Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Hi Laurens, But, Javi, isn't the CF-IDE just extremely cool??? ^_^ Yep, that's exactly why I bought it. :) Really, I still love it :) small, silent, no external power supply... You tell me about that... This is how my MSX looked like when I was still living in Spain. Notice the mess behind the computer: http://www.ag0ny.com/misc/terminal-linux-msx.jpg Now there's just the IDE-CF cartridge, *WITH A SMALLER CARTRIDGE INSERTED INTO IT* (the CF memory card). What could be more MSX-like? ;) Regards, -- Javi Lavandeira - http://www.ag0ny.com ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
This is mine, still a lot of stuff around it, even with that CF-IDE. What I want now is Internet with it. (should work, if I know how-to) with an external modem on the IDE-RS232, but I rather want to use my cable-internet like I do with that PC next to the MSX. (Ethernet connection) http://home.planet.nl/~hapzee/My_MSX.htm Greetz, Hapzee - Original Message - From: Javi Lavandeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory Hi Laurens, But, Javi, isn't the CF-IDE just extremely cool??? ^_^ Yep, that's exactly why I bought it. :) Really, I still love it :) small, silent, no external power supply... You tell me about that... This is how my MSX looked like when I was still living in Spain. Notice the mess behind the computer: http://www.ag0ny.com/misc/terminal-linux-msx.jpg Now there's just the IDE-CF cartridge, *WITH A SMALLER CARTRIDGE INSERTED INTO IT* (the CF memory card). What could be more MSX-like? ;) Regards, -- Javi Lavandeira - http://www.ag0ny.com ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Javi Lavandeira wrote: You tell me about that... This is how my MSX looked like when I was still living in Spain. Notice the mess behind the computer: http://www.ag0ny.com/misc/terminal-linux-msx.jpg Heh, yeah, that looks familiar. Not only the mess behind the MSX by the way, but also the small cabinet-thing on the right. Seems they have IKEA in Spain as well ;p. Now there's just the IDE-CF cartridge, *WITH A SMALLER CARTRIDGE INSERTED INTO IT* (the CF memory card). What could be more MSX-like? ;) ^_^ Hapzee: what you could also do is connect your MSX to your PC via RS232, and let the latter act as a server (bridge is the proper word, I think). Then you can use your broadband connection. I did it already with Uzix some time ago. Been chatting on IRC with Zica on my MSX (it was a bit slow though -_-;; probably because everything in Uzix is C). ~Grauw -- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
RE: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Hapzee: what you could also do is connect your MSX to your PC via RS232, and let the latter act as a server (bridge is the proper word, I think). Then you can use your broadband connection. I did it already with Uzix some time ago. Been chatting on IRC with Zica on my MSX (it was a bit slow though -_-;; probably because everything in Uzix is C). Yeah, I already did that. I did it successfully with Linux and Windows NT 5.x. By the way, it wasn't slow at all, at least in R800 mode :P ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Yes, but some CF cards give a lot of problems. I am using 16 MB CFs, and they are the best for my needs. I had some strange errors with other cards too! If it is bigger than 32 MB you should create partitions, so you will have to boot from floppy. And, by the way, IDE CF won't work in your MSX2+, because it needs 128 KB RAM at least in order to work properly (due to MSXDOS2, that needs 128 KB). Regards, Edward Robsy From: Maico Arts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:37:31 +0200 If memory serves well, you should press DEL or some key to bypass CF bootup and boot normally from diskette. With the fdisk you should do the partitioning and then all should work normally. Greetings Maico Arts MSX-NBNO - Original Message - From: Javi Lavandeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory Hi all, I received today my IDE-CF, but I'm having some trouble with it. The problem is that if I boot the computer with a memory card in the master slot, the computer always hangs with the following error: No enough memory. These are the things I've found out: - Booting the MSX without a memory card inserted, the interface's BIOS says that it cannot find a master device and the computer boots normally. - Booting with a memory card in the master slot, I get the No enough memory error message in a FS-A1ST (expanded to 512Kb) and a FS-A1GT. I've tried also an FS-A1WX (64Kb) and I don't get the error message, but the floppy disk in this computer is broken, so I couldn't