2014 21:59:02 Geoffrey Barton wrote:
>>
>> 1looking at the compiled file with 'readelf', it appears to say
>> 'softfloat'. But also VFPV3_d16, which is a hard float.
>
> The target in "crossarmdefault.prj" can be switched
> by 'Project'-'Options'-'Macros'-'Active group', see attachment.
>
>> 2how do I feed
>> compiler options? I tried -CpARMV7A in FPCOPTIONS, but this caused a make
>> error.
> Add it to 'Project'-'Options'-'Make'-'Make Options' after "${FPCOPT}" or
> change the 'Value' of 'Macros' "FPCOPT". The ABI can be set by -Caxxx
> although
> the default is EABIHF for the HF-compiler, adding -CaEABIHF makes no
> difference.
ok, thanks, tested. That works.
Change to scp is good too.
Your way of switching targets very slick.
Geoffrey
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[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console
how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? Geoffrey -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console
On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: > how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? > First make a project from the console.prj template. Then 'Project'-'New'-'From Template', crossarmdefault.prj, in 'New Project' select the *.prj file of the new console project. This method works for existing projects too. Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On 11/27/2014 01:02 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote:
> I don't understand why so much discussion about Unicode support on FPC
> list
Did you read
http://wiki.freepascal.org/not_Delphi_compatible_enhancement_for_Unicode_Support
?
Here: "With Delphi XE, Embarcadero decided that the
one-byte-per-character String type that uses an (ANSI-compatible)
encoding restricted to a certain set of languages (usually defined by
the system locale) is not versatile enough."
In fact we (company) do Software targeted to multiple countries (in
Delphi) to do that, its very difficult without Unicode support.
OTOH, decently handling Unicode is not an easy task. Delphi
(unsuccessfully) tries to hide the ubiquitous Unicode pitfalls from the
("rapid") application developer.
ftp is on the tracks of Delphi, and might (or might not) do a better job.
-Michael
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 11/27/2014 01:02 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote:
>> I don't understand why so much discussion about Unicode support on FPC
>> list
> Did you read
> http://wiki.freepascal.org/not_Delphi_compatible_enhancement_for_Unicode_Support
> ?
>
> Here: "With Delphi XE, Embarcadero decided that the
> one-byte-per-character String type that uses an (ANSI-compatible)
> encoding restricted to a certain set of languages (usually defined by
> the system locale) is not versatile enough."
>
> In fact we (company) do Software targeted to multiple countries (in
> Delphi) to do that, its very difficult without Unicode support.
>
> OTOH, decently handling Unicode is not an easy task. Delphi
> (unsuccessfully) tries to hide the ubiquitous Unicode pitfalls from the
> ("rapid") application developer.
>
> ftp is on the tracks of Delphi, and might (or might not) do a better job.
Thanks for the information.
Marcos Douglas
PS:
I know Unicode support is not easy and very important... but many
other languages already have Unicode support.
The problem in FPC, I think, is they want to keep Old code, Delphi
compatibilities, implement new things... at the same time!
IMHO they should:
1- Forget Delphi compatibilities, at least in mode objfpc;
2- Forget old codes. Will break compatibilities, yes, but we will have
a better compiler;
3- RTL, LCL, whatever... needs to talking using the same encode;
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console
On 28 Nov 2014, at 12:39, Martin Schreiber wrote: > On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: >> how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? >> > First make a project from the console.prj template. Then > 'Project'-'New'-'From > Template', crossarmdefault.prj, in 'New Project' select the *.prj file of the > new console project. This method works for existing projects too. I tried it:- /home/geoffrey/mseidecross//eabihf/lib/fpc/2.6.5/units/arm-linux/rtl/cprt0.o: In function `_haltproc_eabi': (.text+0x88): undefined reference to `_fini' /home/geoffrey/mseidecross//eabihf/lib/fpc/2.6.5/units/arm-linux/rtl/cprt0.o: In function `_haltproc_eabi': (.text+0x90): undefined reference to `_init' con1.pas(8,20) Error: Error while linking con1.pas(8,20) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: Compilation aborted line 8,20 is the end of a writeln. I switched to 'local' and it built and ran correctly. Geoffrey > > Martin > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On 11/28/2014 03:20 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: > The problem in FPC, I think, is they want to keep Old code, Delphi > compatibilities, implement new things... at the same time! Plus creating code for multiple OSes and processors. > > IMHO they should: > 1- Forget Delphi compatibilities, at least in mode objfpc; > 2- Forget old codes. Will break compatibilities, yes, but we will have > a better compiler; > 3- RTL, LCL, whatever... needs to talking using the same encode; > In fact they do something like