Re: [mb-style] Internet Archive / Live Music Archive, possible url-artist AR?
Brian Schweitzer wrote:
I'm going to be unavailable for most of the next month, so I'm
throwing this out as a potential AR, for the moment, rather than RFC
it while I'm not around to help with the RFC. :) If there's no
objection to it, I'll RFC it at the beginning of next month, when I'm
going to be much more available.
For anyone who hasn't run into it before, there's a really nice
collection of free music at archive.org http://archive.org. It's a
partnership of archive.org http://archive.org with etree, and no
music is allowed to get posted there without permission from the
artist; basically, using archive.org http://archive.org instead of
some other means, such as torrents, to share authorized bootleg
recordings in a not-for-profit way. http://www.archive.org/details/etree
There is a growing list of bands and soloists (currently 3509, the
latest added only 6 days ago -
http://www.archive.org/details/TheBremens ) who have explicitly
granted permission for recordings to be listed. That list is
available at http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-band-showall.php
What I would suggest is the addition of an artist level AR, similar to
the release-url AR that lets us link a release to a place it can be
downloaded for free.
This does not run into the problems of some other sites, where urls
would really be just urls with search terms, though those also are
possible at archive.org http://archive.org, and any AR like the one
I'm suggesting would have to specify that it should use the urls for
specific artists in the collection, as listed in the list at
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-band-showall.php , so
http://www.archive.org/details/AndrewBird and not
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3AAndrew Bird or
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=andrew bird .
Not only does this provide a perhaps quite useful resource for fans of
an artist, but it also sometimes can provide other useful links or
information, such as track times for a particular recording listed
there, or links, such as the one on the Andrew Bird example, linking
to his homepage.
Would there be any objection to the addition of an AR for this?
Artist has a collection of authorized bootleg recordings available
for download at linkarchive.org http://archive.org/link?
It seems to be specific, and we can't increase ARs types for all
initiative. A balance should be found, because having too much ARs types
will be confusing.
A FreeDownloadRelationshipType, maybe with a {live} attribute, should do
the job here.
- Aurélien // murdos
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Re: [mb-style] DiscogsRelationshipType Discogs masters
- Chad Wilson chad.wil...@gmx.net a écrit : On 4/05/2009 7:51 p.m., Aurélien Mino wrote: Hi, As some of you already know, Discogs has recently introduced ([1]) the concept of 'master release' which corresponds to what we name 'release-group'. Since we don't yet have release-group, and since our first implementation of release-group won't have relationships for this entity, I'm wondering how we should handle the links to Dicogs masters. Should we accept links from our current releases to both Discogs masters and Discogs releases? And then automatically filter and move them when migrating data to NGS: Discogs master- MB release-group and Discogs release- MB NGS release (currently release-event)? Note that there are already some pending edits which add links to Discogs masters. - Aurélien // murdos [1] http://www.discogs.com/help/forums/topic/18690 Personally, no, I don't think it is appropriate to link an MB release to a Discogs master. They seem semantically different concepts, and it doesn't really make sense to me to allow them to be linked until we have a similar concept? In fact the MB release concept is halfway through Discogs master and release. So linking a MB release to a Discogs master is not totally wrong. I personally don't see a problem with allowing these links. Note that there may be software/plugins currently using the Discogs release URLs to make queries to the Discogs web service for artwork or other stuff - wouldn't this potentially break with the Masters URLs? Probably. But technically these URLs are different (discogs.com/master/XXX or discogs.com/release/XXX) so it's easy to filter them. And with the way Discogs has integrated masters (mixed listing with both releases and masters), you have to be careful when you pick the links. Then you have yet to explain that to new users... - Aurélien // murdos ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] has a BBC page at AR
- Robert Kaye r...@eorbit.net a écrit : Hi! The BBC is wondering if we would be up for adding a has a BBC page at AR type? Even though both the BBC and MB speak the same set of identifiers it can be useful to know which set of MBIDs actually resolve to meaningful content at the BBC. Could you precise what is proposed exactly? Artist or Release AR (artist-url or release-url)? And what meaningful content is served by BBC? They are already using the has a review page at AR for releases which is fine with me. At first glance I don't see the point for this AR. - Aurélien ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
[mb-style] RFV: Cataloguer Relationship Type
It having now been 7 days (plus 14 months), without disagreement, I'm moving this RFC to RFV status. Without reasoned veto, it will expire on Thurs, May 7, 2009. Quick summary: * Add a new artist-artist AR - *artist* *was catalogued by* *artist* - *artist* *catalogued the works of* *artist* This relationship is used to link an artist to a person who has compiled a catalogue of that artist's works. Such catalogues must be significant; it is not sufficient that someone wrote down a list of all the songs by a group. A cataloguer who should be linked using the advanced relationship is typically one whose catalog is the, or one of the, reference lists used for referring to the works by that artist. Brian -- Forwarded message -- From: Brian Schweitzer brian.brianschweit...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2008 at 2:47 AM Subject: RFC: Cataloguer Relationship Type To: musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org This is one of the ARs discussed (briefly) within the Clean up CSG emails. I have set up a wiki page for the proposal at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CataloguerRelationshipTypeProposal Brian ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] has a BBC page at AR
On May 4, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Paul C. Bryan wrote: I wonder if there would be a web-way to automagically maintain links? For example, if they had a tag on a page that means has meaningful content, could we automatically traverse their associated pages to determine what to link up to our own? I could see something like this Would there ever be a reason we'd need to maintain these links manually? Not really, aside from the fact that it would take time to write code to maintain them. But since the BBC is keen on maintaining these links its little/no effort to us. Secondary question, if they display cover art or artist images for inter-linkages, could we use them on MB? I'll ask them, but I wouldn't hold my breath. :) -- --ruaok A village in Texas has its idiot back! Robert Kaye -- r...@eorbit.net --http://mayhem-chaos.net ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
