Re: [mb-style] Looking for a new [Documentation|Style] leader
Chad Wilson a écrit : Do we understand why Moin was chosen in the first place above MediaWiki? Do we have an idea of whether it will fix some of the transclusion display problems with Moin pages? I am concerned that to do a migration while the data is in a bad state may detract from fixing the existing poor content, swallowing time with format and navigation fixes and template conversion and such. However, I realise that to fix the content and then migrate later would likely require rework/reformatting of the same pages. A judgement on which strategy makes most sense is I guess up to Rob. I agree. I think that if we wait for Mediawiki migration to fix/improve the current documentation, it may stop the current elan. A better plan IMO would be to achieve the MoinMoin migration to 1.6, since I think there is not so much work left. I'm going to contact dmppanda others, and put effort to make this happen. This will let us the time to evaluate in parallel the work needed for the MediaWiki migration. - Aurélien ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Looking for a new [Documentation|Style] leader
Robert Kaye a écrit : If MediaWiki can be used for transclusion, I'm all for the switch. Transclusion can probably be achieved with MediaWiki as well: it supports extensions, and here's one allowing to export a wiki page as PDF: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Pdf_Export, which may be similar to what we want (get a different view of the wiki page). - Aurélien ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Looking for a new [Documentation|Style] leader
Lukáš Lalinský a écrit : Dňa Št, 2008-07-31 o 12:20 +0200, Aurélien.mino napísal: Chad Wilson a écrit : Do we understand why Moin was chosen in the first place above MediaWiki? Do we have an idea of whether it will fix some of the transclusion display problems with Moin pages? I am concerned that to do a migration while the data is in a bad state may detract from fixing the existing poor content, swallowing time with format and navigation fixes and template conversion and such. However, I realise that to fix the content and then migrate later would likely require rework/reformatting of the same pages. A judgement on which strategy makes most sense is I guess up to Rob. I agree. I think that if we wait for Mediawiki migration to fix/improve the current documentation, it may stop the current elan. A better plan IMO would be to achieve the MoinMoin migration to 1.6, since I think there is not so much work left. I'm going to contact dmppanda others, and put effort to make this happen. This will let us the time to evaluate in parallel the work needed for the MediaWiki migration. I've tried to import the current wiki to MediaWiki using a little bit modified version of http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw/moin2media.git and the result doesn't look that bad. It can translate MoinMoin syntax to MediaWiki (well, it's not always 100% but I think it can be tweaked for the special cases in your wiki), import full history, attachments, split CamelCaseWikiNames, convert FooDiscussion pages to Foo talk pages. What doesn't work are cards, and it's confused by using non-category pages at the bottom section of a page. And pages from CategoryUser would probably need to be converted to User:PageName. Looks really interesting. I didn't found such advanced migration tool last year during my investigations. So, if we really want to migrate to MediaWiki, I'd sugges to not upgrade to MoinMoin 1.6, but go straight to MediaWiki. My idea was to migrate to a more recent MoinMoin, since it would have helped the migration to MediaWiki (with the supposition that migration tools doesn't support old MoinMoin syntax). But since the tool you've found seems to work with MoinMoin 1.3, I agree with you. - Aurélien ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Looking for a new [Documentation|Style] leader
On Jul 31, 2008, at 3:43 AM, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: So, if we really want to migrate to MediaWiki, I'd sugges to not upgrade to MoinMoin 1.6, but go straight to MediaWiki. Do you want to load the results onto scooby so everyone can play with the results? I can have DW add a new DNS entry for it -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is *still* missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --http://mayhem-chaos.net ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