this by allowing the user to select sevberal modes (e.g. "fpc" "delphi" and "delphiunicode") I.e. there are several different implementations (and syntax) for several issues. But doing a decently better implementation of Unicode support is a lot of work and nobody pays them :-( . -Michael -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Friday 28 November 2014 15:41:29 Michael Schnell wrote: > > In fact they do something like this by allowing the user to select > sevberal modes (e.g. "fpc" "delphi" and "delphiunicode") I.e. there are > several different implementations (and syntax) for several issues. > > But doing a decently better implementation of Unicode support is a lot > of work and nobody pays them :-( . > FPC has Unicode support since ages, it is named "UnicodeString". It even had it before Delphi before Florian killed it by making the reference counted win32 WideString a Delphi compatible OLE string. I unsuccessfully begged to preserve the referencecounted 16 bit string type on all platforms. Please forget the crap with "codepage aware ansistring", dynamic encoded string and what not... MSElang has "string8" (utf-8), "string16" (utf-16), "string32" (UCS-4) and "bytestring" which can hold any 8-bit encoding or binary data. Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Michael Schnell wrote: > On 11/28/2014 03:20 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: >> The problem in FPC, I think, is they want to keep Old code, Delphi >> compatibilities, implement new things... at the same time! > Plus creating code for multiple OSes and processors. >> >> IMHO they should: >> 1- Forget Delphi compatibilities, at least in mode objfpc; >> 2- Forget old codes. Will break compatibilities, yes, but we will have >> a better compiler; >> 3- RTL, LCL, whatever... needs to talking using the same encode; >> > In fact they do something like this by allowing the user to select > sevberal modes (e.g. "fpc" "delphi" and "delphiunicode") I.e. there are > several different implementations (and syntax) for several issues. > > But doing a decently better implementation of Unicode support is a lot > of work and nobody pays them :-( . Yep, this is a problem... Marcos Douglas -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console
On Friday 28 November 2014 15:25:12 Geoffrey Barton wrote: > On 28 Nov 2014, at 12:39, Martin Schreiber wrote: > > On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: > >> how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? > > > > First make a project from the console.prj template. Then > > 'Project'-'New'-'From Template', crossarmdefault.prj, in 'New Project' > > select the *.prj file of the new console project. This method works for > > existing projects too. > > I tried it:- > > /home/geoffrey/mseidecross//eabihf/lib/fpc/2.6.5/units/arm-linux/rtl/cprt0. >o: In function `_haltproc_eabi': (.text+0x88): undefined reference to > `_fini' > /home/geoffrey/mseidecross//eabihf/lib/fpc/2.6.5/units/arm-linux/rtl/cprt0. >o: In function `_haltproc_eabi': (.text+0x90): undefined reference to > `_init' > con1.pas(8,20) Error: Error while linking > con1.pas(8,20) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping > Fatal: Compilation aborted > > line 8,20 is the end of a writeln. > Workaround: add "msegui" to uses. One should ask on the FPC mailing list but I don't dare... Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On 11/28/2014 04:04 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > Please forget the crap with "codepage aware ansistring", dynamic > encoded string and what not... IMHO, the reference counting "element-size and encoding-brand enabled" (tm) data type is a really powerful concept. But unfortunately there is no decent implementation done for that yet. As Graeme suggested in the discussion in fpc-devel, the Embarcadero syntax designers provided a really nice paradigm (even though I hate the misleading "ANSI" and "CodePage" wording, which easily could be avoided), but the Embarcadero code implementers messed it up. And fpc simply followed :-( . -Michael -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > On Friday 28 November 2014 15:41:29 Michael Schnell wrote: >> >> In fact they do something like this by allowing the user to select >> sevberal modes (e.g. "fpc" "delphi" and "delphiunicode") I.e. there are >> several different implementations (and syntax) for several issues. >> >> But doing a decently better implementation of Unicode support is a lot >> of work and nobody pays them :-( . >> > FPC has Unicode support since ages, it is named "UnicodeString". It even had > it before Delphi before Florian killed it by making the reference counted > win32 WideString a Delphi compatible OLE string. I unsuccessfully begged to > preserve the referencecounted 16 bit string type on all platforms. > Please forget the crap with "codepage aware ansistring", dynamic encoded > string and what not... > MSElang has "string8" (utf-8), "string16" (utf-16), "string32" (UCS-4) > and "bytestring" which can hold any 8-bit encoding or binary data. That's what I'm talking about! You (alone?) solved this problem. Why FPC _team_ has not resolved yet? Marcos Douglas -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On 11/28/2014 04:04 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > MSElang