[mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread Wendell Hutchison 
No, CB= Current Branch, CBB= Current Branch Business, and LTSB= Long Term 
Service Branch.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-overview#servicing-channels


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Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:39 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

So business=enterprise?

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Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

There used to be 2 feature updates showing, not really knowing which one was 
what, now they have separated into Business (enterprise) and Consumer editions

Vern Bateman
Support Services Analyst
Affinity Credit Union | Estevan
P 306.385.4492  M 306.371.3840

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To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Supersedence says this. Weird.

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Subject: [mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Anyone else have this? I can't find a different version of the enterprise 
update in my console.

[cid:image002.png@01D3939E.448159C0]


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Re: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread Adam Juelich 
Is this a Semi-Annual Channel (Broad) versus (Targeted) thing?  AKA, CBB vs
CB?

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Bateman, Vern 
wrote:

> This is how it use to show in configmgr..2 updates per each language. MS I
> take it has made it easier to distinguish the 2 updates. Makes sense..lol
>
> Http://bit.ly/2F1FIEH
>
>
> So yes. Business equals Enterprise.
>
>
> Vern Bateman
> Support Services Analyst
> Affinity Credit Union | Campus
> P 306.385.4492 <(306)%20385-4492>  M 306.371.3840 <(306)%20371-3840>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: ODONNELL Aaron M 
> Date: 2018-01-22 5:23 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: "'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'" 
> Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?
>
> Is there any actual difference between the two editions, or is it just
> branding?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Aaron O’Donnell
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Bateman, Vern
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 2:22 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?
>
>
>
> There used to be 2 feature updates showing, not really knowing which one
> was what, now they have separated into Business (enterprise) and Consumer
> editions
>
>
>
> *Vern Bateman*
>
> Support Services Analyst
>
> *Affinity Credit Union | *Estevan
>
> *P* 306.385.4492 <(306)%20385-4492>  *M *306.371.3840 <(306)%20371-3840>
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>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mike Murray
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 3:35 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?
>
>
>
> Supersedence says this. Weird.
>
>
>
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>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mike Murray
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 10:51 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?
>
>
>
> Anyone else have this? I can’t find a different version of the enterprise
> update in my console.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Mike Murray
>
> Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services
>
> California State University, Chico
>
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> mmur...@csuchico.edu
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Re: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread Bateman, Vern 
This is how it use to show in configmgr..2 updates per each language. MS I take 
it has made it easier to distinguish the 2 updates. Makes sense..lol

Http://bit.ly/2F1FIEH


So yes. Business equals Enterprise.


Vern Bateman
Support Services Analyst
Affinity Credit Union | Campus
P 306.385.4492  M 306.371.3840


 Original message 
From: ODONNELL Aaron M 
Date: 2018-01-22 5:23 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: "'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'" 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Is there any actual difference between the two editions, or is it just branding?


Thanks,

Aaron O’Donnell

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Behalf Of Bateman, Vern
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

There used to be 2 feature updates showing, not really knowing which one was 
what, now they have separated into Business (enterprise) and Consumer editions

Vern Bateman
Support Services Analyst
Affinity Credit Union | Estevan
P 306.385.4492  M 306.371.3840

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:35 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Supersedence says this. Weird.

[cid:image001.png@01D39394.2805FBC0]



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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:51 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Anyone else have this? I can’t find a different version of the enterprise 
update in my console.

[cid:image002.png@01D39394.2805FBC0]


[cid:image003.png@01D39394.2805FBC0]


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Mike Murray
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California State University, Chico
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[mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread ODONNELL Aaron M 
Is there any actual difference between the two editions, or is it just branding?


Thanks,

Aaron O'Donnell

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Behalf Of Bateman, Vern
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

There used to be 2 feature updates showing, not really knowing which one was 
what, now they have separated into Business (enterprise) and Consumer editions

Vern Bateman
Support Services Analyst
Affinity Credit Union | Estevan
P 306.385.4492  M 306.371.3840

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:35 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Supersedence says this. Weird.

[cid:image001.png@01D39394.2805FBC0]



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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:51 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Anyone else have this? I can't find a different version of the enterprise 
update in my console.

[cid:image002.png@01D39394.2805FBC0]


[cid:image003.png@01D39394.2805FBC0]


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California State University, Chico
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mmur...@csuchico.edu

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[mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread Mike Murray 
So business=enterprise?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Bateman, Vern
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

There used to be 2 feature updates showing, not really knowing which one was 
what, now they have separated into Business (enterprise) and Consumer editions

Vern Bateman
Support Services Analyst
Affinity Credit Union | Estevan
P 306.385.4492  M 306.371.3840

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:35 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Supersedence says this. Weird.