do more testing. - Flashing the BIOS works correctly when I boot the computer without a memory card. - The No enough memory error appears regardless of the slot where the cartridge is inserted. My hardware is: - Panasonic FS-A1ST (512Kb)/A1GT/A1WX - CF ATA-IDE, BIOS 2.21 - 128Mb CF card (detected as TOSHIBA THNCF128MA at boot) - Nothing else connected to the computer Any ideas on what can be causing the problem? Regards, PS: I posted this same message on Sunrise's forum too. -- Javi Lavandeira - http://www.ag0ny.com ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx -- This message was sent with an unlicensed evaluation version of Novell NetMail. Please see http://www.netmail.com/ for details. -- This message was sent with an unlicensed evaluation version of Novell NetMail. Please see http://www.netmail.com/ for details. ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx _ Reparaciones, servicios a domicilio, empresas, profesionales... Todo en la guía telefónica de QDQ. http://qdq.msn.es/msn.cfm ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Eduardo Robsy Petrus wrote: Yes, but some CF cards give a lot of problems. I am using 16 MB CFs, and they are the best for my needs. I had some strange errors with other cards too! If it is bigger than 32 MB you should create partitions, so you will have to boot from floppy. Have you tried another brand CF cart? Sunrise advises against using CF carts 32MB because the chance for incompatibilities is much bigger for those. However I can imagine some (cheap-ass ;)) CF carts could still give trouble. If that doesn't work either though I'm rather starting to think along the lines of the CF-IDE being broken. Oh, and PS, you'd need to initialize the damn thing indeed (floppy drive necessary). If you don't, it might very well execute some random uninitialized code causing the error to appear? Initializing can be done on your MSX2+, because you don't need DOS2 for that (keep DEL pressed to skip loading DOS2, keep INS pressed to skip loading the IDE-BIOS entirely). ~Grauw -- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Hello, Have you tried another brand CF cart? Sunrise advises against using CF carts 32MB because the chance for incompatibilities is much bigger for those. However I can imagine some (cheap-ass ;)) CF carts could still give trouble. If that doesn't work either though I'm rather starting to think along the lines of the CF-IDE being broken. My test showed me that a 16mb lexar CF card did not work when it was the only installed cf card. When using this card as a second card, it worked like a charm. Oh, and PS, you'd need to initialize the damn thing indeed (floppy drive necessary). If you don't, it might very well execute some random uninitialized code causing the error to appear? Initializing can be done on your MSX2+, because you don't need DOS2 for that (keep DEL pressed to skip loading DOS2, keep INS pressed to skip loading the IDE-BIOS entirely). That is what I was telling. The code executed will probably be the bootsector of the card, which contains pc-code. Same problem occurs when booting from a diskette which was formatted on a pc. Greetings Maico Arts MSX NBNO -- This message was sent with an unlicensed evaluation version of Novell NetMail. Please see http://www.netmail.com/ for details. ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Hi Maico, If memory serves well, you should press DEL or some key to bypass CF bootup and boot normally from diskette. With the fdisk you should do the partitioning and then all should work normally. Your memory serves you very well. Booting while pressing DEL the computer started correctly and I was able to partition/format the card from a floppy disk. I remembered that I had to do something like this (because I had an IDE+RS232 before), but I was pressing INS instead of DEL at boot. ;) Thanks for the help, -- Javi Lavandeira - http://www.ag0ny.com ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Javi Lavandeira wrote: Your memory serves you very well. Booting while pressing DEL the computer started correctly and I was able to partition/format the card from a floppy disk. I remembered that I had to do something like this (because I had an IDE+RS232 before), but I was pressing INS instead of DEL at boot. ;) Thanks for the help, Javi Lavandeira - http://www.ag0ny.com But, Javi, isn't the CF-IDE just extremely cool??? ^_^ Really, I still love it :) small, silent, no external power supply... Not to mention that you can take it with you without having to be really careful -- http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/20040823.htm :) ~Grauw -- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Yes, it