Re: [mb-style] Historical countries proposal

2006-03-22 Thread Nikki
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 05:15:21PM +0100, derGraph wrote:

 Sure. The Union of Independent Sovjet States (I hope my translation is
 correct) was founded on 1991-12-08, on 1991-12-21 eight other states
 joined, and 1991-12-25 Gorbachov resigned as the president. You may
 consider each the definite end date, but my encyclopaedia seems to prefer
 1991-12-21.

So 1991 it is.

 As of the DDR, I think we should call it East Germany, since the BRD is
 called Germany, the République française is called France...

I would prefer East Germany too (not, er, Easy Germany as I accidentally
wrote in that last email :)).

--Nikki
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Re: [mb-style] Historical countries proposal

2006-03-22 Thread Nikki
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:21:03PM +0100, Don Redman wrote:

 Do we really need two entities for a country that just changed its name
 and constitution, but not its boundaries.

You misunderstood me, I was saying that while I don't really care whether
the name is changed, the code *should* be, as it's TL now, not TP.

--Nikki
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[mb-style] Historical countries proposal

2006-03-21 Thread Robert Kaye

Ok, here is my proposed solution to the historical countries debate:

1. Add historical countries:

- XC - Czechoslovakia [until 1993]
- XD - German Democratic Republic [until 1990]
- SU - Soviet Union [until 1992]

2. Fix Yugoslavia, which is in our countries list right now:

- YU - Yugoslavia [until 1993]

3. Fix our current list by adding:

   - CS - Serbia and Montenegro

4. Establish rules for historical countries:

- We only include countries currently recognized by ISO.
- In addition, we recognize a few historical countries that can  
have more than N documented releases from that country.
- We only keep track of countries with typical two letter codes.  
Three letter codes or even four letter codes are overkill for  
MusicBrainz.
- If there is a release from a historical country that is not  
(yet) listed, add a country of origin note to the album annotation.


My reasoning is that I want to keep the country list from exploding.  
We should not add things there that will not be used -- that only  
causes confusion. The arbitrary threshold of N releases is designed  
to keep the list from growing out of control. What's a good threshold  
for N? 10? 25?


This proposal is not so much a Request for Comment as much as it is a  
sanity check. I've heard all the bits before and I am not really  
interested in starting a new discussion over again. HOWEVER, if you  
think we're making a grave mistake by proceeding with this proposal  
then I'd like to hear your comments. But, please spare me the I  
don't like it it sucks kinds of comments. I'll just ignore them.


I'll address the EU issue next. May some deity have mercy on my soul.

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--ruaok  Somewhere in Texas a village is *still* missing its idiot.

Robert Kaye -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --http://mayhem-chaos.net


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