[cid:image001.png@01D3938E.C2AA0DC0]



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:51 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Anyone else have this? I can't find a different version of the enterprise 
update in my console.

[cid:image002.png@01D3938E.C2AA0DC0]


[cid:image003.png@01D3938E.C2AA0DC0]


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Mike Murray
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California State University, Chico
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mmur...@csuchico.edu

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[mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread Bateman, Vern 
There used to be 2 feature updates showing, not really knowing which one was 
what, now they have separated into Business (enterprise) and Consumer editions

Vern Bateman
Support Services Analyst
Affinity Credit Union | Estevan
P 306.385.4492  M 306.371.3840

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:35 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Supersedence says this. Weird.

[cid:image001.png@01D3939D.1D2021F0]



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:51 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Anyone else have this? I can't find a different version of the enterprise 
update in my console.

[cid:image002.png@01D3939D.1D2021F0]


[cid:image003.png@01D3939D.1D2021F0]


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Mike Murray
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California State University, Chico
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mmur...@csuchico.edu

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[mssms] RE: Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread Mike Murray 
Supersedence says this. Weird.

[cid:image003.png@01D39385.DA2AAE40]



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:51 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

Anyone else have this? I can't find a different version of the enterprise 
update in my console.

[cid:image004.png@01D39385.DA2AAE40]


[cid:image005.png@01D39385.DA2AAE40]


Best Regards,

Mike Murray
Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services
California State University, Chico
530.898.4357
mmur...@csuchico.edu

Remember, Chico State will NEVER ask you for your password via email!
For more information about recognizing phishing scam emails go to: 
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[mssms] Windows 10 servicing update showing superseded?

2018-01-22 Thread Mike Murray 
Anyone else have this? I can't find a different version of the enterprise 
update in my console.

[cid:image001.png@01D3936E.D12B7C50]


[cid:image002.png@01D3936E.D12B7C50]


Best Regards,

Mike Murray
Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services
California State University, Chico
530.898.4357
mmur...@csuchico.edu

Remember, Chico State will NEVER ask you for your password via email!
For more information about recognizing phishing scam emails go to: 
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RE: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

2018-01-22 Thread Jason Sandys 
Sorry, you're correct. It was a follow-on post of his at 
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/11/23/seeing-extra-apps-turn-them-off/.

J

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Behalf Of Bradley, Matt
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:23 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

I don't see Niehaus talking about group policy in that blog article, but if 
you're referring to the GPO to block the store, and disable the consumer 
experience, we already do that, with good success on 1607.  Not sure why it 
wouldn't continue to work with 1709.  I've been looking over the 1709 admx 
template and don't see any updates to the GPO, but I'll take another look.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

Don't confuse built-in apps with those that are automatically added from the 
store when a user logs in. Two different things. The apps you call out below 
are not Microsoft apps, not built-in, and thus not subject to removal using 
Michael's script or anything similar - they instead come from the store as 
noted. This can be prevented by setting the appropriate group policy which 
Michael also describes in his blog post(s).

J

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bradley, Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:44 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Removing Apps from 1709

In the past when I built my 1607 image, I used Niehaus's script, seen here: 
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/11/11/removing-windows-10-in-box-apps-during-a-task-sequence/.
  Worked great.  Went to go use it again, as I build our new 1709 image (we 
skipped 1703), and am not having the same success.  Packages that I select with 
that script, are indeed removed after imaging, but they soon come back.  They 
are still listed in the app list, and soon rebuild themselves.  Can't just 
right click and delete from the menu either (that would be too easy).   Some 
packages (Code Writer, Eclipse Manager, etc.) appear that were never detected 
with the script to begin with.  I'm curious how others are dealing with image 
building and removing unwanted apps in their 1709 image.

RE: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

2018-01-22 Thread David McSpadden 
1703 screwed a lot of app thingies up.
1709 has only fixed a few.
Tread carefully

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I think I may give that a shot, thanks.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Gannon, Todd
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:07 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

I like the whitelist idea on this script from Nickolaj Andersen, works well in 
the 1709 image I'm preparing at present.

http://www.scconfigmgr.com/2016/03/01/remove-built-in-apps-when-creating-a-windows-10-reference-image/


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018 5:22 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

Don't confuse built-in apps with those that are automatically added from the 
store when a user logs in. Two different things. The apps you call out below 
are not Microsoft apps, not built-in, and thus not subject to removal using 
Michael's script or anything similar - they instead come from the store as 
noted. This can be prevented by setting the appropriate group policy which 
Michael also describes in his blog post(s).