has "string8" (utf-8), "string16" (utf-16), "string32" (UCS-4) > and "bytestring" which can hold any 8-bit encoding or binary data. > With that you also need TStrings8, TStrings16,and TStrings32, and all its siblings need 8, 16 and 32 interfaces. I am not sure if this is really workable. Moreover there is no support for multiple ANSI code pages. While I think I would not miss that one, I am sure others will. -Michael -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: > On 11/28/2014 04:04 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: >> Please forget the crap with "codepage aware ansistring", dynamic >> encoded string and what not... > IMHO, the reference counting "element-size and encoding-brand enabled" > (tm) data type is a really powerful concept. But unfortunately there is > no decent implementation done for that yet. As Graeme suggested in the > discussion in fpc-devel, the Embarcadero syntax designers provided a > really nice paradigm (even though I hate the misleading "ANSI" and > "CodePage" wording, which easily could be avoided), but the Embarcadero > code implementers messed it up. And fpc simply followed :-( . "And fpc simply followed" That's what I really do not understand. If wants Delphi so, buy and use it! Well, the discussion came here... Marcos Douglas -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] crossarm console
On 28 Nov 2014, at 15:16, Martin Schreiber wrote: > On Friday 28 November 2014 15:25:12 Geoffrey Barton wrote: >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 12:39, Martin Schreiber wrote: >>> On Friday 28 November 2014 11:48:08 Geoffrey Barton wrote: how do I crossarm-compile a console app, apart from hiding the form? >>> >>> First make a project from the console.prj template. Then >>> 'Project'-'New'-'From Template', crossarmdefault.prj, in 'New Project' >>> select the *.prj file of the new console project. This method works for >>> existing projects too. >> >> I tried it:- >> >> /home/geoffrey/mseidecross//eabihf/lib/fpc/2.6.5/units/arm-linux/rtl/cprt0. >> o: In function `_haltproc_eabi': (.text+0x88): undefined reference to >> `_fini' >> /home/geoffrey/mseidecross//eabihf/lib/fpc/2.6.5/units/arm-linux/rtl/cprt0. >> o: In function `_haltproc_eabi': (.text+0x90): undefined reference to >> `_init' >> con1.pas(8,20) Error: Error while linking >> con1.pas(8,20) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping >> Fatal: Compilation aborted >> >> line 8,20 is the end of a writeln. >> > Workaround: add "msegui" to uses. yes! > One should ask on the FPC mailing list but I > don't dare... :-) Geoffrey > > Martin > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:16:44 Marcos Douglas wrote: > > FPC has Unicode support since ages, it is named "UnicodeString". It even > > had it before Delphi before Florian killed it by making the reference > > counted win32 WideString a Delphi compatible OLE string. I unsuccessfully > > begged to preserve the referencecounted 16 bit string type on all > > platforms. Please forget the crap with "codepage aware ansistring", > > dynamic encoded string and what not... > > MSElang has "string8" (utf-8), "string16" (utf-16), "string32" (UCS-4) > > and "bytestring" which can hold any 8-bit encoding or binary data. > > That's what I'm talking about! > You (alone?) solved this problem. Why FPC _team_ has not resolved yet? > Because they need to be Delphi compatible and because it is a hobby project where the purpose is not to produce tools for others for free but that the developers have fun. Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On 11/28/2014 04:23 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: > If wants Delphi so, buy and use it! It still is not usable on Linux (and supposedly VCL applications will never be portable to Linux with Delphi). fpc can help. :-( In fact my colleagues need to keep their huge set of huge Programs compilable by any current Delphi version. And they would like to be able to provide a Linux (PC and ARM) version of their stuff. -Michael -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
2014-11-28 16:29 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : > > ... because it is a hobby project > where the purpose is not to produce tools for others for free but that the > developers have fun. > > Really? why do you think so? you can read at freepascal.org: "Free Pascal is a 32,64 and 16 bit professional Pascal compiler..." even when they have fun developing it, their target it produce a professional tool (and Delphi compatible... mostly...). -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
its really nice to see msegui/mseide still growing . keep up the good work . btw , do you have intention to implement code completion or its low priority ? -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:41:31 Julio Jiménez wrote: > 2014-11-28 16:29 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : > > ... because it is a hobby project > > where the purpose is not to produce tools for others for free but that > > the developers have fun. > > Really? why do you think so? Ask Florian. Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:41:57 misu kun wrote: > its really nice to see msegui/mseide still growing . > keep up the good work . > > btw , do you have intention to implement code completion or its low > priority ? > You know the story, don't you? ;-) Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : > > > Ask Florian. > > I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him on IRC. But for me it sounds like a response after a long discussion ;) Are you sure you didn't took his words out of context? :) -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Updated mseconsts_es.pas
