Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 15/05/2020 6:41 pm, fredvs wrote:
> Ha, ok, yes for me too, Java for eat, Pascal for fun.

Exactly. I still love Object Pascal. For 20 something years it has
been my living. But in recent years that got harder and harder. My
second choice has always been Java, and a year ago I finally made
the switch. A HUGE learning curve though. Not so much the language,
but more the massive framework included with Java and all the other
frameworks that make up the JavaEE ecosystem. So much to learn, but
it is awesome! Java development really is amazing.

> About tiOFP, sorry for that question but it puzzle me since the beginning...
> What means those five letters (tiOFP) ?

No worries - most people probably don't know that answer either. :-D

tiOPF stands for TechInsite Object Persistence Framework. The original
creator of the framework, Peter Hinrichsen, had a company called
TechInsite Pty Ltd, based in Melbourne, Australia. He developed
the framework for his business needs and clients, and eventually
open sourced it somewhere in the late 90's.


>> On the fpGUI front, I'm busy working on a MacOS Cocoa.
> Wow, this one is a big fish and would be wonderful.

Yes, that has been a highly requested feature for many years. As I
now work daily on a Mac, I thought it's a good time to implement it.
Before I never had access to a Mac.


Regards,
  Graeme

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread fredvs
Hello Graeme.

> I did take a bit of a break while concentrating on Java

Ha, ok, yes for me too, Java for eat, Pascal for fun.

> Currently busy doing some vital missing documentation for tiOPF.

About tiOFP, sorry for that question but it puzzle me since the beginning...
What means those five letters (tiOFP) ?

> On the fpGUI front, I'm busy working on a MacOS Cocoa.

Wow, this one is a big fish and would be wonderful.

Fre;D




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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 15/05/2020 4:51 pm, fredvs wrote:
> Also do you have news about Ultibo + fpGUI ?

Unfortunately I don't have any news. Last I heard they were making
good progress, but I haven't been following the Ultibo project.


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  Graeme

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 15/05/2020 4:39 pm, fredvs wrote:
> About fpGUI, it seems to be in stand-by those last time...
> Are you in plan to continue the develop branch?


I did take a bit of a break while concentrating on Java for
my new job. I'm getting back into my Object Pascal projects
though. :-)

Currently busy doing some vital missing documentation for
tiOPF. On the fpGUI front, I'm busy working on a MacOS
Cocoa backend and stabilising the "develop" branch under
Windows.

Regards,
  Graeme

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http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread fredvs
Re-hello Graeme.

Also do you have news about Ultibo + fpGUI ?

It was already well advanced, many fpGUI widgets worked, but since +- 1
year, no more movement in Ultibo site.

https://ultibo.org/

Fre;D
 



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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread fredvs
Hello Graeme.

About fpGUI, it seems to be in stand-by those last time...
Are you in plan to continue the develop branch?

Fre;D



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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 15/05/2020 3:40 pm, fredvs wrote:
> May I ask you what you are using to build MSEgui projects?

I don't use MSEgui at all. I only use MSEide out of the
MSEide+MSEgui project. All my desktop projects are based on
fpGUI Toolkit.

Regards,
  Graeme


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread fredvs
Hello Graeme.

Thanks for those clear explanations.

> I don't use MSEide to build MSEgui projects. 

May I ask you what you are using to build MSEgui projects?

Fre;D



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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How is called the widgetset in MSEgui?

2020-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 03/05/2020 4:45 pm, fredvs wrote:
> There is the Lazarus-widgetset called 'LCL' but for MSEide-MSEgui, what is
> his name, MSEgui widgetset?

I minor correction there. ;-) LCL is the "toolkit" or library. The full
name being "Lazarus Component Library".
The Lazarus widgetsets are: LCL-gtk2, LCL-fpgui, LCL-win32 etc.


>From a discussion with Martin a very long time ago...

  MSEide+MSEgui = The whole project, which includes the tools (eg. IDE)
  and the framework to build user interfaces.

  MSEide = The "tools" part. ie: the IDE,
  MSEgui = The UI framework part. ie: the toolkit


So in context:
I use MSEide from the MSEide+MSEgui project, to develop fpGUI and
tiOPF based application. I don't use MSEide to build MSEgui projects.


Regards,
  Graeme

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