J

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bradley, Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:44 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Removing Apps from 1709

In the past when I built my 1607 image, I used Niehaus's script, seen here: 
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/11/11/removing-windows-10-in-box-apps-during-a-task-sequence/.
  Worked great.  Went to go use it again, as I build our new 1709 image (we 
skipped 1703), and am not having the same success.  Packages that I select with 
that script, are indeed removed after imaging, but they soon come back.  They 
are still listed in the app list, and soon rebuild themselves.  Can't just 
right click and delete from the menu either (that would be too easy).   Some 
packages (Code Writer, Eclipse Manager, etc.) appear that were never detected 
with the script to begin with.  I'm curious how others are dealing with image 
building and removing unwanted apps in their 1709 image.






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RE: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

2018-01-22 Thread Bradley, Matt 
I think I may give that a shot, thanks.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Gannon, Todd
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:07 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

I like the whitelist idea on this script from Nickolaj Andersen, works well in 
the 1709 image I'm preparing at present.

http://www.scconfigmgr.com/2016/03/01/remove-built-in-apps-when-creating-a-windows-10-reference-image/


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018 5:22 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

Don't confuse built-in apps with those that are automatically added from the 
store when a user logs in. Two different things. The apps you call out below 
are not Microsoft apps, not built-in, and thus not subject to removal using 
Michael's script or anything similar - they instead come from the store as 
noted. This can be prevented by setting the appropriate group policy which 
Michael also describes in his blog post(s).

J

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bradley, Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:44 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Removing Apps from 1709

In the past when I built my 1607 image, I used Niehaus's script, seen here: 
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/11/11/removing-windows-10-in-box-apps-during-a-task-sequence/.
  Worked great.  Went to go use it again, as I build our new 1709 image (we 
skipped 1703), and am not having the same success.  Packages that I select with 
that script, are indeed removed after imaging, but they soon come back.  They 
are still listed in the app list, and soon rebuild themselves.  Can't just 
right click and delete from the menu either (that would be too easy).   Some 
packages (Code Writer, Eclipse Manager, etc.) appear that were never detected 
with the script to begin with.  I'm curious how others are dealing with image 
building and removing unwanted apps in their 1709 image.

RE: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

2018-01-22 Thread Bradley, Matt 
I don't see Niehaus talking about group policy in that blog article, but if 
you're referring to the GPO to block the store, and disable the consumer 
experience, we already do that, with good success on 1607.  Not sure why it 
wouldn't continue to work with 1709.  I've been looking over the 1709 admx 
template and don't see any updates to the GPO, but I'll take another look.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

Don't confuse built-in apps with those that are automatically added from the 
store when a user logs in. Two different things. The apps you call out below 
are not Microsoft apps, not built-in, and thus not subject to removal using 
Michael's script or anything similar - they instead come from the store as 
noted. This can be prevented by setting the appropriate group policy which 
Michael also describes in his blog post(s).

J

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bradley, Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:44 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Removing Apps from 1709

In the past when I built my 1607 image, I used Niehaus's script, seen here: 
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/11/11/removing-windows-10-in-box-apps-during-a-task-sequence/.
  Worked great.  Went to go use it again, as I build our new 1709 image (we 
skipped 1703), and am not having the same success.  Packages that I select with 
that script, are indeed removed after imaging, but they soon come back.  They 
are still listed in the app list, and soon rebuild themselves.  Can't just 
right click and delete from the menu either (that would be too easy).   Some 
packages (Code Writer, Eclipse Manager, etc.) appear that were never detected 
with the script to begin with.  I'm curious how others are dealing with image 
building and removing unwanted apps in their 1709 image.

[mssms] RE: 1709 Issues

2018-01-22 Thread Enley, Carl 
Thanks for the reply. I have been working the issues with the MS support team. 
I have been told that my issue related to Outlook search as well as the Excel 
error when sending to email is a bug in the 1709 Fall Creators update. It 
appears the Windows upgrade is removing Office registry keys, he could not 
provide any further information than that as the information is very new and 
nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

I was told the issue was not present in the 1703 build, because we got such a 
late start we decided to go to 1709 instead of 1703...maybe we should re-think 
our decision.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of ODONNELL Aaron M
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 4:54 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: 1709 Issues

We've seen both those two issues in our 1709 testing as well, and both those 
fixes worked for us in most cases. A few computers are still having the outlook 
search issue even after a repair + cleaning up the OSTs and creating a new 
Outlook profile. We haven't gotten very far in pursuing it since 1709 is still 
in testing and we are still working through a host of 1703 upgrade issues that 
have a much bigger priority.