Fix typo :( -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero mseconsts_es.7z Description: application/7z-compressed -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Friday 28 November 2014 17:01:02 Julio Jiménez wrote: > 2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : > > Ask Florian. > > I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him > on IRC. But for me it sounds like a response after a long discussion ;) > Are you sure you didn't took his words out of context? > > :) There are several messages in the mailing lists from him where somebody asks for something and he answers that nothing will be done from core if the core members have no fun to do it and he should provide patches. He also several times stated while asked about the goals of the Free Pascal project that the only goal is to make a Pascal compiler programmed in Pascal. For me that reads as that the compiler should compile itself, the rest is not important. This goal has been reached. :-) BTW, this position is absolutely understandable, why should FPC core work for free for us? Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: > On 11/28/2014 04:23 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote: >> If wants Delphi so, buy and use it! > > It still is not usable on Linux (and supposedly VCL applications will > never be portable to Linux with Delphi). > > fpc can help. :-( > > In fact my colleagues need to keep their huge set of huge Programs > compilable by any current Delphi version. And they would like to be > able to provide a Linux (PC and ARM) version of their stuff. But if you can use FPC why not migrate all? Why use Delphi compiler on Windows and FPC for others? Marcos Douglas -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Julio Jiménez wrote: > > > 2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : >> >> >> >> Ask Florian. >> > > I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him > on IRC. But for me it sounds like a response after a long discussion ;) Are > you sure you didn't took his words out of context? > :) In fact, Florian said this many times. :( Marcos Douglas -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
2014-11-28 17:39 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : > > For me that reads as that the compiler should compile itself, the rest is > not > important. This goal has been reached. :-) > Yes, long time ago. > BTW, this position is absolutely understandable, why should FPC core work > for > free for us? > May be... for fun? ;) Well, jokes apart, I understand them like I understand you too (or I guess so). I contribute or have contributed to various open source projects. I don't do it for money, just for fun. For fun doesn't mean you aren't going to develop a professional program/tool.. I think both (FPC devs and you) are using the same criterias. You aren't going to develop in MSEide something you don't like or don't need. (is not fun for you) This brings to my brain.. PDF support, autocompletion, code format... In fact, you haven't to do it. Probably dont' like to implement something other users suggested for the same reason or other. I don't think that FPC is actually a hobby. Probably it was in the first release years ago :) -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > On Friday 28 November 2014 17:01:02 Julio Jiménez wrote: >> 2014-11-28 16:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : >> > Ask Florian. >> >> I don't know if Florian reads this forum to respond. Perhaps I can find him >> on IRC. But for me it sounds like a response after a long discussion ;) >> Are you sure you didn't took his words out of context? >> >> :) > > There are several messages in the mailing lists from him where somebody asks > for something and he answers that nothing will be done from core if the core > members have no fun to do it and he should provide patches. He also several > times stated while asked about the goals of the Free Pascal project that the > only goal is to make a Pascal compiler programmed in Pascal. > For me that reads as that the compiler should compile itself, the rest is not > important. This goal has been reached. :-) > BTW, this position is absolutely understandable, why should FPC core work for > free for us? Certainly... including you. :) Marcos Douglas -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:41:57 misu kun wrote: > its really nice to see msegui/mseide still growing . > keep up the good work . > > btw , do you have intention to implement code completion or its low > priority ? > http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,26601.msg163745.html#msg163745 ;-) Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