is one of the best hardware pieces around! Now I use a PC notebook with a PCMCIA CF adapter, and a Turbo-R GT with the CF IDE adapter and the MegaFlashSCC cart to upload what I code for MSX in my PC. Nice combination! It makes MSX development and debugging faster! Regards, Edward Robsy From: Laurens Holst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:14:37 +0200 Javi Lavandeira wrote: Your memory serves you very well. Booting while pressing DEL the computer started correctly and I was able to partition/format the card from a floppy disk. I remembered that I had to do something like this (because I had an IDE+RS232 before), but I was pressing INS instead of DEL at boot. ;) Thanks for the help, Javi Lavandeira - http://www.ag0ny.com But, Javi, isn't the CF-IDE just extremely cool??? ^_^ Really, I still love it :) small, silent, no external power supply... Not to mention that you can take it with you without having to be really careful -- http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/20040823.htm :) ~Grauw -- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx _ Horóscopo, tarot, numerología... Escucha lo que te dicen los astros. http://astrocentro.msn.es/ ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Laurens Holst wrote: Sunrise advises against using CF carts 32MB because the chance for incompatibilities is much bigger for those. No probs with my Kodak (Toshiba) 16MB cart. The thing with 32MB carts is that you can't partition them with FDISK, but a normal 'big floppy' format can be done without problems. IIRC, I got the No enough memory when my SCSI interface was in a higher or lower (can't remember) slot than the IDE interface (I use a CF Adapter + normal IDE interface). But since the OP specified nothing else was connected to his turboR, that can't be the problem... Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
Hello, IIRC, I got the No enough memory when my SCSI interface was in a higher or lower (can't remember) slot than the IDE interface (I use a CF Adapter + normal IDE interface). But since the OP specified nothing else was connected to his turboR, that can't be the problem... The BERT scsi interface is known for this problem too: I have several diskinterfaces and especially when connecting more than one to the MSX you can get this kind of trouble. The BERT interface must be the first one to use. With the exception of the internal diskinterface for the floppydrive of my TurboR GT. Most of the time you have to be carefull with the use of the driveletters... Greetings Maico Arts MSX NBNO -- This message was sent with an unlicensed evaluation version of Novell NetMail. Please see http://www.netmail.com/ for details. ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory
If memory serves well, you should press DEL or some key to bypass CF bootup and boot normally from diskette. With the fdisk you should do the partitioning and then all should work normally. Greetings Maico Arts MSX-NBNO - Original Message - From: Javi Lavandeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: [MSX] IDE-CF: No enough memory Hi all, I received today my IDE-CF, but I'm having some trouble with it. The problem is that if I boot the computer with a memory card in the master slot, the computer always hangs with the following error: No enough memory. These are the things I've found out: - Booting the MSX without a memory card inserted, the interface's BIOS says that it cannot find a master device and the computer boots normally. - Booting with a memory card in the master slot, I get the No enough memory error message in a FS-A1ST (expanded to 512Kb) and a FS-A1GT. I've tried also an FS-A1WX (64Kb) and I don't get the error message, but the floppy disk in this computer is broken, so I couldn't do more testing. - Flashing the BIOS works correctly when I boot the computer without a memory card. - The No enough memory error appears regardless of the slot where the cartridge is inserted. My hardware is: - Panasonic FS-A1ST (512Kb)/A1GT/A1WX - CF ATA-IDE, BIOS 2.21 - 128Mb CF card (detected as TOSHIBA THNCF128MA at boot) - Nothing else connected to the computer Any ideas on what can be causing the problem? Regards, PS: I posted this same message on Sunrise's forum too. -- Javi Lavandeira - http://www.ag0ny.com ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx -- This message was sent with an unlicensed evaluation version of Novell NetMail. Please see http://www.netmail.com/ for details. -- This message was sent with an unlicensed evaluation version of Novell NetMail. Please see http://www.netmail.com/ for details. ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