Thanks,

Aaron O'Donnell

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Enley, Carl
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 5:53 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] 1709 Issues

We are currently starting to pilot the 1709 update to our users and have 
started to notice a few issues, I am curious if anyone else is seeing the same 
problems we are.

We are using 1709 Enterprise and SCCM 1706 task sequence to deploy, we have 
Office 2016 .msi version installed.

1 - After upgrading to 1709 our users are having search issues with Outlook 
2016, very similar to the issues last June when the security patch broke the 
search function. Basically when they search they have a message saying 
"Something went wrong and your search couldn't be completed", results are 
retuned but they appear to be missing some items. I was able to fix the issue 
by deleting the users .OST file and performing an Office repair, neither one by 
itself would fix the issue. This is really not a great solution as our users 
have pretty large .OST files and some of them are connected via slow WAN links.

Seems I may not be alone -
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/ie/en-US/c9673cdc-0fa9-4126-9acc-b9ec4ae3/after-windows-10-fall-update-1709-outlook-search-error?forum=outlook

2 - After upgrading to 1709 when a user is in Excel 2016 and they use the File 
> Share > Email to send the workbook via email they receive the following error 
"  General mail failure. Quit Excel, restart the mail system and try again". 
The only way to fic this is to delete the MAPI32.DLL file from C:\Program Files 
(x86)\Common Files\system\MSMAPI\1033\ directory.

Again it doesn't look like I am alone -
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/4ca08c76-5252-40a2-88bb-dd430d637c2b/general-mail-failure-quit-microsoft-excel-restart-the-mail-system-and-try-again?forum=Office2016ITPro

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/creator-update-excel-2016-general-mail-failure/07c820b6-3f5c-4a2d-bc2c-a051ec1effbf?auth=1

3 - My last issue is more of a product issue / feature request. While 
performing the 1709 upgrade over a VPN when the first reboot occurs the client 
loses contact with the MGT point, the task sequence continues to run and 
because I have the content downloaded before running the install succeeds and 
life is good. The problem with this is that the client does not queue up the 
status messages to be sent upon next connection to the network so our reporting 
is not reliable, we have no idea if the user is up to date via the monitoring 
tab...it gets messy as the systems stay in the "In progress" state.

I guess in an ideal world every user would be in an office somewhere connected 
to the corporate LAN while performing the feature updates but that is just not 
feasible in our environment as we have many road warriors and sales folks. I 
suppose some type of cloud / DMZ / IBCM type solution would help the situation 
but ideally I would expect the status messages to remain client side until the 
next time it connects to the MGT point and then send them up. Does anyone know 
of a script or something that could be run to re-send the task sequence status 
messages?

*Rant on/ - I have premiere support so I opened a ticket regarding the issues I 
am having, still waiting on response from MS but what I find ridiculous is that 
I have to open up 3 different tickets. So rather than working with one support 
rep I now have to mage 3 different support reps wanting to setup time to 
trouble shoot etc...all of the issues were caused by a simple 1709 feature

[mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

2018-01-22 Thread Jason Sandys 
Yes, that's valid also (and arguably better) but still has nothing to do with 
non-built-in apps like the ones called out below.

J

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Gannon, Todd
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:07 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

I like the whitelist idea on this script from Nickolaj Andersen, works well in 
the 1709 image I'm preparing at present.

http://www.scconfigmgr.com/2016/03/01/remove-built-in-apps-when-creating-a-windows-10-reference-image/


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018 5:22 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Apps from 1709

Don't confuse built-in apps with those that are automatically added from the 
store when a user logs in. Two different things. The apps you call out below 
are not Microsoft apps, not built-in, and thus not subject to removal using 
Michael's script or anything similar - they instead come from the store as 
noted. This can be prevented by setting the appropriate group policy which 
Michael also describes in his blog post(s).

J

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bradley, Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:44 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Removing Apps from 1709

In the past when I built my 1607 image, I used Niehaus's script, seen here: 
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/11/11/removing-windows-10-in-box-apps-during-a-task-sequence/.
  Worked great.  Went to go use it again, as I build our new 1709 image (we 
skipped 1703), and am not having the same success.  Packages that I select with 
that script, are indeed removed after imaging, but they soon come back.  They 
are still listed in the app list, and soon rebuild themselves.  Can't just 
right click and delete from the menu either (that would be too easy).   Some 
packages (Code Writer, Eclipse Manager, etc.) appear that were never detected 
with the script to begin with.  I'm curious how others are dealing with image 
building and removing unwanted apps in their 1709 image.