On Friday 28 November 2014 18:00:38 Julio Jiménez wrote: > > I think both (FPC devs and you) are using the same criterias. You aren't > going to develop in MSEide something you don't like or don't need. (is not > fun for you) This brings to my brain.. PDF support, > autocompletion, code > format... In fact, you haven't to do it. Probably dont' like to implement > something other users suggested for the same reason or other. > The problem with PDF is that it does not provide the calculation options that PostScript offers. MSEgui PostScript driver makes the precision text placement in the PostScript code with the actually loaded font. PDF can't do this, there one needs to read the font files and parse the font tables in order to make precision text placement. I can't do that because fonts and their locations are too system specific, a can of worms. Embedding fonts is also problematic because of licensing issues. Another problem is PDF Unicode. It is not that I did not wanted to do it but I did not found a solution which was good enough. So I suggest to use ps2pdf. I also optimized the MSEgui PostScript output for PS-viewers as preview possibility. Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Updated mseconsts_es.pas
On Friday 28 November 2014 17:21:11 Julio Jiménez wrote: > Fix typo :( Applied, thanks. Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, status
2014-11-28 18:25 GMT+01:00 Martin Schreiber : > > The problem with PDF is that it does not provide the calculation options > that > PostScript offers. MSEgui PostScript driver makes the precision text > placement in the PostScript code with the actually loaded font. PDF can't > do > this, there one needs to read the font files and parse the font tables in > order to make precision text placement. I can't do that because fonts and > their locations are too system specific, a can of worms. Embedding fonts is > also problematic because of licensing issues. > Another problem is PDF Unicode. It is not that I did not wanted to do it > but I > did not found a solution which was good enough. So I suggest to use > ps2pdf. I > also optimized the MSEgui PostScript output for PS-viewers as preview > possibility. > > Sorry, I don't asking you to implement PDF support or other features. What I mean is that you are using similar arguments as FPC devs. You all have your reasons. About postscript and ps2pdf, I discarded it years ago. It was too slow for my needs. What I did at first, was get the original PowerPDF code (not the lazarus version) and modified it to make it working with fpc (no mse nor lazarus dependencies) then I wrote a API to build reports in the way I could use it under MSE and Lazarus. After this, I ported my api to Lazarus as lazreport addon and worked with Jesus Reyes in Cairo support (not it's used by default in Lazarus). For MSE applications, I use a report generator developed with Lazarus + Lazreport so I can generate high quality PDF under linux and windows embedding the desired fonts into the PDF... Something like what Wahono did with Repaz but with code reporting capability. For code formatting... I use JCF as tool in MSEide... I can't wait for someone to implement something I can do ;) Actually I'm using FPC, MSE and Lazarus with really good results. -- Julio Jiménez Borreguero -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
First of all, congratulations for this Project. I'm new to MSEide-MSEgui, so probably I'm making something wrong. My system Win32 - Windows 7. My suggestions: * Make it more easy to install and use. You can download Lazarus and use it inmmediatly, without configure anything. I'm spending half an hour trying to have the MSEide-MSEgui working. (OK, I admit than I'm not the best user). * Improve the interface. The font are very small on my system and the text are very close. It give me headache when reading the menu. Some buttons are microscopic. I can work well with Lazarus or other compilers. (OK, I admit that I need to use glasses). > From: mse00...@gmail.com > To: mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:36:14 +0100 > Subject: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6 > > Hi, > MSEide+MSEgui 3.6 has been released: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ > > New target: arm-linux (Raspberry Pi). MSEide runs amazingly fast on the > Raspberry Pi. > There is also a new project template for i386-linux -> arm-linux cross > compiling and debugging. The necessary cross-compiling environment is here: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcrossarm/ > Please read README.TXT of the MSEide+MSEgui package. > > MSEide 3.6 now supports docking of design forms like any other MSEide window. > > There are also new versions of MSEgit and MSEspice and there is a new tool > MSEtest which can be used in order to run unit tests or to compile a group of > programs. > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/ > > Martin > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
Do you have to configure the FPC and the GDB too? I didn't read it on the "README,txt". It's very complicated to create a simple project. There is not a default path or name. The Open dialog is something strange. There is a console window with a error message: "Syntaxdeffile: Unable to open file "/C:/Users/Administrador/Desktop/bin/msegui/apps/ide/syntaxdefs/pascal.sdef"" After more than one hour trying. No success. I give up. I hope the next versions are easier to use. From: dev_nul...@hotmail.com To: mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:10:31 + Subject: Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6 First of all, congratulations for this Project. I'm new to MSEide-MSEgui, so probably I'm making something wrong. My system Win32 - Windows 7. My suggestions: * Make it more easy to install and use. You can download Lazarus and use it inmmediatly, without configure anything. I'm spending half an hour trying to have the MSEide-MSEgui working. (OK, I admit than I'm not the best user). * Improve the interface. The font are very small on my system and the text are very close. It give me headache when reading the menu. Some buttons are microscopic. I can work well with Lazarus or other compilers. (OK, I admit that I need to use glasses). > From: mse00...@gmail.com > To: mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:36:14 +0100 > Subject: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6 > > Hi, > MSEide+MSEgui 3.6 has been released: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ > > New target: arm-linux (Raspberry Pi). MSEide runs amazingly fast on the > Raspberry Pi. > There is also a new project template for i386-linux -> arm-linux cross > compiling and debugging. The necessary cross-compiling environment is here: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcrossarm/ > Please read README.TXT of the MSEide+MSEgui package. > > MSEide 3.6 now supports docking of design forms like any other MSEide window. > > There are also new versions of MSEgit and MSEspice and there is a new tool > MSEtest which can be used in order to run unit tests or to compile a group of > programs. > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/ > > Martin > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
On 11/28/2014 01:10 PM, Edson H wrote: First of all, congratulations for this Project. I'm new to MSEide-MSEgui, so probably I'm making something wrong. My system Win32 - Windows 7. My suggestions: * Make it more easy to install and use. You can download Lazarus and use it inmmediatly, without configure anything. I'm spending half an hour trying to have the MSEide-MSEgui working. (OK, I admit than I'm not the best user). * Improve the interface. The font are very small on my system and the text are very close. It give me headache when reading the menu. Some buttons are microscopic. I can work well with Lazarus or other compilers. (OK, I admit that I need to use glasses). On the www.msegui.org website see the Tutorials -> Setup and Start Project. That might help to get you going. Patrick -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
On Friday 28 November 2014 19:10:31 Edson H wrote: > First of all, congratulations for this Project. > > I'm new to MSEide-MSEgui, so probably I'm making something wrong. > > My system Win32 - Windows 7. > > My suggestions: > > * Make it more easy to install and use. You can download Lazarus and use it > inmmediatly, without configure anything. I'm spending half an hour trying > to have the MSEide-MSEgui working. (OK, I admit than I'm not the best > user). * Improve the interface. The font are very small on my system and > the text are very close. It give me headache when reading the menu. Some > buttons are microscopic. I can work well with Lazarus or other compilers. > (OK, I admit that I need to use glasses). > Please start MSEide with mseide.exe --fontalias=stf_default,,16 Martin -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6
On Friday 28 November 2014 19:38:36 Edson H wrote:
> Do you have to configure the FPC and the GDB too? I didn't read it on the
> "README,txt".
>
The ${FPCDIR} and ${FPCLIBDIR} macros are not used by the MSEgui project
templates, you can use them in your own settings if you like.
${DEBUGGER} must be set if gdb.exe is not in environment path variable.
Normally the FPC installation does this.
> It's very complicated to create a simple project. There is not a default
> path or name. The Open dialog is something strange. There is a console
> window with a error message: "Syntaxdeffile: Unable to open file
> "/C:/Users/Administrador/Desktop/bin/msegui/apps/ide/syntaxdefs/pascal.sdef
>""
>
I assume you did not install the development environment:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/mseide-msegui/3.6/mseide_msegui_src_3_6.zip/download
(step 2. of README.TXT).
"/C:/Users/Administrador/Desktop" is a very bad choice for the MSEide-MSEgui
working directory.
Please see 6. and 7. in order to run the demo project.
"
Installation:
*
1. Download and install FPC 2.6.4, you can get it from
http://www.freepascal.org/download.var
2. Download mseide_msegui_src_3_6.zip and the mseide_* archive for your
system.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/mseide-msegui/3.6/
3. Extract them to a directory of your choice ('yourdirectory') .
4. Run 'yourdirectory/bin/mseide' on linux and freebsed or
'yourdirectory\bin\mseide.exe' on windows.
5. In 'Settings'-'Configure MSEide'-'${MSEDIR}' select 'yourdirectory/msegui'.
6. In 'Project'-'Open' select 'yourdirectory/msegui/apps/demo/demo.prj'.
7. 'Target'-'Continue'.
"
If this is too difficult there are installers on msegui.org made by
Patrick. ;-)
http://msegui.org/?q=node/9
I assume version 3.6 will appear soon.
Martin
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